What are we reading?

Started by edison, September 21, 2003, 11:20:03 PM

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The Perineum Falcon






Thought I'd give this a try, based on word of mouth. Didn't take long for me to realize how TEDIOUS it gets. Blah.
We often went to the cinema, the screen would light up and we would tremble, but also, increasingly often, Madeleine and I were disappointed. The images had dated, they jittered, and Marilyn Monroe had gotten terribly old. We were sad, this wasn't the film we had dreamed of, this wasn't the total film that we all carried around inside us, this film that we would have wanted to make, or, more secretly, no doubt, that we would have wanted to live.

Neil

Just finished this:


Also, Debord was around and running in the same circles as many of the french new wave film makers.  so, here is the film version of this book.  A little dry, but a stance against the spectacle, no doubt.

Now, I'm starting
it's not the wrench, it's the plumber.

Pozer



won the Pulitzer last week but ive had it for months now. its not long, started it over the weekend, nearly finished. very unique in narrative, took awhile to figure out what it was doing but i like what it's doing.

ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ



I left this out and my roommate read it.  Now all he wants to do is street art, but his idea of street art is incredibly pornographic flyers stuck to walls with wheat paste.  He's been working on some, and I mean, more power to him, but he wants me to get involved.  I've been tagging for a while, myself, but only little UPS labels, and even then they're just psychedelic, colorful designs.

He tried to pitch to me how the two of us should push his idea forward saying "The only downside is like, what, we go to jail?  Even then, that's not a huge deal, we won't be in for long.  I have a friend who got arrested for it, and he's right back it."

Either way, this book is incredible.  I recommend it.
"As a matter of fact I only work with the feeling of something magical, something seemingly significant. And to keep it magical I don't want to know the story involved, I just want the hypnotic effect of it somehow seeming significant without knowing why." - Len Lye

squints

Quote from: Neil on April 22, 2010, 11:01:34 AM
Just finished this:




in the process of writing my third paper this semester concerning debord. I've had just about enough of his crazy ass.
"The myth by no means finds its adequate objectification in the spoken word. The structure of the scenes and the visible imagery reveal a deeper wisdom than the poet himself is able to put into words and concepts" – Friedrich Nietzsche

Neil

Quote from: squints on April 22, 2010, 07:34:34 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 22, 2010, 11:01:34 AM
Just finished this:




in the process of writing my third paper this semester concerning debord. I've had just about enough of his crazy ass.

i'd like to read those.  with regards to craziness, can you blame the guy for witnessing the marx prophecy coming true?  Or at least witnessing late capitalism/state of exception take place.  I think as far as political phil
it's not the wrench, it's the plumber.

The Perineum Falcon

The Subterraneans, Kerouac

Venus In Furs, von Sacher-Masoch

Flicker, Roszak

Also, thanks Neil for posting Debord and Ranciere, i'd very much like to check those out.
We often went to the cinema, the screen would light up and we would tremble, but also, increasingly often, Madeleine and I were disappointed. The images had dated, they jittered, and Marilyn Monroe had gotten terribly old. We were sad, this wasn't the film we had dreamed of, this wasn't the total film that we all carried around inside us, this film that we would have wanted to make, or, more secretly, no doubt, that we would have wanted to live.

Pas


Neil

Quote from: The Perineum Falcon on May 01, 2010, 11:08:08 AM
The Subterraneans, Kerouac

Venus In Furs, von Sacher-Masoch

Flicker, Roszak

Also, thanks Neil for posting Debord and Ranciere, i'd very much like to check those out.

If that happens, i'd love to start some threads discussing Ranciere and Debord.  Things of this nature.  Maybe squints (sorry we didn't get to hang) would get in on it, he's the one who has written three papers on the guy, i'm attempting a twenty page bullshit on Rawls  "Justice as Fairness" and the tension that Debord's contribute to Rawlsian liberalism.



it's not the wrench, it's the plumber.

cinemanarchist

My assholeness knows no bounds.

Captain of Industry

Book seemed like a mixture of conjecture and gossip when I skimmed through it.  Let me know if I missed somethin'.

john

You didn't miss anything.

Waxman has, essentially, delivered a 400 page gossip column. Any sort of insight about these directors technique or style is reduced to moments of theatrics, indulgence, or stubbornness. It's all presented with this grotesque passive-aggressiveness that really shows Waxman as the bitter, irrelevant, useless "journalist" she is. Every critic I've spoken with has nothing kind to say about her writing.

It's a shame, too, because a book on PTA, Soderbergh, Tarantino, etc.. could be so much more interesting than this. As it is, it's worse than Easy Riders, Raging Bulls.
Maybe every day is Saturday morning.

Pubrick

under the paving stones.

Alexandro

I skimmed once through that book and felt it was boring and totally off the mark about the filmmakers. It was trying to be like easy riders, raging bulls, but it's no close. That one was fun to read, yeah it was mainly gossip and conjectures, but it was awesome picturing all those guys like altman and ashby being stoned all day on set and scorsese and spielberg talking about movies...you know, FUN.

This one felt like a constant attack for no real reason.

squints

Quote from: P on May 11, 2010, 08:04:01 PM
your questions are being answered with bullshit.

Man, yet another resurrected thread to make me really miss Daniel Robert Epstein. His articles are what kept me coming here so often way back when.
"The myth by no means finds its adequate objectification in the spoken word. The structure of the scenes and the visible imagery reveal a deeper wisdom than the poet himself is able to put into words and concepts" – Friedrich Nietzsche