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The Director's Chair => Paul Thomas Anderson => Topic started by: depooter on March 27, 2005, 02:24:56 PM

Title: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: depooter on March 27, 2005, 02:24:56 PM
I will be posting a story about PTA's next film in the next 24 hours on my site. I'm 99% convinced that this will be accurate. Of course, in Hollywood, things change, but it's the first real news on what direction he is heading....
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 27, 2005, 02:26:55 PM
I'm pumped but what a fucking tease....

Give us a hint, please?
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Post by: matt35mm on March 27, 2005, 02:27:20 PM
I'm excited!

And how appropriate that that was your 82nd (Frog) post!
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Post by: Ghostboy on March 27, 2005, 03:16:03 PM
Greg, this is just your way of getting more traffic to your site to make your advertisers happy, isn't it?

Well, it worked, by god. I can't wait for the update.
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Post by: cine on March 27, 2005, 03:52:55 PM
Quote from: GhostboyGreg, this is just your way of getting more traffic to your site to make your advertisers happy, isn't it?
don't worry GB, we can work around it.. when mac reads the news he can post it here.  :yabbse-wink:
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Post by: Kal on March 27, 2005, 04:07:12 PM
True... used to go into that site very often and to many other news sites... until I can get most of the stuff here

I even read news here before I read Variety in the morning.  :yabbse-thumbup:  Mac
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Post by: Gamblour. on March 27, 2005, 04:17:27 PM
Sweet.
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Post by: Find Your Magali on March 27, 2005, 08:05:35 PM
:shock:

Well, there goes any chance I had at sleep tonight!
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Post by: modage on March 27, 2005, 08:10:42 PM
this is UNBELIEVABLY EXCITING>  it begins...  :shock:

edit: oh, hold on.  

HE IS RISEN.

HE IS RISEN, INDEED.

easter reference, maybe neon will get that.
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Post by: Find Your Magali on March 27, 2005, 08:19:20 PM
Phrases that I hope don't appear in Greg's much-anticipated PTA story:

-- "Pauly Shore will star..."

-- "...a buddy-movie about the War of 1812..."

-- "Anderson is looking to do something shorter than Punch-Drunk Love..."

-- "...directing from a script by Akiva Goldsman..."
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Post by: Stefen on March 27, 2005, 08:52:31 PM
what time is it now?
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Post by: cron on March 27, 2005, 08:57:00 PM
time to watch his filmography back to back
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Post by: Weak2ndAct on March 27, 2005, 09:00:48 PM
Cockteasing non-news.
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Post by: Ultrahip on March 27, 2005, 09:02:38 PM
or drink some martinis and listen to the boogie nights commentary while drunkenly yelling and throwing things at your nephew, if you have one, and telling him to throw them right back at your face, because that's war![/i]
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Post by: brockly on March 27, 2005, 09:30:46 PM
Quote from: themodernage02this is UNBELIEVABLY EXCITING

damn straight!  :-D can't wait
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Post by: Gamblour. on March 27, 2005, 09:46:58 PM
Just don't wait until the 24th hour to post this news.
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Post by: Stefen on March 27, 2005, 09:57:08 PM
JUST POST IT GREG!!! WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!!!!!!!!!11!
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Post by: Find Your Magali on March 27, 2005, 10:08:32 PM
Quote from: StefenJUST POST IT GREG!!! WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!!!!!!!!!11!

And Stefen wins the "First Person To Crack" contest. (just teasing)

His prize will be a slightly used Little Bill action figure from Mattel.
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Post by: ono on March 27, 2005, 10:09:24 PM
April Fools.
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Post by: Alethia on March 27, 2005, 10:23:26 PM
that would be so horrendously un-funny.
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Post by: Find Your Magali on March 27, 2005, 11:11:13 PM
Perhaps it will turn out that PTA secretly spent the past two years ghost-directing Star Wars: Episode III and that Mace Windu is actually the twin brother of Jimmy from "Hard Eight"

Plus, at the end, frogs fall on Anakin.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 27, 2005, 11:15:38 PM
I just looked at the site. First i've looked at in weeks. is the news that Daniel Day Lewis might be in his next film? Seems like just speculation to me.
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Post by: sickfins on March 27, 2005, 11:17:01 PM
i guarantee this news to be very much like the stuff that have killed many of my gilled friends...oily
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Post by: I Don't Believe in Beatles on March 27, 2005, 11:41:40 PM
Hey, the new thing's up on the main page.


PTA'S NEXT FILM!
SOME SOLID INFO ON PAUL'S NEXT!

I don't see the actual post yet though.

EDIT: There, it's up.  Oil.
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Post by: matt35mm on March 27, 2005, 11:42:57 PM
Quote from: ptanderson.comHave you been wondering what PTA has been up to since 2002's Punch-Drunk Love? Paul never ceases to surprise us & it seems his next film will most likely be......."Oil"! "Oil!" is 1927 novel by Upton Sinclair that PTA has adapted. This would be his first film not based on on of his own original screenplays. It's a tale of of scandal, intrigue and politics. Makes sense & ties in nicely to this story (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/07/28/BAG0C7U3UI1.DTL) reported awhile back. It looks like Daniel Day-Lewis will be the star. I know, that's not too much of a surprise, but that's all the casting I've heard thus far. Lastly, it seems that Paul is still looking for financing, so a studio has yet to be determined . Obviously, a possible release date can't even be speculated at this point. I'm very confident that my information is correct, but it's Hollywood & things can (& do) change on a regular basis. Stay tuned for the latest.
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Post by: I Don't Believe in Beatles on March 27, 2005, 11:44:03 PM
...sickfins... you... ....bah.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 27, 2005, 11:45:20 PM
an adaptation of Upton Sinclair's "Oil" from 1927 starring Daniel Day-Lewis? Very nice... Looks like I got a summer read.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 28, 2005, 12:03:26 AM
A little background on Oil...

http://www.socalhistory.org/Biographies/upton_sinclair.htm
one of the great novels of Southern California and Sinclair's most artful and effective work. Published in 1927, it gave fictional life to the frenzy that followed the discovery of oil in Signal Hill, Huntington Beach and Santa Fe Springs in the early 1920s. In a foreword to a 1997 paperback re-issue, Jules Tygiel wrote that Oil! was more than a portrait of '20's life in Southern California. "[It] ultimately spread far beyond the boundaries of Southern California, encompassing World War I, the Russian Revolution, the Teapot Dome and Elk Hills bribery scandals, the fractious battles of the American left, the morality of youth in the roaring twenties, and a broad spectrum of other issues. Yet, Oil! remains at its core what literary critic Lawrence Clark Powell has called, 'a novel of high California octane...the largest scale of all California novels.'[/list:u]
I wonder if this would be a period piece...
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Post by: brockly on March 28, 2005, 12:04:57 AM
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetLooks like I got a summer read.

yeah me too. and i love the idea of PTA working with Daniel Day-Lewis
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Post by: MacGuffin on March 28, 2005, 12:40:37 AM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fus.news1.yimg.com%2Fus.yimg.com%2Fp%2Frids%2F20050324%2Fi%2Fr1356360705.jpg&hash=a2a82bd5fe8193a645fde7cad989e3589d202e29)

Actor Daniel Day Lewis attends the premiere of his new film 'The Ballad of Jack & Rose' in New York March 23, 2005.
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Post by: Ultrahip on March 28, 2005, 12:47:17 AM
From a Croation fellow at Amazon.com ~

"Oil!" is a fast-paced, lively and colorful story. Although Sinclair uses it to preach his political views, it is nevertheless a good piece of literature and an interesting historical testimony to the era in which it was written. Another striking thing is how Sinclair's descriptions of corporate manipulations tend to mirror very recent events. Interesting also is that Sinclair uses one of the oldest cliches in American literature, the coming-of-age story, as the vehicle for this epic; at the same time, there are indications that Sinclair seems to mock this manner of story-telling - from the main character's rather silly nick-name, "Bunny" to his perennial inability to make up his mind about where he wants to go with his life, i.e. he never really 'comes of age.' Other reviewers have noted Sinclair's apparently naive promotion of socialism/communism/the Bolsheviks, which is a valid criticism, although to me it seemed more a case of the author throwing out ideas to provoke readers into thinking rather than an attempt to persuade them. In this sense, his use of the family of a wealthy California oil baron as the main protagonists is quite telling: although Sinclair does take the opportunity to highlight the hypocrisy and greed of the moneyed classes, he also makes a genuine attempt to portray them as real people rather than just grotesque caricatures.

~ Apparently Oil! also places large emphasis on the father-son relationship. Between that, coming of age, and a funny nickname, this seems perfect for Paul.
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Post by: Redlum on March 28, 2005, 04:43:44 AM
Yes! Watch "Oil!" climb the bestseller charts on Amazon.

Great, great news.
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Post by: Pubrick on March 28, 2005, 05:52:37 AM
another idea stolen.  :(

another awesome film in the making.  :)
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Post by: Pubrick on March 28, 2005, 06:20:00 AM
Quote from: flagpolespecialdo you suppose he has the beard solely for pta's next project?
that was the implied connotation.
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Post by: MacGuffin on March 28, 2005, 06:30:29 AM
Quote from: flagpolespecialalso. has greg taken down the news frome cigarettes and coffee? cos i read the news while i was at work. and now that i'm home it's not there. the update has disappeared. any one know why? did paul perhaps ask greg to take it down to control speculation or am i reading too much into this?

It's still there.
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Post by: Gamblour. on March 28, 2005, 08:30:28 AM
Yeah, I don't know if I should read the book first. Someone decide for me.

It's funny that the quote on the cover from Amazon says, "A marvelous panorama of Southern California life...It's story-telling with an edge on it." That could be said for any PTA flick, generally.
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Post by: mogwai on March 28, 2005, 08:59:54 AM
i'm getting a pre-chinatown feeling here.
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Post by: modage on March 28, 2005, 09:43:03 AM
Quote from: flagpolespecialas much as i love knowing everything i can learn about paul thomas anderson. i believe the experience of watching a film is greatly diminished if you read the book upon what it is based first.

i'm torn.

i don't think i'll read the book. i want a truly cinematic experience.

anyone else feel the same way or am i crazy?
you're not crazy.  my first instinct was also to read the book to learn more about the project, but that is probably the worst thing you could do to a PTA movie.  this seems surprising.... but if it wasnt, that would probably be bad.
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Post by: Find Your Magali on March 28, 2005, 09:48:16 AM
I'm leaning heavily toward not reading the book. ...

If for no other reason than the fact that I already have about 73 books piled up on this summer's reading list.  :(

It will be a fascinating reading for afterward, though, to see how PTA cracked the adaptation.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 28, 2005, 10:08:08 AM
I'm actually leaning heavily toward reading the book. And I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because I'm assuming the movie will be different enough from the book.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 28, 2005, 10:38:36 AM
I read an interview with Day-Lewis recently in I believe Moviemaker magazine (not sure) and when they talked about his future and retirement, he surprised the interviewer by saying he had a new project (film) to do in June. Considering how thorough he is with each film, it would be no shock this "project" would be the PTA film.
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Post by: Kal on March 28, 2005, 10:51:25 AM
I'm not so excited about this so far... and it seems like a lot of speculation... I'd rather wait before reading the book or getting excited about it
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Post by: Ultrahip on March 28, 2005, 11:03:36 AM
in the day-lewis pic above, who the hell is that dude breathing down his neck? creepy bastard
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Post by: Pubrick on March 28, 2005, 11:15:44 AM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanI'm actually leaning heavily toward reading the book. And I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because I'm assuming the movie will be different enough from the book.
tho he prolly picked this book cos it's obscure enuff that only hardcore fans would actually sought it out to spoil it for themselves. i mean, it's not like he's adapting a bestseller.

i'm gonna read the book if i can find a copy of it. in my experience, books only hurt adaptations if the movie is a piece of crap. unless this is sum book with a major twist, knowing the story won't hurt the film at all. from reading the amazon reviews, sumone called it a precursor to "dallas", so maybe it is full of twists.

either way, it's a historical piece about a land in transition. and if it's as good as it sounds ambitious, i'll be rewatching it so many times it won't matter if i read it first.
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Post by: squints on March 28, 2005, 11:17:32 AM
i'm in a library right now, and...there...i checked it out
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Post by: SiliasRuby on March 28, 2005, 11:31:59 AM
I won't be able to help it. I'll be picking this book up very soon.
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Post by: mogwai on March 28, 2005, 11:39:39 AM
Quote from: Ultrahipin the day-lewis pic above, who the hell is that dude breathing down his neck? creepy bastard
his twin brother. rodriguez day-lewis.
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Post by: RegularKarate on March 28, 2005, 12:40:12 PM
(https://xixax.com/images/avatars/192890761442481da0b8e58.jpg)

Okay, everyone, it's done now... if I see any more of these, you'll have to answer to me
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Post by: Rudie Obias on March 28, 2005, 01:31:43 PM
i'm excited!!  new PTA film!!  i'm going to my local library right now and i'm gonna pick up a copy of OIL!.
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Post by: Stefen on March 28, 2005, 02:45:08 PM
sounds too smart for pta.
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Post by: Sal on March 28, 2005, 03:13:22 PM
Quote from: flagpolespecial
i don't think i'll read the book. i want a truly cinematic experience.

anyone else feel the same way or am i crazy?

I can understand that frustration, but perhaps in this instance reading the book may be helpful to get a sense of WHERE paul wants to go cinematically.  The differences are more important than the similarities.
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Post by: modage on March 28, 2005, 03:52:03 PM
well hopefully this will go a little way to improve the situation discussed here: http://www.xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=7356
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Post by: Fernando on March 28, 2005, 04:33:08 PM
Great news, I always had the feeling that some news would be release in some holyday, when I returned from my xmas vacation I sadly saw there were none, but now... :-D .

For your admins only. Not really, for xixaxers only.

1.0 Will this be the official thread for the movie?

If so, I think here in order to not be flooded with threads about this project you should change the title of the thread, and here we can post about casting, rumors, pta articles about the film, posters, movie reviews.

1.1 If this indeed is his next project, apart from the official thread there could be official threads about:

- Soundtrack
- DVD
- Q&A's
- Festivals
- Any others?

I don't know if this idea is too rigid, but a little order would prevent this forum to be flooded with individual threads about every little detail about the project.
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Post by: Sal on March 28, 2005, 04:56:08 PM
Quote from: flagpolespecial
i've been thinking about the reading the book overnight. now i'm sort of leaning toward reading it. but am not convinced as yet. i don't want to be in the theatre waiting to see how he handles a scene or how he shows a landscape described visually. i'm concerned about that. still weighing it up. i'd like know what people think of the book when they've read it. and i'm not sure this is a very obscure book. by the sounds of things he's a somewhat well known author. but i'm not into literature. i've never heard of him.

I would read it now just to get a sense of what may have inspired Paul to adapt it into a script in the first place.  By the time it's released the memory of the book will be fuzzy anyway--provided you read it this summer.  Which, btw, is an excellent suggestion.  This novel looks long.
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Post by: Finn on March 28, 2005, 05:35:51 PM
Interesting news. If he makes it a period piece, it would be very cool to see how he handles it. I could seriously see him making one actually. Daniel Day-Lewis could be a good fit for PTA as well. Can't wait to hear more news.
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Post by: Ultrahip on March 28, 2005, 05:56:26 PM
If it's a period piece, I can't fucking wait for Brion's score.
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Post by: Sleuth on March 28, 2005, 07:09:23 PM
Quote from: Small Town LonerInteresting news. If he makes it a period piece, it would be very cool to see how he handles it. I could seriously see him making one actually. Daniel Day-Lewis could be a good fit for PTA as well. Can't wait to hear more news.

Quote from: UltrahipIf it's a period piece, I can't fucking wait for Brion's score.

PAGE 3 SPOILER

it's a period piece
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Post by: Ultrahip on March 28, 2005, 08:36:09 PM
You live up to your name old boy!
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Post by: Pubrick on March 28, 2005, 09:44:05 PM
uh it's no secret that it's about sumthing that happened in the 20s, so why is there speculation on whether it's a period piece? it's pretty damn obvious, i mean, are u ppl reading anything other than ur own posts? please don't waste space on things that could be answered by reading the thread.

Quote from: FernandoGreat news, I always had the feeling that some news would be release in some holyday, when I returned from my xmas vacation I sadly saw there were none, but now... :-D .

For your admins only. Not really, for xixaxers only.

1.0 Will this be the official thread for the movie?

If so, I think here in order to not be flooded with threads about this project you should change the title of the thread, and here we can post about casting, rumors, pta articles about the film, posters, movie reviews.

1.1 If this indeed is his next project, apart from the official thread there could be official threads about:

- Soundtrack
- DVD
- Q&A's
- Festivals
- Any others?

I don't know if this idea is too rigid, but a little order would prevent this forum to be flooded with individual threads about every little detail about the project.
yep that's a good idea. we can create those threads when/if more info comes along. years from now.
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Post by: SiliasRuby on March 28, 2005, 09:49:17 PM
Quote from: SalThis novel looks long.
I got it today. It's 527 pages, small print too.
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Post by: mogwai on March 28, 2005, 10:05:24 PM
Quote from: SiliasRubysmall print too.
there's no justice.
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Post by: The Perineum Falcon on March 28, 2005, 10:09:08 PM
Quote from: SiliasRuby
Quote from: SalThis novel looks long.
I got it today. It's 527 pages, small print too.
I'll wait for you to tell me all about it.
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Post by: cron on March 28, 2005, 10:09:42 PM
daniel day lewis has three names. :bravo:
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 28, 2005, 11:12:01 PM
Quote from: Pubrickuh it's no secret that it's about sumthing that happened in the 20s, so why is there speculation on whether it's a period piece?
There's a strong probability it's a period piece, sure... but isn't there a possibility that it's a loose adaptation or a time-warped adaptation?
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Post by: MacGuffin on March 29, 2005, 05:44:50 AM
Quote from: flagpolespecialsomeone post a current photo of phil hoffman and we'll know what's what.

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fus.movies1.yimg.com%2Fmovies.yahoo.com%2Fimages%2Fhv%2Fphoto%2Fmovie_pix%2Fmgm%2Fcapote%2Fphilip_seymour_hoffman%2Fcapote.jpg&hash=cfa0700eff1e422265e461138e1df987f7f231aa)

Quote from: flagpolespeciali had a flash this morning 'i hope it's not miramax' but i don't know why i thought that.

Because you realized Bob and Harvey are involved with Disney-owned Miramax anymore.
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Post by: AntiDumbFrogQuestion on March 29, 2005, 11:52:40 AM
I read about this movie just today and there are already 5 pages of riffing the "what ifs" on it.

God, I love Xixax.
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Post by: Myxo on March 29, 2005, 12:26:14 PM
Quote from: AntiDumbFrogQuestionI read about this movie just today and there are already 5 pages of riffing the "what ifs" on it.

God, I love Xixax.

No doubt.

I've been busy lately but finally discovered this thread! Man, I am really excited! I absolutely love the casting of DDL. I can't wait! Oh and this from Amazon.com's website.

QuoteFrom Library Journal
Sinclair's 1927 novel did for California's oil industry what The Jungle did for Chicago's meat-packing factories. The plot follows the clash between an oil developer and his son. Typical of Sinclair, there are undertones here of socialism and sympathy for the common working stiff. Though the book is not out of print, this is the only paperback currently available.
Copyright 1997 Reed Business Information, Inc.

Product Description:
In Oil! Upton Sinclair fashioned a novel out of the oil scandals of the Harding administration, providing in the process a detailed picture of the development of the oil industry in Southern California. Bribery of public officials, class warfare, and international rivalry over oil production are the context for Sinclair's story of a genial independent oil developer and his son, whose sympathy with the oilfield workers and socialist organizers fuels a running debate with his father. Senators, small investors, oil magnates, a Hollywood film star, and a crusading evangelist people the pages of this lively novel.
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Post by: depooter on March 29, 2005, 03:22:12 PM
Trust me. I can't reveal my sources, but i'm confident this will be the next thing PTA does....of course with Paul, he could do a 180 and go in a different direction...don't forget that the PDL had a few elements from "Knuckle Sandwich" (as did Magnolia)...who knows maybe he has other finished or partially finished scripts lying around (Action Adventure, Animated film, etc.)....
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Post by: Kal on March 29, 2005, 04:17:31 PM
So basically your sources say that he has this project in mind, but not that he is doing this project next, or he is already working on it, or he is thinking about casting, or anything... Everyone is so hungry to hear news about PTA that we're getting excited but we dont know for sure if this is happening or not... I want to wait before I get excited
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Post by: depooter on March 29, 2005, 04:31:25 PM
No I'm saying that this is his next planned project, but things can always change. Until a deal is solidified with a studio, then it's all speculation..But I will and always do stand by my comments. I don't play the rumor game.
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Post by: Ultrahip on March 29, 2005, 04:37:09 PM
And that is why we love you.
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Post by: RegularKarate on March 29, 2005, 04:45:21 PM
D. Poot is solid, but things change.. if they do, it's not because he was wrong.
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Post by: Kal on March 29, 2005, 04:45:24 PM
Quote from: depooterNo I'm saying that this is his next planned project, but things can always change. Until a deal is solidified with a studio, then it's all speculation..But I will and always do stand by my comments. I don't play the rumor game.

Ok then thats cool :)

I would hate to read the damn book and then know that he didnt even read it!!!  :doh:
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Post by: Something Spanish on March 29, 2005, 06:05:40 PM
so it seems pta is finally maturing. cool. I read upton sinclaire's "the jungle" last year. it was really good, but sometimes felt like propaganda for socialism. i'll probably hold out on reading OIL. and for some reason andykal's last comment really annoyed me and i wish i had the opportunity to punch his face. little whiner.
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Post by: Myxo on March 29, 2005, 07:02:43 PM
Quote from: Shaun Digiso it seems pta is finally maturing. cool.

Yeah, because Hard Eight, Boogie Nights, Magnolia and Punch-Drunk Love were very immature.

:saywhat:

:yabbse-thumbdown:
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Post by: atticus jones on March 29, 2005, 07:05:10 PM
Quote from: Shaun Digiso it seems pta is finally maturing. cool.

yeah, its about time...

that is if reading and understanding books is a sign of maturity...

go dog go...

speculation is masturbation...procreation is fascination...atticusation is revelation...

hyavmc
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Post by: ono on March 29, 2005, 07:13:21 PM
Quote from: atticus jonesgo dog go...
I'm partial to Dick and Jane.  Jane, mostly.

Quote from: atticus jonesspeculation self-improvement is masturbation...
...but you probably don't like that idea too much.

Quote from: atticus joneshyavmc
lyhbl
fnootwboos

I look forward to the true reason for the season.  :yabbse-thumbup:
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Post by: atticus jones on March 29, 2005, 07:20:39 PM
Quote from: andykal

I would hate to read the damn book and then know that he didnt even read it!!!  :doh:

it sucks when you want to do some cool thing because you think someone cool did it only to find out the cool thing you thought the cool person did may have never been done at all...

cool whip is a topping best enjoyed when properly thawed...

iwtkwli...iwytsm
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Post by: cowboykurtis on March 29, 2005, 07:23:30 PM
Quote from: Myxomatosis
Quote from: Shaun Digiso it seems pta is finally maturing. cool.

Yeah, because Hard Eight, Boogie Nights, Magnolia and Punch-Drunk Love were very immature.

:saywhat:

:yabbse-thumbdown:

took the words from my mind
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Post by: atticus jones on March 30, 2005, 12:55:43 AM
Quote from: ono mo cuishle
I'm partial to Dick

...oh the pain of being misquoted and misunderstood

sometimes its better not to say anything at all...

we are all learning the same lesson...only some of us will get it...

look between words rather than for words...ask the blue birds rather than board nerds...

nfaadmf
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Post by: SHAFTR on March 30, 2005, 01:17:59 AM
I was hoping PTA would take over this project:

http://www.xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=7232
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Post by: bluejaytwist on March 30, 2005, 01:25:35 AM
Quote from: atticus jones
Quote from: ono mo cuishle
I'm partial to Dick

...oh the pain of being misquoted and misunderstood

sometimes its better not to say anything at all...

we are all learning the same lesson...only some of us will get it...

look between words rather than for words...ask the blue birds rather than board nerds...

nfaadmf

you always got to prays
and hope for the best
a response from
the highest of the high
i suppose?
bored nerds are the most dangerous
i fear the revenge of them
they have risen up four times
once with goose
once in paradise
once in another generation
and once in knuckle love
and there are plans for another revenge in two uh oh six
this is saddening
without the oil the engine could seize
need to find a fun ding?
be a tourist at around 5:19
the best kind there is
agreed?
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Post by: Ordet on March 30, 2005, 07:43:17 AM
Any new pictures of him...Like in the Ballad of Jack and Rose Screening...I miss him...
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Post by: ono on March 30, 2005, 02:28:46 PM
Quote from: ShanghaiOrangeI like how the thread is now called "Sticky: Toilets OIL!" :(
In memoriam.
We will remember to forget the past
and look to the future.
Look to the few, sure,
who will please
and appease.

The goose that laid the golden egg was slaughtered
but still sweet when fully cooked.
In paradise, all is lost until divine
intervention sets things right.
I'm not talking about your generation.
That's your right, that's something truly special.
Knuckle-deep in pudding.
That's that.
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Post by: Pozer on March 31, 2005, 10:49:43 PM
hoping this oil spill is real and not a foil to not spoil the deal
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Post by: mogwai on April 01, 2005, 07:07:02 AM
i hope this movie rocks the pope's dead arse!
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 01, 2005, 12:18:14 PM
raspberry
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Post by: Ordet on April 02, 2005, 04:34:14 AM
mogwai who's you're avatar girl? :oops:  :kiss:

Long corridors in films...return to the womb.

So any recent pictures of the man?

Oil! If he does is you think he'll keep the title?
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Post by: Find Your Magali on April 02, 2005, 01:11:36 PM
Well, he could change the title to:

-- "Bunny!"
-- "Petroleum Nights!"
-- "Magnates!"
-- "Punch-Drunk Prospectors!"

[/b]
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on April 02, 2005, 02:59:02 PM
On second thought, I'm not going to read the novel "Oil". I didn't realize it was over 500 pages. For as talented as I think PTA is, that length presents major problems of the usual with novel adaptations. Though I think he could make a film to hold up against the novel, I think my expectations would be too high.
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Post by: ono on April 02, 2005, 03:01:40 PM
It'd have to be Magnolia-size in scale, too.  It reminds me of Gangs of New York in that sense, except, of course, it would be GOOD.  If you think the only reason not to read the novel is that your expectations would be too high, I'd say to read it anyway.  It's a PTA film, of course expectations will be high, period.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on April 02, 2005, 03:12:48 PM
Quote from: onomatavivaIt'd have to be Magnolia-size in scale, too.  It reminds me of Gangs of New York in that sense, except, of course, it would be GOOD.  If you think the only reason not to read the novel is that your expectations would be too high, I'd say to read it anyway.  It's a PTA film, of course expectations will be high, period.

There are other problems though. The biggest is the loss of freshness when watching the film for the first time. For as much as PTA could turn this novel on its head, its still an adaptation. I would have ideas where the film could be going as it moves along. Worst, I'll probably know. If I do read the novel, I'll do it afterward.

I also happened to read Gangs of New York before watching the film. The film wasn't ruined. Bill The Butcher's story couldn't have been more different. The book is history with little continuaty between each story.
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Post by: Ordet on April 09, 2005, 07:03:09 AM
Quote from: mogwaii hope this movie rocks the pope's dead arse!

In the end PTA and the Pope share the same aspiration...

Bring us together.

They are poets of humanity.

Any recent pics of PTA?
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Post by: mogwai on April 09, 2005, 08:52:17 AM
Quote from: Roman CibelesAny recent pics of PTA?
i have a picture i took of pta a couple of months ago. i was holidaying in santa monica, ca. i had just seen a movie with my friend and that was "constantine" which was okay. when we exited the movie theatre we heard someone laughing behind us and i recognized the laugh. i turned around and there's paul with a couple of friends. there's already some people talking to him and he's signing autographs. i took one picture of him with my cellphone and here it is:

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv720%2Fithica45%2Fpta2005-02-22.jpg&hash=bfa250db6e9717f07d7bb2881149b15e9de1f92b)

we asked no questions about if he's working on a new script or anything. (we all know what he's working on now). we just said we liked his movies and he seemed very touched by that.
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Post by: modage on April 09, 2005, 11:17:12 AM
wow, he looks identical to what he looked like in brooklyn 2 years ago.

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.calsmodels.com%2Fimages%2FXIXAX%2Fpt_brooklyn.jpg&hash=f22d3b30eecd7750837eb3711012bdf58a89c1f8)
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Post by: mogwai on April 09, 2005, 11:30:40 AM
i feared that there were someone like you here. :yabbse-grin:  :yabbse-thumbup:
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Post by: modage on April 09, 2005, 11:35:52 AM
haha, i knew those red poles were familiar.  :yabbse-grin:
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Post by: Ordet on April 10, 2005, 12:48:43 PM
Quotewe just said we liked his movies and he seemed very touched by that.

That was so cute.
Thanks guys

I haven't smoked in two weeks. I see those cigys in the picture and I get a big craving.

No remember "Peter Jennings".

Hey by the way there's this dude at imdb who's been posting for a while that PTA's next film is on OJ's murder case. Orlando Jones is playing OJ and apperently he's beefing up.
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Post by: cecilia on April 10, 2005, 09:17:36 PM
This is great news.  I'm sure he'll tell it as period piece and that's what I'm giddiest about.  I love old California, architecture and history don't run very deep here but I'm so fascinated by what we do have.  I spend a lot of time driving through the old neighborhoods in OC and LA and often feel heartbroken to imagine all that we have lost.   I've always enjoyed watching the California that PTA has shown us onscreen before but I am really going to love this.  

I would love to read the book, never knew about it until now, not just because of the movie, but otherwise it sounds very interesting to me.  I won't read it until after I see the movie.  I decided this rule a long time ago: movie before book if you have a choice.  Even though you might think the book would be fuzzy by the time the movie is released, there will be a lot of speculation and talk to keep you stimulated on the details of the book up until the film opens.  

Oh, I also think DDL is an ideal actor to lead this project.

So what do you guys think...once we hear the project has been financed, 3 more years?

Painful.
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Post by: tpfkabi on April 10, 2005, 10:38:02 PM
Quote from: depooter..don't forget that the PDL had a few elements from "Knuckle Sandwich" (as did Magnolia)..

what exactly is Knuckle Sandwich?

i just now found this thread.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 11, 2005, 11:28:56 AM
Quote from: bigideaswhat exactly is Knuckle Sandwich?
http://www.ptanderson.com/featurefilms/love/timeline.htm

Quote from: ptanderson.comabout the "top secret" PTA script entitled "Knuckle Sandwich". They go on to explain details about the script & speculate that it's been written for the proposed Adam Sandler Project. Then at the very end of the article, they dismiss the script after speaking with their "sources" at New Line. Without bashing another site, please remember that Harry Knowles' site primarily consists of rumors. Some that are true, some that are not. Rest assured, that PTA did write a script called Knuckle Sandwich back in 1993 & it's not the focus for the Adam Sandler project.
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Post by: tpfkabi on April 11, 2005, 06:55:37 PM
thanks.
i knew that "Knuckle" was possibly part of the title, but depooter said that PDL and Magnolia contained parts of it..........which means they either have a copy of this script or PTA just said so in an interview.
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Post by: Alethia on April 12, 2005, 08:11:39 AM
it says that knuckle sandwich was pta's first published screenplay on gregs site...
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Post by: Weak2ndAct on April 13, 2005, 06:19:13 AM
Psst.

"There Will Be Blood" is the title of the new movie.
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Post by: ono on April 13, 2005, 07:55:49 AM
Have I told you lately that I love you?

A good question to consider, though:
Quote from: At IMDb.com, huronphishis whether this will be a period piece (Sinclair's novel was originally published in 1927) and about the Teapot Dome scandal, or if it will be a modern day retelling with a possible link to the controversy surrounding the oil industry stemming from the Iraq War. Although by far P.T.'s best film was his only period piece, my bet is its the latter and that would be preferable.
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Post by: Pubrick on April 13, 2005, 09:34:33 AM
uh, i'm willing to bet my balzac that he won't modernize it. (cine knows how much that's worth)

he has the opportunity to tell a very unique "birth of a nation" type story about a defining moment of his beloved state, why would he cater to idiots by stripping away all subtlety and making it about today? if ppl wanna draw parallels that's basically what subtext is about, i can't believe anyone can honestly consider it. i mean, PDL wasn't that great, but he didn't become a RETARD. sheesh.

i'm not saying he won't make any changes to it, but to set it today would be a real let down.
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Post by: soixante on April 13, 2005, 04:45:00 PM
Quote from: Pubrickuh, i'm willing to bet my balzac that he won't modernize it. (cine knows how much that's worth)

he has the opportunity to tell a very unique "birth of a nation" type story about a defining moment of his beloved state, why would he cater to idiots by stripping away all subtlety and making it about today? if ppl wanna draw parallels that's basically what subtext is about, i can't believe anyone can honestly consider it. i mean, PDL wasn't that great, but he didn't become a RETARD. sheesh.

i'm not saying he won't make any changes to it, but to set it today would be a real let down.

Setting Oil in the present day would be like setting Chinatown in the present day.  Chinatown deals with corruption at a very specific time in L.A.'s history, and the parallels to the world of 1974, when the film came out, were self-evident.
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Post by: Find Your Magali on April 19, 2005, 09:02:27 AM
Is this movie out yet?   :brickwall:
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Post by: classical gas on April 20, 2005, 01:27:12 PM
has anyone been to the imdb message boards for pta?  i usually avoid them because their full of fools and this is a prime example, a guy claims that he is good friends with orlando jone's assistant and pta's next film will star jone's as oj simpson.  he's pretty persistent and awfully confident throughout the thread.  oh, and he says ptanderson.com is run by fan boys.  what a dumb shit.
anyways: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000759/board/nest/17275639

sorry for such an utterly pointless post, but then again, it'll probably fit right in.
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Post by: Sleuth on April 20, 2005, 05:49:01 PM
I have a gut feeling that he's telling the truth! :violin:
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Post by: Pubrick on April 21, 2005, 01:46:45 AM
Quote from: SleuthI have a gut feeling that he's telling the truth! :violin:
i hav a gut feeling i'll be punching u in the gut!
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Post by: Weak2ndAct on April 21, 2005, 02:25:30 AM
I'm surprised that after I revealed the title to the flick, there was pretty much a non-response.  Perhaps my upcoming script review will shake things up.
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Post by: SHAFTR on April 21, 2005, 02:38:26 AM
Quote from: Weak2ndActI'm surprised that after I revealed the title to the flick, there was pretty much a non-response.  Perhaps my upcoming script review will shake things up.

I just saw your title reveal.  What is your source?
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Post by: Pubrick on April 21, 2005, 02:41:21 AM
Quote from: SHAFTR
Quote from: Weak2ndActI'm surprised that after I revealed the title to the flick, there was pretty much a non-response.  Perhaps my upcoming script review will shake things up.

I just saw your title reveal.  What is your source?
himself, obviously.
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Post by: Weak2ndAct on April 21, 2005, 02:45:21 AM
Quote from: SHAFTR
Quote from: Weak2ndActI'm surprised that after I revealed the title to the flick, there was pretty much a non-response.  Perhaps my upcoming script review will shake things up.

I just saw your title reveal.  What is your source?
My copy of the script.
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Post by: SHAFTR on April 21, 2005, 02:47:45 AM
Quote from: Weak2ndAct
Quote from: SHAFTR
Quote from: Weak2ndActI'm surprised that after I revealed the title to the flick, there was pretty much a non-response.  Perhaps my upcoming script review will shake things up.

I just saw your title reveal.  What is your source?
My copy of the script.

Where did you acquire a copy of the script?
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Post by: Weak2ndAct on April 21, 2005, 02:53:12 AM
Dude, I'm not gonna blurt that out on the 'net and bite the hand that feeds me.
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Post by: SHAFTR on April 21, 2005, 02:54:47 AM
Quote from: Weak2ndActDude, I'm not gonna blurt that out on the 'net and bite the hand that feeds me.

Was it Space Ghost?
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Post by: Weak2ndAct on April 21, 2005, 03:47:37 AM
Okay.  So here's the deal:

'There Will Be Blood' is not a contemporary-Bush-slamming treatise.  It's set firmly at the turn of the century.  It's not a Magnolia-esque ensemble piece.  It's a Father/Son story, plain and simple (and yes, set in Southern California).  Daniel (a nod in the script to Day-Lewis?) is a down-and-dirty, hard-working prospector.  He struggles and gains some success.  One of his early endeavors kills a partner, which leaves him the responsibilty of taking care of the man's son, H.W.  Cut to a few years later.  Daniel is a respectable oil man, and H.W. is his right hand, illiterate and wise for his age.  Daniel is presented with a choice prospect by a young man, and despite his reservations, pursues it.  

The prospect is the young man's family homestead.  The family is fanatically religious and quite dim.  They sell the rights to drill to Daniel, and at first, things seem okay.  The land is fertile, and success seems eminent.  But troubles arise when the family's devotion to Christ gets in the way (which entails beating children).  The eldest son (who fanices himself a healer) wants to bless the drill bit.  And renovate the church.  Daniel scoffs at this.  And then disaster strikes.  To whom, I will not reveal here, but it propells much of the story.

For 130 pages, it's a great script.  Compelling and page-turning, there are graphic descriptions of how oil-drilling works and what happens when it goes awry (read: graphic deaths).  It reads like any PTA script, save for any curses or debauchery ('cept for one moment, where Daniel's sex life is brought up).  Everything is great... until the last 20 pages.  We jump 15 years ahead... and it all fallls to shit.  The narrative momentum has been derailed.  The punch is not there.  And with some bad casting, some scenes at end could turn out down right laughable (here's a hint: Stacy Edwards in 'In the Comapny of Men,' that's a fine line).  

Honestly, as is, I do not see this movie getting made anytime soon.  It's too big, too sprawling, and too depressing (not to mention the outright contempt that's displayed towards organized religion).  There is no humor here.  It's a straight-up, hard-core drama about the need for family connections, yet a contempt for humanity (my favorite scene has Daniel explaining how he hates, well, everyone).  

P.S. The title has to do with baptisms.

P.P.S.  I'm wondering at this point if this script has anything to do with Sinclair's 'Oil!'  I have not read the book, but from what I've gathered, apart from the time period and the drilling stuff, it's quite a different story (and btw, the script makes no mention of any adaptation).
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Post by: Pubrick on April 21, 2005, 04:45:13 AM
Quote from: flagpolespecialbut weak2ndact don't be offended that people don't believe you because nothing is confirmed as yet. i'm still somewhat sceptical but believe, if you are lying, you've done a good of suckering me in, to a degree.

but like i say. it wouldn't surprise me at all now if what weak2ndact is saying true.

let the speculation frenzy begin.
wtf dude? there's no reason to think w2a is lying about what he's said.

especially when he writes:
QuoteP.P.S. I'm wondering at this point if this script has anything to do with Sinclair's 'Oil!' I have not read the book, but from what I've gathered, apart from the time period and the drilling stuff, it's quite a different story (and btw, the script makes no mention of any adaptation).
he obviously has a script in his hands. the legitimacy of this script (and the draft number?) remains in question, he himself admits that.
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Post by: Gamblour. on April 21, 2005, 11:39:57 AM
Well if this script's story is different that Oil! then I wonder what the connection is between this draft and the news elsewhere that he's adapting the book.
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Post by: RegularKarate on April 21, 2005, 01:29:43 PM
I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here.

The fake script.. the announcement.  This is all a clever ruse to sell copies of Sinclair's Oil.  P.T. has sold out.

look forward to anouncements of other adaptations of unsuccesful books, complete with "screenplay leaks" written to look like works of P.T.
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Post by: atticus jones on April 21, 2005, 02:22:34 PM
Quote from: Weak2ndActDaniel scoffs at this.  And then disaster strikes.  To whom, I will not reveal here, but it propells much of the story.

i've got goosebumps...
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Post by: atticus jones on April 21, 2005, 02:27:46 PM
Quote from: Weak2ndActOkay.  So here's the deal:

'There Will Be Blood' is... a drama about a contempt for humanity (my favorite scene has Daniel explaining how he hates, well, everyone).  


who would have thought there was so much negativity in him?  he always seems so affable...
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Post by: UncleJoey on April 21, 2005, 02:32:42 PM
Quote from: atticus jones
Quote from: Weak2ndActDaniel scoffs at this.  And then disaster strikes.  To whom, I will not reveal here, but it propells much of the story.

i've got goosebumps...

