What are we reading?

Started by edison, September 21, 2003, 11:20:03 PM

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Tictacbk

Just started reading Good Omens by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett...hilarious

cron



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godardian

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:yabbse-thumbup:

It's not quite The Stranger, but excellent nevertheless... wouldn't seem to be up your alley, so congrats for squirming out of your pigeonhole!  :) What's next, Bataille? Genet? de Beauvoir?  :lol:

You read Myth of Sisyphus?
""Money doesn't come into it. It never has. I do what I do because it's all that I am." - Morrissey

"Lacan stressed more and more in his work the power and organizing principle of the symbolic, understood as the networks, social, cultural, and linguistic, into which a child is born. These precede the birth of a child, which is why Lacan can say that language is there from before the actual moment of birth. It is there in the social structures which are at play in the family and, of course, in the ideals, goals, and histories of the parents. This world of language can hardly be grasped by the newborn and yet it will act on the whole of the child's existence."

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SoNowThen

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:yabbse-thumbup:

It's not quite The Stranger, but excellent nevertheless... wouldn't seem to be up your alley, so congrats for squirming out of your pigeonhole!  :) What's next, Bataille? Genet? de Beauvoir?  :lol:

Sartre, actually. And more Camus, seeing how I'm loving this one.
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

godardian

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Quote from: SoNowThen

:yabbse-thumbup:

It's not quite The Stranger, but excellent nevertheless... wouldn't seem to be up your alley, so congrats for squirming out of your pigeonhole!  :) What's next, Bataille? Genet? de Beauvoir?  :lol:

Sartre, actually. And more Camus, seeing how I'm loving this one.

Myth of Sisyphus?
""Money doesn't come into it. It never has. I do what I do because it's all that I am." - Morrissey

"Lacan stressed more and more in his work the power and organizing principle of the symbolic, understood as the networks, social, cultural, and linguistic, into which a child is born. These precede the birth of a child, which is why Lacan can say that language is there from before the actual moment of birth. It is there in the social structures which are at play in the family and, of course, in the ideals, goals, and histories of the parents. This world of language can hardly be grasped by the newborn and yet it will act on the whole of the child's existence."

Stay informed on protecting your freedom of speech and civil rights.

cron

Quote from: godardianThe Stranger

I thought it was called The Outsider in English. Funny thing is,  the real translation for  L'Etranger is The Foreigner  .

EDIT: yep, British version:

American version:

French version:
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Pas

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I thought it was called The Outsider in English. Funny thing is,  the real translation for  L'Etranger is The Foreigner  .

Étranger can mean foreigner, stranger and outsider.

I think Outsider fits best for the book. I also think L'Étranger is one of the finest piece of litterature of all time. So  :yabbse-thumbup:

Myth of Sisyphus should be read right after or at the same time as The Outsider, as said Sartre.

cron

I like Foreigner better .  :-D
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Pas

Quote from: cronopioI like Foreigner better .  :-D

He is in no way a foreigner at any point in the book.

cron

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SoNowThen

That's so funny, cos Pas and I were just discussing this in PM's earlier today. Being stupidly English, I didn't buy the "outsider" version of this the other day, cos I thought they fucked up the translation :roll: . But now I'll grab it, now that I know better...

To please you all, I promise to get Sisyphus at the same time as Outsider/Stranger. Yay. Go existentialism!!
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

El Duderino

I just finished "Breakfast of Champions" by Kurt Vonnegut today, excellent book. if anyone ever has a chance to read it, do so.
Did I just get cock-blocked by Bob Saget?

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godardian

""Money doesn't come into it. It never has. I do what I do because it's all that I am." - Morrissey

"Lacan stressed more and more in his work the power and organizing principle of the symbolic, understood as the networks, social, cultural, and linguistic, into which a child is born. These precede the birth of a child, which is why Lacan can say that language is there from before the actual moment of birth. It is there in the social structures which are at play in the family and, of course, in the ideals, goals, and histories of the parents. This world of language can hardly be grasped by the newborn and yet it will act on the whole of the child's existence."

Stay informed on protecting your freedom of speech and civil rights.

Sanjuro

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