black guy in PTA movies:
Hard Eight - Sam Jackson
Boogie Nights - Don Cheadle
Magnolia - Orlando Jones (SCENES DELETED)
Punch Drunk Love - No black guy
white guys in PTA movies:
Hard Eight - Philip Seymour Hofman
Boogie Nights - Philip Seymour Hofman
Magnolia - Philip Seymour Hofman
Punch Drunk Love - Philip Seymour Hofman
Cry-Babies
Hard Eight - John C Reily, Philip Baker Hall (SCENE DELETED)
Boogie Nights - Mark Walberg
Magnolia - John C Reily, Tom Cruise, Philip Seymour Hofman (Magnolia is the Godfather of PTA crying movies)
Punch Drunk Love - Adam Sandler
It's pretty safe to say that PTA is a racist.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
finally the truth
best post i've read in a while, i feel so enlightened
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"It's pretty safe to say that PTA is a racist."
possible marquee quote??
oh god YES please!! that would be great
I'm guessing there will be a very important black character in his next movie :twisted:
who will die.
at the hands of a white man
...who will then cry
And then probably die himself.
Quote from: thedog
Magnolia - Orlando Jones (SCENES DELETED)
... :shock: ...the versitile orlando jones was in magnolia bu this scene was deleted
There must be something about Paul and black actors. ha ha.
First, Samuel wanted nothing to do with "Boogie Nights", then Don, who took what would have been Sam's role, bitched about working with Paul. By the time PTA did "Punch Drunk Love", he didn't even bother to ask any black actors if they wanted any part of it. :lol:
Quote from: ckad79Don, who took what would have been Sam's role, bitched about working with Paul.
he calmed down early on tho, right? thanks to julianne or somebody
That's the greatest story... PTA telling Elswitt it didn't matter if the reflection was in the shot because it's a whip pan, and Cheadle thinking "this kid doesn't know what he's doing".
I get that feeling from my actors everytime I make a short...
Quote from: SoNowThenThat's the greatest story... PTA telling Elswitt it didn't matter if the reflection was in the shot because it's a whip pan, and Cheadle thinking "this kid doesn't know what he's doing".
"His D.P. said he could see the camera in the fucking glass"... eheheheh. Classical shit
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It's an interesting idea but I do not think it means that much. I just don't think PTA is preoccupied with the idea of race at all. He casts race to support a role, he doesn't create a role to support a race. Maybe he's guilty of subconcious steretyping but I wouldn't call it rascist. What I mean is, maybe he says to himself 'Okay, there is a murder in a slum of a woman's abusive boyfriend. ok slum, ok black kid." maybe he casts black characters as criminals b/c that's the message our societys ets. we carry that with us subconciously. But I don't really think that's it. I just don't think it concerns him too much. Don Cheadle is a bad example if you ask me b/c he is the most sympathetic character in Boogie Nights. His one moment of theft is not to show he's black so he steals. It's to show the lengths this sympathetic character will go to, to support his family when he is unfairly persecuted. And it's not like all the criminals in PTA films are black. Sydney is a gangster, Melora Walters is a coke head in Magnolia, William H. Macy robs his employer, the rednecks in PDL who assault Barry, Alfred Molena in Boogie Nights etc... I don't think PTA considers race in any way other than if it fits for the character's background in the story. He wanted to show an interracial relationship in Boogie Nights so one character had to be black etc... I really don't think he holds any prejudices. He doesn't concern himself with race as a filmmaker and he shouldn't. It's true their are not too many black characters in his films but so what. He grew up in the valley, he writes what he knows. And after all it's not like he's beholden to cast racially equal movies, that's silly.
more like the truest thing you've ever heard.
No wonder PTA deleted the restaurant washroom scene in Punch-Drunk Love where Phil LaMarr steals Sandler's wallet.
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this is one of the best threads of all time.
so to update:
Quote from: thedog on February 26, 2004, 12:33:52 AM
black guy in PTA movies:
Hard Eight - Sam Jackson
Boogie Nights - Don Cheadle
Magnolia - Orlando Jones (SCENES DELETED)
Punch Drunk Love - No black guy
Chere Mill Be Blood - no black guy
Quote from: thedog on February 26, 2004, 12:33:52 AM
Cry-Babies
Hard Eight - John C Reily, Philip Baker Hall (SCENE DELETED)
Boogie Nights - Mark Walberg
Magnolia - John C Reily, Tom Cruise, Philip Seymour Hofman (Magnolia is the Godfather of PTA crying movies)
Punch Drunk Love - Adam Sandler
CMBB - Paul Dano
Quote from: thedog on February 26, 2004, 12:33:52 AM
It's pretty safe to say that PTA is still a racist.
And with The Master (Masty?) being about Scientology, and Isaac Hayes being dead, I think it's safe to say the string of blacklessness will be extended to three.
Quote from: P on June 22, 2010, 03:09:49 AM
Chere Mill Be Blood - no black guy
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DDL wears blackface.
^ hahaha.
The title might change so maybe it's Moot, but I think it could be "Ma"... pronounced like you would call your mother.
This way we can discuss the similarities between Mag and Ma.
Quote from: RegularKarate on June 23, 2010, 10:15:53 AM
This way we can discuss the similarities between Mag and Ma.
that could be useful in the future. ººoh dudes, yesterday I saw a double feature of magma, it was magmanificent!ºº
Based on this thread I think we should go with "Massuh."
Quote from: Tictacbeekay on June 23, 2010, 12:27:14 PM
Based on this thread I think we should go with "Massuh."
WIN.
LOL at all this shit. I can see it now: "The Massuh", starring PSH for the first time as a black dude.