I knew it!!
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Post by: Pozer on April 21, 2005, 09:05:24 PM
So what you're sayin' is that it pretty much has a Weak3rdAct...
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Post by: Sal on April 22, 2005, 01:09:45 AM
pwned
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Post by: Ghostboy on April 24, 2005, 04:26:04 PM
Anyone made any progress with the book yet? I'm about a quarter of the way through, after starting it last week - it's a good read, highly enjoyable, possibly subversive, although I haven't made it that far yet (although I anticipate it, knowing that Sinclair was a socialist).

Sinclair's depiction of revival preaching, and Bunny's dad's subtle lampooning of it, is hilarious.
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Post by: Ravi on April 25, 2005, 11:33:15 PM
Looking forward to reading this.  I liked The Jungle.
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Post by: Ghostboy on April 27, 2005, 03:32:15 PM
The latest update at Greg's site suggests that the new title may be There Was Blood.

Come on, Weak2ndAct, review the script!
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Post by: MacGuffin on April 27, 2005, 03:39:55 PM
Quote from: GhostboyCome on, Weak2ndAct, review the script!

He did. It's back one page.
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Post by: Ghostboy on April 27, 2005, 04:01:20 PM
Damn, how'd I manage to skip an entire page? Crazy.

Anyway...

Quote from: Weak2ndAct
The prospect is the young man's family homestead.  The family is fanatically religious and quite dim.  They sell the rights to drill to Daniel, and at first, things seem okay.  The land is fertile, and success seems eminent.  But troubles arise when the family's devotion to Christ gets in the way (which entails beating children).  The eldest son (who fanices himself a healer) wants to bless the drill bit.  And renovate the church.  Daniel scoffs at this.  And then disaster strikes.  To whom, I will not reveal here, but it propells much of the story.

That's exactly what happens in the novel.

Everything else he described, the character names and their relationships, sounds completely original. So I'd guess this is sort of like what Kubrick did with some of his adaptations - taking inspiration from some obscure novel and using it as a platform for a new story.
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Post by: Ultrahip on April 27, 2005, 05:52:02 PM
But Weak2ndAct also said it wasn't very good, which is impossible. I mean, PTA wrote it.
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Post by: MacGuffin on April 27, 2005, 06:01:16 PM
Quote from: UltrahipBut Weak2ndAct also said it wasn't very good

He said only the ending wasn't very good:

Quote from: Weak2ndActFor 130 pages, it's a great script.  Compelling and page-turning, there are graphic descriptions of how oil-drilling works and what happens when it goes awry (read: graphic deaths).  It reads like any PTA script, save for any curses or debauchery ('cept for one moment, where Daniel's sex life is brought up).  Everything is great... until the last 20 pages. We jump 15 years ahead... and it all fallls to shit. The narrative momentum has been derailed. The punch is not there.
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Post by: Pozer on April 27, 2005, 10:02:30 PM
Love the title. So far, it all sounds good to me.
Weak 2nd, come on dude, transcribe the first few pages. Just for kicks.
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Post by: modage on April 29, 2005, 04:29:38 PM
Quote from: GhostboyThe latest update at Greg's site suggests that the new title may be There Was Blood.
on Greg's site, its been fixed/updated to There Will Be Blood, not that its confirmed.
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Post by: Pozer on April 29, 2005, 05:24:43 PM
I read somewhere that someone met Daniel Day's wife backstage somewhere and she told the person that he is doin' the movie with Paul and the title is 'There Was Blood.'
Boat loads of speculation to come, am I right?
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Post by: Bethie on April 30, 2005, 04:03:34 AM
the title means everything, doesn't it.
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Post by: AntiDumbFrogQuestion on May 03, 2005, 06:40:20 AM
Quote from: Bethiethe title means everything, doesn't it.

yeah, like, y'know, Knuckle Sandwhich, or Punch-Drunk Knuckle Love...that sorta thing
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Post by: Pubrick on May 03, 2005, 07:53:30 AM
AntiDumbTitleQuestion
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Post by: Find Your Magali on May 09, 2005, 06:56:52 PM
Hmmm. Our combined detective work has not yet hit full gear.

I figured that, by now, we'd know which role PSH was playing.  :yabbse-tongue:
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Post by: analogzombie on May 09, 2005, 09:10:45 PM
Quote from: Find Your MagaliHmmm. Our combined detective work has not yet hit full gear.

I figured that, by now, we'd know which role PSH was playing.  :yabbse-tongue:

He's playing the sad-sack, yet good hearted, loser.
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Post by: Gamblour. on May 09, 2005, 11:40:38 PM
You mean MacBeth (http://www.xixax.com/viewtopic.php?p=185401#185401)?
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Post by: Pubrick on May 10, 2005, 08:03:56 AM
Quote from: Find Your MagaliI figured that, by now, we'd know which role PSH was playing.  :yabbse-tongue:
he's the oil.
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Post by: Ultrahip on May 10, 2005, 10:27:11 AM
he could be mr. watkins, it'd be kind of like his cold mountain role.
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Post by: Satcho9 on June 01, 2005, 03:33:09 PM
Don't know if this has been posted yet....but Daniel Day Lewis is on the cover of the newest FADE IN magazine (excellent read by the way)...here is my shitty Transcription of what he says about PTA.

FADE IN: We hear your next project will be with Paul Thomas Anderson. Can you talk about it yet?

Daniel Day-Lewis: You can ask the question. We are still hoping that it's going to [go], and it will probably happen sometime this year.

FI: Was it Anderson's script that hooked you?

DDL: It always begins with a script. If the script doesn't appeal to you, it doesn't matter how much you admire a man through his work. You have to begin with that initial shocking encounter. He's a wonderful writer, quite apart from everything else. Then other things begin to simmer away there, too. Certainly I've been a huge admirer of Paul's work, and I like spending time with him as a man, too.

FI: The purported title of Anderson's script is AND THERE WILL BE BLOOD. Should we expect a bloodbath?

DDL: Not a bloodbath, no. But there's got to be some blood.


And thats all they really say about the film. But I find it to be rewarding nonetheless....so enjoy...
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Post by: MacGuffin on June 01, 2005, 04:11:21 PM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fadeinonline.com%2Fimage_bank%2FLewis_Cvr_SM.jpg&hash=711fab633e30f82c2581adc9965650be2c7be302)
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Post by: modage on June 01, 2005, 04:50:27 PM
this would've been good news for ptanderson.com.   :(

and in the new EW they mention Boogie Nights having some of the best deleted scenes.
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Post by: Pozer on June 01, 2005, 05:27:14 PM
yet another brilliant three name actor to add to the ensemble. gotta love it.
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Post by: Ordet on June 05, 2005, 06:04:43 PM
Just had a thought. There is no clear outline of how to do it because it just came to me. Maybe it's dumb but anyway.

What if when the new site opens or something, we start an email in favor of the new PTA film getting made, we all sign it and make everyone else we know sign it and the people they know and so on and when the list gets huge we send it to the man himself (agent, contact-John Lesher). And they can decide what to do with it,  but it might come in handy while getting the finance.
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Post by: The Perineum Falcon on June 05, 2005, 07:44:38 PM
Quote from: Roman CibelesAnd they can decide what to do with it,  but it might come in handy while getting the finance.
'Cause we'll all pay for it??
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Post by: matt35mm on June 05, 2005, 08:03:49 PM
Quote from: Roman CibelesJust had a thought. There is no clear outline of how to do it because it just came to me. Maybe it's dumb but anyway.

What if when the new site opens or something, we start an email in favor of the new PTA film getting made, we all sign it and make everyone else we know sign it and the people they know and so on and when the list gets huge we send it to the man himself (agent, contact-John Lesher). And they can decide what to do with it,  but it might come in handy while getting the finance.
I don't think it'll help because any financier would already know that PTA has many dedicated fans who would, of course, want a new PTA movie financed.  Unless you came up with 5 million names, each of which promised to buy a ticket or more, then it's useless.  It won't tell anybody anything that they don't already know.
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Post by: Ultrahip on June 05, 2005, 09:13:19 PM
We could right them a song! Like, just for kicks. But that'd be fun!
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Post by: Pubrick on June 05, 2005, 09:25:48 PM
Quote from: Roman CibelesJust had a thought. There is no clear outline of how to do it because it just came to me. Maybe it's dumb but anyway.

What if when the new site opens or something, we start an email in favor of the new PTA film getting made, we all sign it and make everyone else we know sign it and the people they know and so on and when the list gets huge we send it to the man himself (agent, contact-John Lesher). And they can decide what to do with it,  but it might come in handy while getting the finance.
uh.. let's not and say we did.
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Post by: NEON MERCURY on June 05, 2005, 09:40:34 PM
Quote from: UltrahipWe could right them a song! Like, just for kicks. But that'd be fun!




[classical piano opening]

[spoken/whispering:]
pta, please make my life have meaning...

[drums and bass w/ electric guitar]

[verse one:]
i remember the first time i saw sydney....  ooooh-la-la
i thought it was artistic and trendy .....ooooh-la-la
i cried (boo-hoo) when the studios made that fatal mistake
how dare they change the title to hard eight.... oooh-la-la


[chorus one:]

[piano stops: only guitar and drums w/ low frequency bass]

PTA!!!!! you got me starting smokign cigarettes
PTA!!!!! you made me realize watching hours porn could be helpful
PTA!!!!! you made me want to enslave and fuck chinese boys  throwing fireworks as i made my drug deals
PTA!!!! but PTA!!!!! [only slow piano] b..u...t  p...t...a, there will be blood ......must.......... be .......maDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[guitars/drums/bass]

[verse two:]

visions of the magnolia trailor clouded my mind....ooooh-la-la
.........
.............................
.
..
.....................................
.




.............................................................uh, i give up :saywhat:
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Post by: Ultrahip on June 05, 2005, 11:25:17 PM
a heroic effort!
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Post by: Ordet on June 05, 2005, 11:50:11 PM
I say we do it just for the heck of it...
How many names you think we could get?
Who ever comes the closest gets a date for with Joanne Sellar and Daniel Lupi
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Post by: SiliasRuby on June 06, 2005, 07:16:43 AM
Quote from: NEON MERCURY

[classical piano opening]

[spoken/whispering:]
pta, please make my life have meaning...

[drums and bass w/ electric guitar]

[verse one:]
i remember the first time i saw sydney....  ooooh-la-la
i thought it was artistic and trendy .....ooooh-la-la
i cried (boo-hoo) when the studios made that fatal mistake
how dare they change the title to hard eight.... oooh-la-la


[chorus one:]

[piano stops: only guitar and drums w/ low frequency bass]

PTA!!!!! you got me starting smokign cigarettes
PTA!!!!! you made me realize watching hours porn could be helpful
PTA!!!!! you made me want to enslave and fuck chinese boys  throwing fireworks as i made my drug deals
PTA!!!! but PTA!!!!! [only slow piano] b..u...t  p...t...a, there will be blood ......must.......... be .......maDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[guitars/drums/bass]

[verse two:]

visions of the magnolia trailor clouded my mind....ooooh-la-la
.........
.............................
.
..
.....................................
.




.............................................................uh, i give up :saywhat:
:bravo: that was fucking classic.
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Post by: Pubrick on June 06, 2005, 08:46:24 AM
Quote from: Roman CibelesI say we do it just for the heck of it...
knock urself out dude. i'll just be over here doing sumthing.. less pointless.
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Post by: Ordet on June 07, 2005, 04:22:54 AM
Quote from: Pubrick
Quote from: Roman CibelesI say we do it just for the heck of it...
knock urself out dude. i'll just be over here doing sumthing.. less pointless.

yeah my ideas are always stupid. My whole life is pointless.

I'm sorry I annoy everyone. :cry:
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Post by: Pozer on June 07, 2005, 05:24:21 PM
still doin' it.
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Post by: gozzard on June 13, 2005, 06:58:03 AM
hi to everyone... i'm an italian student, from boulogne, and i'd like to talk with greg mariotti... does anyone knows his e-mail addres?
thanx

bye
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Post by: Pubrick on June 13, 2005, 11:17:21 AM
Quote from: gozzardhi to everyone... i'm an italian student, from boulogne, and i'd like to talk with greg mariotti... does anyone knows his e-mail addres?
thanx

bye
it's at the ptanderson site. i assume that's how u found this place..
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Post by: gozzard on June 14, 2005, 01:44:16 AM
thank u!
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Post by: Myxo on July 22, 2005, 03:29:14 PM
Any of you Xixers "in the know" know where PTA is at with this film? Did he get it funded?
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Post by: Pozer on July 22, 2005, 07:28:29 PM
I'm sure it would have been posted right away.
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Post by: sickfins on July 24, 2005, 04:00:00 PM
Quote from: MyxomatosisAny of you Xixers "in the know" know where PTA is at with this film? Did he get it funded?

there isn't going to be anything massive announced on this project for a while...
there are things to be dealt with and it is moving slowly
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Post by: The Perineum Falcon on July 24, 2005, 04:09:56 PM
If only we'd signed that list! :(
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Post by: Derek on July 25, 2005, 11:40:42 AM
This month's issue of FAMOUS (an entertainment magazine distributed in Canadian theaters) has an interview with Vancouver actor David Richmond-Peck, who has a small part as an art gallery patron in Fantastic Four. In the article, he mentions he has already auditioned for PT Anderson's next movie, which he says is based on a book written in the 20's. He must be referring to OIL! He scavenged bookstores in Vancouver after reading for the part, and found a copy at an old used bookstore. Not much information beyond that, but the wheels are turning....

Sorry, didn't keep a copy of the magazine.
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Post by: Ultrahip on July 25, 2005, 12:52:20 PM
this three name thing is getting out of control
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Post by: Bethie on July 26, 2005, 02:09:12 AM
you can say that again, ultrahip lobster supper.
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Post by: polkablues on July 26, 2005, 03:13:14 AM
Quote from: Bethieyou can say that again, ultrahip lobster supper.

SNAP!

Anyway, everyone knows that people with three names are assassins.  Lee Harvey Oswald, James Earl Ray, John Wilkes Booth, and so forth.
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Post by: Alethia on July 26, 2005, 12:11:36 PM
mark david chapman
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Post by: Ultrahip on July 26, 2005, 12:22:40 PM
oh. yeah. it was uh, meant to be ironic. i swear.
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Post by: JG on August 02, 2005, 01:22:48 PM
i have a feeling this movie won't get made.   at least not for another 5 years.

It does sound good though.
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Post by: polkablues on August 02, 2005, 01:28:39 PM
Quote from: Derek...interview with Vancouver actor David Richmond Peck... In the article, he mentions he has already auditioned for PT Anderson's next movie.

If they've been holding auditions, that's a good sign.  Unless they're tremendously naively optimistic and enjoy keeping actors in limbo for years at a time while they find investors. Which is possible.
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Post by: JG on August 05, 2005, 09:48:37 PM
Quote from: Weak2ndActDude, I'm not gonna blurt that out on the 'net and bite the hand that feeds me.

do you generally get scripts early?  i'm not asking your source i just find it interesting that you, and only you (that we know of), have the script.  I do believe you, though.  But I have a feeling it was an early draft and and uneasiness that you have about the script will be erased once we see the movie.

I really hope this gets made.  I don't want PTA to wait years between new movies.

And for some reason, I think this movie is really gonna be Altman-esque, even more so than his other movies.
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Post by: SiliasRuby on August 06, 2005, 12:01:07 PM
Quote from: Bethieyou can say that again, ultrahip lobster supper.
I bet that is just fun to say, ain't it?
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Post by: Pozer on August 06, 2005, 05:32:26 PM
Are you guys down to only post here when there's new info?  I hate checking in when there's no actual updates...  of course I'm pretty much doing that right now, aren't I?
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Post by: ono on August 06, 2005, 05:41:20 PM
An idea: someone could update the title of the thread with a headline a la Criterion thread if there's any new news.
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Post by: RegularKarate on August 06, 2005, 06:52:18 PM
Quote from: onomatavivaAn idea: someone could update the title of the thread with a headline a la Criterion thread if there's any new news.

Good call
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Post by: JG on August 06, 2005, 11:16:03 PM
i do agree that we should no longer post unless there is no new information.  However, this was posted on the new pta site, and i wonder if it is Oil related.

Quotewe will have a very juicy little present for all of you in the very near future, stay tuned...

maybe a first draft of the script?
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Post by: Pubrick on August 07, 2005, 07:33:19 AM
Quote from: JimmyGatormaybe a first draft of the script?
i sumhow think that would not be it. also, u'll just hav to wait like they told u to.
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Post by: AntiDumbFrogQuestion on August 10, 2005, 04:37:23 PM
In the back of my mind I hope Mumbles O'Malley makes an appearance.  Just to complete the set of PBH monikers.
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Post by: Pozer on August 10, 2005, 05:31:32 PM
Dammit, it's not working.
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Post by: Garam on August 25, 2005, 07:13:42 PM
Called "There Will Be Blood" now on IMDb.
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Post by: Myxo on August 25, 2005, 08:06:58 PM
It's also listed as a 2006 release. Hah! Knowing PTA, he'll have to start shooting this very early next year if he wants an Oscar buzzing release around October - December of '06.
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Post by: Pozer on August 25, 2005, 08:58:44 PM
:yabbse-angry:  :oops:  :cry:  :yabbse-lipsrsealed:
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Post by: cron on August 25, 2005, 08:58:58 PM
the imdb lies all the time
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Post by: polkablues on August 25, 2005, 10:01:53 PM
Quote from: cronopiothe imdb lies all the time

Right you are.  A buddy of mine, as a test, submitted to the "trivia" section of the movie "Zoolander" the following factoid: "Ben Stiller took inspiration for the script from his pre-comedy career as a male runway model."  Three weeks later, it was on the site for all the world to see.

Two weeks later it was gone again.  So you see, we like to think of the IMDB as this infallible arbiter of film knowledge, but in reality it is little more than an expansive but poorly fact-checked cinematic Wikipedia.
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Post by: Pozer on August 25, 2005, 10:09:56 PM
Whoooooo cares.
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Post by: polkablues on August 25, 2005, 10:43:11 PM
Quote from: POZERWhoooooo cares.

:waving:  Me.  I do.
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Post by: Garam on August 26, 2005, 01:32:35 AM
Yeah, but the movies title is a little more important than a small piece of trivia.
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Post by: polkablues on August 26, 2005, 01:48:59 AM
Quote from: GaramYeah, but the movies title is a little more important than a small piece of trivia.

That just goes to show you how wildly unregulated IMDB really is.  They can't be taken as gospel, especially for movies early in development.
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Post by: Pubrick on August 26, 2005, 02:14:47 AM
it was announced on page 8, four months ago.. http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?p=182140#182140

i don't get what the mystery is.
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Post by: Pubrick on August 26, 2005, 02:30:14 AM
Quote from: GaramAnyway, i'm new.
yeah, u hav an excuse.

everyone else is acting like it's a goddamn revelation, it's even referred to in the PTA forum subtitle!
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Post by: Pubrick on August 26, 2005, 02:47:14 AM
Quote from: GaramAhh yeah. There Maya Rudolph be Blood if this new film doesn't happen.
it's not so obvious.

and ur not expected to notice that since u didn't know the name. also, this isn't a chat room, so we can stop this conversation now.
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Post by: 72teeth on August 26, 2005, 03:32:05 AM
moan...

and remember.....
Quote from: cronopiothe imdb lies all the time
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Post by: ono on August 26, 2005, 03:39:14 AM
So I heard PTA's new film's title was changed.  Details?!
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Post by: Pubrick on August 26, 2005, 04:11:13 AM
Quote from: GaramOoooh....You authority figure, you.
dude, wtf? ur making this about u when the whole point was u HAV an excuse and everyone else doesn't. sheesh. u were sposed to be one of the good newbs.
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Post by: Pozer on August 26, 2005, 05:37:07 PM
Good, newb, now no more posting here until there is some real new information.  I understand the desperation but c'mon now.
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Post by: MagnoliaFan25 on August 26, 2005, 07:31:55 PM
Ill start a resistance against the more posters!! fuck you dykes!!
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Post by: polkablues on August 26, 2005, 09:05:54 PM
Dammit.  I didn't read the post way back when when Weak2ndAct told us about the title (but I have a great excuse... I hadn't returned yet).  

Fuck.  Now I'm really pissed, because while IMDB has no credibility, Weak2nd does.  Dammit.  

I just don't want it to sound like a Chuck Norris movie, is all.  "Oil!" is a great title... almost "Snakes on a Plane" great.  Dammit.
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Post by: polkablues on August 26, 2005, 09:06:17 PM
Quote from: POZERnow no more posting here until there is some real new information.

Sorry.
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Post by: Myxo on August 27, 2005, 12:05:08 AM
Quote from: GaramHell, have some flowers on my behalf...

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.1stinflowers.com%2Fpics%2Fftd%2Fftdc2-3434.jpg&hash=d8f5cfac1a20dbff56a5ffe2efa95e1347638bd8)

Check out Garam. Romancing the Pubrick with a fine Mother's day arrangement.
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Post by: The Red Vine on August 28, 2005, 10:47:15 AM
"There Will Be Blood"

Interesting title change.
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Post by: bonanzataz on August 28, 2005, 03:37:58 PM
hey, can i up my post count here too?

paul thomas anderson.

oil.

blood.

sloppy vagina whore mouth.
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Post by: Pozer on August 28, 2005, 04:24:31 PM
Fine, kids.  Here's some pleasurable info for ya:

Paul Thomas Anderson anuncia novo projeto
Por Marcelo Hessel

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Paul Thomas Anderson andava meio sumido depois da temporada de divulgação de Embriagado de amor (Punch-drunk love, 2002). Mais isso mudou ontem quando o Ain't it cool news reverberou a notícia que saiu no site PTAnderson.com que garante que o diretor de Magnólia já tem outro filme a caminho. Trata-se de Oil!, adaptação do romance homônimo escrito em 1927 por Upton Sinclair (1878–1968) - estadunidense vencedor do Pulitzer, socialista atuante e crítico do capitalismo que denunciou em reconhecidos livros-reportagens.

Oil! fala justamente de intrigas na indústria petrolífera e de escândalos políticos que partem da Califórnia e sujam paletós em esfera nacional. Qualquer semelhança com o mundo real não é coincidência - uma novidade no universo lírico e não raro surreal do cineasta.

Seria, caso a notícia seja confirmada, a primeira vez que Anderson trabalharia sobre um texto que não é de sua autoria. E seria promissor.
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Post by: cron on August 28, 2005, 06:38:13 PM
oh i get it,  pleasurable is portuguese for old.
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Post by: Pozer on August 28, 2005, 06:44:46 PM
Which is precisely my point.  The pages of this thread are now repeating themselves with old news (which is causing me to feel like a cranky old fuck).  Thought this ancient tid-bit would be pleasurable for the kids.
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Post by: Pubrick on August 29, 2005, 03:01:55 AM
Quote from: POZER!Thought this ancient tid-bit would be pleasurable for the kids.
the kids should bother reading the rest of the threads they post in, or else shut their newborn traps.

that would be pleasurable for all.
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Post by: JG on December 24, 2005, 08:25:29 AM
QuoteThere will be a movie...Don't ask for details
right now, but needless to say. this is a promise.
it's very exciting and nerve-racking. it's been
so long and i feel a bit rusty - but well rested.
I imagine i'll come out of the starting block
with way too much energy before I settle back
into it. the comfort zone needs to be dismantled.


Do you think this means a late 2006 release, or just that he will be working on it through 2006?
A small tidbit of news, but still... 
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Post by: ABKman18 on December 24, 2005, 01:10:27 PM
I'm guessing it'll be more like shooting in spring or summer and then released in mid 2007.
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Post by: Pozer on December 24, 2005, 01:24:44 PM
I'm guessing he shoots it all in one week, edits for a year, walks away from it for another, reshoots for a year and three quarters and re-cuts for another half.  We're looking at a 2010 release I believe... but then again, I'm just speculating which is not pointless whatsoever.
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Post by: Sal on January 18, 2006, 01:15:47 AM
From THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER

Anderson puts 'Blood' on track

By Anne Thompson
Writer-director Paul Thomas Anderson is in advanced talks to produce and direct "There Will Be Blood," starring Daniel Day-Lewis as a turn-of-the-century Texas oil prospector in the early days of the oil business. The sprawling period piece, which Anderson has spent several years writing, is loosely adapted from Upton Sinclair's 1927 novel "Oil!"

Budgeted at more than $25 million, "Blood" will be jointly financed and distributed by Paramount's specialty films division and Miramax Films, according to Paramount specialty division president John Lesher. "It's an ambitious film and a compelling, relevant story about family, greed, religion and oil," Lesher said. "Paul is an incredible talent, exactly the kind of filmmaker the new division wants to be in business with."

Former Paramount power producer Scott Rudin, who has shifted his base of operations to Disney, where he struck a new deal last year, was instrumental in bringing in Disney subsidiary Miramax, led by president Daniel Battsek, as a 50/50 partner on "Blood." Paramount will handle domestic distribution, and Miramax will release the film in foreign territories, which could yield the lion's share of the final gross.

Anderson, whose most recent film was 2002's Adam Sandler vehicle "Punch-Drunk Love," will produce with his partner Joanne Sellar. Rudin and author Eric Schlosser ("Fast Food Nation") will executive produce. Casting is under way for a shoot that is set to begin in May, Lesher said. Locations include Martha, Texas, and Albuquerque, N.M.

Lesher, a former Endeavor agent, is wasting no time lining up projects, many of them involving such former A-list director clients as Anderson. Going forward, Rudin and Lesher will have "joint custody" on some movies on an "ad hoc basis," Rudin said.

Lesher should announce several more projects soon, as he and his team head this week into the acquisitions fray at the Sundance Film Festival. Lesher is also in the process of closing a deal for his new marketing chief.

Anderson is represented by Endeavor. Day-Lewis is repped by Gene Parseghian in New York and Victoria Belfrage in the U.K.; "Blood" will be his first film since last year's "The Ballad of Jack & Rose."
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Post by: Sal on January 18, 2006, 01:42:03 AM
From VARIETY.COM

'Blood' lust for Par and Miramax
Rudin to produce period drama for studios

Scott Rudin

Scott Rudin, who is transitioning from Paramount to Disney, is getting back into business with his old home.

Rudin will exec produce "There Will Be Blood," a period drama loosely based on the 1927 Upton Sinclair novel "Oil!," for ParPar Classics and the new Miramax.

Daniel Day-Lewis and director Paul Thomas Anderson will team this spring on the pic.

It is the first major project for John Lesher since he left Endeavor to take the top post at the classics division, which will soon be renamed.

Rudin is transitioning from Paramount to Disney, and one of his priorities will be to make prestige projects for Miramax.

The 50/50 partnership formula will be used on several pictures Rudin will put together this year. Some of those titles will be distributed domestically by Miramax, with Paramount taking foreign.

Lesher's unit will handle domestic distribution rights, while Daniel Battsek's Miramax will distribute internationally.

Anderson wrote the script and used as his basis Sinclair's expose of the seamy side of the drilling business in Southern California when it became the equivalent of the gold rush.

Day-Lewis will play a prospector who buys the oil rights to a family's ranch, and then hits a major pocket of crude. The story then turns into a tale of greed and faith, as the prospector realizes the American dream and is destroyed by it.

Pic will be produced by Anderson and Joanne Sellar, with Rudin exec producing with Eric Schlosser, the author of "Fast Food Nation." Shooting will begin mid-May, in Texas and New Mexico.

Lesher was Anderson's longtime agent, and knew the project well because he tried to set it up independently last year. Day-Lewis was already doing his research on his character and the oil business, but the project's summer 2005 shoot stalled because of problems raising the budget Anderson felt he needed. The agency and Day-Lewis' reps, Gene Parseghian and Victoria Belfrage kept pushing and Day-Lewis didn't take another acting job.

The wait was worth it, as the package allows them to make a large-canvas picture for a budget just north of $20 million.
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Post by: modage on January 18, 2006, 08:42:58 AM
wow, it's real.
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Post by: Gamblour. on January 18, 2006, 08:59:36 AM
Way to go aintitcool. They really hadn't heard a thing about this: http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=22213
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Post by: Kal on January 18, 2006, 09:12:05 AM
its finally happening!!

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Post by: modage on January 18, 2006, 09:40:31 AM
Quote from: joblo
A portion of a script review, originally posted at message board xixax.com says this of Anderson's BLOOD script: For 130 pages, it's a great script. Compelling and page-turning, there are graphic descriptions of how oil-drilling works and what happens when it goes awry (read: graphic deaths). It reads like any PTA script, save for any curses or debauchery ('cept for one moment, where Daniel's sex life is brought up). Everything is great... until the last 20 pages. We jump 15 years ahead... and it all fallls to ****. The narrative momentum has been derailed. The punch is not there. And with some bad casting, some scenes at end could turn out down right laughable. Even though I didn't love MAGNOLIA, I respect the film greatly and can't wait to see what Anderson will do with this flick (and one of the best actors around in Day-Lewis).
http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=10000
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on January 18, 2006, 10:14:39 AM
 :shock:  They're watching us.
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Post by: Pubrick on January 18, 2006, 10:23:25 AM
Quote from: Weak2ndAct on January 18, 2006, 10:20:02 AM
Quote from: jobloEven though I didn't love MAGNOLIA, I respect the film greatly and can't wait to see what Anderson will do with this flick (and one of the best actors around in Day-Lewis).
Gah, I didn't fucking write that!  Misquote!
haha yeah it was written badly on the site.

isn't it weird, first deathnotronic's teacher is giving a class based on Weak2ndAct's boondock saints review, and now W2A is getting quoted at joblo. someone's wearin a wire..
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Post by: Pozer on January 18, 2006, 10:53:09 AM
That's funny... and thank god - I got the email for the Oil thread and thought I would find someone posting "any new news about this?" or a speculation or something but instead I got a spectacular bit of info on it.  Does MacGuffs need to be redirected two posts up to the Hollywood Reporter article?  :shock:
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Post by: w/o horse on January 18, 2006, 12:11:17 PM
Reports are coming in across the wire.
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Post by: ono on January 18, 2006, 12:26:25 PM
Quote from: "John Lesher" on January 18, 2006, 01:15:47 AM
Casting is under way for a shoot that is set to begin in May
So, think it'll be out by December?
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Post by: Pozer on January 18, 2006, 12:29:58 PM
We'll see ono, we'll see.
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Post by: modage on January 18, 2006, 12:30:46 PM
I'm guessing it'll be more like shooting in spring or summer and then released in mid 2007.
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Post by: AntiDumbFrogQuestion on January 18, 2006, 01:34:45 PM
I still see Daniel-Day Lewis (or let's just say DDL) as Bill the Butcher in this flick. And if he is? Good. If he isn't? Good. I just dig him.
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Post by: jigzaw on January 21, 2006, 11:50:41 AM
Quote from: pozer on December 24, 2005, 01:24:44 PM
I'm guessing he shoots it all in one week, edits for a year, walks away from it for another, reshoots for a year and three quarters and re-cuts for another half.  We're looking at a 2010 release I believe... but then again, I'm just speculating which is not pointless whatsoever.

Why?  He does take a long time writing and getting shit together, but his film projects have all been very professionally done and I've never seen evidence of his flaking out once shooting begins.
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Post by: Pozer on January 21, 2006, 01:27:01 PM
Yo, Johnny Come Lately, I was mimicking all the pointless speculation that came before.
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Post by: godardian on February 01, 2006, 05:16:05 PM
I just picked up a copy of the book, but I've no idea when I'll find the time to read it. MAYBE before the film is shot/edited/released.  :yabbse-smiley: Has anyone here read it? What's your take?
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Post by: Sal on February 01, 2006, 08:03:03 PM
I've not read the book but I did read the script so I'm not sure if its a loosely based adaptation or a more direct approach to the material..
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Post by: Ordet on February 01, 2006, 08:54:46 PM
How did you get a hold of the script?

What did you think?

Can we get some?
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Post by: RegularKarate on February 01, 2006, 11:57:03 PM
I'm a little more than halfway through the book and so far I think it would make the outline for an awesome mini-series (if miniseries were ever good), but I doubt the film could be much more than loosely based on it.
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Post by: Sal on February 03, 2006, 01:16:59 PM
Quote from: Roman Cibeles on February 01, 2006, 08:54:46 PM
What did you think?

I appreciated that it was a father-son story first.  Harrowing things happen between them, and for a good portion of the time the son is actually out of the story (the reason why is very depressing).  This film, if shot by the script, will be much less politically charged than most people might expect.  I think more of the focus, surprisingly enough, is on religion.  Specifically, religious thinking that gets people into trouble, a la CHILDREN OF THE CORN (horror elements withstanding obviously though there are very 'horrific' things in here just the same).  I remember reading someone's beef about the ending because it jumps forward in time but I felt it was earned.  Again, Anderson's films work because the drama and the circumstances are earned through the storytelling.
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Post by: Pozer on February 03, 2006, 02:55:55 PM
Kinda vague on the thoughts.

Just out of curiosity, were the CAMERA actions inserted into the draft you read? 

How many pages?

And yes, HOW DID YOU GET A HOLD OF THE SCRIPT?  Give a loosely based answer at least, man.
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Post by: Sal on February 03, 2006, 07:37:25 PM
Yes, camera actions were abundant.  Sometimes scenes were left vague with (see dir. notes) inserted inside, and other times it would read, "this scene is going to be...." so it's not a final draft by any stretch of the imagination.  I dont remember how many pgs, it was quite a lot for a feature film though - about two and a half, maybe three hours long if you want to consider one page equal to a minute of film.  And I got a hold of the script at a production company. 
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Post by: Pozer on February 03, 2006, 09:50:22 PM
At a production company... just like that.  Used to be so protective of leakage.
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Post by: polkablues on February 03, 2006, 11:59:32 PM
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known As on February 03, 2006, 09:50:22 PM
At a production company... just like that.  Used to be so protective of leakage.

But if it was "Snakes on a Plane" it would have been locked in a metal briefcase and handcuffed to an intern with a cyanide capsule in his tooth.
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Post by: FORT on February 04, 2006, 12:12:20 AM
points for that obscure but apropos reference.
"..I was once a man!" why do talking snakes always say that shit?

ps.
..not posting again till i get a good av.
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Post by: Ghostboy on February 04, 2006, 12:20:33 AM
Quote from: godardian on February 01, 2006, 05:16:05 PM
I just picked up a copy of the book, but I've no idea when I'll find the time to read it. MAYBE before the film is shot/edited/released.  :yabbse-smiley: Has anyone here read it? What's your take?

I read the book last year (my short review here/ (http://www.road-dog-productions.com/cgi-bin/2005/05/i_love_the_work.html). It's a terrific read, so I'd recommend it even if (or, rather, especially if) the movie is only going to be loosely based on it. From Sal's description, it seems the script, in focusing on the father, takes the opposite approach of the book, which is all about the son.
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Post by: Sal on February 04, 2006, 06:31:41 AM
Quote from: polkablues on February 03, 2006, 11:59:32 PM
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known As on February 03, 2006, 09:50:22 PM
At a production company... just like that.  Used to be so protective of leakage.

But if it was "Snakes on a Plane" it would have been locked in a metal briefcase and handcuffed to an intern with a cyanide capsule in his tooth.

Actually I got that one too, but it's called Pacific Air 121. 
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Post by: JG on February 04, 2006, 08:17:23 AM
you guys think there's a chance we'll get our hands on a script any time soon?  If so, will you read it?
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Post by: ©brad on February 04, 2006, 10:38:17 AM
i don't understand why anyone would want to read the script before seeing the movie.
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Post by: The Red Vine on February 04, 2006, 03:53:07 PM
Quote from: ©brad on February 04, 2006, 10:38:17 AM
i don't understand why anyone would want to read the script before seeing the movie.

It would be cool to read it and imagine what PTA was gonna do with the scenes. But yeah, I probably wouldn't read it.
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Post by: md on February 04, 2006, 04:05:36 PM
Quote from: ©brad on February 04, 2006, 10:38:17 AM
i don't understand why anyone would want to read the script before seeing the movie.

its kinda like an imaginary cinematic iq test
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Post by: Pozer on February 04, 2006, 05:11:49 PM
I would first read the opening then flip to somewhere in the middle and read a scene.  It would be fun to recognize that later on.  After that, it would be quite the challenge to keep away from it, no doubt.

Sal, send me a copy, I'm up for the test.
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Post by: Ordet on February 07, 2006, 08:17:01 PM
id love to read it. cmmon we´re film geeks. sal from the read and it being a period film does it seem like its gonna be expensive? The word is it wil be over 25 mil.
reading it would be like seeing the girl you are in love with naked, before you even date her.
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Post by: last days of gerry the elephant on February 07, 2006, 09:54:50 PM
I wouldn't mind browsing the script myself, I probably won't read it entirely though... or would I? It's hard to say :p

(btw, I'm new here and this is my first post, nice to see other fans around! I'm sure it'll be a pleasant experience!)
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Post by: MacGuffin on February 07, 2006, 10:06:34 PM
Quote from: musse on February 07, 2006, 09:54:50 PM
(btw, I'm new here and this is my first post, nice to see other fans around! I'm sure it'll be a pleasant experience!)

Welcome. Share yourself here:

http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=2.0
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Post by: picolas on February 08, 2006, 12:34:46 AM
http://movies.hsx.com/servlet/SecurityDetail?symbol=TWBLD

trading begins on Friday.
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Post by: ©brad on February 08, 2006, 12:49:36 PM
Quote from: Roman Cibeles on February 07, 2006, 08:17:01 PMreading it would be like seeing the girl you are in love with naked, before you even date her.

yeah but doesn't that spoil the surprise when you finally do get to sleep with her? kind of like a pleasure-delayer thing, where you anticipate what she looks like naked and you build excitement and on opening night you finally get her back to your place and...

oh fuck it. read the goddamn thing. what do i care.
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Post by: JG on February 08, 2006, 04:24:24 PM
i am still conflicted about seeing infernal affairs before i see the departed.  do you feel it's the same principle?
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Post by: matt35mm on February 08, 2006, 04:41:37 PM
Quote from: JimmyGator on February 08, 2006, 04:24:24 PM
i am still conflicted about seeing infernal affairs before i see the departed.  do you feel it's the same principle?
I don't think it is (I know you weren't asking me, but I wanted to chime in anyway).  Infernal Affiairs is its own piece of work, never designed to be adapted.  Additionally, Infernal Affairs is probably about as worth watching as The Departed will be, so if you saw The Departed first, it's still seeing one movie before the other.

Ideally, The Departed will not be so similar to Infernal Affairs that it doesn't have its own thing that you can focus on.  Secondly, I feel that the plot doesn't matter that much; it's more about the characters and the interesting setup.

Reading a screenplay first, however, can make for a distracting experience when you finally see the film.  You'll inevitably be too interested in how the movie was put together rather than being invested in any of it.  It's very interesting to read screenplays for movies you've already seen, though, and then rewatch the movie, at which point you can afford to let your mind focus on the nuts and bolts of how it went from the page to the screen, executionally (if that's a word).

The main difference, to sum up, is that a screenplay is designed to be seen as a movie more than read.  However, a movie (Infernal Affairs) was designed to be seen, and the re-make should have the balls to be its own movie enough that it can complement, instead of detracting from, the first movie.  You couldn't say the same thing if a movie didn't have the balls to be different from its own screenplay, as that was the point of the screenplay in the first place.

