Dirk's motivation?

Started by prophet, December 30, 2003, 12:59:25 PM

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prophet

December 30, 2003, 12:59:25 PM
I hear directors alking about a characters motivation, whats Dirk's motivation? Is it to become a famous porn star, or is to become something after he had the fight with his mom?
We gonna do a little Q&A Mr. Worley, and at the risk of sounding redundant please... make your answers Genuine...

SoNowThen

#1
December 30, 2003, 01:02:29 PM
I think it was to keep on rockin' and rollin' and making better films...
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

prophet

#2
December 30, 2003, 01:10:07 PM
its been a few months since i last seen anything from that film, but yeah thats kinda ture, but that comes when hes already famous. he needed some kind of motivation to get there.
We gonna do a little Q&A Mr. Worley, and at the risk of sounding redundant please... make your answers Genuine...

kotte

#3
December 30, 2003, 01:15:35 PM
A, to Dirk, known filmmaker tells him he's special. He's curious and get's into Jacks world. He realizes it's something he's good at and that he can actually become a star.

prophet

#4
December 30, 2003, 01:16:57 PM
it seemed like at first he didnt care about becoming a star, that happened after he wanted to prove his mom wrong, almost like jack was a last resort.
We gonna do a little Q&A Mr. Worley, and at the risk of sounding redundant please... make your answers Genuine...

MacGuffin

#5
December 30, 2003, 01:26:21 PM
Quote from: prophetit seemed like at first he didnt care about becoming a star, that happened after he wanted to prove his mom wrong, almost like jack was a last resort.

But you're forgetting about the Sheryl Lynn scene:

18 INT. SHERYL LYNN'S BEDROOM - DAY - LATER

Dirk is in bed with a young neighborhood girl, SHERYL LYNN PARTRIDGE. Her room is decorated in pastels with equestrian things all around. Horse models, trophies from riding, blue ribbons, etc.

                     DIRK
            I have to get back.

                  SHERYL LYNN
               Once more.

                     DIRK
         I have to get back to work.

                  SHERYL LYNN
            Give it to me, Eddie.

                     DIRK
      Don't make me pounce you, Sheryl Lynn.

                  SHERYL LYNN
            Ohhhh-baby, baby, baby.

                     DIRK
               I'll do it --

                  SHERYL LYNN   
               Promise?

                     DIRK
               That's it.

Dirk jumps up and starts bouncing up and down on the bed, naked and flapping. She stares at his crotch, shakes her head;

                  DIRK (OC)
                  What?

                  SHERYL LYNN
               You're so beautiful.

                  DIRK (OC)
               Yeah . . .

                  SHERYL LYNN
            Do you know how good you are at doing this, Eddie? Having sex . . . fucking me . . .
making love to me?

Dirk looks down. BEAT.

                     DIRK
         Everyone has one thing, y'think? I mean:
      Everyone is given one special thing . . . . right?

                  SHERYL LYNN
                  That's right.

                     DIRK
         Everyone is blessed with One Special Thing.

Dirk kneels down to her;

                     DIRK
         I want you to know: I plan on being a star.
         A big, bright shining star. That's what
            I want and it's what I'm gonna get.

                  SHERYL LYNN
                  I know.

                     DIRK
         And once I get it: I'm never gonna stop
            and I'll never, ever make a mistake.

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cron

#6
December 30, 2003, 01:36:28 PM
i think  that what  ignites his rock and rollin adventure is the confrontation with his mum.      how horrible  are those words that she starts yelling at him?  i am afraid of growing up and treat my kids that way.
context, context, context.

kotte

#7
December 30, 2003, 01:41:25 PM
Quote from: chuckhimselfoi think what makes Dirk ignite his rock and rollin adventure is the confrontation with his mum.

No, it began earlier. Something that belongs in the backstory. It's obvious.


Quote from: chuckhimselfohow horrible  are those words that she starts yelling at him?  i am afraid of growing up and treat my kids that way.

Just don't. It's a conscious choice.

/Dr. Phil

EDIT: Spelling errors. Hate them.

cron

#8
December 30, 2003, 01:43:06 PM
well, thanks for ruining my first serious post.
context, context, context.

kotte

#9
December 30, 2003, 01:44:21 PM
how? by replying to it? quoting it?

cron

#10
December 30, 2003, 01:45:58 PM
just by not praising it.  it deserved to be  praised.

but let's not get off the subject, this thread looks interesting.
context, context, context.

prophet

#11
December 30, 2003, 01:56:16 PM
i think that PTA is putting some of his mom experainces on film. he onlny talks about his dad.
We gonna do a little Q&A Mr. Worley, and at the risk of sounding redundant please... make your answers Genuine...

cron

#12
December 30, 2003, 01:58:29 PM
you got it so right on that one, prophet.
context, context, context.

kotte

#13
December 30, 2003, 02:01:21 PM
Quote from: propheti think that PTA is putting some of his mom experainces on film. he onlny talks about his dad.

Who knows. As you said, he never talks about her. It could be that it's a situation he wanted to put his character in.

molly

#14
December 30, 2003, 02:15:53 PM
Dirk's mother was right to be concerned about her son, but her reaction was wrong. And Dirk's reaction to his mother's reaction was wrong. I think (maybe) PTA was just describing the usual chain of events that lead teenagers to leave home and become easy prey for all kinds of pimps.
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