I hope that made some sense.
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Post by: Astrostic on February 17, 2006, 12:21:55 PM
Here is a Glowing review of the script for There Will Be Blood posted today at Latino Review. Sounds like he's a bit of a biased fanboy, but his excitement is good news to me, nonetheless.

http://latinoreview.com/scriptreview.php?id=20
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Post by: Pubrick on February 17, 2006, 09:29:45 PM
Quote from: Astrostic on February 17, 2006, 12:21:55 PM
Here is a Glowing review of the script for There Will Be Blood posted today at Latino Review. Sounds like he's a bit of a biased fanboy, but his excitement is good news to me, nonetheless.

http://latinoreview.com/scriptreview.php?id=20

he sounds like an idiot to me.. this makes no sense:
Quote from: the douche bag at latino reviewFurther unsolicited advice: novelize this screenplay. To make this film right, you're going to need about 25 million dollars, at least. Build a fan base, win some literary awards - get the funding you need in place before you're backed into a corner and squeezed. With the film in book form, it will be taken seriously.
he pulled a brazoliange (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=7760.msg204614#msg204614). utterly useless.
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Post by: matt35mm on February 18, 2006, 03:30:53 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on February 17, 2006, 09:29:45 PM
Quote from: Astrostic on February 17, 2006, 12:21:55 PM
Here is a Glowing review of the script for There Will Be Blood posted today at Latino Review. Sounds like he's a bit of a biased fanboy, but his excitement is good news to me, nonetheless.

http://latinoreview.com/scriptreview.php?id=20

he sounds like an idiot to me.. this makes no sense:
Quote from: the douche bag at latino reviewFurther unsolicited advice: novelize this screenplay. To make this film right, you're going to need about 25 million dollars, at least. Build a fan base, win some literary awards - get the funding you need in place before you're backed into a corner and squeezed. With the film in book form, it will be taken seriously.
he pulled a brazoliange (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=7760.msg204614#msg204614). utterly useless.
Wow.  That guy... that fucking guy...

Latinos, man.
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Post by: The Perineum Falcon on February 18, 2006, 11:42:30 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on February 17, 2006, 09:29:45 PM
Quote from: the douche bag at latino reviewFurther unsolicited advice: novelize this screenplay. To make this film right, you're going to need about 25 million dollars, at least. Build a fan base, win some literary awards - get the funding you need in place before you're backed into a corner and squeezed. With the film in book form, it will be taken seriously.
TOOOOTALLY agree.

Polanski should've taken his advice with that "Twist" movie. It would've been better as a book.
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Post by: jigzaw on February 20, 2006, 01:51:11 PM
Quote from: Slightly Green on February 18, 2006, 11:42:30 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on February 17, 2006, 09:29:45 PM
Quote from: the douche bag at latino reviewFurther unsolicited advice: novelize this screenplay. To make this film right, you're going to need about 25 million dollars, at least. Build a fan base, win some literary awards - get the funding you need in place before you're backed into a corner and squeezed. With the film in book form, it will be taken seriously.
TOOOOTALLY agree.

Polanski should've taken his advice with that "Twist" movie. It would've been better as a book.

You're making a joke, right?  I think so, but sometimes it's hard to tell in writing.

I think the Latino just doesn't know that the script is already an adaptation of a book.  Novelizing the script is a really dumb idea.
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Post by: Tictacbk on February 20, 2006, 09:57:19 PM
I'm fairly sure that Polanski movie "Oliver Twist" is already a book too.  I can't be too sure, sarcasm doesn't always come across "in writing."


Its this type of thing that brings huge disappointment when theres a new post in this thread.
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Post by: Pozer on February 20, 2006, 11:22:29 PM
Where's the "blows his own brains out" smiley?
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Post by: MacGuffin on February 21, 2006, 01:09:54 AM
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known As on February 20, 2006, 11:22:29 PM
Where's the "blows his own brains out" smiley?

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Post by: Pubrick on February 21, 2006, 01:18:32 AM
i weep for humanity.
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Post by: The Perineum Falcon on February 21, 2006, 08:51:53 AM
Quote from: Tictacbk on February 20, 2006, 09:57:19 PM
I'm fairly sure that Polanski movie "Oliver Twist" is already a book too.  I can't be too sure, sarcasm doesn't always come across "in writing."


Its this type of thing that brings huge disappointment when theres a new post in this thread.

You're absolutely right, I can't tell if you really think I'm this stupid or not. But to clear things up a bit:
Quote from: Slightly Green on December 21, 2005, 01:16:38 PM
And I've since moved on:
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa1204.g.akamai.net%2F7%2F1204%2F1401%2F04080612011%2Fimages.barnesandnoble.com%2Fimages%2F8050000%2F8056081.jpg&hash=84fed7edbf06734f59c8e8639a8e923ec418b683)
:roll:
Given your argument on the clarity of sarcasm (or lack of), and given the context of the complaints, and the fact that just about EVERYONE has heard of Dickens and Oliver Twist, but let's not forget:
Quote from: Brazoliange on October 10, 2005, 03:25:15 AM
I thought this was really well-done, if a bit long. Polanski did a great job establishing the time period. It's a pretty predictable Hollywood story though.
sarcasm should've been fairly clear.

Come on, guys.... Come on.
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Post by: Tictacbk on February 21, 2006, 11:52:57 AM
Yea...i was being sarcastic.  I would never think you were that dumb, nor am i that dumb.  In fact, if you scroll down from that brazoliange quote you would see that i reply to that in a similar way.  Apparently sarcasm really is confusing "in writing."  I'll go back to my hole now.
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Post by: The Perineum Falcon on February 21, 2006, 12:57:24 PM
Quote from: Tictacbk on February 21, 2006, 11:52:57 AM
Yea...i was being sarcastic.  I would never think you were that dumb, nor am i that dumb.  In fact, if you scroll down from that brazoliange quote you would see that i reply to that in a similar way.  Apparently sarcasm really is confusing "in writing."  I'll go back to my hole now.
Well... *ahem*

:doh:

I think we have a new Marquee message:

"Xixax.com

We don't get sarcasm."
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Post by: w/o horse on March 01, 2006, 10:29:45 AM
Quote from: picolas on February 08, 2006, 12:34:46 AM
http://movies.hsx.com/servlet/SecurityDetail?symbol=TWBLD

trading begins on Friday.

I'm semi-addicted to this fucking place now.  I check it with my e-mail, but spend longer reading the stocks.
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Post by: bluejaytwist on March 17, 2006, 04:19:04 PM
apologies for getting the thread back on topic
but there is some potentially interesting film information living on our site

www.cigarettesandredvines.com

kay?

cjw
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Post by: Fernando on March 17, 2006, 04:40:20 PM
Quote from: @ c&v cjw wrote
Hey folks, Harry here!

hahaha priceless, thanks for the update.

I'm excited about the story description of the flim, it's in the potential spoiler section of the update.
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Post by: Brazoliange on March 22, 2006, 04:51:06 AM
one day I hope someone can realize that I did know it was a book and was merely using Hollywood story in today's context
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Post by: Pozer on March 22, 2006, 12:45:08 PM
Quote from: Fernando on March 17, 2006, 04:40:20 PM
(use)less, thanks for the update.
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Post by: sickfins on May 26, 2006, 11:03:14 PM
paul passed me this link
http://www.littlebostonnews.com/

production diary/pictures in the style of dead air space

rejoice
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Post by: matt35mm on May 26, 2006, 11:11:18 PM
Quote from: sickfins on May 26, 2006, 11:03:14 PM
paul passed me this link
http://www.littlebostonnews.com/

production diary/pictures in the style of dead air space

rejoice
Hooray!  That is very cool.
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Post by: Ghostboy on May 27, 2006, 12:19:40 AM
That's awesome that Jack Fisk is designing it.
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Post by: modage on May 27, 2006, 09:20:58 AM
how amazingly considerate of paul.  AWESOME.
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Post by: Pubrick on May 27, 2006, 09:24:37 AM
Quote from: modage on May 27, 2006, 09:20:58 AM
how amazingly considerate of paul.  AWESOME.
totally.

if the rate of awesome updates keeps up, we may well reach the point where it's not ridiculous to use the title "sir" all the time, they've earned it, thanks sir fins! finally a non-ironic use! huzzah!
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Post by: modage on May 27, 2006, 09:26:24 AM
oh yeah, that was the other thing i was going to say. lets hope the updates stay regular after filming starts...
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Post by: Pozer on May 27, 2006, 12:40:25 PM
You know how you wake up, pour you r coffee and then search for the smallest increment of inspiration to get your own ideas rolling... done and done this morning. 
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Post by: FrunLg on May 27, 2006, 07:33:03 PM
Is that in Texas? Marfa?
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Post by: polkablues on May 29, 2006, 05:25:55 PM
Scene 127A sounds kinda Days of Heaven-ish.

Nice cows, too.  I fully approve of the cow selection.
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Post by: modage on June 05, 2006, 09:26:20 PM
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23515

QUINT: Are you going to have a part in THERE WILL BE BLOOD?
JOHN C. REILLY: I don't know. We're still talking about it. I don't know. We'll see. It might be all faces you haven't seen before in a Paul Anderson movie, actually, starting with Daniel (Day Lewis).
QUINT: I don't know how much I'd like that... I'll feel... I don't know, alone, without any of the regulars coming in. It's like watching a Coen Bros film without someone like Buscemi popping up.
JOHN C. REILLY: Alone? (laughs) You'll be in good hands with Daniel Day Lewis, trust me.
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Post by: tpfkabi on June 05, 2006, 11:08:35 PM
i live in texas.

realistically - is there any way i could be an extra?

what do you even do?

i would just be content to watch a little bit of filming really. i've never been on a film set.
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Post by: Sal on June 07, 2006, 05:50:16 PM
Quote from: bigideas on June 05, 2006, 11:08:35 PM
i live in texas.

realistically - is there any way i could be an extra?

what do you even do?

i would just be content to watch a little bit of filming really. i've never been on a film set.

Call the production company to find out... paramount vantage - 323-956-2000; scott rudin prods - 323-956-4600
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Post by: tpfkabi on June 07, 2006, 10:14:09 PM
http://www.sanantoniocvb.com/film/crewcalls.asp

my friend came across this. i live in east texas and this is far west texas (i think it may be over 400 miles away), but maybe i can get someone to go with me. i've already sent an e-mail.
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Post by: Find Your Magali on June 22, 2006, 10:45:08 PM
That sleeping goat on June 16 is adorable!
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: tpfkabi on June 22, 2006, 11:04:54 PM
i e-mailed the address i found online. they replied the next day or so and said they weren't working on the film because of health issues or something. then they gave me another address and two attempts to it have yet to be returned.

is anyone else here trying to be involved with the movie in any way?
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Post by: Fernando on June 23, 2006, 09:12:10 AM
A post from some guy at imdb, could be real.

Quote from: from someone at imdb 6 days ago
I have been playing the part of an Oil worker for the last 5 days of filming. It is 105 degrees with no shade. We stand in the direct sun for sometime 4 hours at a time between breaks. We arrive at the location in Winter, so we are wearing long sleeved shirts, fully buttoned, with wool coats, also fully buttoned, hats and gloves. If that weren,t enough, the makeup consists of oil sprayed on us and lots of dirt dusted on us. There are wind machines to kick up as much dust as possible, and believe me when I say there is a lot of it. Up to five people a day literally pass out. There are five weeks left to go. I'm determined to stick it out to the end even though we are putting in 10 to 13 hour days. On a good note, every one of the cast and crew are totally perfessional and great to work with. I have never heard one complaint from them, and they are actually performing all the physical work. We just stand around between shots. All in all it is a wonderfull experience. I'm not sure I'd do it again, but quitting is not an option. I just wanted to let you all know what it is like for the drilling portion of the movie.

I wonder if PTA is shooting that (if true) or if it's a second unit.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: modage on June 23, 2006, 11:36:33 PM
According to the new issue of Interview Magazine (with Kate Bosworth on the cover), Paul Dano (L.I.E., the upcoming Little Miss Sunshine) will have a role in "Boogie Nights director Paul Thomas Anderson's next movie."
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Post by: MacGuffin on August 02, 2006, 12:15:33 AM
Dano draws 'Blood' role for Anderson
Source: Hollywood Reporter

NEW YORK -- Paul Dano will star opposite Daniel Day-Lewis in Paul Thomas Anderson's drama "There Will Be Blood."

In the turn-of-the-century period piece, which Anderson is shrouding in secrecy, the "Little Miss Sunshine" actor will play a gifted, charismatic young preacher who captivates churchgoers. Day-Lewis portrays a tycoon who strikes it rich after gaining oil rights to a family's ranch, turning the small town where Dano's character preaches into a boomtown. The film is loosely based on Upton Sinclair's 1927 novel "Oil!"

It's been a busy time for Dano. His Sundance Film Festival hit "Sunshine" raked in an estimated $51,000 per screen in limited release during the weekend. In addition to "Blood," his upcoming projects include Spike Jonze's adaptation of Maurice Sendak's classic children's novel "Where the Wild Things Are" for Warner Bros. Pictures. For the film, Dano will be shot on digital video to portray a monster, with his movements and voice used as the model for a live-action puppet.

Dano also has completed Adam Bhala Lough's "Weapons," an indie drama about a series of teen killings in a suburban town in which he plays a disturbed social outcast who's starved for attention.

"Blood" is filming in Texas and Los Angeles. The project, executive produced by Scott Rudin, is being made through an equal partnership with Paramount Vantage and Miramax Films.

Dano is repped by the Gersh Agency and Industry Entertainment.

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fus.movies1.yimg.com%2Fmovies.yahoo.com%2Fimages%2Fhv%2Fphoto%2Fmovie_pix%2Ftwentieth_century_fox%2Fthe_girl_next_door%2Fpaul_franklin_dano%2Fgirlpre2.jpg&hash=2cdbe16d3c213408c60df7961a1496029d676220)
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Post by: RegularKarate on August 02, 2006, 11:54:56 AM
Mild to Medium Spoilers

Quote from: Hollywood Reporter on August 02, 2006, 12:15:33 AM
The film is loosely based on Upton Sinclair's 1927 novel "Oil!"

Very loosely, btw... I don't know how many people here have read both the book and the screenplay, but it's like he adapted the first few chapters of the book then decided he wanted to go in a completely different direction from that point.
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Post by: Pozer on August 02, 2006, 12:34:12 PM
damn, wish i had an oil leak.  how are you guys getting your hands greasy?
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Post by: jigzaw on August 02, 2006, 08:47:03 PM
Seriously, where the hell do you get the script?
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Post by: Astrostic on August 03, 2006, 12:13:22 PM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.timeinc.net%2Fpeople%2Fi%2F2006%2Fstartracks%2F060814%2Fdaniel_day_lewis.jpg&hash=c1a96dadcd4ec5401a21c8e89f1ec4d6f8517e32)

I would have never known it was him if someone didn't tell me
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on August 03, 2006, 12:35:45 PM
I'm not so sure it is him.
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Post by: Pozer on August 03, 2006, 01:35:38 PM
'taint
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Post by: polkablues on August 03, 2006, 03:16:12 PM
Yeah, that doesn't look like Paul Dano at all.
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Post by: Astrostic on August 04, 2006, 01:12:07 AM
according to this:

http://people.aol.com/people/gallery/0,26335,1221772_6,00.html

that is daniel day-lewis
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Post by: modage on August 04, 2006, 10:58:22 AM
yes, he looks INSANE.  i would've never known it was him either.  (its crazy it took so long for the Paul Dano news to break).
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Post by: Fernando on August 04, 2006, 12:57:59 PM
As pointed out on c&v's the first leaked pic of DDL is very similar to the first pic of Sandler as Barry.

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cigarettesandredvines.com%2Fimages%2Fpdl%2Fsandler.jpg&hash=6ecc17758995eb98a050f9158420c94ad08115e1)
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.timeinc.net%2Fpeople%2Fi%2F2006%2Fstartracks%2F060814%2Fdaniel_day_lewis.jpg&hash=c1a96dadcd4ec5401a21c8e89f1ec4d6f8517e32)
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Post by: SiliasRuby on August 04, 2006, 09:54:51 PM
That's Freaky how similar they are.
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Post by: Ultrahip on August 05, 2006, 05:09:28 PM
It's also freaky how much Day-Lewis looks like Hitler.
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Post by: matt35mm on August 06, 2006, 12:19:47 AM
Quote from: Ultrahip on August 05, 2006, 05:09:28 PM
It's also freaky how much Day-Lewis looks like Hitler.
You don't seem to know quite what Hitler looked like...
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Post by: cron on August 06, 2006, 10:32:03 PM
a 'stached Hitman, i'd say.
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Post by: MacGuffin on August 08, 2006, 12:01:09 PM
Quote from: matt35mm on August 06, 2006, 12:19:47 AM
Quote from: Ultrahip on August 05, 2006, 05:09:28 PM
It's also freaky how much Day-Lewis looks like Hitler.
You don't seem to know quite what Hitler looked like...

For reference:

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flaughingsquid.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fkitler.jpg&hash=c6327491b63589288d982d79cf659724d48841c2)
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Post by: I Love a Magician on August 08, 2006, 06:26:18 PM
that is a cat

edit: hitler was not a cat

edit edit: also that cat appears to have a "part" in the middle and we all know that hitler didn't part his hair in this manner

edit edit edit: here is photographic proof that hitler was not a cat:

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fhistory%2Fhistoric_figures%2Fimages%2Fhitler_adolf.jpg&hash=82696dffbe83f8ddc5289b1d7144b0a0e36b9895)

notice that he is a human being with human features and very much not a cat

edit edit edit edit: a piece of hitler trivia: he was a nazi (also he painted pictures and wasn't nearly as bad as people make it seem)
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Post by: matt35mm on August 08, 2006, 09:30:57 PM
Hitler was also a vegetarian, which he abruptly became following the suicide of his neice (whom he was rumored to have fancied).  Albert Einstein was also a vegetarian, and a Jew.  Hitler hated Jews (actually, he wanted to have them all killed or at least out of areas governed by the Third Riech, if you can believe that--some don't).  But if Hitler and Einstein had dinner, they would for sure not have meat.

Lots of prominent Americans (including Lindbergh) around the time that There Will Be Blood takes place in thought that Hitler was a great and visionary leader for having pulled Germany out from its economic depression.  Perhaps the Day-Lewis character would have felt the same way, and even modelled his own facial hair after "der Führer."  Of course, Hitler's American supporters did not yet realize that Hitler wanted to kill all of the Jews.

Hitler himself was Austrian, not German, and his "Aryan" heritage was questionable.

THEREFORE... um... yes.
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Post by: hedwig on August 08, 2006, 11:06:02 PM
also he had a goofy mustache.
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Post by: I Love a Magician on August 08, 2006, 11:18:31 PM
yall are nerds
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Post by: hedwig on August 08, 2006, 11:25:24 PM
Quote from: I Love a Magician on August 08, 2006, 11:18:31 PM
yall are nerds

well i resent that

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.opdebeeck.com%2Fafbeeldingen%2Fkarikatuurschetsen%2Flarge%2Fhitler.jpg&hash=8fdfbbd96eb5de86cd30f1e433180ab9a2087314)
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Post by: polkablues on August 08, 2006, 11:32:36 PM
All this Hitler talk has made you all blind to the obvious:

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi35.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fd179%2Fpolkablues%2Fkojak.jpg&hash=5928e9214070b491e02edb279448f22149b77629)
"Who loves ya, baby?"
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Post by: tpfkabi on August 09, 2006, 06:08:38 PM
does anyone know for certain that the character has a shaved head or is it possible he's wearing a wig?
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Post by: MacGuffin on August 13, 2006, 12:24:45 PM
New on-location photos are up:

http://www.littlebostonnews.com/index2.php
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Post by: edison on August 13, 2006, 01:22:01 PM
its about time, that 4th pic has some interesting shots, can't wait to see how they turn out.
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Post by: matt35mm on August 14, 2006, 12:51:43 PM
I had a dream that this movie was ultimately released under a different title and direct-to-video.  Now that's a nerdy dream.
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Post by: MacGuffin on August 14, 2006, 01:00:29 PM
Quote from: matt35mm on August 14, 2006, 12:51:43 PM
I had a dream that this movie was ultimately released under a different title...

Mein Kampf?
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Post by: Derek on August 14, 2006, 01:39:57 PM
Quote from: modage on August 14, 2006, 09:20:03 AM
another pic of ddl: http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/daylewis1.jpg


That's our protaganist?

Ouch.
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Post by: RegularKarate on August 14, 2006, 01:42:43 PM
Quote from: Derek on August 14, 2006, 01:39:57 PM
That's our protaganist?

Ouch.

That's your reaction?

Ouch.
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Post by: Derek on August 14, 2006, 01:53:11 PM
Well, a more tongue in cheek reaction than anything. Not knowing a lot about the production, it's difficult to imagine the movie with a main character who looks like that. I wonder how far DDL will take the Texas accent?
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Post by: matt35mm on August 14, 2006, 02:29:48 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on August 14, 2006, 01:00:29 PM
Quote from: matt35mm on August 14, 2006, 12:51:43 PM
I had a dream that this movie was ultimately released under a different title...

Mein Kampf?
Is that a noodle dish or something?  Why would it be named that?
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Post by: The Perineum Falcon on August 14, 2006, 02:52:20 PM
Quote from: matt35mm on August 14, 2006, 02:29:48 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on August 14, 2006, 01:00:29 PM
Quote from: matt35mm on August 14, 2006, 12:51:43 PM
I had a dream that this movie was ultimately released under a different title...

Mein Kampf?
Is that a noodle dish or something?  Why would it be named that?
To review:

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.timeinc.net%2Fpeople%2Fi%2F2006%2Fstartracks%2F060814%2Fdaniel_day_lewis.jpg&hash=c1a96dadcd4ec5401a21c8e89f1ec4d6f8517e32)
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flaughingsquid.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fkitler.jpg&hash=c6327491b63589288d982d79cf659724d48841c2)
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FP%2F3762804095.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg&hash=c601a71047db45e0593c38930826abf67242a2a4)
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Post by: RegularKarate on August 14, 2006, 03:02:31 PM
Who's Udoli Sitlers Diein Rampi ?
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Post by: matt35mm on August 14, 2006, 03:04:19 PM
Quote from: Slightly Green on August 14, 2006, 02:52:20 PM
Quote from: matt35mm on August 14, 2006, 02:29:48 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on August 14, 2006, 01:00:29 PM
Quote from: matt35mm on August 14, 2006, 12:51:43 PM
I had a dream that this movie was ultimately released under a different title...

Mein Kampf?
Is that a noodle dish or something?  Why would it be named that?
To review:

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.timeinc.net%2Fpeople%2Fi%2F2006%2Fstartracks%2F060814%2Fdaniel_day_lewis.jpg&hash=c1a96dadcd4ec5401a21c8e89f1ec4d6f8517e32)
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flaughingsquid.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fkitler.jpg&hash=c6327491b63589288d982d79cf659724d48841c2)
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FP%2F3762804095.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg&hash=c601a71047db45e0593c38930826abf67242a2a4)
This makes no sense.  First off, okay, I recognize that the cat is supposed to be a Hitler look-a-like or something (okay, only because the picture's link is called "kitler.jpg"--see?  I can figure things out).  But I don't see what that has to do with the bald guy at the top, especially since the new picture linked at the top of this page shows that his mustache is actually not at all like the cat's...

And I definitely don't see what any of this has to do with what some guy named Werner Maser wrote in what looks like the Medieval Ages.
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Post by: Ravi on August 14, 2006, 03:09:10 PM
Daniel Day Lewis is a medieval Kitler noodle dish.
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Post by: polkablues on August 14, 2006, 05:17:13 PM
I thought "Mein Kampf" was really well-done, if a bit long. Hitler did a great job establishing the time period. It's a pretty predictable Hollywood story though.
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Post by: edison on August 14, 2006, 05:59:52 PM
Here is the pic since the link didn't work:

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Post by: children with angels on August 15, 2006, 11:49:38 AM
For all you people who got a kick out of the kitler, I love that this site exists:

http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/

Jesus, look how starved we are for PTA conversation even with a new film being shot.

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Post by: sickfins on August 15, 2006, 06:17:21 PM
if you're wondering why ddl looks so...weird in those pictures, this might clear things up (http://www.cigarettesandredvines.com/main.php?id=N01) for you
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Post by: Sal on August 15, 2006, 07:03:21 PM
goddamn, im speechless.
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Post by: Pubrick on August 15, 2006, 07:14:09 PM
it was worth being misinformed for the kitlers.
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Post by: RegularKarate on August 15, 2006, 07:31:53 PM
Here's the REAL picture!

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Post by: polkablues on August 15, 2006, 07:32:21 PM
Revelation number 2 is that there is no Vincent Froio, and it's all just another layer of Daniel Day Lewis' Method.

Also, because history should fun as well as informative, here's my Kitler Wall of Fame.

Best Kitler:
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Most Adorable Kitler:
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Best "Kitler in the Bunker" Impression:
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Kitler Most Likely To Be Mistaken For Chupacabra:
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Post by: MacGuffin on August 15, 2006, 07:48:14 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate on August 15, 2006, 07:31:53 PM
Here's the REAL picture!

It's freaky how much he looks like Trotsky.
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Post by: Ravi on August 15, 2006, 11:20:54 PM
Quote from: sickfins on August 15, 2006, 06:17:21 PM
if you're wondering why ddl looks so...weird in those pictures, this might clear things up (http://www.cigarettesandredvines.com/main.php?id=N01) for you

And Mac didn't post it first  :shock:

Vincent Froio
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Trotsky
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Post by: RegularKarate on August 16, 2006, 12:13:11 AM
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Post by: MacGuffin on August 16, 2006, 01:02:29 AM
Quote from: Ravi on August 15, 2006, 11:20:54 PMAnd Mac didn't post it first  :shock:

The dude emailed c&rv; not me.
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Post by: Find Your Magali on August 16, 2006, 10:39:19 PM
This is all very entertaining, but will someone please tell me WHERE THE FUCK RINGO IS?
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Post by: Derek on August 18, 2006, 03:01:03 PM
So, is Vincent Froio part of the cast? Or is this a photo from a different movie set?
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Post by: sickfins on August 18, 2006, 05:30:43 PM
vincent said he has a small role in the film but was honoured that everyone (sort of) thought he was ddl.
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Post by: Derek on August 23, 2006, 10:26:12 AM
Looks like this will be the first PTA film where he hasn't cast actors he had previously worked with.
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Post by: JG on August 23, 2006, 01:09:35 PM
EDIT:  I'll leave the snide comments to P and Hedwig (mine was lacking in witticism anyway)
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Post by: RegularKarate on August 23, 2006, 01:36:25 PM
Quote from: Derek on August 23, 2006, 10:26:12 AM
Looks like this will be the first PTA film where he hasn't cast actors he had previously worked with.

Well, Paul F Tompkins is in it... evidently, he's been making a joke about how he could ruin it by muttering anachronistic words under his breath while it was shooting.
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Post by: modage on August 26, 2006, 05:06:55 PM
more from the NY Times article...

Mr. Anderson also cast local non-actors as principal characters. The primary relationship in "There Will Be Blood" is between Daniel Day-Lewis's character, Daniel Plainview, and his young son, H. W. After casting calls in both New York and Los Angeles, Ms. Sellar said, Mr. Anderson found the perfect H. W. in Dillon Freasier, a 10-year-old boy from Fort Davis, Tex. "Paul's always been very much into casting real people," Ms. Sellar said. "He really wanted a kid who'd grown up around ranches and horses rather than someone coming in and trying to fake that."

Mr. Anderson also cast locals as the wife and daughters of the farming family that intertwines with Mr. Day-Lewis's character throughout the film. Christine Olejniczak, 48, a visual artist who moved to Marfa six years ago, was cast as Mother Sunday, the wife and mother. When she first heard the films were coming to Marfa, Ms. Olejniczak said, "it didn't really register as a big deal to me."

"Just like, oh, there's going to be a lot of people in town this summer," she continued. "It's funny that it would not only affect my life, but affect it so enormously. It's like I ran away to the circus, but the circus came to town instead. They taught me a trapeze act, and just when I started to get good at it, they left."


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Post by: Pubrick on August 26, 2006, 10:11:37 PM
Quote from: modage on August 26, 2006, 05:06:55 PM
"Paul's always been very much into casting real people," Ms. Sellar said.
he has? that's news to me. i guess if he means real humans as opposed to animatronic or CGI characters, sure. he's not Bresson or anything.

as long as the kid he chose isn't as "real" as dixon was.
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Post by: modage on August 27, 2006, 12:14:27 PM
From here on out, I am only interested in what is real.  You're real. Your room is real. Your friends are real. Real, man, real. You know? Real. You're more important than all the silly machinery. Silly machinery. And you know it! In eleven years its going to be 1984, man. Think about that!
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Post by: cron on August 27, 2006, 04:36:32 PM
all of you shouldn't even read this thread, just this message, cos it's important. this thread shouldn't exist.  i hope they don't even make a trailer of this. i also hope amazon stops selling the book oil. pta should film and edit this movie in a bunker on his own and kill the actors in post production.
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Post by: I Love a Magician on August 27, 2006, 08:22:58 PM
you just plain freaky
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Post by: Pozer on December 19, 2006, 11:44:53 AM
there will be blood... in 2007

from cigs & reds http://cigarettesandredvines.com/main.php?id=N01

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

2006, no movie.

Only means one thing; we will have a movie for you all in 2007.

Wanted to wish a happy chirstmas, merry new year to everyone.
We are working on the film, slowly but surely getting there. We're
very happy, very burned out, a little sick of it, more than excited,
anxious to get back home for a break and sending you thanks
for being interested in what we're doing.

It's been a wonderful year, making the film and lots
of other things too. I have much more to say but should
leave it at that.

oh - for anyone not paying attention who needs to
see the greatest stuff there is: there's a preston sturges collection
out./ now. just released. box set. all his movies. must go and get. great gift.

also: is little miss sunshine' the best movie of the year? i think
so. it's out on DVD today, too.

best, paul.
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Post by: modage on December 19, 2006, 12:40:09 PM
i love that man.
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Post by: clerkguy23 on December 19, 2006, 08:47:11 PM
Quotealso: is little miss sunshine' the best movie of the year? i think
so. it's out on DVD today, too.

really?
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Post by: Astrostic on December 20, 2006, 12:30:44 AM
So, my friend goes to a New York art school called Cooper Union, which also happens to be the school that David Lynch's son, Austin Lynch, attends.  Apparently Austin Lynch has strangely been MIA for the entire Fall semester, and my friend had wondered if he'd left the school, graduated early, gotten killed, etc.  Well, it turns out, that Austin has been in Los Angeles this semester, working on a "Making-Of" documentary for a film called "There Will Be Blood"  by a filmmaker named "Paul Thomas Anderson."  Small world, eh?
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Post by: gob on December 20, 2006, 04:11:09 AM
Damn nepotism.
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Post by: Chest Rockwell on December 23, 2006, 01:24:37 PM
Quote from: clerkguy23 on December 19, 2006, 08:47:11 PM
Quotealso: is little miss sunshine' the best movie of the year? i think
so. it's out on DVD today, too.

really?
Whatever. He also recommended the highly underrated Preston Sturges.
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Post by: polkablues on December 23, 2006, 01:31:10 PM
Quote from: Chest Rockwell on December 23, 2006, 01:24:37 PM
Whatever. He also recommended the highly underrated Preston Sturges.

Who underrates Preston Sturges?  I was under the impression that his excellence was pretty well agreed upon.
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Post by: Chest Rockwell on December 23, 2006, 10:38:57 PM
Quote from: polkablues on December 23, 2006, 01:31:10 PM
Quote from: Chest Rockwell on December 23, 2006, 01:24:37 PM
Whatever. He also recommended the highly underrated Preston Sturges.

Who underrates Preston Sturges?  I was under the impression that his excellence was pretty well agreed upon.
Perhaps 'underappreciated' is what I was looking for. People don't typically hear much about Preston Sturges, is all I meant.
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Post by: Derek on January 02, 2007, 06:11:37 PM
I can't shake the feeling it'll still be a full year from now before this thing gets a wide release.
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Post by: modage on January 03, 2007, 05:48:29 PM
don't remember if this has been discussed or how reputable the source is (imdb boards) but it would've been news 6 months ago.  apparently Paul Dano was hired to play Eli after another actor...

The original Eli actor was Kel O'Neill (XX/XY). Scuttlebutt on the set this week was that he demanded higher pay and got canned in the ensuing battle of wills.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0469494/board/nest/48204784
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Post by: Pozer on January 04, 2007, 11:17:24 AM
what about the awesomeness of this discussion on imdb?
http://imdb.com/title/tt0469494/board/nest/61060912
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Post by: I Love a Magician on January 04, 2007, 02:48:26 PM
Seems weird that that dude would demand more money.
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Post by: Alexandro on January 13, 2007, 09:44:03 PM
Quote from: pozer on January 04, 2007, 11:17:24 AM
what about the awesomeness of this discussion on imdb?
http://imdb.com/title/tt0469494/board/nest/61060912 (http://imdb.com/title/tt0469494/board/nest/61060912)

imdb discussions have the ability to make me feel both great and totally depressed at the same time.
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Post by: Derek on January 14, 2007, 09:29:55 PM
Quote from: Derek on January 02, 2007, 06:11:37 PM
I can't shake the feeling it'll still be a full year from now before this thing gets a wide release.


Yep.

http://www.slashfilm.com/article.php/20070104ptandersontherewillbeblood
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Post by: modage on January 14, 2007, 09:54:14 PM
that article lists no source and i've never heard of that site before.  so regardless of whether or not it is released in december, i doubt that article has any validity.
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Post by: atticus jones on January 15, 2007, 02:45:42 AM
u stryke me as one of those kats whu gains a false cents of well being amb inpoortense bi doubting the validity of stuph...

non listed sources and not having eard of sumfing shud never destact u fru sum trufe and shit...

ow do you weigh in on

1. jehova jireh

2. my pro vyda

3. puff tiya hiya

next time you strike me i will strike back like the impire o de goot vil hunter en negro

jay suess loves yu mang...an if he disnt den da boo duh may

mow dige mow did



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Post by: Pozer on January 15, 2007, 11:02:52 AM
you ever play mad gab?  i'd want you on my team.   
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Post by: Pubrick on January 15, 2007, 11:36:25 AM
Quote from: pozer on January 15, 2007, 11:02:52 AM
i want you on my team.

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so does everybody else.
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Post by: Ghostboy on January 15, 2007, 04:12:36 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on January 15, 2007, 11:36:25 AM
Quote from: pozer on January 15, 2007, 11:02:52 AM
i want you on my team.

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so does everybody else.

Just when that song was out of my head...
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Post by: modage on January 15, 2007, 05:22:38 PM
Quote from: cigarettes and red vines
monday, january 15th
release date
hullo. we received several e-mails pointing us to the november 2007 release date for there will be blood posted on imdb. we assumed this was random/bs, and when contacted paul's assistant's quote was: 'first i've heard of it' -- i'm certain once there is a official release date to be had, one of our shadowy people will let us know and we will let you know.
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Post by: MacGuffin on January 15, 2007, 05:46:51 PM
From The Los Angeles Times' Sneeks 2007:

There Will Be Blood Writer-director Paul Thomas Anderson uses the oil fields of the American West as the backdrop to a sprawling family epic based around the rise of a prominent oilman (Daniel Day-Lewis). With Paul Dano, Ciaran Hinds and Kevin J. O'Connor. Paramount Vantage, Dec.
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Post by: modage on January 15, 2007, 06:08:31 PM
now thats a source!  :yabbse-grin:
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Post by: Derek on January 15, 2007, 07:56:06 PM
I'll try to be more valid next time.
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Post by: Xx on January 16, 2007, 02:32:21 AM
...
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Post by: Derek on January 21, 2007, 01:51:35 PM
Pic on cigarettes and red vines of the Little Boston set.
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Post by: bluejaytwist on January 21, 2007, 11:29:34 PM
and another added....

vines it up:

love
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Post by: Derek on February 13, 2007, 05:53:12 PM
cigarettes & red vines reporting an Oct. 26 release date
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Post by: Derek on February 22, 2007, 09:58:12 AM
http://www.thestar.com/artsentertainment/article/182438

Speculation There Will Be Blood is going to Cannes.
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Post by: modage on February 22, 2007, 10:45:26 AM
it also says Alexander Payne is the director of I Now Pronounce You Chuck And Larry so i'll take this article with a grain of salt.  but i do think that Blood will probably go to Cannes.
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Post by: modage on April 03, 2007, 07:43:18 PM
HOLY SHIT!

there won't be score.

just like our sister site, fairfax avenue is an april fool's joke-free zone. so with that in mind -- shock and disbelief! i've just been informed by pta's camp that jon brion isn't doing the score for 'there will be blood'. paul thomas anderson has mentioned classical composer krzysztof penderecki as one of his inspirations while writing the film, so it's possible he's using cues that already exist. there is no 'replacement' or another composer writing the score (that i know of).
http://www.fairfax-avenue.com/

this is terrible!  (or is it?)
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Post by: diggler on April 03, 2007, 08:25:33 PM
not necessarily... i was just wondering the other day if a brion-esque "whimsical" score would work for this film. not that thats all brion can do... but still
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Post by: matt35mm on April 03, 2007, 09:22:55 PM
I would really love to see him not use a score at all.  It would be such a departure for him, based on the 4 previous films.  He knows how to use music so well that it would really be something to see how he doesn't use music.

Anyway, that's all speculation, but this isn't: I love PTA, and I'm reminded of that every time I hear a piece of news for this movie!
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Post by: tpfkabi on April 03, 2007, 09:41:38 PM
i guess it makes sense.

PDL only had two pop songs that i can think of (He Needs Me and Lonely Blue Boy). Lonely Blue Boy was barely heard at that. this was a huge departure from the very pop song oriented Magnolia and Boogie Nights.

too, it's a period piece.

i finally got to see the Rollins interview and he mentions Penderecki being used in the Shining.
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Post by: modage on April 03, 2007, 10:13:05 PM
dude.  it has nothing to do with pop songs.  jon brion wrote the music!  the instrumental stuff that goes under the scenes.  and i dont think the magnolia score was whimsical.
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Post by: tpfkabi on April 03, 2007, 10:41:33 PM
the PDL score was more rhythmic than anything.
(oh, i forgot Waikiki earlier).

everything PTA has done so far is very now and everything JB has scored has been very now. for all we know JB might not have been comfortable scoring a period piece.

i don't know though, a soundtrack of JB melodies played on tack piano (or saloon sounding piano) might be pretty cool.
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Post by: The Red Vine on April 03, 2007, 10:43:28 PM
This will be interesting. PTA has something hidden up his sleeve.
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Post by: hedwig on April 03, 2007, 10:55:08 PM
Quote from: bigideas on April 03, 2007, 09:41:38 PM
too, it's a period piece.
too, boogie nights was.

Quote from: RedVines on April 03, 2007, 10:43:28 PM
This will be interesting. PTA has something hidden up his sleeve.
there was blood on his sleeve.
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Post by: tpfkabi on April 04, 2007, 07:42:03 AM
Quote from: Hedwig on April 03, 2007, 10:55:08 PM
Quote from: bigideas on April 03, 2007, 09:41:38 PM
too, it's a period piece.
too, boogie nights was.

ok, fair shot.

a period piece where there was no recorded music at the time* (this is early 1900's, right?)

*i think(?)

in boogie nights are there any songs that are newer than the time period the movie is set in (it's been several years since i watched BN)?
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Post by: Pozer on April 04, 2007, 11:17:25 AM
a trailer has never been more needed than now to squash this nonsense.
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Post by: john on April 04, 2007, 11:40:22 AM
A good piece of music is timeless. I'm not saying that if Jon Brion did the score all on a vocoder, it wouldn't be out of place - but judging by his scores so far, nothing would be very time specific, only mood specific (with the exception of, say, Here We Go and Strings That Tie To You, which are pop songs.

For instance, if they used Clementine's Loop in There Will Be Blood, I'm sure it would fit in perfectly. Anything Jon composed would fit perfectly, really. The reasons his scores to date were successful isn't because they are set in contemporary periods (considering he didn't score Boogie Nights, but Clementine's Loop was in it) but because he's incredibly intuitive to what a filmmaker needs and what lends itself to any particular scene.

So, if I had to speculate, I don't think the reason he's not doing the score has anything to do with him or PTA worrying about not being capable. But either:

A.) Jon's schedule is pretty stacked and he doesn't have the time.

or

B.) Life is short and Penderecki's music is pretty fucking righteous. Why not work with whoever/whatever floats your boat in the little time you do have to do what you want to do?
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Post by: modage on April 04, 2007, 11:45:16 AM
i think its definitely a conscious stylistic choice.  there is no way that brion is too busy for pta.  not as long as he's been working on this movie.  no way, no how.
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Post by: Pubrick on April 04, 2007, 11:51:10 AM
if magnolia was his 2001, and now he's doing penderecki.. that means he's skipping clork (thank god) and possibly barryndon, and going straight to the shin.

if my black maths serves me well, this will be his barryning.
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Post by: sickfins on April 04, 2007, 02:54:57 PM
i can see how it might construed that there won't be a score at all from my update, but i merely meant there won't be a jon brion score.  it's certainly not about jon not having time in his schedule -- he does what he truly wants to do.

there were similar freakouts when dylan tichenor wasn't editing punch-drunk love, or none of the pta regulars were cast in twbb, but fear not, it will be wonderful.

no jb score is either because of:
jon/paul having a falling out
paul already having the music he wants

dollars to donuts, it'll be pre-existing music.
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Post by: modage on April 04, 2007, 03:53:00 PM
how come there was no update on cigsnvines about this?  its the biggest piece of news since....vincent froio
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Post by: JG on April 04, 2007, 05:21:37 PM
doesn't he know penderecki isn't cool anymore? 

anyways, for the first time i'm really excited for this movie.  i want a scoreless PTA movie. 

Quote from: Pubrick on April 04, 2007, 11:51:10 AM
this will be his barryning shyndon.
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Post by: polkablues on April 04, 2007, 05:27:54 PM
Quote from: JG on April 04, 2007, 05:21:37 PM
i want a scoreless PTA movie. 

I just about guarantee you will die unfulfilled.
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Post by: bluejaytwist on April 08, 2007, 02:13:00 AM
Quote from: modage on April 04, 2007, 03:53:00 PM
how come there was no update on cigsnvines about this?  its the biggest piece of news since....vincent froio

pauls assistant mentioned it to us
jeff posted it on fairxxx
i was lazy and didnt
ill put it up next update
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Post by: yorick on April 10, 2007, 03:57:47 PM
Quote from: bigideas on April 04, 2007, 07:42:03 AM
Quote from: Hedwig on April 03, 2007, 10:55:08 PM
Quote from: bigideas on April 03, 2007, 09:41:38 PM
too, it's a period piece.
too, boogie nights was.

ok, fair shot.

a period piece where there was no recorded music at the time* (this is early 1900's, right?)

*i think(?)

in boogie nights are there any songs that are newer than the time period the movie is set in (it's been several years since i watched BN)?

I thought Boogie Nights was scored by Michael Penn, not Jon Brion. Although Jon did write some music, and the Clementine Loop was used. I'm not 100% on this.
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Post by: Pubrick on April 10, 2007, 08:43:48 PM
Quote from: yorick on April 10, 2007, 03:57:47 PM
I thought Boogie Nights was scored by Michael Penn, not Jon Brion. Although Jon did write some music, and the Clementine Loop was used. I'm not 100% on this.

the issue in question was not whether jon brion scored boogie nights, which is well established he did NOT (imdb, cigs and redvines, credits), but rather the rationale behind a complete departure in scoring approach.

ignoring hard eight which can be summarised as clementine's loop, PTA did indeed do pop-heavy soundtracks for boogie and maggie, and then not so much peedy. so all bigideas was pointing out was that the transition might in this case be drastic enough to do away with a composer altogether (though i doubt he will use penderecki instead, too shinny --- unless we have the tone of this movie all wrong) or at least experiment with a new one.

i agree with the reasoning but not the conclusion, because brion can do whatever the hell he wants.

click this link to introduce yourself (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=2.705)
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Post by: yorick on April 15, 2007, 03:48:13 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on April 10, 2007, 08:43:48 PM
the issue in question was not whether jon brion scored boogie nights, which is well established he did NOT (imdb, cigs and redvines, credits), but rather the rationale behind a complete departure in scoring approach.

I agree. Hedwig had responded that Boogie Nights was a "period piece" to bigideas post stating that Brion might not be comfortable scoring a period piece. Hence my post.

Speaking for myself, I don't care who he gets to score it. I'm sure Paul knows what he wants and I'm looking forward to seeing the film--maybe at the NYFF in September, if I'm lucky.
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Post by: tpfkabi on April 15, 2007, 10:34:32 PM
Scoring a period piece in which you lived through (BN is 80's, right?.....if not 70's) is a lot different than scoring a period piece over half a century before you were born.
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Post by: The Red Vine on April 16, 2007, 10:55:21 AM
Quote from: bigideas on April 15, 2007, 10:34:32 PM
Scoring a period piece in which you lived through (BN is 80's, right?.....if not 70's) is a lot different than scoring a period piece over half a century before you were born.

Plus, the Boogie Nights score wasn't huge. The main piece was (I'm assuming) The Big Top (which is still one of the most brilliant things I've ever heard). But the pop 70s/80s songs took up 95% of the soundtrack. I think PTA could be successful not using a score (or any music for that matter) in one of his films. This could be the one.
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Post by: Pubrick on April 16, 2007, 11:15:08 AM
Quote from: RedVines on April 16, 2007, 10:55:21 AM
I think PTA could be successful not using a score (or any music for that matter) in one of his films. This could be the one.
why? for the gimmick? not using a score is like not using dialogue. sure he could make a silent film, but why the fuck would he? with this and JG's similar comment it really strikes me that some of you don't even realise what you're saying.

"hey i bet he could make a movie blindfolded, i'd like to see that!"
"hey what if he made a movie without using the colour blue?? that would be so awesome!"
"geez i wish he'd make a movie without making a movie.. uh.."

i hope he NEVER makes a film without a score.
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Post by: JG on April 16, 2007, 11:41:18 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on April 16, 2007, 11:15:08 AM
Quote from: RedVines on April 16, 2007, 10:55:21 AM
I think PTA could be successful not using a score (or any music for that matter) in one of his films. This could be the one.
why? for the gimmick? not using a score is like not using dialogue. sure he could make a silent film, but why the fuck would he? with this and JG's similar vapid comment it really strikes me that some of you don't even realise what you're saying.

"hey i bet he could make a movie blindfolded, i'd like to see that!"
"hey what if he made a movie without using the colour blue?? that would be so awesome!"
"geez i wish he'd make a movie without making a movie.. uh.."

i hope he NEVER makes a film without a score.

i own up to my post being fanboyish and lacking any insight, but no dialogue and no score are not analogous. to bring up a movie i'm pretty sure you loved, would l'enfant be the same with a score?  this is not say the success of the movie depended upon a score/no score, nor will PTA's, but i think its an important stylistic decision.  to bring up a movie i'm pretty sure you didn't love, i think children of men benefited in a similar way in restricting itself to no score.   

on the other hand, i would say that a silent movie would be strictly a gimmick and probably (?) boring. 

but my post stemmed from the fact that i've been leaning toward the idea of a scoreless movie with my own project, and the fact that PTA might share that sentiment is neat.  again, fanboyish, but i'm pretty sure i know what i'm saying. 
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Post by: matt35mm on April 16, 2007, 12:29:21 PM
Children of Men did have a score.

I don't think not having a score is gimmicky at all.  Ingmar Bergman's movies frequently had no score, or sometimes classical music used diagetically.  L'Enfant is another good example.  It's often an effective choice, and creates a different tone altogether.

I don't particularly think that PTA is actually going scoreless (that's admittedly wild speculation), but the choice of no score is more than just a gimmick.  A good filmmaker should simply pay attention to what works, rather than assuming that all films need this or that, or assuming that a Jon Brion score is what's best for the film.  I think we can trust that PTA is going to make choices that work for the film, as his sensitivity to the form is as sharp a one as there has ever been.
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Post by: The Red Vine on April 16, 2007, 12:33:32 PM
Quote from: matt35mm on April 16, 2007, 12:29:21 PM
Children of Men did have a score.

I don't think not having a score is gimmicky at all.  Ingmar Bergman's movies frequently had no score, or sometimes classical music used diagetically.  L'Enfant is another good example.  It's often an effective choice, and creates a different tone altogether.

I don't particularly think that PTA is actually going scoreless (that's admittedly wild speculation), but the choice of no score is more than just a gimmick.  A good filmmaker should simply pay attention to what works, rather than assuming that all films need this or that, or assuming that a Jon Brion score is what's best for the film.  I think we can trust that PTA is going to make choices that work for the film, as his sensitivity to the form is as sharp a one as there has ever been.

Exactly.
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Post by: JG on April 16, 2007, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: matt35mm on April 16, 2007, 12:29:21 PM
Children of Men did have a score.

i thought that it might, but it was certainly much more refined than most movies of that nature (eg. no triumphant strings at climactic moments).  the movie was mostly scoreless, no? 

i also want to add that the whole score/no score issue is pretty meaningless until we actually see how well the sound design is integrated into the actual film.  everything else is fanboy (word of the day) speculation, which is fun, but its just that.  
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on April 16, 2007, 12:47:33 PM
It's not effective to compare PTA to the Dardennes or the films that Ingmar Bergman made that were bare and had no score at all. Both filmmakers only went scoreless when dealing with projects that were small and had a focus almost as small. By all illustrations of what There Will Be Blood will encompass, it will benefit from a score. When Sam Peckinpah went into The Wild Bunch, he wanted to do a scoreless film but he was convinced out of it. The composer he talked to said a large film of scope and size like his would lose all emotion if he didn't have a score to help move the action. So Peckinpah adopted a score and later admitted it was the right idea.
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Post by: polkablues on April 16, 2007, 04:19:24 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on April 16, 2007, 12:47:33 PM
It's not effective to compare PTA to the Dardennes or the films that Ingmar Bergman made that were bare and had no score at all. Both filmmakers only went scoreless when dealing with projects that were small and had a focus almost as small. By all illustrations of what There Will Be Blood will encompass, it will benefit from a score. When Sam Peckinpah went into The Wild Bunch, he wanted to do a scoreless film but he was convinced out of it. The composer he talked to said a large film of scope and size like his would lose all emotion if he didn't have a score to help move the action. So Peckinpah adopted a score and later admitted it was the right idea.


Exactly.  Not using any score only works when the story is tiny, intimate, and naturalistic.  PTA's stories tend towards the grand, operatic, and stylized.  Not having a score in that context would wrench the audience right out of the film.
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Post by: Pubrick on April 17, 2007, 09:15:46 AM
my argument doesn't even presuppose that this is a grand scale film (which it obviously is), what i want to point out is that anyone who is saying "i want a scoreless film.. somewhere down the line" is just ridiculously (as some of you have admitted) placing hoops for PTA to jump through. who cares if he can make a film without music?

it was ludicrous to make a connection from no brion to no score, and wanting to see if PTA can jump through that hoop is completely arbitrary. next film he might not use Elswit... does that mean he's calling Beebe and going digital?? that'll be the next crazy gimmick you grab onto.
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Post by: Pozer on April 17, 2007, 06:02:59 PM
i foolishly made a connection from no Brion to Ludacris scoring.
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Post by: RegularKarate on April 17, 2007, 09:36:46 PM
So I heard the new Paul Thomas Anderson movie isn't going to have any music.
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Post by: hedwig on April 17, 2007, 09:48:12 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate on April 17, 2007, 09:36:46 PM
So I heard the new Paul Thomas Anderson movie isn't going to have any music.
oh my god seriously? for the first time i am excited about this movie!
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Post by: I Love a Magician on April 18, 2007, 02:39:43 AM
my band is scoring there will be blood and it's all rockabilly
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Post by: MacGuffin on April 18, 2007, 04:11:08 AM
I heard Ratner, because he heard PTA wasn't using score, has decided to make Rush Hour 3 sans any music at all.
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Post by: The Perineum Falcon on April 18, 2007, 09:50:15 AM
I've stopped listening to music completely.
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Post by: I Love a Magician on April 19, 2007, 01:58:01 AM
just heard back from pta and it turns out he's not using our score; he's going scoreless
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Post by: Pubrick on April 19, 2007, 04:55:04 AM
i just called him up to check and he told me he wants to settle the hoopla once and for all:

he's NOT going scoreless.. he's going scorsese.
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Post by: hedwig on April 19, 2007, 06:40:21 AM
so he's only using Gimme Shelter.
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Post by: AntiDumbFrogQuestion on April 19, 2007, 07:01:44 PM
I heard PT Anderson's new Music will be Movie-Less
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Post by: JG on April 19, 2007, 07:13:10 PM
I heard AntiDumbFrogQuestion's new Post is Funny-Less. 
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Post by: AntiDumbFrogQuestion on April 19, 2007, 09:09:58 PM
damn right!...i have no one to entertain here...just holding out for onscreen action from Marfa.  :yabbse-smiley:
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Post by: Pozer on May 01, 2007, 11:47:35 AM
script - read the opening.  a smile from ear to ear.  now it is locked away, key swallowed.. anticipation amazingly increased to its highest level.
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Post by: The Red Vine on May 01, 2007, 01:53:23 PM
I was able to read the entire script from an insider at a production company. I won't spoil any plot details except to say that it is very, very good. Considering some of the dialogue, it could come off as rather stiff in the movie. But with an actor like DDL, it will be fantastic.

The script was an earlier draft but from what I read - the title doesn't lie. 
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Post by: martinthewarrior on May 02, 2007, 12:07:51 AM
I've read it. It's good.
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Post by: MacGuffin on May 02, 2007, 01:42:26 AM
Was there music written into the script?
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on May 02, 2007, 02:05:54 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin on May 02, 2007, 01:42:26 AM
Was there music written into the script?

Yea, in the first few pages, music is referenced.
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Post by: Pozer on May 02, 2007, 10:57:45 AM
in the very first line actually.
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Post by: martinthewarrior on May 02, 2007, 04:06:04 PM
I believe later in the script there is also a refrence to "pedal tones, suspensefull". I believe that is the exact wording.
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Post by: tpfkabi on May 02, 2007, 06:45:54 PM
reading it beforehand doesn't ruin anything?

i read Eternal Sunshine beforehand, but so much time passed that i forgot a good deal of it.
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Post by: modage on May 02, 2007, 07:33:23 PM
Quote from: bigideas on May 02, 2007, 06:45:54 PM
reading it beforehand doesn't ruin anything?
nah he actually marks a great deal of the script with SPOILERS!

saturday, april 30th
post-production stuff

mini bit of semi-interesting news: gotten word that paramount is keeping the cast booked for the last two weeks in may for re-shoots in mexico. don't really know any specifics, but editing was meant to be finished this/last week according to The Team, so i'll try to find out a bit more in the next day or two to elaborate further.
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Post by: Pozer on May 03, 2007, 04:28:54 PM
well i couldnt help it and read the first 30 pages.  but no more now  :roll:  super fans will notice that he still cant spell the word business ha ha.
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Post by: modage on May 23, 2007, 04:31:55 PM
cigs n red vines reports that...
there are strong rumors that there will be blood will premiere at the venice film festival. the article lives here (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117965603.html?categoryId=1061&cs=1)

aaaaand i just looked up flights/hotels to venice.  if they announce that in the lineup in July, i'm going to seriously consider going to Italy for a week.  tell me i'm not the only one? 
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Post by: Pozer on May 23, 2007, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: modage on May 23, 2007, 04:31:55 PM
cigs n red vines reports that...
there are strong rumors that there will be blood will premiere at the venice film festival. the article lives here (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117965603.html?categoryId=1061&cs=1)

aaaaand i just looked up flights/hotels to venice.  if they announce that in the lineup in July, i'm going to seriously consider going to Italy for a week.  tell me i'm not the only one? 
well i was gonna consider it, but then i got this today:

From: The Screening Exchange [mailto:reply-208438@elabs3.com]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2007 2:36 PM
Subject: You're Invited to the New Drama/thriller with Daniel Day-Lewis, There Will Be Blood!

Hey MATTHEW,

Thanks for participating with The Screening Exchange! We'd like to invite you to a screening in your area of this upcoming There Will Be Blood feature film.

Here's all of the information you need to attend this screening:

There Will Be Blood
Tuesday, May 29, 2007 – Showtime: 7:00 PM
AMC Burbank 16
125 E. Palm Ave
Burbank, CA 91502

Please be sure to arrive no later than 6:15 PM, because seating is on a first-come, first-served basis.

This invitation is for you and a guest between the ages of 17 to 56. Unfortunately, we cannot admit anyone to this screening that is outside of this age range.

If you wish to attend this screening, then please
confirm by contacting us via phone or email.

Confirmation Phone #: 866-827-7136
Confirmation E-mail: rsvp1@thescreeningexchange.com

To ensure your RSVP to this screening of There Will Be Blood, please be sure to provide us with the following information when you call or email us:

1. Your name
2. Whether or not you will be bringing a guest
3. Your primary phone number
4. Your gender and your guest's gender
5. Your ethnicity and your guest's ethnicity
6. Your age and your guest's age
7. Your e-mail address
8. Confirmation code: E-37
For a description of There Will Be Blood, as well as its MPAA rating status, please visit www.thescreeningexchange.com. Thank you for participating with The Screening Exchange, and we hope to see you at the movie theater!

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagecache2.allposters.com%2Fimages%2Fpic%2FMMPH%2F255239%7EDaniel-Day-Lewis-Posters.jpg&hash=7e648eebb4cbfc4da79edabc8dbd39cb40c01d28)

No, no, no, i kid!  it was for The Invasion...  so yeah, youre not the only one mods.


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Post by: modage on May 23, 2007, 06:25:31 PM
i was THIS CLOSE to having a heart attack.
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Post by: martinthewarrior on May 23, 2007, 07:42:19 PM
I actually looked up plane tickets to Italy as soon as I read that. Then I opened my bank statement. I went to the Venice fest a couple years ago, but I fear I have become poorer since then.
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Post by: The Red Vine on May 23, 2007, 09:26:22 PM
I work for the Screening Exchange and figured it would be unlikely for them to screen TWBB quite this early. But I'm keeping an eye open for anything in the NYC area.
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Post by: sickfins on June 16, 2007, 02:18:16 AM
the trailer for 'there will be blood' can be viewed here (http://www.cigarettesandredvines.com/main.php?id=N01).

and this isn't an april fool's joke or any shit like that. 
one minute and thirty seconds of the new film for your pleasure.
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Post by: matt35mm on June 16, 2007, 02:24:30 AM
Yeeeaaahhh.  A nice taste without being particularly spoilerful, I felt.
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Post by: Pubrick on June 16, 2007, 02:31:44 AM
Chere Mill Be Blood.

also the song at the end, does that explain the title? "the precious blood of the land"
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Post by: Ghostboy on June 16, 2007, 02:40:17 AM
That's amazing.
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Post by: diggler on June 16, 2007, 03:13:59 AM
wow, what a great trailer

no fluff at all, that was everything a trailer should be. can't wait
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Post by: polkablues on June 16, 2007, 04:32:33 AM
The score is crickets.
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Post by: children with angels on June 16, 2007, 07:18:02 AM
Wow... I can say that that is one of the best trailers I've ever seen without exaggerating. It's like a short film. I really don't see how this film can be anything other than spectacularly good.
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Post by: mogwai on June 16, 2007, 07:24:14 AM
woof, i'm excited.
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Post by: children with angels on June 16, 2007, 07:45:40 AM
After watching it again it just ocurred to me that there are no credit details on this thing - are we even sure it's the trailer? Maybe it's an industry promo or something. Either way, it's amazing. Fuck it, I'm going to watch it again right now...

Edit: Okay, I just read what cigsandvines wrote about Paul sending them it. I guess they'll just add the credits later...
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Post by: 72teeth on June 16, 2007, 07:49:10 AM
 :yabbse-grin:    <im like this, but happier...
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Post by: A Matter Of Chance on June 16, 2007, 08:04:27 AM
I liked that.
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Post by: JG on June 16, 2007, 08:44:11 AM
great great great.   
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Post by: modage on June 16, 2007, 09:32:58 AM
HOLY SHIT.

I never thought this day would come.
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Post by: The Red Vine on June 16, 2007, 09:49:31 AM
This is exciting although I'm not sure if that's the official teaser or what.
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Post by: modage on June 16, 2007, 10:26:51 AM
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? 
PAULS CAMP NOTIFIED CIGSNREDVINES ABOUT THIS AND IT WAS OBVIOUSLY CUT BY PAUL! 

Quote from: Pubrick on June 16, 2007, 02:31:44 AM
also the song at the end, does that explain the title? "the precious blood of the land lamb"
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Post by: JG on June 16, 2007, 11:34:45 AM
haha, great av mod. 
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Post by: MacGuffin on June 16, 2007, 12:01:23 PM
It's like PTA is channeling his inner Malick.
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Post by: children with angels on June 16, 2007, 12:10:03 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on June 16, 2007, 12:01:23 PM
It's like PTA is channeling his inner Malick.

Definitely. That's exactly what I thought after I had calmed down. It's a very, very intriguing and exciting prospect - it could mean the combining of two very different styles of determindley visceral filmmaking. I think we're going to be seeing something that feels very new and different to anything else with this one.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on June 16, 2007, 12:43:44 PM
Quote from: children with angels on June 16, 2007, 12:10:03 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on June 16, 2007, 12:01:23 PM
It's like PTA is channeling his inner Malick.

Definitely. That's exactly what I thought after I had calmed down. It's a very, very intriguing and exciting prospect - it could mean the combining of two very different styles of determindley visceral filmmaking. I think we're going to be seeing something that feels very new and different to anything else with this one.

It still scares me. PTA's major problem with his last films has been imitation of other filmmakers. Mallick is one of the ultimate visualists there are. Already in that trailer I see shots that Mallick has already done. The hope is what Children says: something new and different. PTA needs to transform the Mallick surface and make his own film. Because I consider him a talented writer before a great director, I think he has a chance. But I admit I'm nervous.

A wonderfully perfect trailer. Should win that dumb Xixax award.
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Post by: children with angels on June 16, 2007, 01:07:40 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on June 16, 2007, 12:43:44 PM
Quote from: children with angels on June 16, 2007, 12:10:03 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on June 16, 2007, 12:01:23 PM
It's like PTA is channeling his inner Malick.

Definitely. That's exactly what I thought after I had calmed down. It's a very, very intriguing and exciting prospect - it could mean the combining of two very different styles of determindley visceral filmmaking. I think we're going to be seeing something that feels very new and different to anything else with this one.

It still scares me. PTA's major problem with his last films has been imitation of other filmmakers. Mallick is one of the ultimate visualists there are. Already in that trailer I see shots that Mallick has already done. The hope is what Children says: something new and different. PTA needs to transform the Mallick surface and make his own film. Because I consider him a talented writer before a great director, I think he has a chance. But I admit I'm nervous.

I'm not worried. He incorporates elements of other directors' styles into an overall formal system that has been developing slowly to the point at which, in PDL, I think became totally unique, with its own rhythm and its own distinctve aesthetic. I agree that the Malick influence appears obvious here, but I have no doubt that it will be used and incorporated into the 'Anderson-esque' approach in such a way that it won't feel like pastiche, but rather the intelligent drawing on, and development of, cinematic history. I anticipate, for example, fascinating clashes between slow, langurous moments taken from Malick and the bursts of kinetic energy that characterise some of the most  exciting moments of his films.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on June 16, 2007, 02:06:47 PM
Quote from: children with angels on June 16, 2007, 01:07:40 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on June 16, 2007, 12:43:44 PM
Quote from: children with angels on June 16, 2007, 12:10:03 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on June 16, 2007, 12:01:23 PM
It's like PTA is channeling his inner Malick.

Definitely. That's exactly what I thought after I had calmed down. It's a very, very intriguing and exciting prospect - it could mean the combining of two very different styles of determindley visceral filmmaking. I think we're going to be seeing something that feels very new and different to anything else with this one.

It still scares me. PTA's major problem with his last films has been imitation of other filmmakers. Mallick is one of the ultimate visualists there are. Already in that trailer I see shots that Mallick has already done. The hope is what Children says: something new and different. PTA needs to transform the Mallick surface and make his own film. Because I consider him a talented writer before a great director, I think he has a chance. But I admit I'm nervous.

I'm not worried. He incorporates elements of other directors' styles into an overall formal system that has been developing slowly to the point at which, in PDL, I think became totally unique, with its own rhythm and its own distinctve aesthetic. I agree that the Malik influence appears obvious here, but I have no doubt that it will be used and incorporated into the 'Anderson-esque' approach in such a way that it won't feel like pastiche, but rather the intelligent drawing on, and development of, cinematic history. I anticipate, for example, fascinating clashes between slow, langurous moments taken from Malik and the bursts of kinetic energy that characterise some of the most  exciting moments of his films.

PDL doesn't stand up well for me anymore because it is all style. You say Anderson became totally unique with it which I won't disagree with, but he sacrificed the best of his writing abilities to get to that point. My philosophy is that style innovation has to go hand in hand with with excellent writing to be meaningful.

I hope There Will Be Blood mixes the best of Anderson's filmic personality with the best of his writing. I hope the characters are meaningful and the portrait honest.

I also hope you'll consider allowing multiple reviews of the film on your website when it's released  :yabbse-grin:
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Post by: children with angels on June 16, 2007, 02:50:48 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on June 16, 2007, 02:06:47 PM
My philosophy is that style innovation has to go hand in hand with with excellent writing to be meaningful.

I hope There Will Be Blood mixes the best of Anderson's filmic personality with the best of his writing. I hope the characters are meaningful and the portrait honest.

I agree with these bits. I thought you were mainly talking about visual style, so that's what I focussed on. PDL does stand up for me, but in a very different way to ,say, Magnolia. PTA is just a first-class writer though, no matter what route he chooses, and he has the ability to change his writing style to meet the approach demanded by the overall movie. The kind of film that There Will be Blood seems to be obviously requires a completely different writing style to PDL, and I have no doubt he'll rise to it. I'm just particularly excited because he now seems to have found such a unique visual voice, and he'll be able to use that to complement this new kind of material. The more I think about it, the more I think that this could be his masterpiece (though whether it will de-throne Magnolia from it's place at the centre of my cinematic life is another question).

Not to build it up too much or anything...
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Post by: Pozer on June 16, 2007, 02:57:30 PM
i love you guys right now.  that was quite tastey.   
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on June 16, 2007, 05:21:15 PM
Quote from: Lucid on June 16, 2007, 04:14:18 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on June 16, 2007, 02:06:47 PM
I hope the characters are meaningful and the portrait honest.

For me, these two things have always been constant factors in P.T.'s films, in addition to spot-on writing that makes him one of the best storytellers we've got out there.  Writer first, director second, like he's said.  He can cite as many directors as he pleases, because in the past those references have served the story above all; they're not just cheap references he throws around for style's sake.

My heart's all a flutter after watching that trailer.

This is all subjective, but my stance on Punch-Drunk Love is that the style around the film overrides the story. It can be considered a good film (which I do consider it), but it can also be seen as a defeat for Anderson who was made better films in his previous two efforts.

See, when people say he was just riding on the coat tails of Altman with Boogie Nights and Magnolia, I don't really buy it. Structurally Magnolia is akin to Short Cuts, but the gliding camera movement was a staple of many filmmakers before Robert Altman ever got a handle of it. There are also many references to other filmmakers in both of those films beside Altman.

But in Punch-Drunk Love the references are obvious and limited to one or two filmmakers. The film is just too much of a lift from another filmmaker to be ultimately rewarding considering Anderson's talent. It is well written and has a good theme and idea at its core base, but that is all stagnated because of the enormous style that surrounds it.

Maybe I'm looking for something PTA isn't. Maybe film references will be as common in his career as it is for Scorsese, but the hope is that if he does that he will always aim high with his stories. Scorsese scrounged his ambitions as quikly as possible and made genre flicks. I don't think PTA will do that and I don't think Magnolia is his peak. The story is exceptional in many ways, but the theme in the story didn't age well for me. With There Will be Blood he will deal with character, history and reality to paint his picture instead of trying to convince an audience that frogs raining down from the sky is meaningful instead of funny. Even if you believe in the frogs, there is at least much more potentional in the subject that houses There Will be Blood.
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Post by: Pozer on June 16, 2007, 05:48:22 PM
i have a feeling this will be your favorite one of his...

i just got back and watched it for a third time.  it was even more extraordinary cause i cranked the speakers.    ive been anticipating DDL's characteristics and what his voice would sound like.  that bit of speech is so dark and both his voice and appearance is quite haunting.  i dig it all around.   
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Post by: Stefen on June 16, 2007, 06:05:56 PM
Quote from: polkablues on June 16, 2007, 04:32:33 AM
The score is crickets.

haha. yeah.
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Post by: tpfkabi on June 16, 2007, 06:43:16 PM
with a new Radiohead album on the horizon and a trailer for the new PTA film it feels like 2002 all over again.
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Post by: JG on June 16, 2007, 06:50:47 PM
is that monologue from the book?  i'm just curious as to how faithful he is going to be. 

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Post by: matt35mm on June 16, 2007, 07:12:33 PM
I do not know if it is from the book or not, but PTA has said that it's a pretty loose adaptation.
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Post by: Ghostboy on June 16, 2007, 07:54:44 PM
It's not from the book.
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Post by: last days of gerry the elephant on June 16, 2007, 08:59:50 PM
 :yabbse-thumbup: :yabbse-thumbup:
Love the darkness of the character.
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Post by: Stefen on June 17, 2007, 12:11:08 PM
Elswit looks to be in top form. As always when he's working with PTA.

This movie is going to bomb badly. Most people will probably find it boring, and the only thing others will find great about it will be the cinematography.

Or maybe he'll ad a dance number.
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Post by: mogwai on June 17, 2007, 01:00:42 PM
i heard that pta will promote the movie himself with the company of a cow on the streets of l.a.

hey, wait a minute...
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Post by: The Red Vine on June 17, 2007, 02:04:20 PM
Quote from: Stefen on June 17, 2007, 12:11:08 PM
This movie is going to bomb badly. Most people will probably find it boring, and the only thing others will find great about it will be the cinematography.

I thought this ever since I read the title and story. I strongly agree with others that it seems he's doing a Malick inspired epic. On that level, I remember many people finding "The New World" very tedious. Even though it's one of my favorite films of the decade.

Can't wait to see the poster so maybe I can snag it for my collection.
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Post by: I Love a Magician on June 17, 2007, 03:52:40 PM
those shots of him in the dark with the shadows and such, are those of him saying the narration? his mouth doesnt seem to be moving to me.
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Post by: 72teeth on June 17, 2007, 04:25:21 PM
he gets asked the question first from someone off screen, then DDL answers...

right?
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Post by: sickfins on June 17, 2007, 07:33:27 PM
Quote from: 72teeth on June 17, 2007, 04:25:21 PM
he gets asked the question first from someone off screen, then DDL answers...

right?

yup!
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Post by: I Love a Magician on June 17, 2007, 07:47:05 PM
maybe i'm retarded but it doesn't seem to me like DDL's mouth moves.
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Post by: The Red Vine on June 17, 2007, 08:45:34 PM
Quote from: I Love a Magician on June 17, 2007, 07:47:05 PM
maybe i'm retarded but it doesn't seem to me like DDL's mouth moves.

It's all voice-over I think.
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Post by: last days of gerry the elephant on June 17, 2007, 09:01:40 PM
Quote from: I Love a Magician on June 17, 2007, 07:47:05 PM
maybe i'm retarded but it doesn't seem to me like DDL's mouth moves.

I don't see how you cannot understand that.

The voice over/audio monologue is from another part of the movie where DDL is actually saying it.
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Post by: I Love a Magician on June 17, 2007, 09:33:44 PM
that's what i thought. my friend was giving me the business because he thought it wasn't.
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Post by: Bethie on June 18, 2007, 01:41:59 AM
said to my friend "just watched the teaser for ptas there will be blood and creamed my pants." i'm about to watch this one hundred times.
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Post by: Pozer on June 18, 2007, 02:24:56 PM
Quote from: overmeunderyou on June 17, 2007, 09:01:40 PM
The voice over/audio monologue is from another part of the movie where DDL is actually saying it.
this is a part of the reason there's such a strong malick comparison.  but it reminds me of the earl VO monologe as well.  PTAisms are all over it.
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Post by: tpfkabi on June 18, 2007, 04:14:27 PM
Quote from: martinthewarrior on June 18, 2007, 12:47:11 AM
Which bodes well for you. It means you were spared a Baptist upbringing:)

i had one and have turned out fine.
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Post by: Sal on June 18, 2007, 08:54:54 PM
Quote from: pozer on June 18, 2007, 02:24:56 PM
Quote from: overmeunderyou on June 17, 2007, 09:01:40 PM
The voice over/audio monologue is from another part of the movie where DDL is actually saying it.
this is a part of the reason there's such a strong malick comparison.  but it reminds me of the earl VO monologe as well.  PTAisms are all over it.

Feels much closer in spirit to Leone's Once Upon a Time in the West than it does to anything Malick did. Malick didn't even do anything resembling a western, so that comparison is retarded.
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Post by: martinthewarrior on June 18, 2007, 09:21:22 PM
I thought it came across in my post that, I too, had a Baptist upbringing. I think I came out ok. Even so, I didn't enjoy the experience. Don't be so uptight, my man.
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Post by: B.C. Long on June 18, 2007, 09:35:47 PM
I don't get the Malick comparisons. Just because of the voice-over/montage approach? Did Malick copyright that or something?
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Post by: tpfkabi on June 18, 2007, 09:53:11 PM
Quote from: martinthewarrior on June 18, 2007, 09:21:22 PM
I thought it came across in my post that, I too, had a Baptist upbringing. I think I came out ok. Even so, I didn't enjoy the experience. Don't be so uptight, my man.

ah, so now that i revealed that you automatically assume that i'm uptight?
why, i never!
:yabbse-grin:
ha, man, i took it with a grain of salt.
unlike the cliche' i actually try to "judge not, less ye be judged."

but back on topic, I thought of Leone, too, but that really had to do with the trains and time period only. PTA's going to have some massive crane shots over train depots before i really think Leone...


and a big bussomed Cardinale-esque hottie....
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Post by: tpfkabi on June 18, 2007, 10:48:09 PM
GT, are you referring to PDL as lifting from Tati or from someone else?

I think Paul mentioned Tati himself (didn't he?), but PDL is not like any Tati films really imo.

Now, Couch was pretty Tati if i remember correctly.
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Post by: Pubrick on June 19, 2007, 06:56:29 AM
Quote from: bigideas on June 18, 2007, 10:48:09 PM
Now, Couch was pretty Tati shit if i remember correctly.

you do.
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Post by: noyes on June 19, 2007, 08:00:38 AM
funny how it works out..
i started watching this trailer and at first didn't instantly get excited for the movie. which got me worried.
after a good 30 seconds, all the PTAisms and the cinematography and his total sense of direction came to the forefront.
and by the end, it made me wish it was out next week.
can't wait.
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Post by: modage on June 19, 2007, 08:11:35 AM
Quote from: noyes on June 19, 2007, 08:00:38 AM
and by the end, it made me wish it was out next week.
next week?  who can wait till then!?  what kind of superfan are you?
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Post by: noyes on June 19, 2007, 08:48:19 AM
alright alright, in two hours. haha.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on June 19, 2007, 02:29:25 PM
Quote from: bigideas on June 18, 2007, 10:48:09 PM
GT, are you referring to PDL as lifting from Tati or from someone else?

I think Paul mentioned Tati himself (didn't he?), but PDL is not like any Tati films really imo.

Now, Couch was pretty Tati if i remember correctly.

PDL wasn't Tati in jokes and set up, but it was Tati in composition. The story and themes were unique, but the film marginalized itself by having his influence everywhere.
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Post by: tpfkabi on June 19, 2007, 04:20:13 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on June 19, 2007, 02:29:25 PM
Quote from: bigideas on June 18, 2007, 10:48:09 PM
GT, are you referring to PDL as lifting from Tati or from someone else?

I think Paul mentioned Tati himself (didn't he?), but PDL is not like any Tati films really imo.

Now, Couch was pretty Tati if i remember correctly.

PDL wasn't Tati in jokes and set up, but it was Tati in composition. The story and themes were unique, but the film marginalized itself by having his influence everywhere.

can you be more specific?
the most Tati thing to me (that i can think of now without seeing PDL in so long) is at the beginning when Barry is alone and he's walking and it's pitch dark and you hear the squeak of his shoes.

the signature Tati thing to me is some kind of shot where the camera is aimed at one structure, unmoving, and Tati and/or other actors create comedy by moving in and out of that space. the main ones i can think of now - in either Hulot or Mon Oncle where you see the house and the camera just observes as he walks by windows, down stairs, and then in Playtime where the camera observes outside the apartments with huge windows.
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Post by: Ghostboy on June 19, 2007, 04:23:29 PM
Yeah, there was a lot more of, say, Shoot The Piano Player than there was Tati.
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Post by: samsong on June 19, 2007, 04:57:04 PM
let's not forget the long goodbye.  and while we're pointing this shit out, i loved the night of the hunter stuff.

i agree with gt about the tati influence on punch-drunk love but i don't feel like it marginalized the film by any means.  the sound of shoes squeaking could be a tati reference but it isn't specific enough; maybe tati was on the mind but it seems more subconscious relative to the deliberateness anderson composes his shots with.  to me, tati is most evident in just about every scene in the warehouse--the cold modernity of industry, monochromatic color schemes vs. the bleeding, saturated colors in hawaii, spatial/physical comedy (ie luis guzman testing demonstrating the plungers for clients in the far background).  also the minimal dialogue. 
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Post by: Stefen on June 20, 2007, 02:10:01 PM
Is there a QT version? I want to make a gif of the shot where the camer races over and then up to watch the oil spring. Pure PTA right there.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on June 20, 2007, 03:46:03 PM
I knew there were other influences to PDL than just Tati. The problem for me is that I hadn't seen those films mentioned so I do need to see them before I can comment. But I still think my argument stands. My referencing Tati is just an example.

My original argument is that compared to Magnolia and Boogie Nights, Punch-Drunk Love has references that override the story. It forms the shape of the story and guides the characters. They don't exist as freely as they do in Boogie Nights and Magnolia. Those films are based closer to drama. Punch-Drunk Love is the film experiment.

I think PDL is good and fine, but its ceiling for its ambition is limited. I think greater heights are to be reached with what Boogie Nights and Magnolia do.
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Post by: tpfkabi on June 20, 2007, 04:18:16 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on June 20, 2007, 03:46:03 PM
I knew there were other influences to PDL than just Tati. The problem for me is that I hadn't seen those films mentioned so I do need to see them before I can comment. But I still think my argument stands. My referencing Tati is just an example.

My original argument is that compared to Magnolia and Boogie Nights, Punch-Drunk Love has references that override the story. It forms the shape of the story and guides the characters. They don't exist as freely as they do in Boogie Nights and Magnolia. Those films are based closer to drama. Punch-Drunk Love is the film experiment.

I think PDL is good and fine, but its ceiling for its ambition is limited. I think greater heights are to be reached with what Boogie Nights and Magnolia do.

i'm def not saying you are wrong, i'm just wanting more specifics like "this scene in PDL references this scene in this Tati film," etc.

PDL's form seems so New Wave to me.
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Post by: killafilm on June 21, 2007, 03:17:30 AM
Not gonna lie, first thing I thought of was Days of Heaven.  Regardless it looks fanfuckingtastic.  Doubt it will be as influenced as say Marie Antoinette. 
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on June 26, 2007, 02:36:03 AM
Quote from: bigideas on June 20, 2007, 04:18:16 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on June 20, 2007, 03:46:03 PM
I knew there were other influences to PDL than just Tati. The problem for me is that I hadn't seen those films mentioned so I do need to see them before I can comment. But I still think my argument stands. My referencing Tati is just an example.

My original argument is that compared to Magnolia and Boogie Nights, Punch-Drunk Love has references that override the story. It forms the shape of the story and guides the characters. They don't exist as freely as they do in Boogie Nights and Magnolia. Those films are based closer to drama. Punch-Drunk Love is the film experiment.

I think PDL is good and fine, but its ceiling for its ambition is limited. I think greater heights are to be reached with what Boogie Nights and Magnolia do.

i'm def not saying you are wrong, i'm just wanting more specifics like "this scene in PDL references this scene in this Tati film," etc.

PDL's form seems so New Wave to me.

it seems french new wave to me, too. I regret lopsiding my comparison to one filmmaker, but to explain...

In Tati, the focus of the character was from afar and focused on his physical handicaps with the world around him. I think a similar touch is applied in Punch-Drunk Love. Some shots are close ups, but most shots are static shots from afar that isolate Barry Egan from everyone else and make his mannerisms and awkwardness the subject of the film's approach.

In some ways, this could be argued as what defined Chaplin as well, but I think there is a difference. The character of Monsieur Hulot has little semblance with a real character. Chaplin's Little Tramp really did. I think Barry Egan is a mixture of the little tramp and Hulot. Someone of Barry Egan's shyness and awakwardness can exist, but it would not be trumped up in such a heightened way. Egan's actions skid on believability a lot of times and frankly cross over into unbelievity.

Also, one has to consider the times both filmmakers existed in. Chaplin's character was considered realistic for its time. Chaplin was applauded for putting real sentiments into a genre that most people considered had absolutely none. When Bernard Shaw was asked why film lacked qualities of realism and deep feelings, he simply said "incompetence". Film has evolved and by the time Tati made the Hulot films, his choice to make Hulot unrealistic was a stylistic choice. As far as Chaplin knew, he was doing the very best one could to do add realism to what could have been a stock figure in a bad comedy.

So when PTA made PDL, he was also making a choice in how to portray Barry Egan. In chaplin's day it would just be assumed the characterization would be one way. By the time Tati came around, choices were available. Tati surrounded the film with a style and filmmaking scheme that is closer to PDL. If Anderson rid the film of its stylistic approach and just focused on the character of Barry Egan, the influence would be more Chaplin.
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Post by: tpfkabi on June 26, 2007, 11:26:54 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on June 26, 2007, 02:36:03 AM
Quote from: bigideas on June 20, 2007, 04:18:16 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on June 20, 2007, 03:46:03 PM
I knew there were other influences to PDL than just Tati. The problem for me is that I hadn't seen those films mentioned so I do need to see them before I can comment. But I still think my argument stands. My referencing Tati is just an example.

My original argument is that compared to Magnolia and Boogie Nights, Punch-Drunk Love has references that override the story. It forms the shape of the story and guides the characters. They don't exist as freely as they do in Boogie Nights and Magnolia. Those films are based closer to drama. Punch-Drunk Love is the film experiment.

I think PDL is good and fine, but its ceiling for its ambition is limited. I think greater heights are to be reached with what Boogie Nights and Magnolia do.

i'm def not saying you are wrong, i'm just wanting more specifics like "this scene in PDL references this scene in this Tati film," etc.

PDL's form seems so New Wave to me.

it seems french new wave to me, too. I regret lopsiding my comparison to one filmmaker, but to explain...

In Tati, the focus of the character was from afar and focused on his physical handicaps with the world around him. I think a similar touch is applied in Punch-Drunk Love. Some shots are close ups, but most shots are static shots from afar that isolate Barry Egan from everyone else and make his mannerisms and awkwardness the subject of the film's approach.

In some ways, this could be argued as what defined Chaplin as well, but I think there is a difference. The character of Monsieur Hulot has little semblance with a real character. Chaplin's Little Tramp really did. I think Barry Egan is a mixture of the little tramp and Hulot. Someone of Barry Egan's shyness and awakwardness can exist, but it would not be trumped up in such a heightened way. Egan's actions skid on believability a lot of times and frankly cross over into unbelievity.

Also, one has to consider the times both filmmakers existed in. Chaplin's character was considered realistic for its time. Chaplin was applauded for putting real sentiments into a genre that most people considered had absolutely none. When Bernard Shaw was asked why film lacked qualities of realism and deep feelings, he simply said "incompetence". Film has evolved and by the time Tati made the Hulot films, his choice to make Hulot unrealistic was a stylistic choice. As far as Chaplin knew, he was doing the very best one could to do add realism to what could have been a stock figure in a bad comedy.

So when PTA made PDL, he was also making a choice in how to portray Barry Egan. In chaplin's day it would just be assumed the characterization would be one way. By the time Tati came around, choices were available. Tati surrounded the film with a style and filmmaking scheme that is closer to PDL. If Anderson rid the film of its stylistic approach and just focused on the character of Barry Egan, the influence would be more Chaplin.

ok. i see where you're coming from. i was thinking more thematically at the time - where every Tati film (that i've seen) deals with a character having trouble adjusting to the rapid world around him, but now that i think about it, Barry experiences this too, just more in the social sense - instead of man vs. technology.

one difference with Tati is the overwhelming sense of sentimentallity (or yearning for days gone by), whereas i don't think that is really present in PDL. if anything Barry is tormented by the past (his sisters, the hammer, the doghouse).
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Post by: tpfkabi on June 27, 2007, 07:44:39 AM
Quote from: flagpolespecial on June 27, 2007, 06:26:03 AM
i think pdl is more a woman is a woman influenced.

i think there's a similiar blue suit.
what else?
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Gold Trumpet on June 27, 2007, 11:54:40 PM
Quote from: bigideas on June 27, 2007, 07:44:39 AM
Quote from: flagpolespecial on June 27, 2007, 06:26:03 AM
i think pdl is more a woman is a woman influenced.

i think there's a similiar blue suit.
what else?

I'm glad this has been mentioned, but I don't think the influence is huge for PDL. A couple shots here and there are ripped off. The camera following Karina at her first strip show behind stage and looking to someone playing music and cutting back was also done in PDL in a beginning scene showing Hoffmann at his business and the camera following a character and moving with the same exact motions.

But I think the movements of the camera in A Woman is A Woman have been found in other PTA films. His camera goes glide like Altman films do, but Altman's do at such a distance. He canvasses the area around the characters as much as he does the characters themselves. It's a bigger high light of his filmmaking than overlapping dialogue or anything.

And PTA doesn't do that. A Woman is a Woman has many gliding moments, but does so to the personal touch that is closer to PTA than I think Altman is. He just got branded by Altman because he continually says he respects Altman and Magnolia has too many links to Short Cuts not to miss but both filmmakers seem very different to me.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: 72teeth on June 28, 2007, 01:04:41 AM
i might just be talking out my ass here, but does anyone get kind of a Popeye feeling during the part where he's bouncing that baby and wearing that goofy hat...
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: The Sheriff on June 28, 2007, 05:10:24 AM
Quote from: 72teeth on June 28, 2007, 01:04:41 AM
i might just be talking out my ass here, but does anyone get kind of a Popeye feeling during the part where he's bouncing that baby and wearing that goofy hat...

no, but you may be a pedophile. you better keep an eye on that
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Post by: mogwai on June 28, 2007, 05:34:25 AM
Quote from: Depraved, Inc. on June 28, 2007, 05:10:24 AM
Quote from: 72teeth on June 28, 2007, 01:04:41 AM
i might just be talking out my ass here, but does anyone get kind of a Popeye feeling during the part where he's bouncing that baby and wearing that goofy hat...

no, but you may be a pedophile. you better keep an eye on that

amazing, you're officially Demented.
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Post by: children with angels on June 28, 2007, 10:33:27 AM
Quote from: mogwai on June 28, 2007, 05:34:25 AM
Quote from: Depraved, Inc. on June 28, 2007, 05:10:24 AM
Quote from: 72teeth on June 28, 2007, 01:04:41 AM
i might just be talking out my ass here, but does anyone get kind of a Popeye feeling during the part where he's bouncing that baby and wearing that goofy hat...

no, but you may be a pedophile. you better keep an eye on that

amazing, you're officially Demented.

Been thinking the same thing. Cecil not around anymore?
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: tpfkabi on June 28, 2007, 11:18:37 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on June 27, 2007, 11:54:40 PM
Quote from: bigideas on June 27, 2007, 07:44:39 AM
Quote from: flagpolespecial on June 27, 2007, 06:26:03 AM
i think pdl is more a woman is a woman influenced.

i think there's a similiar blue suit.
what else?

I'm glad this has been mentioned, but I don't think the influence is huge for PDL. A couple shots here and there are ripped off. The camera following Karina at her first strip show behind stage and looking to someone playing music and cutting back was also done in PDL in a beginning scene showing Hoffmann at his business and the camera following a character and moving with the same exact motions.

But I think the movements of the camera in A Woman is A Woman have been found in other PTA films. His camera goes glide like Altman films do, but Altman's do at such a distance. He canvasses the area around the characters as much as he does the characters themselves. It's a bigger high light of his filmmaking than overlapping dialogue or anything.

And PTA doesn't do that. A Woman is a Woman has many gliding moments, but does so to the personal touch that is closer to PTA than I think Altman is. He just got branded by Altman because he continually says he respects Altman and Magnolia has too many links to Short Cuts not to miss but both filmmakers seem very different to me.

has PTA ever mentioned French New Wave or any of it's directors?
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: martinthewarrior on June 28, 2007, 02:52:21 PM
He mentions Truffaut in the PDL commentary. "Shoot the piano player" to be exact. I always saw him as a 70's American cinema guy. PDL was th first time I noticed much new wave stuff. I guess Hard Eight had a bit of that.
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Post by: modage on June 28, 2007, 03:01:55 PM
with Darjeeling and No Country taking the Opening and Centerpiece slots at the New York Film Festival that would probably mean if it does not get the Closing Night slot it will not play the fest.   Boogie played there and PDL was the Centerpiece film i believe so i doubt that it would take one of the regular slots.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: tpfkabi on June 28, 2007, 04:18:16 PM
Quote from: martinthewarrior on June 28, 2007, 02:52:21 PM
PDL commentary.

:?:
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: mogwai on June 28, 2007, 05:03:52 PM
Quote from: bigideas on June 28, 2007, 04:18:16 PM
Quote from: martinthewarrior on June 28, 2007, 02:52:21 PM
PDL commentary.

:?:

it's an easter egg on the saudi arabia edition.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: tpfkabi on June 28, 2007, 06:50:14 PM
Quote from: mogwai on June 28, 2007, 05:03:52 PM
Quote from: bigideas on June 28, 2007, 04:18:16 PM
Quote from: martinthewarrior on June 28, 2007, 02:52:21 PM
PDL commentary.

:?:

it's an easter egg on the saudi arabia edition.

ah, he must have meant Hard Eight.......now that i think of it he compares the match in the pants to the dead mother in Shoot i believe...
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: I Don't Believe in Beatles on June 28, 2007, 07:52:34 PM
He talks about Shoot the Piano Player in one of the Boogie Nights interviews:


5.  Shoot the Piano Player (Francois Truffaut) (1960)
"I always loved gangster movies, but if you've seen a hundred of them you've seen two hundred of them, right? But in this, Truffaut took the American gangster movies that I knew and loved as a kid  all that Humphrey Bogart stuff - and turned it on its ear. It was shot in Cinemascope, which was pretty much reserved for big budget Hollywood movies. And it also re-invented the gangster genre, and it took it somewhere brand new and postmodern: our hero could be a little skinnier and not so tough. One of my favorite things in this film is, this guy's driving the car and he's saying, 'may my grandmother drop dead if I'm telling a lie right now,' and it cuts to a shot of his grandmother falling down on the floor dead! Then it cuts back to the scene and that's all there is. That said to me, if one can do that, one can do a million other insane things. This film also taught me how I wanted to dress - I wanted to wear those suits! I wanted to be in that movie! The people in the film weren't typically handsome, but they were so sexy and cool."

http://www.cigarettesandredvines.com/article.php?id=B26
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pozer on July 02, 2007, 05:29:23 PM
i can't believe it's already been a year since i visited the set:

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg175.imageshack.us%2Fimg175%2F4433%2Fpozer1sy9.jpg&hash=951e668d5ac300e7599bdbbf1f2629fe5cb0203f)
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg294.imageshack.us%2Fimg294%2F4683%2Fpozer2iq9.jpg&hash=4582c487458fdd37900e73e2428310d3f718aff8)
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pubrick on July 02, 2007, 05:39:56 PM
hahah, stuff like this should happen more often.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on July 02, 2007, 11:59:37 PM
Shit, I used to have pictures I took of PTA's house, but they gone!
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: The Sheriff on July 03, 2007, 12:15:49 AM
Quote from: Stefen on July 02, 2007, 11:59:37 PM
pictures I took of PTA's house

:ponder: of the outside? or... did he LET YOU IN at least...
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pubrick on July 03, 2007, 12:19:37 AM
it's still here man. (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=6218.0)
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on July 03, 2007, 12:48:26 AM
Ah, memories.

He should have used his house in his new flick. Fit right in. Fucking visionary.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pozer on July 03, 2007, 12:23:43 PM
Quote from: sickfins on June 17, 2007, 07:33:27 PM
Quote from: 72teeth on June 17, 2007, 04:25:21 PM
he gets asked the question first from someone off screen, then DDL answers...

right?

yup!
came upon this part in the script.  was bored and skimmed thru looking for those lines of dialogue.  that voice over is ALL DDL.  he asks and answers.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: I Love a Magician on July 03, 2007, 01:24:13 PM
is he schizo or somethin cuz thats weird
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pozer on July 03, 2007, 03:16:17 PM
actually he asks the questions and someone else answers (obviously cut out of trailer).  then he goes on with explaining why he himself is angry/envious:  "I have a competition in me..."   
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Post by: polkablues on July 03, 2007, 05:26:11 PM
Quote from: I Love a Magician on July 03, 2007, 01:24:13 PM
is he schizo or somethin cuz thats weird

Donald Rumsfeld used to do it all the time.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pubrick on July 03, 2007, 09:02:52 PM
Quote from: polkablues on July 03, 2007, 05:26:11 PM
Quote from: I Love a Magician on July 03, 2007, 01:24:13 PM
is he schizo or somethin cuz thats weird

Donald Rumsfeld used to do it all the time.

John McCain does it too (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1zCGADq1uk)
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: JG on July 03, 2007, 11:24:30 PM
its worse when he ends his sentences with "my friends." 
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pozer on July 20, 2007, 02:56:54 PM
a script review:

http://www.theoscarigloo.com/2007/articles/therewillbeblood.html  (http://www.theoscarigloo.com/2007/articles/therewillbeblood.html)
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: hedwig on July 22, 2007, 01:16:34 AM
the oscar potential section at the end of the review is really dumb.

Quote from: script review pozer linkedBest Original Score- Jon Brion

:?
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pubrick on July 22, 2007, 04:11:25 AM
hahha. this script is only ever reviewed by retards.

the first idiot didn't know it was based on a novel. and suddenly a new contender emerges.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on July 26, 2007, 12:46:54 PM
Quote from: modage on May 23, 2007, 04:31:55 PM
cigs n red vines reports that...
there are strong rumors that there will be blood will premiere at the venice film festival. the article lives here (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117965603.html?categoryId=1061&cs=1)

aaaaand i just looked up flights/hotels to venice.  if they announce that in the lineup in July, i'm going to seriously consider going to Italy for a week.  tell me i'm not the only one? 

Keep your money:

Venice awash with U.S., U.K. films

ROME -- Wes Anderson's "The Darjeeling Limited" and "It's a Free World" from Ken Loach are among the 21 films to screen in competition at the upcoming Venice Film Festival dominated by English-language films.

A total 22 of the 57 new full-length films screening in and out of competition in Venice are produced or co-produced in the U.S. and the U.K., according to a lineup announced Thursday by festival organizers.

Other English-language films set to screen include "Redacted" from Brian De Palma and "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford" from Andrew Dominik and starring Brad Pitt.

The festival's lineup will also have a typically strong Asian presence, with "The Sun Also Rises" from Jiang Wen -- a China-Hong Kong co-production -- and Japan's "Sukiyaki Western Django" from Takashi Miike among the competition's highlights.

64th Venice Film Festival lineup:
 

Opening film: "Atonement," Joe Wright, (U.K.-U.S.)

In Competition

"The Darjeeling Limited," Wes Anderson (U.S.)
"Sleuth," Kenneth Branagh (U.K.-U.S.)
"Le Chaos," Youssef Chahine (Egypt)
"Redacted," Brian De Palma (U.S.)
"The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford," Andrew Dominik (U.S.)
"Nessuna qualita agli eroi," Paolo Franchi (Italy)
"Michael Clayton," Tony Gilroy (U.S.)
"Nightwatching," Peter Greenaway (Canada-France-Germany-Poland-Netherlands-U.K.)
"En la cuidad de Sylvia," Pilae Lopez De Ayala, Xavier Lafitte (Spain)
"In the Valley of Elah," Paul Haggis (U.S.)
"I'm Not There," Todd Haynes (U.S)
"The Sun Also Rises," Jiang Wen (China-Hong Kong)
"Help Me Eros," Lee Kang Sheng (Taiwan)
"La Graine et le mullet," Abdellatif Kechiche (France)
"Lust, Caution," Ang Lee (Taiwan)
"It's a Free World," Ken Loach (U.K.-Italy-Germany-Spain)
"L'ora di punta," Vincenzo Marra (Italy)
"Sukiyaki Western Django," Takashi Miike (Japan)
"12," Nikita Mikhalkov (Russia)
"Il dolce e l'amaro," Andrea Porporati (Italy)
"Les Amours d'Astree et de Celadon," Eric Rohmer (France-Italy-Spain)

Out Of Competition

"Cassandra's Dream," Woody Allen (U.K.-U.S)
"Cleopatra," Julio Bressane (Brazil)
"La Fille coupee en deux," Claude Chabrol (France)
"Beyond the Years," Im Kwopn Taek (South Korea)
"Glory to the Filmmaker," Takeshi Kitano (Japan)
"Cristovao Colombo -- O enigma," (Portugal-France)

Venetian Nights

"For a Fistful of Dollars," Sergio Leone (Italy-Spain-Germany)
"Blood Brothers," Alexi Tan (Taiwan-China-Hong Kong)
"REC," Paco Blaza and Jaume Balaguero (Spain)
"Far North," Asif Kapadia (U.K.-France)
"The Hunting Party," Richard Shepard (U.S.-Croatia-Bosnia)
"The Nanny Diaries," Shari Springer Berman, Robert Pulcini (U.S.)
"Nocturna," Adria Garcia, Victor Maldonado (Spain, France)

Horizons

"Sad Vacation," Shinji Aoyama (Japan)
"Mal nascida," Joao Canijo (Portugal)
"Searchers 2.0," Alex Cox (U.K.)
"Medee Miracle," Tonino De Bernardi (Italy)
"Cochochi," Laura Amelia Guzman, Israel Cardenas (Mexico-U.K.-Canada)
"With the Girl of Black Soil," Jeon Soo-il (South Korea-France)
"L'Histoire de Richard O," Damien Odoul (France)
"Autumn Ball," Veiko Ounpuu (Estonia)
"The Silence Before Bach," Pere Portabella (Spain)
"Exodus," Penny Woolcock (U.K.)
"The Obscure," Lu Yue (China)
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: modage on July 26, 2007, 01:18:46 PM
sweeeeet, i couldn't go anyway.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on August 04, 2007, 10:08:37 AM
Script Review:

http://www.theoscarigloo.com/2007/articles/therewillbeblood.html


Expect a film with mesmerizing imagery. Director Paul Thomas Anderson seems intent on creating iconic images for the modern age. In my opinion, the best way to describe the essence of this film is that it will be Kubrickian. For those Anderson fans who've been waiting for five years, the trademarks remain intact -- the camera follows characters in long-sustained shots, there are scenes of intense emotion, and by God there will be blood. I would not call the material overtly violent, but nonetheless the deaths and murders that the script describes are both horrifying in their graphic rawness and their dark intention. This picture will be a harrowing experience, and not just in its visuals.
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Post by: Derek on August 05, 2007, 12:23:55 PM

Another script review (some minor spoilers)


http://www.theaspectratio.net/therewillbebloodscript.htm
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pozer on August 06, 2007, 11:26:28 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin on August 04, 2007, 10:08:37 AM
Script Review:

http://www.theoscarigloo.com/2007/articles/therewillbeblood.html
wha bout poz's pozt, macky?  five up, buttercup.
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Post by: The Red Vine on August 19, 2007, 01:09:41 PM
Entertainment Weekly.

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg2.timeinc.net%2Few%2Fdynamic%2Fimgs%2F070814%2Ftwbb_l.jpg&hash=e6349dec91ac49bcc1dd4061604f18524a45acac)

After finishing Punch-Drunk Love in 2002, Boogie Nights director Paul Thomas Anderson found himself fumbling for a follow-up. ''I was really sick of the way I was writing,'' he says. ''Everything looked as though I had written it, and that was a horrible feeling.'' Purely as an exercise, Anderson decided to adapt a scene from a novel he had just discovered: Oil!, Upton Sinclair's 1927 take on the grueling, greedy business of prospecting for black gold in California. ''It was a buoy, just to keep writing,'' says the director. ''I didn't think I would end up adapting the [whole] book, but it turned out that way.''

And so out trickled Blood, which hews close to the first 100 pages of Sinclair's book before going its own way as it tracks the relationship between a silver miner-turned-oilman (Daniel Day-Lewis, who was interested after reading only half the script) and his son (Dillion Freasier). Shooting took place last summer in the remote desert terrain of Marfa, Tex., because, as producer Joanne Sellar explains, ''you can't find old California in California anymore.'' An 80-foot oil derrick was built and filled with fake oil that, according to Anderson, includes ''the stuff they put in chocolate milkshakes at McDonald's.'' The director thinks Blood has helped revitalize his creative process. ''I'm writing something new now — and I actually like it,'' he says. Then, with a chuckle: ''I know that will end.''
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Post by: bonanzataz on August 19, 2007, 02:02:42 PM
gotta admit to you guys...

i wasn't really excited about this movie til now. that post gave me chills.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: The Red Vine on August 19, 2007, 03:22:59 PM
Quote from: bonanzataz on August 19, 2007, 02:02:42 PM
gotta admit to you guys...

i wasn't really excited about this movie til now. that post gave me chills.

Right, because no article about TWBB should be posted on this site. Goddamn you.
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Post by: Pubrick on August 19, 2007, 05:27:58 PM
what? i thought he was being serious.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on August 19, 2007, 11:06:53 PM
It still doesn't feel like something he would do. Neither did PDL, I guess.

I wonder if he will find a way to have his "PTA" comedic scenes in this flick. That could ruin it?
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Post by: bonanzataz on August 20, 2007, 02:31:50 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on August 19, 2007, 05:27:58 PM
what? i thought he was being serious.

i was.

firstly, i love that he's so excited about the prospect of doing something totally different. his enthusiasm rubbed off on me. secondly, there's an article in EW. this movie is now officially real. even after seeing the preview and reading other articles, it never felt like the movie was actually happening (and i didn't really like the trailer, an opinion i kept to myself when you guys were jizzing all over yourselves cuz i knew i'd get flamed). now they're actually making an effort to create a buzz in magazines and shit. a new pta movie is coming out. i almost wasn't really giving a shit until now for some reason.
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Post by: Pubrick on August 20, 2007, 04:58:25 AM
yeah, i thought so.

and let me be the first to overrate this:

Quote from: The Red Vine on August 19, 2007, 01:09:41 PM
''I'm writing something new now — and I actually like it,'' he says.

there will be who? this new one is where is at. let the madness begin! i hear it'll be scoreless..
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Post by: Sigur Rós on August 20, 2007, 11:45:45 AM
I wanna earn enough money I can get away from everyone!  :shock:
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Post by: RegularKarate on August 20, 2007, 02:43:17 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on August 20, 2007, 04:58:25 AM
there will be who? this new one is where is at. let the madness begin! i hear it'll be scoreless wordless imageless three hours of humming..
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Post by: The Red Vine on August 20, 2007, 04:09:35 PM
My apologies then. The comment struck me as very smart-ass. And of course I was eagerly awaiting P's response.


Glad taz is excited about the film. 
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Post by: Pubrick on August 20, 2007, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: The Red Vine on August 20, 2007, 04:09:35 PM
of course I was eagerly awaiting P's response.

you're the kinda guy who'd kick a fella in the nuts just for saying hi.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: The Red Vine on August 20, 2007, 11:19:14 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on August 20, 2007, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: The Red Vine on August 20, 2007, 04:09:35 PM
of course I was eagerly awaiting P's response.

you're the kinda guy who'd kick a fella in the nuts just for saying hi.

Depends on the guy's name.
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Post by: Pubrick on August 21, 2007, 01:41:06 AM
the guy's name is always The Red Vine.
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Post by: squints on August 21, 2007, 03:53:40 PM
enough of this bullshit. Next time i click this thread there better be some news instead of bickering or someone's getting kicked in the nuts

:yabbse-angry:
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Post by: Pozer on August 21, 2007, 05:14:03 PM
dedicated to squints...

check out cigs 'n reds: http://www.cigarettesandredvines.com/main.php?id=N01 (http://www.cigarettesandredvines.com/main.php?id=N01)

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Post by: Stefen on August 21, 2007, 06:22:59 PM
So the running time is 2 hours and 49 minutes. Just like I predicted. In a thread. On another message board.

We might all be a little too old for PTA's fat. Boogie Nights and especially Magnolia have ALOT of fat, but we were young and didn't know any better. We'll see right through this fat.
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Post by: mogwai on August 22, 2007, 03:29:15 AM
Quote from: Stefen on August 21, 2007, 06:22:59 PM
So the running time is 2 hours and 49 minutes. Just like I predicted. In a thread. On another message board.

We might all be a little too old for PTA's fat. Boogie Nights and especially Magnolia have ALOT of fat, but we were young and didn't know any better. We'll see right through this fat.

you don't know what you're talking about. because you're clearly not speaking for me.

yeah yeah.. classic mogs etc. etc. etc.
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Post by: MacGuffin on August 25, 2007, 12:43:25 AM
Source: Hollywood Elsewhere

A ten-minute tribute reel in honor of Daniel Day Lewis's film career -- a reel that will include unseen footage from Paul Thomas Anderson's There Will Be Blood (Paramount Vantage, 12.25) -- will, I'm hearing from a good source, be shown at the Telluride Film Festival the weekend after next. This info contradicts another source who's heard that a 40-minute Blood reel will play there, and still another claiming that Blood will screen in its entirety.

"They were talking about [showing a portion of the film] for a Daniel Day Lewis tribute, I know that, but the festival was begging for the whole film to be shown but it's just not ready yet," a source remarked. A Paramount Vantage spokesperson said nothing was on the table or suitable for comment.

If -- I say "if" -- a longish Blood reel is shown, it will be like those product-reel showings of Gangs of New York, Lord of the Rings and World Trade Center at Cannes, and therefore the first time that Telluride -- the most pure-minded, far- from-the-madding-crowd film festival around -- will have screened a portion of a film solely to spread word-of-mouth to benefit a distributor.

But if just a DDL tribute reel is shown, it'll be nothing big because Telluride, a regular tells me, "has tributed other visiting actors with reels before."
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Post by: modage on August 25, 2007, 07:34:52 PM
maybe i'm slow here but the thing that i didn't notice from the ew article until i just picked up the magazine was that it says it will be released

DECEMBER 26!
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Post by: Marty McSuperfly on September 02, 2007, 08:18:52 AM
Twenty minutes of There Will Be Blood have have screened at Telluride!!! From Hollywood Elsewhere: "The 20 minutes -- yes, only 20 -- of Paul Thomas Anderson's There Will Be Blood [that was shown Friday night at Telluride] looked great," a friend writes. "Unfortunately, I liked those 20 minutes better than any complete film I've seen here."



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Post by: Marty McSuperfly on September 02, 2007, 08:36:52 AM
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Variety's Mike Jones: "The 20 minutes ... established the mysterious film finally as a frontier epic. ... In a series of well-cut scenes, the Telluride audiences watched rabid oil prospector Daniel Plainview (Day-Lewis), manipulative and shrewd, work to buy the oil-rich land off of ignorant homesteaders. ... Day-Lewis' performance both repulses and attracts. He's a wonderfully successful snake charmer. His words are like Norman Rockwell painting –- promising the American Dream to the scared locals he buys out."


From EW.com: 
As for There Will Be Blood, the first rumors had the film premiering in its entirety as part of a festival tribute to Daniel Day-Lewis; the second set of rumors were less optimistic, with P.T. Anderson supposedly bringing a 40-minute piece of the movie. The reality turned out to be even less: just 20 minutes. But as singular reels go, this one was a doozy — I kept checking my watch, hoping the excerpt wasn't about to wrap up.
Anderson claimed that this was the only reel of the film that was finished enough to show, but it sets up the plot's multiple conflicts so neatly, I had to wonder if he didn't pick this segment because it just makes for a great, self-contained trailer for the film.

As Day-Lewis told the crowd, it's "really, really, really, really loosely based" on the Sinclair novel (I forget how many times he said "loosely," but I believe it was about five). It's also hardly recognizable as an Anderson film, from the looks of things, not being an ensemble piece, for starters.

Yet to to the extent that his pictures tend to focus on weird extended families in general and father/child relationships in particular, it's easy to see Blood as part of an Anderson throughline.

In the excerpt, Day-Lewis, playing a self-styled "oil man," is first seen telling his young son that he plans to buy some crude-rich land under false pretenses, making his kid complicit in his duplicity. Soon, he's buying a plot from a naïve farmer whose intensely religious and suspicious son looks like the film's principle antagonist.

But there are other potential enemies set up, since Day-Lewis tells the workers he brings in to work the desert land that the area will be irrigated and literally bear fruit, and they'll set up a thriving town there. Unless you've seen more verdant oil fields than I have, you know that particular plot thread probably won't end happily either. But we'll all have to wait till December to see the promised red stuff of the title.

From Flixer.com (WITH SPOILERS OF THE REEL): I'll have more on the Daniel Day-Lewis tribute in my diary entry later tonight, but first thing's first: almost two hours into the tribute, Day-Lewis said, "Oh yeah — let's invite Paul up here now," and Paul Thomas Anderson took the stage to introduce 17 minutes of There Will Be Blood.

Anderson called it "the third reel," but my first impression was that it played more like a product reel, with what felt like an entire second act condensed into less than 20 minutes. But thinking back on PTA's body of work, this kind of temporal pacing wouldn't be unprecedented–the guy loves his montages, and what we saw was so impeccably, purposefully edited to a gorgeous score (violin heavy, by turns subtle and scary–it's so dynamic that it might be an existing piece of music, but if so I've never heard it before) that it could conceivably play within the film. And, could very well be amazing.
My full notes on the footage follows after the jump.


The footage opened on Day-Lewis' character, an independent oil prospector named Daniel Plainview, in the middle of a trip to a ranch with his young son. They've told the Sunday family, the owners of the ranch, that they're quail hunting, but really, Plainview is looking for oil. They climb up a steep rise, overlooking a vast expanse. Plainview tells his son his plan to buy the land and build a pipeline, so he can move the oil without shipping costs. The kid asks his dad how much he plans to pay. Plainview says, "We'll give them quail prices."

Cut to dinner at the Sunday Family shack. The shack is dark and dingy, and you can see a housefly buzzing around the dinner table. Plainview offers $3700 for the land. Old man Sunday stutters that God has sent Plainview here, but his son Eli (played by Paul Dano), is suspicous. "There's oil here," Eli says. "I know there is." Eli says he wants $10,000. "For what," Plainview asks. "For my church," Eli responds. Shot-reverse shot, extreme close-ups. They have a deal.

Plainvie goes to a real estate broker, asks him to see a map of the land around the Sunday Ranch. He pulls out a notebook and takes notes of who owns what: he wants to buy it all.

This is where the score comes in for the first time: propulsive, screechy violins. It's the aural embodiment of gears working: Plainview's mental gears, the gears of labor and capitalism as he puts his plan in motion.

A train pulls into town, and Plainview meets an older gentleman who appears to be a rival at the station. Plainview tells him he's laid claims to this territory and encourages the older gentleman to "go east." The old guy looks like he's battled with Plainview before and no longer has the energy. He applauds Plainview for using his little boy to grease the wheels of his entry into the community. He puts his hand on the boy's soldier and tells him that if he ever wants to sue his daddy, he'll draw up the papers. "You should be getting half of what you're dad's making." The older gentleman gets back on the train and rides out of town.

The little boy wanders around at dusk with Mary Sunday, a blonde girl about his age. She asks him how much money they're all going to make. The boy says, "It's hard to say."

Cut to Plainview and the boy, sitting around a campfire. The son tells his father that Mary's father beats her when she doesn't pray. Plainview absorbs this information.
Cut to Plainview's office. The real estate broker says one landowner doesn't want to sell without speaking to Plainview directly first. Plainview says, "He'll come around." He leaves his office and goes into a large room, where a large group of landowners have gathered. He begins giving them a speech about all of the improvements his operation is going to pay for: schools, agriculture, roads. Most of this plays over gorgeous, dark shots of miners getting off a train , flooding the area, building a camp.  Cut back to Plainview: are there any questions? Only one, from Eli: "Will the new road lead to the church?" Plainview says, "That'll be the first place it leads."

Dissolve. The camera scans the camp; there are now chickens, horses, women. Plainview is in his office, and he hears singing. He looks out the window and we see a wide shot, from above, of Eli leading a group of bible-toting singers through the camp.

Eli comes up to Plainview's office. He asks Plainview if "there's anything the church can do for you?" He says he knows they're christening the oil derrick the next day, and asks Plainvie if he'll introduce him as "the son of these hills" and allow him to give a blessing. Plainview agrees.

Cut to the ceremony. Plainview, flanked by his son and Mary Sunday, gives his own God-infused speech to an assembled crowd. He refers to Mary as "the daughter of these hills." He does not invite Eli to give his blessing. Plainview's son releases the drill; it comes up slick with oil.

The crowd disperses; a celebration begins. Kids run around a large picnic table. Plainview stops Mary and asks if she likes the dress he bought her. She says yes. He asks her if her father still hits her. She shakes her head. "No hitting," Plainview says. He tells her to go play and not to come back. She does. Plainview sits back, and we see Mary's father has been seated across from him at the table, watching all along. Plainview pulls from a flask.

The end.



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Post by: picolas on September 02, 2007, 02:51:33 PM
can't. contain.. self...

:yabbse-lipsrsealed:
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Post by: MacGuffin on September 03, 2007, 12:25:47 PM
Telluride: The Daniel Day-Lewis Tribute
Source: Cinematical

Every year at Telluride, they do three Tributes. In recent years, at least, they've tended to have one film person who's well-known in his or her own country, but not widely known and appreciated, one film person who is well-known pretty much everywhere, and one person who's made a significant contribution to film, even though you may not recognize their name. This year's tributes are Indian filmmaker Shyam Benegal (first category), French composer Michel Legrand, and actor Daniel Day-Lewis, whose tribute was held tonight at the Sheridan Opera House.

Thankfully, I had a Patron Pass to get into it, because the venue only holds 250, and between the patrons and priority line (for the Sheridan, every pass has two numbers shaded in that correspond to the film's program numbers -- a shaded number means you get priority seating there for that particular show) the house was packed. I doubt very much that any passholders who weren't lucky enough to have the number "1" shaded on their passes made it into this event.

Daniel Day-Lewis doesn't do a lot of interviews, so the chance to see him in person and hear him speak was too good to resist. I lucked out and got a perfect seat on the floor, thanks to a fellow journalist who had an extra seat next to him that he very kindly offered to me. The evening kicked off (after an intro by fest co-director Gary Meyer -- who, like all the staff at this fest, is so nice and engaging, you just want to sit down and hang out with him over coffee) with a one-hour compilation of clips from Day-Lewis' impressive filmography, from his uncredited role as a child vandal in Sunday Bloody Sunday (1971) to The Ballad of Jack and Rose (2005), which his wife, Rebecca Miller, wrote and directed. The clips were nicely edited, showing Day-Lewis' range as an actor and the wide variety of roles he's chosen throughout his career.

Following the clips, Day-Lewis was presented his silver medallion by director Paul Thomas Anderson, who helms Day-Lewis' current film, There Will Be Blood, and then Day-Lewis sat down for a chat with Annette Insdorf, Columbia University film studies professor and author of numerous books. Day-Lewis came out dressed casually in flannel shirt (sleeves rolled up to reveal his wicked tattoos) and black hat, and proceeded to floor the audience with his wit and intelligence for the next 20 minutes or so. Insdorf, an expert in her field, quite obviously knows subject and came well prepared to interview Day-Lewis in front of the packed house. Her first couple questions were rather lengthy as she tried to delve deep into the choices Day-Lewis makes as an actor; she seemed a bit thrown when his response to the first was a chuckle and "You know, I don't know," but she kept her cool and before long she had the actor waxing on about working with Martin Scorsese (Gangs of New York, The Age of Innocence), Stephen Frears (My Beautiful Laundrette) and Jim Sheridan (The Boxer, In the Name of the Father, My Left Foot).

Day-Lewis did open up a bit about his acting method, admitting that the doesn't like to rehearse (which he said he worries bothers his fellow actors who like to rehearse, more than it bothers the directors he works with), and that he enjoys improvisation. He got a chuckle from the crowd when he related how Stephen Frears, before shooting a scene in My Beautiful Laundrette where he and Gordon Warnecke had to kiss, told the actors, "I'm going to go get a Mars bar, when I get back, you tell me where we should set up," then left his actors to ponder that they'd have to be "snogging" on camera. Day-Lewis also talked a bit about his admiration for actor Charles Laughton, to whom he himself has been compared, saying that he thinks Laughton is the finest actor ever to come out of the British Isles.

Insdorf asked Day-Lewis how he chooses a script, something that I (and no doubt most of the people there tonight) was very interested in, given how relatively few films Day-Lewis has made (after winning the Best Actor Oscar for My Left Foot in 1989, he took three years off before making The Last of the Mohicans, then took five years off between The Boxer in 1997 and Gangs of New York in 2002). His answer, though, was pretty simple -- there's no real formula to how he decides what roles to accept: he reads the script and it either feels right, like he absolutely HAS to do it -- or it doesn't. He said that he often likes scripts that he turns down because it just doesn't feel "right" to him. With his latest film, for instance, he read Anderson's script, they met, and he took the role -- end of discussion.

Toward the end of the talk, Insdorf got Day-Lewis to talk a bit about the morality of some of his characters -- Gerry Conlon in In the Name of the Father and John Proctor in The Crucible, in particular, and he said that he doesn't know if he personally would have the courage to take the actions those characters take if he was in the same circumstances. But that, he said, is part of the value of playing those characters -- to step in the shoes of another person, immerse yourself in who they are, and convince the audience -- and yourself -- that you would. Insdorf asked Day-Lewis about his role in There Will Be Blood, and whether he'd prepared for the role by watching Giant; he said he'd watched it only once before filming, but a couple dozen times since then, because his five-year-old son is obsessed with the film's breakfast scene.

After the conversation wrapped, we got a real treat -- a sneak preview of 20 minutes of There Will Be Blood (based on the 1927 Upton Sinclair novel Oil!), from the third reel of the film. What we saw was this: the film is about Plainview (Day-Lewis), a turn-of-the-century Texas oil prospector who sets out to buy most of the land in and around a small town, and his relationship with his young son. Paul Dano (Little Miss Sunshine) plays Eli Sunday, a young preacher who goes toe-to-toe with Plainview. What we saw of the film looked gorgeous, and both Day-Lewis and Dano appears to give powerful performances. The film opens in limited release December 26 (presumably for Oscar consideration); I wouldn't be surprised if Day-Lewis ends up with an Oscar nod for it.

All-in-all, the Daniel Day-Lewis Tribute will end up being one of the highlights of the fest for me. It was so delightful to see and hear Day-Lewis talk about his films in his own words, and to see how he lights up when he gets going talking about film. He has that passion and intelligence in real life that translate so remarkably to the big screen, and I can't wait to see all of There Will Be Blood. After that, I suppose we'll have to wait a few years for his next film He didn't rule out another collaboration with his wife, and that would be great to see -- though another Scorsese or Frears collaboration would be cool, too, yes?
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Post by: modage on September 06, 2007, 10:45:11 AM
cigsvines...

wednesday, september 5th
trailer updates

friend mike, the projectionist, has returned and sent us this email and i thought it would be of great interest to you all. he will do a better job relating the info than i will, so i have copy/pasted it:

It's Mike the projectionist again. We get these industry newsletters with all sorts of useless information on them, and the latest one says that trailers for THERE WILL BE BLOOD will be shipped with 3:10 TO YUMA and THE BRAVE ONE.

That being said, this info is often times inaccurate. And even if it is accurate, it's up to the individual theater to decide whether or not they want the trailer play with the movie. It could even end up on a different movie. Who knows? But if you're looking for a THERE WILL BE BLOOD trailer, your best bet is either 3:10 TO YUMA or THE BRAVE ONE.

I'll personally be handling a print of 3:10 TO YUMA tomorrow night. I'll let you know what I find.
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Post by: Satcho9 on September 06, 2007, 06:54:44 PM
Teaser Poster. Enjoy.

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/twbb1.jpg

admin edit: image replaced with link to make thread readable
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Post by: Astrostic on September 06, 2007, 07:44:36 PM
I think that is a really great poster, though I'm not too keen on the tagline.

I wonder when www.paramountvantage.com/blood will go live/what will be on it.
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Post by: Stefen on September 06, 2007, 07:45:58 PM
It looks awesome. Very creative. I see he's going with that olde english font for everything. It reminds me of a cholo tagging a wall.

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Post by: Gold Trumpet on September 06, 2007, 09:06:22 PM
Quote from: Astrostic on September 06, 2007, 07:44:36 PM
I think that is a really great poster, though I'm not too keen on the tagline.

I like it. It's not a general tag line. Tag line and the title are seemingly one sentence on the poster. It gives "There Will Be Blood" a lot more meaning.

The poster is gorgeous. If I like the movie as much as I think I will, I'll buy it for sure. Easily the best poster for any of his films.

Sad to see "P.T. Anderson" is no more. I liked how cute the name was. But like in City of God, Lil' Dice had to grow up to become Lil' Ze. P.T. Anderson is finally Paul Thomas Anderson!
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Post by: picolas on September 06, 2007, 10:43:31 PM
Rotten Tomatoes has an "exclusive gallery" of two photos. one is new. the other you've seen before but cropped.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/there_will_be_blood/gallery.php?page=1&size=hires&nopop=1
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Post by: pumba on September 06, 2007, 11:51:32 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on September 06, 2007, 09:06:22 PM
Quote from: Astrostic on September 06, 2007, 07:44:36 PM
I think that is a really great poster, though I'm not too keen on the tagline.


Easily the best poster for any of his films.

I thought the theatrical punch-drunk love poster (not that stupid sandler's head shit) was one of the greatest posters ever.
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Post by: B.C. Long on September 07, 2007, 12:16:59 AM
I wonder if this is legitimately rated R? What I mean by legitimate is did they rate this R just because Anderson said so or because it deserves that rating. Because "Some Violence" doesn't seem warrant an  R rating.
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Post by: Pubrick on September 07, 2007, 12:28:45 AM
that's all well and excellent, but am i the only one bummed that they changed the title to "Chere Mill Be Blood"?

way to drop the ball, Paul. sheesh.
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Post by: maya kash on September 07, 2007, 12:30:58 AM
You used to be funny

What happened?
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Post by: Pubrick on September 07, 2007, 12:50:16 AM
i believe in this gag.  :yabbse-sad:

when ambition meets faith: Chere Mill Be Blood.
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Post by: MacGuffin on September 07, 2007, 01:33:42 AM
Quote from: B.C. Long on September 07, 2007, 12:16:59 AM
I wonder if this is legitimately rated R? What I mean by legitimate is did they rate this R just because Anderson said so or because it deserves that rating. Because "Some Violence" doesn't seem warrant an  R rating.

The title alone tells you how violent it will be.
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Post by: matt35mm on September 07, 2007, 01:48:34 AM
Isn't it illegal to put the R-rating on the poster if it isn't rated R?

I do believe the MPAA grants something like a pre-approval based on a script and maybe some rough cuts which is subject to change upon viewing the final cut, or if the studio agrees to deliver something that the MPAA would grant an R to (effectively meaning that the director signs an agreement to deliver a movie that would be rated R).

Actually I'm entirely speculating on that.  Also ratings have been known to change, even on the posters.  I remmeber Princess Mononoke had posters with a PG rating on them, but the movie was officially rated PG-13 upon release, and The Fountain went from R to PG-13 after an appeal.
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Post by: ElPandaRoyal on September 07, 2007, 05:35:47 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on September 07, 2007, 12:50:16 AM
i believe in this gag.  :yabbse-sad:

when ambition meets faith: Chere Mill Be Blood.

I believe in it too. I LOLed.
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Post by: The Red Vine on September 07, 2007, 09:29:23 AM
I'm glad to finally see a poster, so I will consider it my birthday gift today. But compared to PTA's other posters,  I find it disappointing.

It's too bland when put with the sheer creative designs of the Magnolia frogs poster, or the Punch Drunk Love. It's just text and nothing else to spark interest, which makes it hard to stand out from many other posters. But I'm crossing my fingers for another design.
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Post by: Fernando on September 07, 2007, 09:44:10 AM
Great poster, just this morning I was thinking how long we had to wait since the movie it's three months and change away.

I'm glad that he changed PT for his entire name, sounds better to me.
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Post by: modage on September 07, 2007, 11:12:39 AM
its not my favorite, but its not my least favorite.  wait, maybe it is.  but does anybody else find it weird to see a Miramax logo on a PT poster?
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Post by: mogwai on September 07, 2007, 11:50:01 AM
Quote from: modage on September 07, 2007, 11:12:39 AMbut does anybody else find it weird to see a Miramax logo on a PT poster?

no, because it's not produced by the weinstein bro's.
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Post by: Pozer on September 07, 2007, 01:02:01 PM
today is a glorious day, children...

http://cigarettesandredvines.com/main.php?id=N01 (http://cigarettesandredvines.com/main.php?id=N01)

now rejoice with me, my xixax brothers.
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Post by: ElPandaRoyal on September 07, 2007, 01:05:28 PM
Creamed my pants.

Twice.

I'm all dirty and shit.
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Post by: ElPandaRoyal on September 07, 2007, 01:10:38 PM
"Original Music by Jonny Greenwood"

Was this already known? While I was listening to it in the trailer, it totally sounded like Jon Brion  :ponder:
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Post by: Pozer on September 07, 2007, 01:15:02 PM
that was not known.  and that is awesome.  there are TOO many of my favorites going on with this movie now.   

DDL gave me chills in that trailer.  "I broke you, and I beat you..."
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Post by: modage on September 07, 2007, 01:17:07 PM
I LOVE THIS MAN.  :shock:

now, what is the story with jon brion?  first fiona ditches him, now paul!
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Post by: ElPandaRoyal on September 07, 2007, 01:29:06 PM
Quote from: modage on September 07, 2007, 01:17:07 PM
now, what is the story with jon brion?  first fiona ditches him, now paul!

I guess Paul couldn't resist having a radio head.
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Post by: Pubrick on September 07, 2007, 01:31:05 PM
"my son is a healer and a vessel for the holy spirit"

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my favourite scene of the movie (so far).
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Post by: Fernando on September 07, 2007, 01:42:07 PM
Oh man, this won't be any less than amazing, and don't know about you but I've seen enough of TWBB, there's no need for any new spoilerful trailers or teasers like all flims do these days.


Edit: Good cap there, and there are plenty more there; mod needs now to update his spoilatar.
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Post by: ©brad on September 07, 2007, 01:50:50 PM
wow.
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Post by: The Perineum Falcon on September 07, 2007, 02:00:40 PM
incredible.

I wish I had something intelligent and insightful to say, but I'm at a loss.......


not that that's anything new.
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on September 07, 2007, 02:41:25 PM
Quote from: just sparrow on July 24, 2007, 03:44:31 PM
It's like with Darjeeling, it's an old friend you haven't seen in a while and you know it's going to be business as usual, like they never left.  But with There Will Be Blood, it's like an old friend who went off to war and now he's back... and you don't know what he's going to be like because he's been in the shit.  Is he going to be able to tell you about what he's seen or will he just have a thousand yard stare?  You just don't know.

So it looks to me like he's going to tell us so much about what he's seen that WE'RE going to have flashbacks!  Blood is back on top again!

When I saw "Original Music by Jonny Greenwood," I swear I started to feel woozy in my chair.  So the score to this will actually be Heady instead of Shinny.

Quote from: Pubrick on September 07, 2007, 01:31:05 PM
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my favourite scene of the movie (so far).

Yeah, seeing that made me do this:

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And wow, Pubrick, you are SERIOUSLY committed to that Chere Mill Be Blood gag.
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Post by: modage on September 07, 2007, 02:50:47 PM
i think they took it down.  did they take it down?
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on September 07, 2007, 02:59:11 PM
They might have.

http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=18237

EDIT: They took the new trailer off of this page too!
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Post by: Pozer on September 07, 2007, 03:36:50 PM
this works too: http://www.askmen.com/flash/videos/swf/sep07_be_blood.swf  (http://www.askmen.com/flash/videos/swf/sep07_be_blood.swf)

co-worker just snuck up on me - "why do you keep watching that?" 
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Post by: JG on September 07, 2007, 03:40:35 PM
its the best.  i can't think of many people who will want to see this though. 
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Post by: Sal on September 07, 2007, 05:17:35 PM
music by Jonny Greenwood
:hurl:
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Post by: Stefen on September 07, 2007, 06:20:25 PM
Music By Jonny Greenwood? That's so weird.

I really wanted to hear Jon Brion do music for this type of film, but it'll be interesting to see what Jonny Greenwood can bring.

What teh fuck is going on?

And why can't these assholes put an H in Jonny and Jon like the rest of Johnnys and John.

And Thom Yorke has an extra/unneeded H in his name that he could give away.
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Post by: bluejaytwist on September 07, 2007, 06:37:58 PM
keep our looking ones peeled on this as well....(soon)

http://www.paramountvantage.com/blood/

cjw
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Post by: The Red Vine on September 07, 2007, 07:45:50 PM
I just got back from 3:10 to Yuma and the TWBB trailer is attached. It was cool to see it in the theater.
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Post by: SiliasRuby on September 07, 2007, 08:15:42 PM
Man, this is going to be badass.
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Post by: bluejaytwist on September 07, 2007, 09:57:40 PM
when they told me 'soon' i didnt think they meant tonight. official twbb site lives..
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Post by: Stefen on September 07, 2007, 10:24:26 PM
QUICKTIME OR DEATH!!!
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Post by: cron on September 07, 2007, 11:18:32 PM
somebody's been watching deadwood religiously!
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Post by: Stefen on September 07, 2007, 11:25:33 PM
Quote from: cronopio on September 07, 2007, 11:18:32 PM
somebody's been watching deadwood religiously!

Is that a good or bad thing?
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Post by: cron on September 07, 2007, 11:29:19 PM
that's very good, that paul thomas anderson has been watching deadwood.
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Post by: Stefen on September 07, 2007, 11:35:34 PM
I've never seen the show. I've heard good and bad things and now I've heard more good things.

That's good.
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Post by: B.C. Long on September 08, 2007, 01:01:57 AM
Quote from: The Red Vine on September 07, 2007, 07:45:50 PM
I just got back from 3:10 to Yuma and the TWBB trailer is attached. It was cool to see it in the theater.

I saw a Matinee and they didn't show it. What theatre did you go to?
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Post by: The Red Vine on September 08, 2007, 01:17:25 AM
Quote from: B.C. Long on September 08, 2007, 01:01:57 AM
Quote from: The Red Vine on September 07, 2007, 07:45:50 PM
I just got back from 3:10 to Yuma and the TWBB trailer is attached. It was cool to see it in the theater.

I saw a Matinee and they didn't show it. What theatre did you go to?

It was at a Regal Cinemas theater, next to the trailers for the Alien VS. Predator sequel and Saw 4.
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Post by: elpablo on September 08, 2007, 01:44:24 AM
I want that trailer inside me.
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Post by: maya kash on September 08, 2007, 01:57:39 AM
Honestly.

If you can get "outside" your own "in"sanity, this is a disappointing/yawneresque trailer.

No one would give a damn if it wasn't a Small Bombus Handersand film.  Ok, maybe for Daniel a bit, but c'mon man. 

Get a hold of yourself.  On second thought, let go of yourself.

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Post by: john on September 08, 2007, 02:32:13 AM
Quote from: maya kash on September 08, 2007, 01:57:39 AM
Honestly.
...
this is a disappointing/yawneresque trailer.

No one would give a damn if it wasn't a Small Bombus Handersand film.  Ok, maybe for Daniel a bit, but c'mon man. 



Total.... fucking.... bullshit.

True, this film wouldn't be getting the same kind of pre-release attention/adulation if it were by by, nearly, anyone else... but, c'mon, that's because it's by Paul Thomas Anderson. Whose filmography, if I'm not mistaken, is one of the main reasons this message board began in the first place. A message board that then, and now, expanded to house all kinds of different opinions and tastes, including some less-than-enthusiastic/more critical interpretations of Anderson's work. But, still, PTA is a Lynch-pin director here. Internet communities like this are pretty much started for people to geek out/fetishize/argue their core obsessions so, yes, more people are going to be talking about this film than whatever the fuck Ken Loach is doing next.

But you know  what? Even if this wasn't by PTA, it's still a visually stunning and exciting trailer. YOu might be able to argue that, with the exception of a few here, it might be given more slack than anything else that comes out this year, but that doesn't change the fact that the images , music, and dialoue presented here merit any praise and anticipation that comes next.

It's a wonderful promise the same way the trailer for No Country For Old Men is. And, simply from one film fan to another, I'm baffled that any of that could be considered "disappointing/yawneresque".

Really... what would it take to make that exciting to you? Describe it to me, scene-by-scene... because, if it beats that, you should probably be making movies and not making apathetic criticisms on a message board.

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Post by: maya kash on September 08, 2007, 03:51:03 AM
Some comedic banter b/w cheadle and reilly about horses would have made it more exciting to me...

Or a c/u of DDL saying something like, "I'm Daniel Plainview"

Or just some fucked up wavy colors and strange music with intermittent shots of paul dano taking it from behind.

That would be exciting.






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Post by: Pubrick on September 08, 2007, 04:37:41 AM
you crazy ho.
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Post by: maya kash on September 08, 2007, 04:45:33 AM
Tanks Bee Diddy

You can sniff me panties anytime

Cept when chere mill be blood

Come over sumtime and I'll show you my trailer...I call her rusty

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Post by: children with angels on September 08, 2007, 09:22:38 AM
Oh, it looks very good... I'm going to stop myself from watching the trailer over and over though - once is enough: I don't want to become so familar with the images that they take on that second-hand quality when I see them in the cinema.

I wonder what, if any, parts of the music in the trailer were Greenwood. I was guessing the very percussive part was his, but then wasn't so sure about the string-orchestrated bit. It's not completely out of left field for him to do this I suppose - remember how crazy PTA was about Bodysong (he was even quoted on the DVD box here in the UK)... It's exciting, though also scary: Brion is the king and truly understands Anderson's style, whereas I don't remember being in love with Bodysong or its music. However, we shall see.
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Post by: citizn on September 08, 2007, 11:23:51 AM
Quote from: children with angels on September 08, 2007, 09:22:38 AM
I wonder what, if any, parts of the music in the trailer were Greenwood. I was guessing the very percussive part was his, but then wasn't so sure about the string-orchestrated bit.

Yes, the percussive song is actually a Greenwood song from the Bodysong soundtrack. The song is called Convergence. I do hope this was just used for the trailer and that it will not end up in the movie. Nevertheless, it is an exciting trailer. I'm very interested to see how the story plays out between DDL and Paul Dano's character.
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Post by: john on September 08, 2007, 02:25:46 PM
Quote from: maya kash on September 08, 2007, 03:51:03 AM
Some comedic banter b/w cheadle and reilly about horses would have made it more exciting to me...

Or a c/u of DDL saying something like, "I'm Daniel Plainview"

Or just some fucked up wavy colors and strange music with intermittent shots of paul dano taking it from behind.

That would be exciting.


Alright.

Add some shots of Philip Seymour Hoffman gambling boisterously and I'm in.

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Post by: Kal on September 08, 2007, 04:19:25 PM
Everyone in this thread... just get a room!

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Post by: A Matter Of Chance on September 08, 2007, 05:45:09 PM
this reminded me of jean de florette
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Post by: modage on September 08, 2007, 06:12:27 PM
Quote from: bluejaytwist on September 07, 2007, 09:57:40 PM
when they told me 'soon' i didnt think they meant tonight. official twbb site lives..

really?   when i click it i just get

Not Found

The requested URL /blood/ was not found on this server.
Apache/2 Server at www.paramountvantage.com Port 80

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Post by: Kal on September 08, 2007, 07:12:58 PM
it was up but the links where not working... so i guess they took it down.

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Post by: AntiDumbFrogQuestion on September 09, 2007, 11:05:25 AM
this trailer makes the movie look so fucking cool

I wonder if anybody chuckles at the part where Paul Dano gasps

I know, it's a real reaction that would occur if you got slapped, and it's in the midst of a dramatic/awesome trailer, but it's still almost kinda funny

my favorite shot thus far is DDL in front of the Burning Tower with his back to us, with his hands up like he's conducting the demise of the thing
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Post by: B.C. Long on September 10, 2007, 12:30:01 AM
Why don't I own this? WHY DON'T I OWN THIS!!?!

Freakin' awesome.
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Post by: JG on September 10, 2007, 08:04:54 AM
Quote from: B.C. Long on September 10, 2007, 12:30:01 AM
Why don't I own this? WHY DON'T I OWN THIS!!?!

MacGuffin in a DVD store. 
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Post by: modage on September 10, 2007, 08:15:06 AM
Quote from: JG on September 10, 2007, 08:04:54 AM
Quote from: B.C. Long on September 10, 2007, 12:30:01 AM
Why don't I own this? WHY DON'T I OWN THIS!!?!

MacGuffin in a DVD store. 
excellent.  :yabbse-grin:
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Post by: Neil on September 10, 2007, 10:31:40 AM
To put this simply. I'm pumped. greenwood will be exquisite, we all know pta wouldn't settle for less. What a huge point in my film life.
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Post by: tpfkabi on September 10, 2007, 11:19:51 AM
is Dano's character voodoo/fanatical in the book or is that PT's choice?
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Post by: edison on September 10, 2007, 05:39:28 PM
Quote from: bigideas on September 10, 2007, 11:19:51 AM
is Dano's character voodoo/fanatical in the book or is that PT's choice?

I don't even remember a character like that in the book. There was some conflict in trying to get that certain piece of land but I think DDl's character fixed it pretty quickly. The trailer seems to say that this conflict will be a primary focus. Remember that it has been said that the film is very, very loosely adapted. So yeah, while the idea of a father and son building an oil empire is there, it focused, if I remember correctly, more on the boy growing up.
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Post by: Ghostboy on September 10, 2007, 05:45:56 PM
It's a big part of the book, although still not as big as it appears to be in the film - the character of Eli is an Evangelical preacher, whose beliefs (and hypcrocrisy) are set into sharp contrast with Bunny (the son's name in the book).
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Post by: RegularKarate on September 11, 2007, 03:17:47 PM
I'm late to this trailer... so good.

This feels more PT than the teaser we got.  I'm getting shivers just thinking about it.

This > Darjeeling
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Post by: ©brad on September 11, 2007, 04:41:32 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate on September 11, 2007, 03:17:47 PM
I'm late to this trailer... so good.

This feels more PT than the teaser we got.  I'm getting shivers just thinking about it.

This > Darjeeling
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Post by: Stefen on September 12, 2007, 02:23:27 PM
I remember watching the Magnolia trailer over and over again, just memorizing every part. I used to listen to Momentum on repeat. This trailer has that feel. I never got into PDL too much, it just felt small and a waste of time, but this, THIS is getting me pumped. I feel like a 15 year old kid again.
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Post by: maya kash on September 12, 2007, 04:34:04 PM
Quote from: Stefen on September 12, 2007, 02:23:27 PM
I feel like a 15 year old kid again.

Im confused.

Why exactly does watching the CMBB trailer remind you of whacking off repeatedly in the shower because you're getting no play from the 9th grade ladies?

Actually, stay in the shower and give us some quiet time to ourselves.

The thought of that makes me feel like a 38 year old parent again.



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Post by: Stefen on September 12, 2007, 04:39:35 PM
Quote from: maya kash on September 12, 2007, 04:34:04 PM
Quote from: Stefen on September 12, 2007, 02:23:27 PM
I feel like a 15 year old kid again.

Im confused.

Why exactly does watching the CMBB trailer remind you of whacking off repeatedly in the shower because you're getting no play from the 9th grade ladies?

Actually, stay in the shower and give us some quiet time to ourselves.

The thought of that makes me feel like a 38 year old parent again.





HAHA, what the fuck was that?

Kid, I got almost as much play in 9th grade as your daughter does in 4th. And like your daughter, I had the fullest moustache in the whole school. I used to brush it with one of those switchblade combs you get at the toy stands at the state fair/rodeo.

Back up off me, foo!
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Post by: maya kash on September 12, 2007, 05:33:48 PM
May I call you Jack, Stefen?

Yo, if I had a daughter, and she was in 4th grade, I would surgically fuse her labia shut to protect her from peddies like yourself.

And Foo, when I up on you, you will know this.  If nothing else for the intense burning pressure you will feel from the long rod fishing for intelligence in your spleen.

You're a funny kid, Jack.  Go watch the trailer again and let me break you off some more later.

:lol:
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Post by: Stefen on September 12, 2007, 06:15:50 PM
This thread = not made for a boy to puff his chest towards a man.

Leave it to the PTA talk and if you wanna act a fool then meet me at the dice game.
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Post by: Pubrick on September 12, 2007, 06:20:45 PM
Quote from: maya kash on September 12, 2007, 04:34:04 PM
CMBB

that made my day.
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Post by: maya kash on September 12, 2007, 06:37:18 PM
Quote from: Stefen on September 12, 2007, 06:15:50 PM
This thread = not made for a boy to puff his chest towards a man.

Leave it to the PTA talk and if you wanna act a fool then meet me at the dice game.

"So you tell me, 'that's that' before I beat the hell from you."


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Post by: AntiDumbFrogQuestion on September 12, 2007, 09:10:57 PM
I feel the only preface we had to this film, stylistically, was in the prologue to MAGNOLIA.

"Green, Berry, Hill...and I am trying to think that this was only a matter of Coincidence."

People in suits, the old days.

Whatev.


Just Excited.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on September 13, 2007, 01:18:09 AM
This thread is boring me. Everyone is replying to nothing. I say this because I feel dumb for continuing to check this and seeing nothing new each time.

Minor suggestion: Have a thread devoted to news of There Will Be Blood and a thread devoted to discussion. If someone discusses in the news thread, shoot them.

When the film is released, delete the news thread and make the discussion one the permanent thread. Or whichever, but there needs to be some separation.

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Post by: Gold Trumpet on September 13, 2007, 01:33:36 AM
Oh, one more thing...

I picked up the first There Will Be Blood poster on Ebay.

I'll put it up on the wall straight ahead of my desk where I write. Only time I've bought a poster pre-viewing and only time such a poster got an illustrious place to hang in my apartment.

Fucking eh!
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Post by: JG on September 13, 2007, 08:35:12 AM
no i think it'll be fun to keep it all in one thread and see it go over 100 pages (first xixax thread to do so?).  as long as ppl aren't posting senseless ish. 

ban stefen. 
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Post by: Pubrick on September 13, 2007, 09:01:21 AM
Quote from: JG on September 13, 2007, 08:35:12 AM
over 100 pages (first xixax thread to do so?). 

there's one over 100. one over 200. and one over 300.

welcome to xixax, btw.
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Post by: JG on September 13, 2007, 02:54:39 PM
that was silly of me.
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Post by: picolas on September 14, 2007, 12:58:27 AM
it would be the first single movie-related thread i think.
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Post by: Kal on September 14, 2007, 02:24:56 AM
i keep doing the same and hoping there is something new to read... and there isnt. it bothers me, so i keep posting to also annoy others.

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Post by: picolas on September 14, 2007, 02:39:32 AM
hey, don't do that.
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Post by: mogwai on September 14, 2007, 08:56:03 AM
Quote from: kal on September 14, 2007, 02:24:56 AMi keep doing the same and hoping there is something new to read... and there isnt. it bothers me, so i keep posting to also annoy others.

no, we don't need two stefen's thank you very much. i'm kind of a substitute for stefen in case he calls in sick.
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Post by: MacGuffin on September 19, 2007, 09:23:18 PM
Source: Hollywood Elsewhere

I'm skeptical but at the same time half-persuaded that a special Harry Knowles-orchestrated "secret screening" of Paul Thomas Anderson's There Will Be Blood (Paramount Vantage, 12.26) will be shown soon -- perhaps on Saturday, 9.22 -- at Austin's Alamo Draft House (on South Lamar) as part of Fantastic Fest (9.20 to 9.27). Two sources -- one direct, one second-hand -- funnelled the info. Paramount Vantage reps denied or poured water on the story. Draft House honcho and festival organizer Tim League didn't return calls.
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Post by: modage on September 27, 2007, 04:14:53 PM
so its either tonite or there is no Blood screening.  fingers crossed for none.   :yabbse-grin:
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Post by: Pozer on September 27, 2007, 06:39:19 PM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg230.imageshack.us%2Fimg230%2F7449%2Ffingerxedqu2.jpg&hash=b1e9a433bd9b943ba630b96e0f4b34c3677d595e)
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Post by: Ghostboy on September 28, 2007, 02:26:19 AM
It totally played. Goddamn it.
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Post by: soixante on September 28, 2007, 02:38:00 AM
Here's an article just posted on Variety site:

by Marjorie Baumgarten

The secret closing-night film of Fantastic Fest 3 in Austin, Texas, on Thursday night turned out to be the first public screening of Paul Thomas Anderson's "There Will Be Blood." Certain to be rewarded with year-end accolades, Anderson's film is a true American saga - one that rivals "Giant" and "Citizen Kane" in our popular lore as origin stories about how we came to be the people we are. In "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre," it's not the gold that destroys men's souls but greed; in "There Will Be Blood," the commodity that drives the greed is oil.

Anderson was in attendance and answered a few questions following the screening. The film, which is based on Upton Sinclair's Oil!, really only uses "about the first 150 pages of the novel," according to Anderson. "The book goes on to Hollywood and Washington" and was just too expansive for his purposes, though he said that those opening chapters contained Sinclair's clear descriptions of the workings of the derricks and the precipitous moods that hung over communities that were about to sell their land to the oil prospectors. These are images that are also conveyed vividly in the film. Additionally, Anderson's usual mix of stunning landscape shots and long takes blend with his close-up scrutiny of the hidden meanings of faces and comportment.

*SOME PLOT AND VAGUE ENDING SPOILERS - ALSO SPECIFIC SPOILERS FOR THE FIRST 15 MINUTES*
Daniel Day-Lewis is at his brilliant best as the story's Daniel Plainview, a man whose humanity diminishes as his fortunes increase. Never an exemplar of human kindness, Plainview becomes truly monstrous by film's end. Spanning three decades from 1898 to 1927, the approximately two hour and 40-minute film begins and ends with Plainview as a solitary figure. In fact, the first 15 minutes pass without any dialogue. Community is merely a useful tool for getting what Plainview wants and needs. Another constant nuisance is religion and false piety, represented by the character, Eli Sunday, played by Paul Dano. That the film stars none of the director's recurring repertory of actors is another intriguing element that lends a fresh sense to the undertaking.
*END SPOILERS*

Essential to the success of the movie is the original score by Jonny Greenwood, the Radiohead guitarist and BBC composer in residence. In addition to some uniquely haunting orchestral arrangements, there's this insistent string motif that sounds like the buzzing of an insect inside one's head, a sound that grows louder and more unavoidably distressing whenever soulless events are about to occur. Greenwood's astonishing score is sure to be one of the most remarked-on aspects of the movie.

"There Will Be Blood" was indeed an unusual choice to close out this year's Fantastic Fest, as Alamo Drafthouse Cinema founder and host Tim League was the first to admit. Though the film hardly belongs to the science fiction, fantasy, animation, and crime genres that attendees had been snacking on all week, League attested in his introduction that the film is undeniably "fantastic." League met Anderson this summer when the Drafthouse's Rolling Roadshow hosted an outdoor screening of "Boogie Nights" in the L.A. area and the director made a surprise appearance. The two became fast friends, which led to the Fantastic Fest screening. However, it took Ain't It Cool News' Harry Knowles to point out during the Q&A that Plainview was the "best monster" he had seen all week. Anderson responded that Dracula was in his thoughts as he was writing the screenplay. "There Will Be Blood" indeed.

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Post by: matt35mm on September 28, 2007, 02:49:56 AM
Holy Moley.
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Post by: Pubrick on September 28, 2007, 02:53:40 AM
Quote from: soixante on September 28, 2007, 02:38:00 AM
Anderson's usual mix of stunning landscape shots

who is she talking about?

and it's gonna hard to top gems like this for hype:

Quote from: soixante on September 28, 2007, 02:38:00 AM
Anderson's film is a true American saga - one that rivals "Giant" and "Citizen Kane" in our popular lore as origin stories about how we came to be the people we are.

that's about the greatest thing you could say about a movie besides making a cool sig out of its title.
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Post by: MacGuffin on September 28, 2007, 02:58:51 AM
Source: Hollywood Elsewhere

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhollywood-elsewhere.com%2Fimages%2Fcolumn%2F10107%2Fdanblood.jpg&hash=aaa0e1275c8817807070d2c95638961d3fdb3e54)

*READ AT OWN RISK*

HE reader Dan Brown saw Paul Thomas Anderson's There Will Be Blood at Austin's Fantastic Fest last night, and his first reaction is that Daniel Day Lewis will indeed get an Best Actor Oscar nomination. "The film really belongs to Lewis," he says. "He commands every frame he's in and is a pleasure to watch. It's a great character and he really sinks his teeth into it."

Which is an apt phrase given that Anderson, who attended the screening and sat for a q & a session afterwards, said "he was thinking of Dracula" when he wrote Lewis's character.

"The film is an awesome achievement," says Brown, "and a great step forward for Anderson. A lot of the criticism being directed at Wes Anderson lately does not apply to this Anderson, who is clearly moving in different directions with each new film but still has a strong visual style.

"I know the film won't be well received by everyone. The two and a half-hour running time might be off-putting for Middle American styrofoams but I was really into the movie right from the start." The most interesting sounding aspect, he adds, is that "the first 15 to 18 minutes of the film are dialogue-free."
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Post by: ElPandaRoyal on September 28, 2007, 05:12:11 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on September 28, 2007, 02:53:40 AM
Quote from: soixante on September 28, 2007, 02:38:00 AM
Anderson's usual mix of stunning landscape shots

who is she talking about?

This is a clear reference to Dirk Diggler's penis.

There will be some true excitement from now until the day I will finally get to see this.
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Post by: tpfkabi on September 28, 2007, 07:55:17 AM
the first 15 mins sound very Leone inspired - a la Once Upon a Time in the West - sound wise...and fly wise.
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Post by: modage on September 28, 2007, 09:21:23 AM
HOLY SHIT!
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Post by: Stefen on September 28, 2007, 09:27:46 AM
Tall shoes to fill after those comparisons. Please live up to them!
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on September 28, 2007, 09:30:36 AM
What's this?

Why can't I see this?

Why can't I SEE THIS?
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Post by: MacGuffin on September 28, 2007, 11:04:54 AM
Fantastic Fest Review: There Will Be Blood
Source: Scott Weinberg; Cinematical

*READ AT OWN BLA-BLA-BLA*

Oh sure, we've got Paul Thomas Anderson all figured out by now. After four very fine films -- Hard Eight, Boogie Nights, Magnolia and Punch-Drunk Love -- we've surely got the filmmaker's number by now: He makes strangely sweet and slyly witty ensemble pieces, right? So then what's he doing making an adaptation of Upton Sinclair's massive tome Oil!? A straight-faced period piece in which the most recognizable names are Daniel Day-Lewis and Paul Dano? This is not what we've come to expect from good ol' Paul T. Anderson!

And I suppose that's what makes the director's There Will Be Blood such a stunning surprise. It's more than a "departure" for the director; it's a monumental display of "evolution" that'll wow the established fans and impress a helluva lot more new ones. This is a dark, compelling and effortlessly engrossing film, one bolstered by a lead performance that ranks among the very best of Lewis' impressive career.

The film will most often be compared to Orson Welles' Citizen Kane, so I guess I can get the ball rolling on that particular crutch -- but it's also an apt comparison. Which is not to say that There Will Be Blood will necessarily be dissected and revered 75 years from now, but the stories are certainly similar enough. Anderson's film opens with a long passage of dialog-free footage: A lone man hacks his way through a mine using a pick-ax and some dynamite. The year is 1898, and Daniel Planview is about to become an oil man. We witness the man's unwavering resolve as he pulls himself from a vertical shaft after breaking his leg in a fall -- and if you think that accomplishment displayed some tenacity ... just wait.

The 160-minute film covers Plainview's journey from rock-scratcher to oil tycoon as it runs over the course of 29 years. And while it might come as no surprise to learn that Plainview loses more of his soul with every package of professional success, the way in which this potentially predictable story unfolds is nothing short of hypnotic. Although our hero(?) struggles through numerous adversities and obstacles, his main combatant comes in the form of a young preacher named Eli Sunday. The young man seems to be well-aware of Plainview's rather mercenary approach to the oil game, so when the two butt heads over the oil beneath the Sundays' soil -- their battle of wills becomes some sort of epic clash: The rise of wealth and industry versus the sanctity of religion and faith.

Only ... the wealthy industrialist is kind of a crook -- and the preacher is sort of a schemer. So already we're dealing with conflicts, contradictions and a supremely satisfying sense of ambiguity. We should be rooting against the businessman, but we don't. And although it seems logical to side with the aspiring young preacher, there's something about the kid we just don't like. So what I'm basically saying is this: There Will Be Blood boasts one hell of a fantastic screenplay.

And gosh what a beautiful film to look at. The turn-of-the-century Texas landscape has rarely looked this, well, real, and Anderson paints his canvas with some masterful strokes. The establishing shot that introduces the central town is nothing short of stunning, and there are numerous sequences that simply dazzle the eye. Cinematographer Robert Elswit -- a frequent PTA collaborator -- should be preparing his "it's an honor just to be nominated" speech right now. And the musical score by Radiohead guitarist Jonny Greenwood is more than a separate character in the film; the stunning score feels more like an aural Greek chorus.

Which brings us to the lead performance by the force of nature known as Daniel Day Lewis. One could cal his Plainview a cross between Charles Foster Kane and Al Swearengen: Driven to succeed, willing to cast aside anyone who becomes a liability, brutal yet human, undeniable nasty yet somehow worthy of some empathy. And Mr. Lewis delivers an anchor of a performance that's as multi-faceted as it is simply plain old entertaining. And I hate to overuse the Oscar predictions, but if there's a better 2007 lead performance ... I'd simply love to see it.

Easily one of the year's best films (so far), There Will Be Blood presents a side of Paul Thomas Anderson that we haven't really seen yet -- but it's proof positive that he's still one of the finest directors out there right now. You probably won't believe that this film came from the same man who directed (the awesome) Boogie Nights, and I mean that as a big compliment. It's just that different -- and just that damned good.
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Post by: Pubrick on September 28, 2007, 11:19:07 AM
stop saying CITIZEN KANE!!!

i am going to have a heart attack.

Quote from: Cinematical
one of the year's best films (so far)

haha,.
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Post by: Stefen on September 28, 2007, 11:26:06 AM
How spoilerish is Macs last post? Are we talking ugly lady turns out to be a cute dude, or Episode I flatulence?
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Post by: MacGuffin on September 28, 2007, 11:30:03 AM
Fantastic Fest: There Will Be Blood
Source: Matt Dentler; indieWIRE

Paul Thomas Anderson's epic There Will Be Blood had its first public screening tonight as the Closing Night Film (and as a super secret screening) of Fantastic Fest 2007. Make no mistake, this is an amazing work of art. As one of the Fantastic Fest programmers, I've known this film was coming our way for a while now, so don't chalk this up to sheer surprise or excitement or bias: There Will Be Blood is one of the best films of the year. Daniel Day-Lewis is obviously a major component of it, but Anderson's poetic treatment of the material cannot be dismissed. Plus, in a pleasant turn of events, co-star Paul Dano delivers a delicious and demented performance that could earn some serious award consideration a few months from now. God Bless P.T. Anderson, for making his fifth consecutive slam dunk. I'm just so stunned and impressed and shaken by this film.

More on the film (and the final days of Fantastic Fest) tomorrow... time for some sleep...
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on September 28, 2007, 11:57:06 AM
I can't keep reading this thread AND be expected to continue with my everyday life until this comes out. 
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Post by: Stefen on September 28, 2007, 12:02:09 PM
I was kind of indifferent to this flick until yesterday when all these reports started coming out. It's starting to sound like the GOAT.
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Post by: RegularKarate on September 28, 2007, 12:13:10 PM
I just unloaded about a hundred imaginary bullets into my head after reading Dentler's blog this morning.

I almost bought a badge this year, but convinced myself that it wouldn't be worth it... I mean why THE FUCK would they play something like this?  And PT was in town!!!????  My dream of finally meeting him TOTALLY shot down.

If anyone needs me, I'll be at the bottom of the river.
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Post by: Stefen on September 28, 2007, 12:19:22 PM
RK, were you at Butt-numb-athon when Magnolia played? At least I think it played at one of them before it's release.
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Post by: Pozer on September 28, 2007, 12:51:33 PM
Quote from: Ghostboy on September 28, 2007, 02:26:19 AM
It totally played. Goddamn it.

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Post by: Marty McSuperfly on September 28, 2007, 01:13:21 PM
Fantastic Fest: There Will Be Blood
Source: Matt Dentler; indieWIRE

There Will Be Spoilers...

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For the first 15 minutes or so, there is no dialogue. Just men at work, and a swelling violin by Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood. And then, oil! Before long, Day-Lewis' Daniel Plainview is doing what he can to uncover more of it, at any price. This leads to the discovery of a small community sitting "on an ocean of oil." Plainview sets up shop, but ends up warring against Dano's Eli Sunday, a young evangelist out to preach God's will and save souls. It soon becomes a battle between the two enterprising men, and each actor explodes with charisma and terror. Anderson is the architect of some great American stories, and this is one of his finest. Loosely based on Upton Sinclair's book, Oil!, the film is all Anderson. There are flourishes of Stanley Kubrick, Terrence Malick, and Robert Altman (to whom the film is dedicated) but Anderson steps up his game as a master filmmaker beautifully telling a very scary story.

It was a great way to end the third annual Fantastic Fest. I think it was a great year. And, at the Closing Night Party, fellow organizers Tim League and Harry Knowles both looked at me and we just had a moment of pride. Here are some pictures I took in the final few days
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Post by: Stefen on September 28, 2007, 01:19:44 PM
HAHAHA it just doesn't stop!

PTA = mix between Kubrick, Malick, and Altman.

Oh, please do not set me up to be let down!!!!
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Post by: modage on September 28, 2007, 01:23:39 PM
i have never been more excited to see a film. 

and not to wish ill of my fellow xixaxers but i would die of jealousy if one of you made it to this screening.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on September 28, 2007, 01:37:50 PM
Quote from: Stefen on September 28, 2007, 01:19:44 PM
PTA = mix between Kubrick, Malick, and Altman.

I kinda cringed when I read that. I understand Malick and even Altman to a certain degree, but people name drop Kubrick all the time for films he has no reason to be associated with. I'm not saying PTA couldn't utilize him, but I'll have to wait and see. It's a tough thing to pull off.
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Post by: Pozer on September 28, 2007, 01:57:40 PM
besides what p quoted earlier, this is my favorite thing said about it so far:

*1st shot spoiler tho*
And gosh what a beautiful film to look at. The turn-of-the-century Texas landscape has rarely looked this, well, real, and Anderson paints his canvas with some masterful strokes. The establishing shot that introduces the central town is nothing short of stunning, and there are numerous sequences that simply dazzle the eye. Cinematographer Robert Elswit -- a frequent PTA collaborator -- should be preparing his "it's an honor just to be nominated" speech right now. And the musical score by Radiohead guitarist Jonny Greenwood is more than a separate character in the film; the stunning score feels more like an aural Greek chorus.
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Post by: Fernando on September 28, 2007, 02:04:18 PM
One thing is for sure, we can cancel next year's xaxies because CMBB will take EVERYTHING.

Also, I won't read any articles/reviews until late december.
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Post by: MacGuffin on September 28, 2007, 04:04:12 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate on September 28, 2007, 12:13:10 PM
I just unloaded about a hundred imaginary bullets into my head after reading Dentler's blog this morning.

I almost bought a badge this year, but convinced myself that it wouldn't be worth it... I mean why THE FUCK would they play something like this?  And PT was in town!!!????  My dream of finally meeting him TOTALLY shot down.

If anyone needs me, I'll be at the bottom of the river.

Which is ironic because when I posted the rumor I mainly did it for you, thinking if anyone would go it would be you.
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Post by: tpfkabi on September 28, 2007, 04:16:42 PM
so if this is ready now, the wait is purely for awards purposes?
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Post by: picolas on September 28, 2007, 04:47:29 PM
mother of god. i'm scared to open this thread now. the anticipation is turning into an anxious 'i want it NOW' kind of feeling.
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Post by: JG on September 28, 2007, 04:59:59 PM
this is unbelievable. 

Quote from: Cinematical
one of the year's best films (so far)

best "(so far)" ever. (so far).   

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Post by: MacGuffin on September 28, 2007, 06:16:36 PM
Quote from: bigideas on September 28, 2007, 04:16:42 PM
so if this is ready now, the wait is purely for awards purposes?

The studios want to promote a Paul WS Anderson vs Paul Thomas Anderson Christmas smackdown.
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Post by: MacGuffin on September 28, 2007, 07:03:46 PM
There Will Be Blood
Bottom Line: Daniel Day-Lewis stuns in Paul Thomas Anderson's saga of a soul-dead oil man.
By John DeFore; Hollywood Reporter
Oct 1, 2007

*READ - RISK*

Fantastic Fest

AUSTIN -- Both an epic and a miniature, Paul Thomas Anderson's "There Will Be Blood" uses the fewest possible brush strokes, spread across a vast canvas, to paint a portrait of greed at the beginning of the American century. Built around another powerhouse performance by Daniel Day-Lewis, it's a certain awards contender and will be a strong draw for serious moviegoers.

Partially shot in Marfa, Texas, and stretching across three decades -- just enough time for an infant to rise up and defy his father -- it begs comparison to another Marfa production, "Giant." "Blood" has none of that film's melodramatic sprawl, though. Instead, it pares allegory-friendly material down to the elementals. It shows not the birth of the American oil business but the origin of a certain kind of oil man -- self-made, hands-on, destined for great wealth but doomed to not enjoy it -- then pits this capitalistic force of nature against its Bible-thumping mirror image, hinting at the culture-shaping sibling rivalry between the influence of God and of Mammon in America.

Day-Lewis plays Daniel Plainview, a prospector introduced in a wordless sequence showing his progression from heavy-bearded miner to civilized man with prospects: In the entire first reel, the only dialogue we hear is a muttered "there she is" as Plainview finds his buried treasure. The soundtrack is dominated by wilding clouds of strings that bestow on petroleum the mysterious power of Stanley Kubrick's famous obelisk.

That music, by Radiohead guitarist Jonny Greenwood, is captivating and sometimes intense, greatly contributing to the sense that tectonic forces lie beneath the drama.

The film then makes up for lost time as Plainview addresses a gathering of country landowners in hopes of talking his way onto their property. In Day-Lewis' hands, the spiel becomes a John Huston-ish seduction, a velvet rumble about how qualified he is to suck oil from their dirt and transmute it to wealth for them and their children. When his listeners hesitate before taking the bait, Plainview refuses them a second chance, moving briskly to the next-best prospect. Eventually, he lands a territory with vast, empire-building potential, and the film settles down there, watching him struggle to exploit the discovery.

The film isn't as bloody as its title suggests, but from the start it makes the most of what violence it contains. The dangers of digging for oil are starkly depicted, and at one point -- during a hair-raising sequence in which a just-struck gusher catches fire -- Plainview's young adopted son takes a fall that costs him his hearing.

That loss and a more mysterious family matter are all we see of Plainview's personal life; he seemingly exists to do nothing but find and sell oil. An obstacle arrives in the person of Paul Dano's Eli Sunday, a self-styled man of God hoping to funnel as much as possible of his congregation's impending wealth into glorifying the Almighty. Barely old enough to shave, Sunday spellbinds listeners with frenzied exorcisms and threatens to steer his flock away from the man who needs their land.

Director Anderson's critics might not know what to do with this picture, which has none of the attention-grabbing flourishes of earlier films -- no hailstorms of frogs or deus ex machina pianos here. The closest it gets to self-conscious showiness is its closing scene, a confrontation as memorably strange as the fireworks-popping, "Jessie's Girl"-belting drug deal in "Boogie Nights." Its setting is as visually spare (a highlight of Jack Fisk's brilliant production design) as the other was decadent and cluttered, and eventually the scene makes good on the title's promise -- but only after offering a virtuoso humiliation to mirror one Plainview suffers earlier in the story.

Even here, though, what could be mere showboating serves as the last step on the path "Blood" started out on: drawing us slowly and with steadily increasing horror into the bitter worldview of a man whose name suggests he sees the world for what it is.

THERE WILL BE BLOOD
Paramount Vantage
Ghoulardi Film Co./Paramount Vantage/Miramax Films/Scott Rudin Prods.
Credits:
Director-screenwriter: Paul Thomas Anderson
Based on the novel by: Upton Sinclair
Producers: Paul Thomas Anderson, Daniel Lupi, Joanne Sellar
Executive producers: Scott Rudin, Eric Schlosser
Director of photography: Robert Elswit
Production designer: Jack Fisk
Music: Jonny Greenwood
Costume designer: Mark Bridges
Editors: Tatiana S. Riegel, Dylan Tichenor
Cast:
Daniel Plainview: Daniel Day-Lewis
Eli Sunday: Paul Dano
H.W.: Dillion Freasier
Fletcher Hamilton: Ciaran Hinds
Running time -- 158 minutes
MPAA rating: R
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Post by: Pubrick on September 28, 2007, 08:38:44 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on September 28, 2007, 07:03:46 PM
no hailstorms of frogs or deus ex machina pianos here

it's a harmonium.

and i strongly urge everyone to avoid the above article because it is ALL SPOILERS, huge ones, specific ones about the final minutes of the movie. it even ends with the credits, like you've just seen the movie. it really pisses me off now when ppl can't review things without giving everything away. especially a movie that isn't out yet, why talk about specific scenes or the ending of the movie?? complete asshole behaviour.

years of reading the Lost thread without actually reading anything has helped me develop voluntary amnesia. unless you can master this weird form of senility, do not attempt to navigate past the spoiler warnings.

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Post by: Stefen on September 28, 2007, 09:20:28 PM
We need to nominate someone to be a xixax guinea pig. Someone who's, I don't want to say dumb, but not so bright, so spoilers won't bother them, but they can distinguish spoilers from non spoilers and warn us all for situations like this.

I nominate Kal.
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Harry says Paul Thomas Anderson's THERE WILL BE BLOOD is a brilliant, masterful film! Daniel Day Lewis owns this year's Oscar!
Source: AICN

As one of the programmers of FANTASTIC FEST, working hand in hand with Tim League, Matt Dentler and all the others – it's not often when you know you've hit the jackpot. About 3 weeks ago, we realized that we were going to be the first place on Planet Earth to screen THERE WILL BE BLOOD, based upon Upton Sinclair's novel OIL! and adapted for the screen by Paul Thomas Anderson.

As a genre festival – it didn't entirely seem appropriate that the film would play, but Tim, Dentler and I discussed – at length – what this festival means to us. The tag line, "A Film Festival With The Boring Parts Cut Out" was coined by me. Our goal is to create a film festival made up of fantastic experiences, fantastic screenings and fantastic guests. Playing a film like PERSEPOLIS – an animated tale about growing up during the last 30 or so years in Iran... Doesn't necessarily fit, but the film is FANTASTIC.

However, as I watched THERE WILL BE BLOOD last night for the very first time – I realized that to me, THERE WILL BE BLOOD embodies everything that I want from a film at Fantastic Fest. This is a film about the dark places in men's souls. It is a film at the highest possible quality – comparable to many of my favorite films of all time. Movies about monsters on quests like CITIZEN KANE, TREASURE OF SIERRE MADRE, GONE WITH THE WIND, GIANT, OLDBOY, THE GODFATHER and TAXI DRIVER.

When Upton Sinclair wrote OIL! – it was when he discovered how greed can destroy a community, here – PTA has created a masterpiece.

*BEGIN SPOILERS*

It begins simply – a lone man, digging down. Swinging his sparking pick-axe carving with a desperate drive to find gold. He places a stick of dynamite into a crack he made – lights it and gets out of the hole, trying desperately to pull his tools up with him. The blast goes off – he anxiously tries to make his way into the hole, only to fall and break his leg. There – at the bottom of this man made pit – he finds some gold. He stuffs some of the ore into his shirt and begins the desperate one legged climb out of the hole – pushing himself on his back, to where? We cut to him laying on his back inside a building where he's selling his ore – it's 1897 and he just made $347.

Next we cut back to the same hole – this time he has men working with him. This time, it's a few years later – and they're digging, by hand... for oil. Daniel Day Lewis' character of Daniel Plainview is there in the pit – alongside another man digging – when the rigging above falls killing the other man. Daniel now has a son, his partner's son. Shortly after, they strike oil. It's hauled up by buckets. The buckets poured into a pool up on the surface to be placed in barrels for sale.

Through all of this – the men do not speak, they're working with a determination. There is a drive in Daniel Plainview that is evident – he is not afraid of hard labor or pain. This is a man that will claim his fortune from the Earth. He will dig and claim it as his own. Like Dobbs or Scarlett O'Hara – he will never go hungry again. He's been there and he will not go back.

We cut to a few years later – his adopted son and Daniel are dressed nicely addressing a community that has had a well come in. He's working to gain their trust to allow him to develop the strike – the community is too excitable – each neighbor making demands, a cacophony of greed – Daniel leaves telling them, he would not develop their claim even if they gave it to him as a gift. This community had turned to wolves, and he is looking for sheep.

Daniel has one strong strike that's paying him $5,000 a week in Oil production. But it is not enough for this man. He has a competition in him. He is driven to succeed without parallel. He begrudges paying for shipping, he begrudges the land owners that sit upon gold that they are not willing to work for to mine. HE made his wealth with his own hands – and if these people are too complacent, too lazy and too ignorant to work for their own riches – why should he hand them to them?

The contempt for humanity is palpable. In many ways the film, above all others, that this film reminds me of is Billy Wilder's brilliant ACE IN THE HOLE (aka THE BIG CARNIVAL) – as it happens, earlier this day I was watching this classic Kirk Douglas movie on TCM – it seems the movie gods were smiling upon me – to make the comparison so ready, willing and available. In that film, Kirk Douglas is a man that is determined, no matter what, to use men as he saw fit to get his way back to the top. His actions are pre-meditated and cruel. He twists people, playing on their greed, fears and hopes to orchestrate his own success.

Daniel Plainview is of the same cloth. He's a man that believes in revenge, that gives into anger and allows it to drive his success. He sees the world as a hard bitter cruel place where you have to be hard bitter and cruel to succeed. The only other person on the planet he loves is his son – but even there, he uses the image of his son to just gain the trust of others. He needs them to see him as a family man, because it's easier to trust a family man.

His every action is premeditated.

That said – he is always ever that man we saw at the beginning of the film pounding his fortune out by his own blood, sweat and tears. As Plainview is clued into a community sitting upon an "ocean of oil" he sees his chance to be everything he's ever wanted to be. A powerful man, a rich man – a man dependent upon no man. A chance to be independent, wealthy and successful.

This community has been untapped. He is the sole wolf hunting this community of sheep. He clues his son in on it all. Teaching him how to be as cut-throat as he. The film that follows exposes the greed of a "prophet" played by Paul Dano with the exact right level of Elmer Gantry-ism. You can see the ambition he has. The profit of being a prophet. More than that – you can see the contempt that Plainview has for what he considers a sly con man.

As tragedy hits Daniel's life, as obstacles come, he brushes them to the side – it's important that he win. He has to tie up the entire community to own the ocean of oil beneath it – then he needs to tie up the land he needs to build a pipeline.

What is it that makes this film utterly brilliant?

Well – as with all fantastic movies – it's a combination of talents rising to the occasion.

First and foremost is Paul Thomas Anderson. He set out to make a film like TREASURE OF SIERRE MADRE – and he did. His decisions with sound, image, dialogue and direction were all absolutely masterful. I know that's easy to say, but his work here is just perfect. Like – at this one moment when two characters are brought back together after an amazingly bombastic scene... he serves it all in long shot – just hearing the voices. Not giving us the typical close-ups – rather letting us distill the emotion from the voice of Daniel Day Lewis in the scene. It's incredibly powerful.

Did I mention Daniel Day Lewis? The man is in nearly every scene in the film. It is a legendary performance. Iconic and powerful. It is his absolute best work, which is saying something as he has never ever been anything other than great. Here though – he's given a role that every great actor waits patiently for. Like Bogart and Dobbs. Like Brando and The Godfather. Like DeNiro with Raging Bull. Here you have an actor so alive, so vital and so naturally bigger than life that I was left in awe of the performance. This is not just the best performance of the year to date, but one of the great performance period.

Robert Elswit's photography is breathtaking. Amongst my favorite aspects of the film is the score, which was brilliantly created by Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood. The score is a direct echo of Daniel Plainview's soul... At times classical- quaint, at other times experimental and atonal - symbolizing the noise in his soul or echoing the pounding of the drilling for oil. The score and the use of it added towards the intensity of the experience.

A fellow critic at the screening began comparing the film to CITIZEN KANE, GIANT and other classics – it was nice to read that – because it meant I wasn't the only one thinking that.

This film doesn't hit till late December – but I'm telling you – when it does, hold on to your hat. It's a gusher!
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Post by: pumba on September 29, 2007, 12:57:09 AM
shiver mee timbers!
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Post by: Pubrick on September 29, 2007, 12:58:43 AM
Quote from: just sparrow on September 28, 2007, 11:57:06 AM
I can't keep reading this thread AND be expected to continue with my everyday life until this comes out. 

yeah, i'm not gonna get anything done in the next few months.

Quote from: harry knowles
Movies about monsters on quests like .... GONE WITH THE WIND

scarlett o'hara?

Quote from: MacGuffin on September 28, 2007, 11:57:28 PM
It's a gusher!

tiana lynn?
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Post by: ElPandaRoyal on September 29, 2007, 05:24:39 AM
I'm gonna share a sad moment of my pathetic little life for your reading and entertainment pleasure:

Last night, I had a dream. And I'm someone who never, I repeat, never remembers his dreams. But last night, I dreamed the tatle of this damn movie was changed because it was considerer inapropriate, so they changed it into something more generic (which I don't really remember, but it sucked). Jesus Christ, I mean, what the fuck is this? A dream about a title change in a movie? I really need to get a life...

I can still see the image of the poster with the new words in it in my dream... sad sad sad...
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Post by: modage on September 29, 2007, 10:13:07 AM
Quote from: Stefen on September 28, 2007, 09:20:28 PM
We need to nominate someone to be a xixax guinea pig. Someone who's, I don't want to say dumb, but not
how about someone who has already read the script and therefore can go through the article and just give us nicely edited bits of non-spoiler passages?
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Post by: Stefen on September 29, 2007, 12:04:49 PM
Quote from: modage on September 29, 2007, 10:13:07 AM
Quote from: Stefen on September 28, 2007, 09:20:28 PM
We need to nominate someone to be a xixax guinea pig. Someone who's, I don't want to say dumb, but not
how about someone who has already read the script and therefore can go through the article and just give us nicely edited bits of non-spoiler passages?

Macs doing an excellent job.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on September 29, 2007, 02:14:19 PM
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George Hickenlooper (r.) and Paul Thomas Anderson (l.) at the Alamo Draft House in Austin last Thursday night after that already-fabled screening of There Will Be Blood. Hickenlooper had just come from an adjacent-theater screening of Mayor of the Sunset Strip. Sissy Spacek joined them soon after and, says Hickenlooper, "kept telling me how it was one of the most extraordinary films she had ever seen...she seemed completely blown away by it." Spacek has been married to Blood's production designer Jack Fisk since 1974.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: tpfkabi on September 29, 2007, 10:37:33 PM
almost 3 freaking months... :(

(if someone goes to a Q&A screening please ask if there is actual Radiohead video footage for We Suck Young Blood).
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Marty McSuperfly on September 30, 2007, 12:48:42 PM
I'm afraid not...

Cigs and red vines interview with PTA in 2005:

With Jeff and myself both being big Radiohead fans, we've heard rumblings about a Lumiere music video for "We Suck Young Blood" shot in studio with them during their recording sessions for Hail To The Thief. What was the video like, how did it come about and will it ever see the light of day?
I'm sorry to say that it doesn't exist. I visited them one day in the studio and brought an old Lumiere camera down to play with - but we never shot anything. That would have been great and should happen someday. If you listen to that song, it would fit nicely with that Nosferatu-feeling you can get with that particular camera -- that song has dracula written all over it.

Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on September 30, 2007, 01:27:09 PM
hasn't this has been pointed out several times in recent months?
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on September 30, 2007, 01:31:27 PM
Quote from: The Perineum Falcon on September 30, 2007, 01:27:09 PM
hasn't this has been pointed out several times in recent months?

Yes, and it's always in response to Big Ideas asking the same question and getting it answered the same way EVERY TIME.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: tpfkabi on September 30, 2007, 02:10:08 PM
Quote from: Stefen on September 30, 2007, 01:31:27 PM
Quote from: The Perineum Falcon on September 30, 2007, 01:27:09 PM
hasn't this has been pointed out several times in recent months?

Yes, and it's always in response to Big Ideas asking the same question and getting it answered the same way EVERY TIME.

you're partly correct. this is the first time that my question has been answered with a direct quote from Paul saying that it does not exist. everything else has been quotes where the actual existence was left up in the air - probably the same quotes that led to this being asked to Paul in the first place.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on September 30, 2007, 02:47:30 PM
It's all good.

Which one do you want me to use when you ask the question again?
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on September 30, 2007, 02:57:55 PM
Quote from: bigideas on September 30, 2007, 02:10:08 PMthis is the first time that my question has been answered with a direct quote from Paul saying that it does not exist.

Second time. Same PTA quote, Radiohead thread:

http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=9026.msg249538#msg249538
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pozer on September 30, 2007, 06:08:46 PM
Quote from: modage on September 29, 2007, 10:13:07 AM
Quote from: Stefen on September 28, 2007, 09:20:28 PM
We need to nominate someone to be a xixax guinea pig. Someone who's, I don't want to say dumb, but not
how about someone who has already read the script and therefore can go through the article and just give us nicely edited bits of non-spoiler passages?

stuff like this is all i need to see:

Quote from: Har Bear
Did I mention Daniel Day Lewis? The man is in nearly every scene in the film. It is a legendary performance. Iconic and powerful. It is his absolute best work, which is saying something as he has never ever been anything other than great. Here though – he's given a role that every great actor waits patiently for. Like Bogart and Dobbs. Like Brando and The Godfather. Like DeNiro with Raging Bull. Here you have an actor so alive, so vital and so naturally bigger than life that I was left in awe of the performance. This is not just the best performance of the year to date, but one of the great performance period.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: tpfkabi on September 30, 2007, 06:18:48 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on September 30, 2007, 02:57:55 PM
Quote from: bigideas on September 30, 2007, 02:10:08 PMthis is the first time that my question has been answered with a direct quote from Paul saying that it does not exist.

Second time. Same PTA quote, Radiohead thread:

http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=9026.msg249538#msg249538

you got me there.
sorry i cannot remember every post i make on here, but be damn sure you will remind me of it.

why weren't you there while i was taking my recording studio classes that i failed? would have been great study partners i'm sure.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pozer on September 30, 2007, 06:43:31 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate on September 28, 2007, 12:13:10 PM
I just unloaded about a hundred imaginary bullets into my head after reading Dentler's blog this morning.

I almost bought a badge this year, but convinced myself that it wouldn't be worth it... I mean why THE FUCK would they play something like this?  And PT was in town!!!????  My dream of finally meeting him TOTALLY shot down.

If anyone needs me, I'll be at the bottom of the river.

:yabbse-sad:

Quote from: someone at aint it cool
I've talked shit about most of the other secret screenings held at the Fantastic Fest this year, but I'm not on this one.

THERE WILL BE BLOOD is a breathtaking, mammoth masterpiece. It's the best film I've seen so far this year, and is one of the best movies ever made. It's absolutely brilliant.

Daniel Day Lewis isn't an actor, he's a goddamn force of nature. To watch him on screen in this movie is to watch one of the greatest performances of this generation.

Paul Dano is equally as wonderful, keeping his feet while being in the frame with Day Lewis. His Eli character is achingly naive, but fierce when need be.

Harry should attest, EFFING QUASI SPOILS that final showdown between Eli and Daniel is the stuff of fucking legend. /SPOILS
I can't say enough great things about this movie.

But I will say this. I'm a HUGE PTA fan. And to have him inches from me, talking to me about movies was as close to a dream come true as I can imagine. I never thought I'd meet him, much less in Austin. It was a highlight of my life and of the fest.

Thank you Harry and Tim. See ya next year.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: RegularKarate on October 01, 2007, 02:58:19 PM
Hey Pozer, how about you find a quote from the dude who married that girl I never got with in High School too?
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Fernando on October 01, 2007, 03:05:57 PM
Just a suggestion for all the ppl that will post articles/reviews, please leave some space between the SPOILER warning and the text, because even though I never intended to read any of them, I read the first lousy sentence by accident of one and already ruined something important (the first fucking sentece, Jesus!); I'm with P on this one, can't these guys write something without giving away every little fucking thing?

Thanks!
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on October 01, 2007, 03:08:29 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate on October 01, 2007, 02:58:19 PM
Hey Pozer, how about you find a quote from the dude who married that girl I never got with in High School too?

He can do you one better.

Pozer, show RK a picture of the kid you had with her.

*fingers crossed for first xixax sex tape*
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on October 04, 2007, 08:59:24 PM
Source: cig & red vines

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa3.vox.com%2F6a00e3989c64e5000100e398ae32030003-pi&hash=ccb54c70820c096fc944bdac043a9503bc561af5)


alamo screening video
texas geek.tv has posted a 20 minute video of paul thomas anderson's intro and q&a for the recent 'there will be blood' screening at the alamo draft house.


http://texasgeektv.vox.com/library/post/tgtv005-paul-thomas-anderson.html
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: The Red Vine on October 04, 2007, 10:50:58 PM
Great to watch. Not a lot of new information, but just watching his mannerisms is fun. This is probably the most nervous and tongue tied I've ever seen him.

Now I'll be kicking myself for the next 3 months for not attending.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: picolas on October 04, 2007, 11:26:49 PM
great watch aside from mother effing quasi-spoils!!!

skip 11:13-11:17 if you want no inkling of the ending

mothereffer said no spoilers..
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: 72teeth on October 05, 2007, 12:20:49 AM
Quote from: picolas on October 04, 2007, 11:26:49 PM
11:13-11:17

... i thought he was talking about drac
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: picolas on October 05, 2007, 12:35:33 AM
he says "especially at the end ____________________" and describes an image from the end.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on October 05, 2007, 10:47:03 PM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftheenvelope.latimes.com%2Fmedia%2Fphoto%2F2007-10%2F32976879.jpg&hash=686a450e5dd76f453b4196ff2956c7061689549d)

Contenders attempt to stifle the hype
In his Envelope debut, Pete Hammond surveys the field as Hollywood hopefuls take cover.
By Pete Hammond, The Envelope

Didn't we just do this thing?

Though our new weekly column here at The Envelope is beginning today, the "awards season" has never really stopped. It's year round now, a 24/7, 52-weeks-a-year byproduct of Hollywood greed and need. There can never be too many awards! The Oscars show on Feb. 25 was barely off the air when New Line, first out of the gate on Feb. 28, hosted a reception and 17-minute sneak preview screening of its '07 Golden Globe and Academy hopeful "Hairspray" at the Clarity in Beverly Hills, where producer Craig Zadan was also talking up his Jack Nicholson-Morgan Freeman Christmas release, "The Bucket List."

But now, as things begin to get serious, a little game is being played called "managing expectations." One consultant, knowing this column was starting, pleaded with us not to anoint their holiday hopeful (an early front-runner) as an early front-runner.

"If you mention the movie just don't say we're leading anything," the consultant begged.

Another savvy campaigner, having just seen a preview of a late December entry, waxed rhapsodic about the film's attributes and called the film absolute perfection, a "real contender," but then warned us not to say a word. Your secret is safe here!

Smart academy consultants -- battered by this year-round Internet and mainstream media interest in the hunt for awards -- are starting to act like CIA operatives, doing everything they can to prevent their prime contenders from peaking and burning out before they even open.

"Front-runner? Us? You must be on crack!"

Sad examples in recent years of highly touted movies failing to live up to endless hype have taught the pros who live and breathe awards a valuable lesson. Shut up and let the movie play, stupid!

If pure advance buzz determined big winners then the filmmakers behind "The Majestic," "Angela's Ashes," "The Crucible" and last year's "The Good German," to name a few, would have been pushing their Globes aside to make room for their Oscars.

Final results in the last few years have proved that when it comes to winning best picture, mum's the word for the early part of any campaign.

"Million Dollar Baby," Clint Eastwood's winner in 2005, was known as the stealth entry, not even announced for the Warner Bros. release schedule until Sept. 30, 2004; "Crash," 2006's winner, opened in May 2005 and was content to just get itself seen and let everything else fall by the wayside -- including the seemingly inevitable victor, "Brokeback Mountain," which began its front-runner status at early fall festivals and had nowhere to go but down by the time final academy ballots were due. Exactly one year ago this week, Warner Bros. publicity execs were proclaiming that their new Martin Scorsese film, "The Departed," was just a commercial movie, "not really an Oscar film."

Campaign consultants downplayed its chances, Scorsese stayed under the radar (unlike his ill-advised accessibility during the "Gangs of New York" and "The Aviator" seasons), and what happened? The two words that weren't even supposed to be whispered together, "Departed" and "Oscar," were uttered.

Academy members like to discover movies on their own. No one wants "The Shipping News" stuffed down their throat and told this is the movie you will vote for.

Unfortunately, with academy ballots now going out at the end of the year and other awards groups voting much earlier than that, there isn't a whole lot of time to get these movies seen, especially those November and December releases, so the studios and distributors are walking a thin line.

Festival exposure, a necessity for many films to set themselves apart from the pack, can be a double-edged sword.

The Toronto and Telluride reception for "Juno" was euphoric, but can media infatuation for Jason Reitman's crowd-pleasing but small comic gem over-inflate awards voters' expectations by the time it finally begins a limited run Dec. 14?

The brilliantly funny and whimsical "Lars and the Real Girl" also was big at the Toronto fest exposure. But executives at Sidney Kimmel Entertainment, which financed the film, are wisely taking it slow, preferring to let "Lars" begin its run Oct. 12.

They're hoping the positive word-of-mouth it generates among academy types and other awards-givers will justify the expense of a full-blown campaign.

In a sign that the strategy may just be working, an overflowing Monday night screening of "Lars" for the SAG nominating committee, followed by a Q&A with star Ryan Gosling and director Craig Gillespie at the Landmark Theatre, was rapturously received.

Last weekend's first screening of Disney's Thanksgiving release "Enchanted," resulted in early critical huzzahs for the animated/live-action fantasy flick and immediate awards buzz for Amy Adams, a past nominee for "Junebug," who had not been on anyone's radar for this picture.

Even Disney staffers seem (pleasantly) surprised that she is suddenly emerging on best actress lists. Or perhaps there are some pretty good poker players on Walt's Burbank lot playing the game of lowered expectations better than anyone else this season.

Hotly anticipated Oscar prospects without previous festival exposure, like "The Kite Runner" and "Lions for Lambs," seem to be carefully picking and choosing how, when and to whom they will be screened with their release dates looming just a month away.

Universal's powerful "American Gangster," on the other hand, is opening Nov. 2 and seems to have a different tact by screening every single week, putting it out there for all to see whenever they want.

Two films being jointly released by Miramax and Paramount Vantage are also employing intriguing strategies. Joel and Ethan Coen's "No Country for Old Men" debuted in May at Cannes to overall great reviews (if no prizes). But despite that success, the film has so far had intentionally few screenings (outside of the Toronto Fest) for Los Angeles and New York press.

Award strategists hope that keeping a distance between its Cannes debut and "No Country's" limited Nov. 9 openings six months later will help avoid overkill and maintain momentum as an academy contender.

The same two companies teamed on "There Will Be Blood" which doesn't begin its limited runs until Dec. 26 but inadvertently made a splash as the unannounced closer at Harry Knowles' Fantastic Fest in Austin last week.

Vantage didn't have this Texas stop in its master plan, but director Paul Thomas Anderson chose to do it because of his relationship with Knowles (who raved about the film).

In fact, Vantage had barely shown it anywhere (except a small tastemaker/ long lead screening at the Paramount Theatre a couple of weeks ago).

The Texas response, where a lot of the impressive film was shot, was incredible -- perhaps excessively enthusiastic, as often happens at these things because of the festival-goers and Internet bloggers who knew they were the "chosen ones."

One person connected to "Blood" told us they were thrown for a loop but that the early praise is helping them shape the campaign.

Comparisons to "Citizen Kane," possibly the most influential film ever made, were thrown about with abandon.

Texas stringers from both Variety and the Hollywood Reporter raved online (causing consternation among real critics at both trades who have yet to see it) and now Vantage has to uh ... manage expectations before beginning press screenings (probably in November, according to a studio source) for the movie.

Orson Welles, if not William Randolph Hearst himself, may have to fear the onslaught of praise.


And like we said, it's only just beginning.

Ain't it cool? It's ready, set, go for the gold as The Season begins in earnest.

Just keep it under your hat for the time being.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: tpfkabi on October 10, 2007, 04:10:10 PM
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/46284-greenwoods-ibloodi-score-to-be-released-on-cd

Greenwood's Blood Score to Be Released on CD

It is, after all, international "Don't Talk or Think About Anything But Radiohead Day" (week? month?). Call it kismet, then, that there would be a bit of non-In Rainbows Radiohead news today: Jonny Greenwood's score for There Will Be Blood, the latest film from Paul Thomas Anderson, will be released on CD December 18 via Nonesuch.

Two of the album's ten tracks-- "Henry Plainview" and "Proven Lands"-- are in fact excerpts from Greenwood's orchestral, BBC-comissioned "Popcorn Superhet Receiver" piece. The rest, however, is fresh Jonny-- yep, the same dude you've spent roughly 1/5 of the last 13 hours or so fawning over.

There Will Be Blood opens in limited release in the U.S. December 26, with the rest of the world to follow shortly thereafter. As for Jonny, well, he'll be busy fashioning those discboxes out of his own blood, sweat, and floppy hair from now 'til the new year. It's then that-- as you're aware-- Greenwood will prep the U.S. debut of his "Superhet" work for the Wordless Music Series.

Thanks to reader M.S. Markham for the tip.

There Will Be Blood:

01 Open Spaces
02 Future Markets
03 Prospectors Arrive
04 Eat Him By His Own Light
05 Henry Plainview (excerpt from "Popcorn Superhet Receiver")
06 There Will Be Blood
07 Oil
08 Proven Lands (excerpt from "Popcorn Superhet Receiver")
09 HW / Hope of New Fields
10 Smear
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Marty McSuperfly on October 12, 2007, 12:08:43 AM
From: Hollywood Elsewhere

A tough-minded exhibition guy from another continent says that "'awesome'' is the only word I can think of to describe Paul Thomas Anderson's There Will Be Blood," which he saw yesterday.

"As someone who fell giddily for Boogie Nights only to be frustrated by the excesses of Magnolia and disappointed in many of the indulgences of Punch Drunk Love, this new film does more than restore PTA's stature as one of the most exciting American filmmakers -- it puts him in the leagues of the masters.

"Blood is two hours and 45 minutes of cinematic heroin. It's a frightening, overwhelming, punch-to-the-gut work -- as strong as anything that John Huston or Stanley Kubrick ever made.

"Too much will be written and said about the accomplishments of Daniel Day Lewis's performance to start drooling here. Let's just say that the Best Actor Oscar is his to lose, not that I imagine he'd care. Paul Dano, in a difficult role, matches him scene for scene -- the breakout performance of the year. And Johnny Greenwood's score is still giving me chills.

"The film is probably too grim and narratively uncompromising to break out commercially beyond the realms of where Jesse James aspires (and may not reach). But it deserves to, and will, do better than that film and certainly is more than just an actor's showcase like Last King of Scotland was. $20 t0 $30 million is possible, assuming the big awards come through? For my money Day-Lewis pushes the potential of the film beyond the art milieu.


VAGUE SPOILER COMING UP. YET ANOTHER HUGE FUCKING ENDING SPOILER, SWIPE IF YOU'RE AN IDIOT.......





"I can forgive the film for a shocking, visceral final scene that teeters on the verge of hysteria and unfortunately dives right off the edge. And also for that same scene's logic-defying continuity problems.





SPOILER OVER......

"Despite those minor flaws, this is a cinematic and artistic experience that few other American films have delivered in recent memory."


Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pubrick on October 12, 2007, 12:29:35 AM
fucking reviewers STOP WRITING ABOUT THE ENDING AT LEAST UNTIL IT'S OUT. SERIOUSLY WHO IS THAT INFORMATION FOR???? NO ONE HAS SEEN IT! IDIOTS!., god. that shit is fast becoming my number one most hated thing. period.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Fernando on October 12, 2007, 09:39:54 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on October 12, 2007, 12:29:35 AM
fucking reviewers STOP WRITING ABOUT THE ENDING AT LEAST UNTIL IT'S OUT. SERIOUSLY WHO IS THAT INFORMATION FOR???? NO ONE HAS SEEN IT! IDIOTS!., god. that shit is fast becoming my number one most hated thing. period.

I did post something in the last page that maybe was unnoticed, it's clear this assholes (reviewers) won't do what you and many ask, so the solution to this stupidity is NOT TO POST THIS DAMN ARTICLES or as I said in the last page:

Quote from: Fernando on October 01, 2007, 03:05:57 PM
Just a suggestion No longer a suggestion but a demand for all the ppl that will post articles/reviews, please leave some space between the SPOILER warning and the text AND CHANGE THE FUCKING FONT COLOR....

Thanks!
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: modage on October 12, 2007, 09:52:29 AM
i'm just thankful i keep getting to this thread after everyone else so i have remained entirely unspoiled, (even on the video q&a)!  thanks fellow admins.   :bravo:
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: B.C. Long on October 12, 2007, 11:03:39 PM
I never realized how eccentric Paul was. It's almost hard to believe he's a director when you watch him try to answer interview questions. It's like he's so bashful when put on the spot. Which is interesting because that obviously doesn't carry-over to when he's on set. I can totally relate, so it's actually inspirational that you can have those personality traits and still be a talented director.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on October 13, 2007, 12:52:26 AM
PTA: Still not overrated.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Alexandro on October 13, 2007, 08:29:58 PM
everyone has said the same but man, im trully creaming my pants over this fucking movie. and pretty much everyone i ask agrees. this looks like a masterpiece.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: The Sheriff on October 15, 2007, 02:20:47 AM
Quote from: B.C. Long on October 12, 2007, 11:03:39 PM
It's like he's so bashful when put on the spot. Which is interesting because that obviously doesn't carry-over to when he's on set. I can totally relate, so it's actually inspirational that you can have those personality traits and still be a talented director.

i hate to burst your bubble, but that guy is not bashful. why would he say something like "i wouldnt want to take up too much of your time after 2 1/2 hours, that would be horrible?" what, he doesnt believe in his own movie? what, he doesnt think this audience that came to an advanced screening with q&a are interested in hearing him talk on and on?

kinda like when i said "i hate to burst your bubble but..." its bullshit people say to other people to make them believe their intentions are noble.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on October 15, 2007, 08:20:37 AM
Quote from: Stefen on September 07, 2007, 10:24:26 PM
QUICKTIME OR DEATH!!!


http://www.sliated.com/trailers/blood.mp4
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: JG on October 15, 2007, 01:12:29 PM
has anyone checked out this site (http://www.vantageguilds.com/twbb/index.html)?  who wants to call the rsvp number(s) under the "screenings" section and see what they're all about? 

EDIT:  i called.  you have to be a guild member to rsvp for a twbb screening. 

HOW DO I BECOME A GUILD MEMBER?
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on October 15, 2007, 01:17:33 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on October 15, 2007, 08:20:37 AM
Quote from: Stefen on September 07, 2007, 10:24:26 PM
QUICKTIME OR DEATH!!!


http://www.sliated.com/trailers/blood.mp4

Awesome.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: B.C. Long on October 15, 2007, 04:11:44 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on October 15, 2007, 08:20:37 AM
Quote from: Stefen on September 07, 2007, 10:24:26 PM
QUICKTIME OR DEATH!!!


http://www.sliated.com/trailers/blood.mp4

Quicktime HD 1080p or DEATH!
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pozer on October 16, 2007, 01:38:56 PM
 :multi: this is the one ive been waiting for.  i recall it was described as featuring the upper portion of DDL looking mean and covered in oil or something...

from ci&re:

Monday, October 15th.
new poster
As we had tipped off to us ages ago (i'd find it but this is my first attempt to post to the site from my crackberry like a real pretentious asshole - both of our laptops are at the doctors)– there is a poster that has been shipped to all theatres featuring daniel day lewis's head. We don't have a photo yet but the description of it is in a previous post someplace (as mentioned above) sent to us from a whispery paramount-er. Thanks to our projectionist pal for tipping us off and thanks to jeff for doing wonderful posts during my bend trip. And thanks to all the Bend people for a lovely event. (Especially the fellow who asked me why we hadn't posted that wes and pt co-wrote bottle rocket and were brothers in real life)
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on October 16, 2007, 01:48:00 PM
lol@Wes and PTA being brothers in real life. If that happened, all the talent would have gone to PTA and Wes would have been stuck being a tutor to foreign exchange students who are trying to learn english and American customs. He'd be living in a crappy apartment, eating TV dinners and writing reviews on xixax on shitty weekday CBS sitcoms.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on October 16, 2007, 03:37:49 PM
Quote from: pozer on October 16, 2007, 01:38:56 PM
:multi: this is the one ive been waiting for.  i recall it was described as featuring the upper portion of DDL looking mean and covered in oil or something...

Quote from: modage on April 14, 2007, 12:29:07 PM
Quote from: cigs and red vines
from ("please keep my name anonymous so i don't lose my job") "i was delivering an envelope to an office on a studio lot in LA. on my way out my eye caught a black & white poster sized image of Daniel Day Lewis's face and shoulders, covered with oil and looking scarier than scary. In big black font the poster read "There Will Be Blood". Like i mentioned, quasi news. i've been kind of geeking out since i saw it and wanted to share with people who were down."
holy fuck.
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Post by: Pubrick on October 16, 2007, 07:36:52 PM
this must be what he saw.

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi5.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy154%2Fpubrick%2FJRCMBB.jpg&hash=ff2d34779b1822a4c32edc55d34626a382053052)
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Post by: hedwig on October 16, 2007, 08:30:14 PM
holy fuck.
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Post by: Stefen on October 16, 2007, 08:35:35 PM
DDL is a god among vietnam vets.
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Post by: The Red Vine on October 16, 2007, 11:03:59 PM
I've been holding out on buying the teaser poster for this very reason. I'm predicting brilliance here.
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Post by: The Red Vine on October 18, 2007, 10:30:00 AM
Here's what I've found.

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.ebayimg.com%2F08%2Fi%2F000%2Fbd%2Fb7%2F0239_1.JPG&hash=532f468c69403e4060d5932d4f62d0e624d95cd4)
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Post by: modage on October 18, 2007, 10:35:46 AM
god i hope that a fake.  if its not its the first evidence that PT will not be involved in all marketing materials as in films past.
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Post by: elpablo on October 18, 2007, 10:39:05 AM
DDL looks like he's pooping. Oil.
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Post by: Fernando on October 18, 2007, 10:53:12 AM
From that angle he looks like Seth Bullock from Deadwood.
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Post by: Ghostboy on October 18, 2007, 11:46:07 AM
Quote from: modage on October 18, 2007, 10:35:46 AM
god i hope that a fake.  if its not its the first evidence that PT will not be involved in all marketing materials as in films past.

That looks like the kinda thing he'd do, actually. Kinda like the PDL dvd slipcase. I like the stark simplicity of it.
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Post by: Stefen on October 18, 2007, 12:10:13 PM
Ugh. Can he at least put a hidden cross in the corner?
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Marty McSuperfly on October 18, 2007, 12:49:27 PM
If that's real, I think I'll stick with my advance one sheet. Disappointing ... :yabbse-thumbdown:
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Post by: Pozer on October 18, 2007, 01:09:13 PM
Quote from: Ghostboy on October 18, 2007, 11:46:07 AM
Quote from: modage on October 18, 2007, 10:35:46 AM
god i hope that a fake.  if its not its the first evidence that PT will not be involved in all marketing materials as in films past.

That looks like the kinda thing he'd do, actually. Kinda like the PDL dvd slipcase. I like the stark simplicity of it.

i was actually hoping for something more like the PDL DVD cover.  white bg with a mean sonuvabitch DDL looking straight forward covered in oil with chere mill be blood title below.
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Post by: modage on October 18, 2007, 01:16:49 PM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.ebayimg.com%2F08%2Fi%2F000%2Fbd%2Fb7%2F0239_1.JPG&hash=532f468c69403e4060d5932d4f62d0e624d95cd4)

ditto that, pozer.  its just not a very dynamic shot.   :yabbse-thumbdown:

i still don't believe it's real.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Marty McSuperfly on October 18, 2007, 01:32:24 PM
The script is now up at Cigs and Red Vines...

Must. Not. Read. Must. Not. Read.
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Post by: Stefen on October 18, 2007, 01:38:49 PM
How current is it?
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Post by: picolas on October 18, 2007, 01:52:15 PM
DDL is not covered in oil or looking scarier than scary. or scary. the projectionist should confirm this isn't the one he saw.
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Post by: Sal on October 18, 2007, 03:54:54 PM
I think having him "covered in oil" is what we call "on the nose" aka  :yabbse-thumbdown: I'll applaud this one instead  :bravo:
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Post by: Pubrick on October 18, 2007, 04:01:05 PM
that's just about the worst poster i ever saw. even his tie wants to hide away in shame.

this just went from most anticipated film to LEAST. call me when they get rid of the score.
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Post by: Stefen on October 18, 2007, 05:46:02 PM
John Rambo >>>> There Will Be Blood. And it's not even close.

They should really look into swapping titles.
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Post by: SiliasRuby on October 18, 2007, 08:50:37 PM
I saw the poster at the arclight in hollywood when I saw Michael Clayton the second time. It looks pretty decent to me. Still excited.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on October 18, 2007, 09:11:02 PM
So that IS the poster? And not just some cruel joke by some dickhead?  :yabbse-thumbdown:
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: SiliasRuby on October 18, 2007, 09:52:15 PM
You are correct. The picture of the poster you see above, is actually it.
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Post by: picolas on October 18, 2007, 10:23:06 PM
Quote from: cigs scoopercovered with oil and looking scarier than scary
WTF
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Post by: Stefen on October 18, 2007, 10:50:43 PM
Ugh. Trying to stay positive.

You know, that's just a PICTURE of the poster, and it's at an angle. Maybe in real-life it's in 3D.
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Post by: modage on October 19, 2007, 09:48:38 AM
Quote from: Marty McSuperfly on October 18, 2007, 01:32:24 PM
The script is now up at Cigs and Red Vines...

Must. Not. Read. Must. Not. Read.
they took it down. imagine that paul & co. did not want every fanboy having access to it. 
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Post by: Pozer on October 19, 2007, 11:42:13 AM
well it's here http://www.vantageguilds.com/twbb/FinalScript_TWBB.pdf (http://www.vantageguilds.com/twbb/FinalScript_TWBB.pdf) but nobody read it.
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Post by: Marty McSuperfly on October 20, 2007, 07:44:35 AM
Now, if only the poster looked like the soundtrack cover... Beautiful

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F51w9c0MFk2L._SS500_.jpg&hash=36f82d3e8c7460b9c68fe888173793bf77cea6de)
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Post by: Marty McSuperfly on October 20, 2007, 09:38:39 AM
From Amazon: Guitarist Jonny Greenwood has composed a hauntingly dramatic instrumental score for Oscar nominated writer-director
Paul Thomas Anderson s ambitious new film, There Will Be Blood. An adaptation of the Upton Sinclair novel Oil!, the movie features
Daniel Day-Lewis in what The Hollywood Reporter has described as a powerhouse performance... it s a certain awards contender.
Greenwood s remarkable compositions, written primarily for strings, have already garnered considerable praise in advance reviews.
The score resembles his rock compositions only in the level of daring and inventiveness to be found throughout these tracks and in the unsettling atmosphere he is able to conjure at key moments. Greenwood s score is more indicative of his current collaborations with the BBC Orchestra as Composer In Residence activities closely followed by Pitchfork Media and The Daily Swarm.
In fact, the score incorporates material from two orchestral pieces he created in that position, smear and Popcorn Superhet Receiver,
which will have its U.S. concert premiere this January when Greenwood appears at the Wordless Music Series in New York City.
There Will Be Blood takes Anderson in a radically different direction than his celebrated earlier films, Boogie Nights and Magnolia dazzling, attention-grabbing movies marked by multiple plot lines, ensemble casts and surreal visual elements. His last project,Punch Drunk Love, was a sophisticated comedy-drama with a smart pop score by composer-producer Jon Brion, released on
Nonesuch in 2002. Anderson s new work is a stark period piece filmed on arid Texas plains; critics have likened it to the brilliantly austere work of such revered directors as Stanley Kubrick and Terence Malick (Days Of Heaven). The Hollywood Reporter called Greenwood s score captivating...greatly contributing to the sense that tectonic forces lie beneath the drama.
The soundtrack to There Will Be Blood will appeal to serious movie-music fans, who will appreciate this rare find: an intelligent, beautiful
and deeply cinematic orchestrated score performed by the BBC Orchestra and London Sinfonietta that can hold its own next to the classic work of such composers as Bernard Herrman, Elmer Bernstein and Ennio Morricone.
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Post by: Marty McSuperfly on October 20, 2007, 04:11:46 PM
Download Smear (track 10) here ---------> http://www.mediafire.com/?4pc00mmnrnu
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on October 20, 2007, 04:24:47 PM
I read it.

That ending.

Fuck.
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Post by: modage on October 20, 2007, 06:12:19 PM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xixax.com%2Fimages%2Ftwbb_poster.jpg&hash=5804af49005ba9fb2a9d8c24b099d6e3d8409819)
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Post by: edison on October 20, 2007, 06:30:04 PM
damn, he looks so fucking constipated
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Post by: The Red Vine on October 20, 2007, 07:02:12 PM
Looking at that better image of the poster, I don't hate it quite so much now. But it's far from the "brilliance" I was expecting.
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Post by: Pozer on October 20, 2007, 08:12:32 PM
Quote from: edison on October 20, 2007, 06:30:04 PM
damn, he looks so fucking constipated

now i get the title!
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Post by: tpfkabi on October 21, 2007, 12:27:50 AM
"The soundtrack to There Will Be Blood will appeal to serious movie-music fans, who will appreciate this rare find: an intelligent, beautiful
and deeply cinematic orchestrated score performed by the BBC Orchestra and London Sinfonietta that can hold its own next to the classic work of such composers as Bernard Herrman, Elmer Bernstein and Ennio Morricone."

good night, that's pretty high praise.
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Post by: cron on October 21, 2007, 01:59:47 AM
Quote from: pozer on October 20, 2007, 08:12:32 PM
Quote from: edison on October 20, 2007, 06:30:04 PM
damn, he looks so fucking constipated

now i get the title!


pozer, that made me laugh a lot!
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Post by: Pubrick on October 21, 2007, 05:48:19 AM
daniel day-poois

TP anderson

needs a peek-a-poo in the corner.

k that's all i got. i'm going away for 5 days, if anyone cares. authorized spokespeople may fill in for me while i'm gone. lat..
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Post by: ElPandaRoyal on October 21, 2007, 04:59:01 PM
Quote from: The Red Vine on October 20, 2007, 07:02:12 PM
Looking at that better image of the poster, I don't hate it quite so much now. But it's far from the "brilliance" I was expecting.

Agreed! It's still not that good, but not that bad either...
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Post by: cine on October 22, 2007, 06:09:25 AM
a Poolardi Film Company Production.
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Post by: Tommy Both on October 22, 2007, 06:46:07 AM
Quote from: pozer on October 19, 2007, 11:42:13 AM
well it's here http://www.vantageguilds.com/twbb/FinalScript_TWBB.pdf (http://www.vantageguilds.com/twbb/FinalScript_TWBB.pdf) but nobody read it.

OMG , the entire shooting script online on the paramount website?????

Why has nobody talked about this more?
Anyone read it?
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Post by: Pozer on October 22, 2007, 10:56:02 AM
saw the poster at the theater and like it more now.  plus it drew attention. 

Quote from: Pubrick on October 21, 2007, 05:48:19 AM
i'm going away for 5 days, if anyone cares. authorized spokespeople may fill in for me while i'm gone. lat..

oh we care :salute: 

i have not seen the poster at the theater.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Ravi on October 22, 2007, 11:17:02 AM
Quote from: Cinephile on October 22, 2007, 06:09:25 AM
a Poolardi Film Company Production.

Produced by Daniel Poopy
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: picolas on October 22, 2007, 01:10:01 PM
spoolers (spoilers about poo)

Upton Shitclair

Poo Dano

"I've travelled across half our state to pee here and to pee about this land. This is my son and my pootner HW Plainpoo. Sometimes I call him Little Plainpoo." "I found some interesting Poosprects."

"I hate most poopie. I look at poopie and I see nothing worth liking.. I see the worst in poopie."

read no further if you don't want to be disgusted

Shitgarettes and *cough*pee

click here to download Smear
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Post by: Marty McSuperfly on October 22, 2007, 04:14:28 PM
Anyone live near San Francisco? Screening of TWBB on Nov 5 for just 10 bucks!!

http://www.castrotheatre.com/nov.htm
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Post by: MacGuffin on October 22, 2007, 04:25:01 PM
Quote from: Marty McSuperfly on October 22, 2007, 04:14:28 PM
Anyone live near San Francisco? Screening of TWBB on Nov 5 for just 10 bucks!!

http://www.castrotheatre.com/nov.htm

message from paul
Source: cig&rv

heads up for this one kids. got an email late last night:

well.......where to start?

it's been a very long haul.
as you know, the film is done.
as you know, it's in a big machine
lumbering along towards it's release date....

so if you can't wait for that big machine
to do it's thing and you live in the bay area
of california......come to the Castro
on November 5th. we're showing the movie.
if you haven't been there, you won't be sorry
that you did. it's one of the most glorious
old movie palaces still standing.....

have sent along some photos to tide you
over. thank you for being patient and
keeping interested.....cannot wait to get it
out there. we're really proud and very excited.

lots more to come in the next weeks and
months, so talk soon...

pta.
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Post by: B.C. Long on October 22, 2007, 04:30:32 PM
holy shit I just bought tickets.
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Post by: Fernando on October 22, 2007, 04:33:48 PM
Mac, you are going to this right? (I demand that you do!)

For once the ny crowd won't have the pleasure, haha.


edit: bc long, congrats you lucky bastard!
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Post by: JG on October 22, 2007, 04:54:08 PM
WHAT THE EFF WHERE IS THE EAST COAST VERSION?
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on October 22, 2007, 04:58:09 PM
Quote from: Fernando on October 22, 2007, 04:33:48 PM
Mac, you are going to this right? (I demand that you do!)

I gotta admit, the thought of buying a $150 plane ticket did cross my mind.



(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hollywood-elsewhere.com%2Fimages%2Fcolumn%2F11107%2Fcastroblood460.jpg&hash=5b021fa87a110ed57d0e588cbc00721cfe3c0c9b)
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Post by: modage on October 22, 2007, 05:06:36 PM
Quote from: JG on October 22, 2007, 04:54:08 PM
WHAT THE EFF WHERE IS THE EAST COAST VERSION?
yeah really.  i get that paul is an LA guy but help us out man, i'm dying! 

Quote from: MacGuffin on October 22, 2007, 04:58:09 PM
I gotta admit, the thought of buying a $150 plane ticket did cross my mind.
i gotta admit the thought of buying a much more expensive plane ticket from new york did cross my mind.
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Post by: Pozer on October 22, 2007, 05:13:17 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on October 22, 2007, 04:58:09 PM
Quote from: Fernando on October 22, 2007, 04:33:48 PM
Mac, you are going to this right? (I demand that you do!)

I gotta admit, the thought of buying a $150 plane ticket did cross my mind.

Mac, what in the HELL are you talking about???  I live even further away than you, and i just bought 2 tickets  :shock: :shock: :shock:  it's all about the road trip!
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Post by: Fernando on October 22, 2007, 05:17:49 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on October 22, 2007, 04:58:09 PM
Quote from: Fernando on October 22, 2007, 04:33:48 PM
Mac, you are going to this right? (I demand that you do!)

I gotta admit, the thought of buying a $150 plane ticket did cross my mind.


Are you that far from it that you need to go by plane? How long is it by car?


Maybe we should chip in for mod's plane ticket since he does REALLY care about it.   :yabbse-wink:
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Post by: Pozer on October 22, 2007, 05:23:44 PM
Quote from: Lucid on October 22, 2007, 05:20:57 PM
Holy fucking shit.  Just bought my tickets.

where the fuck is the high five smiley!

mods h8s us
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on October 22, 2007, 05:25:46 PM
Quote from: Fernando on October 22, 2007, 05:17:49 PMAre you that far from it that you need to go by plane? How long is it by car?

Around 15 hours round-trip by car. Two hours r-t by plane.

Maybe I should hitch a ride with pozer, or least start considering moving up there since it looks like all of Los Angeles is gonna burn to the ground.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pozer on October 22, 2007, 05:46:25 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on October 22, 2007, 05:25:46 PM
Maybe I should hitch a ride with pozer, or least start considering moving up there since it looks like all of Los Angeles is gonna burn to the ground.

oh right the fires.  my excitment just decreased some.
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Post by: matt35mm on October 22, 2007, 08:45:45 PM
Awwwwrrrghphptptpt!!

And at the Castro!

I'll be in Arizona, instead of in the Bay Area where I belong.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: john on October 22, 2007, 08:55:29 PM
You know, I keep seeing great shit happening in Los Angeles and New York, and I keep bitching about the Bay Area being a relative dullsville for film fans... at least, by compairison...

Then I come home, check the board, and find this out....

I am fucking giddy.

Ecstatic, really.

I can practically walk to this.

Goddamn, I am happy.
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Post by: SiliasRuby on October 22, 2007, 09:44:01 PM
I just bought my ticket for the event. Yes.....Hey Mac, pozer, carpool?
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: ©brad on October 22, 2007, 10:08:16 PM
fuck. me. dead.

Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: B.C. Long on October 22, 2007, 10:10:40 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on October 22, 2007, 04:25:01 PM
come to the Castro on November 5th. we're showing the movie.


I wonder if by "we're" he means "Himself". *Crosses Fingers*
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: matt35mm on October 22, 2007, 10:13:41 PM
I can't believe I'm not gonna get to meet Silias...

This is bad and I should feel bad.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Slick Shoes on October 23, 2007, 12:46:24 AM
I just bought a ticket despite the fact that a) I am starting a new job this week and have no idea if I'll be able to get time off b) I live three hundred miles from SF and c) I'm broke.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: B.C. Long on October 23, 2007, 01:13:07 AM
That's kind of irritating that people are buying tickets who aren't even sure they're going to make it. I hate it when people do this at concerts and then the box office won't let anyone in despite there being seats available. So, MAKE SURE YOU MAKE IT. I'll pitch in 10 dollars for your gas money. This is the scene in the movie where I help you get to the movie.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: pete on October 23, 2007, 01:46:02 AM
haha lucid says I'm her plus one!
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: bluejaytwist on October 23, 2007, 03:24:10 AM
ola fockers;

i suggest we get xixax bowling shirts made
and by suggest i mean do not suggest

will you stop and say hello?
ps: its all about the afterparty

cjw
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Slick Shoes on October 23, 2007, 03:37:09 AM
Quote from: B.C. Long on October 23, 2007, 01:13:07 AM
That's kind of irritating that people are buying tickets who aren't even sure they're going to make it. I hate it when people do this at concerts and then the box office won't let anyone in despite there being seats available. So, MAKE SURE YOU MAKE IT. I'll pitch in 10 dollars for your gas money. This is the scene in the movie where I help you get to the movie.
I didn't say I wasn't sure if I could make it, I said I wasn't sure if I could get time off work. That's what calling in sick is for. So please don't be irritated. You can still chip in for my gas if you want...
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Gamblour. on October 23, 2007, 08:55:20 AM
Despite this screening, I was content with waiting until Christmas. But now all of this carpooling...I'm sad. I bet it will be like this:

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F51NBEDVKGAL._SS500_.jpg&hash=c0f5d321c0fca629fcb505ff2a4860d8f4ebe7a3)

Just be sure to drive through the top of a mall for me. :-(
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Redlum on October 23, 2007, 02:29:24 PM
http://www.vantageguilds.com/screenings/twbb.html

Presumably you need guild or press affiliation to get into these? February is too far.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on October 23, 2007, 06:55:39 PM
I was able to get 4 tickets (that's all they would give me)

If I can't see it, then nobody can!
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: SiliasRuby on October 23, 2007, 07:54:45 PM
Quote from: Gamblour. on October 23, 2007, 08:55:20 AM
Despite this screening, I was content with waiting until Christmas. But now all of this carpooling...I'm sad. I bet it will be like this:

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F51NBEDVKGAL._SS500_.jpg&hash=c0f5d321c0fca629fcb505ff2a4860d8f4ebe7a3)

Just be sure to drive through the top of a mall for me. :-(
Shit, I've been meaning to pick that up on DVD. Well, gotta put it on the wishlist.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: B.C. Long on October 23, 2007, 09:48:02 PM
Quote from: Stefen on October 23, 2007, 06:55:39 PM
I was able to get 4 tickets (that's all they would give me)

If I can't see it, then nobody can!

Where do you live?
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Gamblour. on October 24, 2007, 07:15:18 AM
Quote from: Stefen on October 23, 2007, 06:55:39 PM
I was able to get 4 tickets (that's all they would give me)

If I can't see it, then nobody can!

You need to pull a Hannah Montana and keep snatching them up and scalp them to the highest bidder.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on October 24, 2007, 09:11:43 AM
Quote from: B.C. Long on October 23, 2007, 09:48:02 PM
Quote from: Stefen on October 23, 2007, 06:55:39 PM
I was able to get 4 tickets (that's all they would give me)

If I can't see it, then nobody can!

Where do you live?

Transylvania.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on October 24, 2007, 09:12:17 AM
Quote from: Gamblour. on October 24, 2007, 07:15:18 AM
Quote from: Stefen on October 23, 2007, 06:55:39 PM
I was able to get 4 tickets (that's all they would give me)

If I can't see it, then nobody can!

You need to pull a Hannah Montana and keep snatching them up and scalp them to the highest bidder.

haha, I have no idea what you're talking about but that was a great episode.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Gamblour. on October 24, 2007, 10:43:16 AM
Quote from: Stefen on October 24, 2007, 09:12:17 AM
Quote from: Gamblour. on October 24, 2007, 07:15:18 AM
Quote from: Stefen on October 23, 2007, 06:55:39 PM
I was able to get 4 tickets (that's all they would give me)

If I can't see it, then nobody can!

You need to pull a Hannah Montana and keep snatching them up and scalp them to the highest bidder.

haha, I have no idea what you're talking about but that was a great episode.

I was talking about the ticket brokers that shat on the dreams of millions of young girls by buying up the tickets and scalping them at prices 10x face value.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on October 24, 2007, 01:19:22 PM
Like I care about profits. I just don't want anyone to see it if I can't.

I've spent over $1,000 buying up all the tickets I can.

How much would it have cost to fly down to CA to see it?

........

Damnit.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pozer on October 24, 2007, 02:59:33 PM
well, you got your money back... 

this news kinda sux for ppl who were going but dont live in the bay area. not a sure thing now  :yabbse-undecided: 
good for da kiddies tho.

im still goin for it.

***The tickets you purchased for Sneak Preview: THERE WILL BE BLOOD at
Castro Theatre on Monday, November 5 will be automatically
refunded since the event has been cancelled.

The cancelled event was:

   Sneak Preview: THERE WILL BE BLOOD

This event is NOT CANCELED but the film promoter has decided to make
this a donation-at-the-door screening. Your purchase from TicketWeb has
been refunded in full. The film is still taking place, but you must pay
at the door $10 donation.
All proceeds benefit the John Burton
Foundation for Homeless Children.  http://www.johnburtonfoundation.org/

Thank you for choosing TicketWeb.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: pete on October 24, 2007, 03:23:08 PM
me too.  getting off work early.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on October 24, 2007, 03:31:51 PM
You know that now a bunch of people who don't even care about PTA's movies are going to show up just for a chance to see a movie early. They don't care what movie it is, they just want to brag that they saw a movie before it opened "Oh, that movie. I saw it months ago at an early screening. It sucked. It was soooo boring"
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pozer on October 24, 2007, 03:34:36 PM
modge may hav scored a point here.  or at least half a point for those who HAD tickets.

http://www.cigarettesandredvines.com/news/  (http://www.cigarettesandredvines.com/news/)
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on October 24, 2007, 03:35:58 PM
Quote from: Stefen on October 24, 2007, 03:31:51 PM
You know that now a bunch of people who don't even care about PTA's movies are going to show up just for a chance to see a movie early. They don't care what movie it is, they just want to brag that they saw a movie before it opened "Oh, that movie. I saw it months ago at an early screening. It sucked. It was soooo boring"

They'll be wearing the IMDB bowling shirts.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: modage on October 24, 2007, 03:36:37 PM
yes free screenings are the worst.  there are douchebags who show up HOURS and HOURS early just because they ONLY see free screenings.  this could leave PT fans in the cold. 

modage:  :yabbse-grin:
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: B.C. Long on October 24, 2007, 03:48:17 PM
SHIT
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on October 24, 2007, 03:53:32 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on October 24, 2007, 03:35:58 PM
Quote from: Stefen on October 24, 2007, 03:31:51 PM
You know that now a bunch of people who don't even care about PTA's movies are going to show up just for a chance to see a movie early. They don't care what movie it is, they just want to brag that they saw a movie before it opened "Oh, that movie. I saw it months ago at an early screening. It sucked. It was soooo boring"

They'll be wearing the IMDB bowling shirts.

Yup. And they compare EVERY action movie to Gladiator, and EVERY comedy to Office Space, and EVERY drama to random Ron Howard movies. "Eh, I don't know, it just wasn't as realistic as A Beautiful Mind"

"The Missing is a WAY better western than I Want Blood"
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: hedwig on October 24, 2007, 04:54:15 PM
at least there'll be a lot of new material for the "Stupidest thing you've heard someone say about a movie" thread.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: bluejaytwist on October 24, 2007, 05:32:36 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on October 24, 2007, 03:35:58 PM
Quote from: Stefen on October 24, 2007, 03:31:51 PM
You know that now a bunch of people who don't even care about PTA's movies are going to show up just for a chance to see a movie early. They don't care what movie it is, they just want to brag that they saw a movie before it opened "Oh, that movie. I saw it months ago at an early screening. It sucked. It was soooo boring"

They'll be wearing the IMDB bowling shirts.

tears of lol's sir. well played.

pea ess: the site has been updated again with further info should you all require it
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: modage on October 24, 2007, 05:56:22 PM
Quote from: bluejaytwist on October 24, 2007, 05:32:36 PM
pea ess: the site has been updated again with further info should you all require it

just one final bit: when is the nyc screening?  :(
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: pete on October 24, 2007, 07:56:17 PM
ah, lining up starts at 1pm.  is this gonna work?  I have a feeling I might end up roaming the streets of castro for love come 7pm.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: B.C. Long on October 24, 2007, 11:48:07 PM
Quote from: cnc on October 24, 2007, 07:56:17 PM
the box office will be open at 1pm for the 7pm screening

Does that mean we can buy tickets at 1? or we can show up at 1?
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on October 24, 2007, 11:49:24 PM
Be sure to blog from the campout.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: pete on October 25, 2007, 12:01:20 AM
I think "box office will be open" means they'll be selling tickets. 
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: bluejaytwist on October 25, 2007, 02:07:07 AM
Quote from: pete on October 25, 2007, 12:01:20 AM
I think "box office will be open" means they'll be selling tickets. 

thank you.

cjw
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: SiliasRuby on October 25, 2007, 04:08:25 AM
Looks like I'm going to modesto, my hometown, the day before to get there early. Modesto is an hour south east from frisco. Okay. I'm feeling a bit better.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Marty McSuperfly on October 26, 2007, 05:57:43 AM
Nothing much, just a new quote from PTA

Source: USA Weekend Holiday Movies preview

There Will Be Blood (Dec. 26) For this film version of the classic Upton Sinclair novel about the origins of the oil industry, filmmakers had to build a 60-foot derrick in barren Marfa, Texas, and then set fire to it. "There was a lot of anxiety about that on the set," says director Paul Thomas Anderson. "Our special-effects expert told us, 'I can start the fire, but I can't guarantee we can put it out.' " The filming went fine, but the experience made a big impression on Anderson. "I got a whole new appreciation for what firefighters go through."

Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: bonanzataz on October 26, 2007, 04:09:26 PM
i keep telling myself that i'm not going to look at this thread, b/c how can the movie possibly live up to these enormous expectations?

but here i am...


i do think, and i don't think i'm the first to suggest this, that we should make a new thread for when the movie opens. we're already on page 56 and nobody's even seen this yet.

PS - sorry for the substance free post. i'm on a diet.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on October 26, 2007, 10:50:26 PM
'Blood' Lands in L.A.
Source: Kris Tapley; Red Carpet District

Paramount Vantage showed Paul Thomas Anderson's "There Will Be Blood" to a mere four -- count 'em -- four members of the Los Angeles entertainment press corps last night...but don't expect any reviews yet.

That's right, we're all expected to be nice enough to hold our thoughts until the Nov. 5 unveiling of the film in San Francisco, at which point the flood gates will certainly go down in a hurry.

All of this despite the fact that the film was kinda, sorta reviewed here at Variety by a stringer out of the Fantastic Fest in Austin, mind you.  Marjorie Baumgarten of the Austin Chronicle had some thoughts in print at that outlet as well as on Variety's festival blog "The Circuit."  John DeFore, meanwhile, ran a full review out of the fest at The Hollywood Reporter.  So the sanctioned cat, if you will, is somewhat out of the bag.

But like I said...we're being nice.

More to come...
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: JG on October 27, 2007, 08:55:37 AM
Quote from: Stefen on October 24, 2007, 11:49:24 PM
Be sure to blog from the campout.

yeah, and we're gonna need updates every five minutes during the movie. 

score/no score
blood/no blood

etc. 
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: last days of gerry the elephant on October 28, 2007, 11:25:21 AM
Ew, they could have at least type set OIL! in the same 'black letter' as the movie title.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: idk on October 28, 2007, 08:40:51 PM
SPOILS

http://bibliomarket.wordpress.com/2006/12/11/gallaudet-student-russell-harvard-on-csi-ny-dec-13/ (http://bibliomarket.wordpress.com/2006/12/11/gallaudet-student-russell-harvard-on-csi-ny-dec-13/)
This isn't very special but it does have a picture of the guy playing the older H.W.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: picolas on October 29, 2007, 01:36:35 PM
motherfucker, that's a spoil.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pozer on October 29, 2007, 02:43:15 PM
the actor/character is listed on imdb tho.  there're spoils everywhere.  one of the titles on the soundrack seems like a spoil.   
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: picolas on October 29, 2007, 03:54:11 PM
there will be spoils. but that's no excuse for posting them here without proper warning.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on October 29, 2007, 04:05:59 PM
Let's just refrain from posting ANYTHING. Just to be safe.

Lock thread please.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: idk on October 29, 2007, 04:57:42 PM
my bad guys, now that i think about it, i guess it is
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pubrick on October 29, 2007, 07:51:48 PM
yeah it's a pretty big spoil. that's ok, rookie mistake. i'll just go on a huge bender right before i see the movie.

uh,.., on second thought just everybody please think before you post news, especially when it's obviously about the future/later (in this case maybe even post-final) stages of the story.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: edison on October 29, 2007, 08:38:37 PM
I can't wait for the next person to post a unlabeled spoiler, they are sooooooo screwed.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: tpfkabi on October 29, 2007, 10:09:26 PM
frog storm and shiz...

sincerely,
john exodus 3:16/82
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: The Sheriff on October 30, 2007, 02:55:28 AM
Quote from: Lucid on October 28, 2007, 10:33:18 AM
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spoiler: this isnt about the middle east
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: picolas on October 30, 2007, 02:52:25 PM
cigs 'n' v shows the score is up here: http://www.vantageguilds.com/twbb/index.html

i don't know if it's the full score. it's mislabled. i scanned through and if it is, we may never know where that theme from the trailer comes from, dammit. has anyone figured it out?
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: RegularKarate on October 30, 2007, 04:16:09 PM
REMINDER!  Song titles listed on Pic's link contain spoilers.

Also, Spoiler: the soundtrack is awesomely haunting

Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: tpfkabi on October 30, 2007, 05:35:49 PM
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/download/46754-jonny-greenwood-there-will-be-blood-ost-stream

speak of the devil, pitchfork had a link to listen to some of the score...
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pozer on October 30, 2007, 06:41:38 PM
 :yabbse-smiley:

Dear Castro Theatre Patron,

There has been some concern among customers who purchased tickets for the November 5 screening premiere of "There Will Be Blood." Due to an agreement with the film promoter, the screening is a benefit for the John Burton Foundation. Their request was to have tickets available at the door only and not in advance. We "canceled" the online pre-sales and your full purchase price plus any fees were refunded by TicketWeb.

To make sure you are able to get into the screening, the number of tickets you purchased for the "There Will Be Blood" sneak preview will be put ON HOLD at the Castro Theatre's box office. You have not paid for these; a donation of $10 is required for each ticket. They will remain ON HOLD until 7:30pm, at which time they will be sold if necessary. If you recieved paper tickets in the mail, they are no longer valid.  The box office will open at 1:00pm. 4 ticket limit per patron. CASH ONLY please.

Thank you for your understanding and patronage of the Castro Theatre.






Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: picolas on October 30, 2007, 06:45:09 PM
made an mp3 rip of the score chunks. labeled for itunes.

http://www.mediafire.com/?eyidmmzxycz

it's super low qual but i don't think it's lower than the source.

missing track: http://www.mediafire.com/?2nw02emlumz
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pedro on October 30, 2007, 10:40:57 PM
Quote from: picolas on October 30, 2007, 06:45:09 PM
made an mp3 rip of the score chunks. labeled for itunes.

http://www.mediafire.com/?eyidmmzxycz

it's super low qual but i don't think it's lower than the source.

thanks so much!  let me add to the hyperbole:  the score channels stravinsky and shostakovich.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on October 30, 2007, 11:57:48 PM
Quote from: Lucid on October 30, 2007, 10:10:18 PM

:yabbse-smiley:

I was going anyway, but this makes things much easier.  Standing in line for hours is no fun but I would have done it for CMBB.*

*As I was typing that, there was a solid five second earthquake. :shock:

I wouldn't go if I was you. That was definetely a sign. I can't go, but if I was you and was going, I'd NOT go.

All of you. DON'T GO.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: picolas on October 31, 2007, 12:48:41 AM
shot! i forgot one track. here it is:

http://www.mediafire.com/?2nw02emlumz

on second listen there might be a drop in quality simply from transcoding.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on November 01, 2007, 03:51:14 PM
There Will Be Blood
By TODD MCCARTHY; Variety

**SPOILER WARNING**

A Paramount Vantage (in U.S.)/Miramax (international) release and presentation of a JoAnne Sellar/Ghoulardi Film Co. production. Produced by Paul Thomas Anderson, Sellar, Daniel Lupi. Executive producers, Scott Rudin, Eric Schlosser, David Williams. Directed, written by Paul Thomas Anderson, loosely based on the novel "Oil!" by Upton Sinclair.

Daniel Plainview - Daniel Day-Lewis
Eli Sunday - Paul Dano
Henry - Kevin J. O'Connor
Fletcher - Ciaran Hinds
H.W. Plainview - Dillon Freasier
Mary Sunday - Sydney McCallister
Abel Sunday - David Willis
H.M. Tilford - David Warshofsky
William Bandy - Colton Woodward
Adult Mary Sunday - Colleen Foy
Adult H.W - Russell Harvard

Boldly and magnificently strange, "There Will Be Blood" marks a significant departure in the work of Paul Thomas Anderson. Heretofore fixated on his native Los Angeles and most celebrated for his contempo ensemblers, writer-helmer this time branches out with an intense, increasingly insidious character study of a turn-of-the-century central California oil man. There's no getting around the fact that this Paramount Vantage/Miramax co-venture reps yet another 2½--hour-plus indie-flavored, male-centric American art film, a species that has recently proven difficult to market to more than rarefied audiences. Distribs will have to roll the dice and use hoped-for kudos for the film and its superb star Daniel Day-Lewis to create the impression of a must-see.
Officially penning an adaptation for the first time, Anderson turns out to have been inspired very loosely indeed by his source, Upton Sinclair's 1927 novel "Oil!" Pic betrays little of the tome's overview and virtually none of socialist Sinclair's muckraking instincts. Instead, it is more interested in language, in the twinned aspects of industry and religion on the landscape of American progress and, above all, in creating an obsessive, almost microscopically observed study of an extreme sociopath who determinedly destroys his ties to other human beings.

Notwithstanding its passing resemblance to "Citizen Kane," this theme is an odd one on which to build a big movie, especially in view of the extreme manner in which it ends; one can only guess at Anderson's personal reasons for dwelling on it with such unremitting fervor. But his commitment to going all the way must be respected in the face of conventional commercial considerations. Day-Lewis' Daniel Plainview is a profoundly anti-social fellow, malevolently so, and "There Will Be Blood" devotes itself to scratching, peeling and digging away at a man determined to divest himself of his past and everyone associated with it.

Foregrounded by an electronic sound that soars to an almost unbearable pitch, the first 15 minutes unfold with essentially no dialogue, as Daniel, in 1898, digs laboriously for silver and gold, then moves into oil. By 1911, he is a man of some means and has a son, although no wife. Tipped off about the abundance of oil in a rural area, and about Standard Oil's activities thereabouts, Daniel visits the farm of the pious Sunday family on false pretenses, obtains drilling rights at a bargain rate and immediately constructs the derricks on the property that will make his fortune.

Notably distinguishing the film during this initial stretch are its fulsome physicality, its linguistic distinction and the extraordinary originality of the musical score. Filmed around Marfa, Texas (where both "Giant" and "No Country for Old Men" were shot), pic presents a vivid, visceral account of the risky and sometimes dangerous labor it took to summon up black gold. With its functional, makeshift buildings and scattered equipment lending the parched landscapes a scarred beauty, Jack Fisk's production design indelibly brings to life the evocative photographs that exist of such industrial communities, and Robert Elswit's lensing captures it all with strong widescreen compositions and muscular camera moves.

More striking, however, is the nature of the language. Day-Lewis may well have used John Huston as a vocal model for his line deliveries, and it may not be farfetched to suggest that Plainview reps a younger incarnation of Huston's memorably corrupt tycoon Noah Cross in "Chinatown." Beyond such a comparison, however, lies Anderson's remarkable achievement in creating dialogue marked by different cadences than we're accustomed to today, with heightened formality, clarity and precision that lend it a slightly theatrical quality rooted in the 19th century. The unashamedly declarative talk, set against the backdrop of an America quickly transforming from rural to industrial, brings to mind a bracing fusion of Eugene O'Neill and John Dos Passos.

On top of these elements is the sweeping, surging, constantly surprising score by Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood, which could be described as avant-garde symphonic. It develops over long, sustained periods, not always in precise emotional alignment with what's taking place onscreen, but generally deepening and making more mysterious the film's moods and meanings. It's a daring, adventurous, exploratory piece of work, one that on its own signals the picture's seriousness.

From the outset, when Daniel suffers a leg injury, a sense of foreboding exists that, in concert with the title, promises worse to come. Accidents take place on the job, notably one in which Daniel's son H.W. (the marvelous Dillon Freasier), now about 10, loses his hearing. Until now very close to his father, the newly impaired H.W. is soon heartlessly banished by Daniel.

Further disturbing developments involve Eli Sunday (Paul Dano), the son of the landowner Daniel took advantage of. A young, charismatic evangelist, Eli builds a considerable congregation of staunch believers in Daniel's midst, and while Daniel pays lip service to the community, he clearly views Eli's activities with contempt.

Then there's the arrival of Henry (Kevin J. O'Connor), a derelict who claims to be Daniel's half-brother and informs him their father has recently died. A jailbird and vagabond, Henry wants nothing but a menial job. Daniel takes him in, and eventually confides his radically misanthropic views to him as he does to no one else.

"I hate people," Daniel bluntly admits. "I want to earn enough money so I can get away from everyone." It's an ambition money can facilitate, but not before a terrible crime is committed and Daniel launches a one-man war against Standard Oil that involves acquiring more land to build an oil pipeline to the sea.

Drama's final 25 minutes play out in 1927, with an ultimate reckoning among Daniel, now crazy as a loon and living in Kane-like isolation, Eli and the now-grown H.W. Visually and dramatically, the final scene is a jaw-dropper, one that fits with what has come before but may still leave even partisan viewers a bit flummoxed.

The film's zealous interest in a man so alienated from his brethren can be alternately read as a work abnormally fascinated by cold, antisocial behavior, or as a deeply humanistic tract on the wages of misanthropy. Either way, Anderson has embraced his study of a malign man intimately, as has Day-Lewis, who, as always, seems so completely absorbed in his role that it's difficult to imagine him emerging between takes as just an actor playing a part. Daniel is a man who will stop at nothing to achieve the unnatural state of becoming an island onto himself, and Day-Lewis makes him his own.

Entire cast looks to have stepped out of a photo album from a century ago. Bulky but cherubic-faced, Dano ("Little Miss Sunshine") ranges from politely deferential to frothingly enraptured in a powerful performance as the young man of God, while O'Connor quietly rivets as a lifelong unfortunate. Pic could have used a developed sequence or two to establish the relationship between Daniel and his right-hand man, a role in which the imposing Ciaran Hinds gets short shrift. By contrast, numerous other supporting players have at least one scene in which they can shine. Women count for nothing in Daniel's rough and rugged world.

On a craft and technical level, the film is of the highest quality, not least in the sound department, where the mix is exceedingly complex and expressive.

Camera (Deluxe color, Panavision widescreen), Robert Elswit; editor, Dylan Tichenor; music, Jonny Greenwood; production designer, Jack Fisk; art director, David Crank; set designer, Carl Stensel; set decorator, Jim Erickson; costume designer, Mark Bridges; sound (DTS/SDDS/Dolby Digital), John Pritchett; sound designer, Christopher Scarabosio; re-recording mixers, Michael Semanick, Tom Johnson; stunt coordinators, Jeff Habberstad, Myke Schwartz; assistant director, Adam Somner; casting, Cassandra Kulukundis. Reviewed at Paramount studios, Los Angeles, Oct. 25, 2007. MPAA Rating: R. Running time: 158 MIN.

Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on November 02, 2007, 12:10:40 AM
**SPOILERS**


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"There Will Be Blood" (***1/2)
Source: InContention.com

Paul Thomas Anderson's "There Will Be Blood" might be one of the most fascinating films ever crafted. It is operatic and sinister, all at once beautiful and magnetic in its depiction of a deplorable human being through and through. But there is a deeply buried empathetic virtue to the character of Daniel Plainview (Daniel Day-Lewis) that suggests some twisted personal connection on the filmmaker's part.

There is plenty to be said and speculated upon regarding Anderson's dicey relationship with his father, and portions of that may have played into the creation of this film, which is based on the novel "Oil!" by Upton Sinclair. Whatever the case, "There Will Be Blood" is a stark narrative that counts among the best films of the year for its sheer artistic brilliance and, indeed, defiance.

Taking his lead from Sinclair's portrait of turn-of-the-century oil men, Anderson's effort has already drawn comparisons to Orson Welles' "Citizen Kane." Such comparisons may be exaggerated, but it isn't out of the question to consider Daniel Plainview in the same wheel house as Charles Foster Kane. I would wager that the character is a weird combination of Kane and Howard Hughes, with dashes of Frankenstein, the Wolf Man or some other movie monster thrown in, because "There Will Be Blood" is just that – a monster movie. It twists the viewer's sense of expectation into knots and then casually releases the tension, only to wrench them back up again. It's an imperfect film that terrorizes the mind nontheless, and I loved every second of it.

The film opens on Plainview in the desert of the Southwest in 1898, the latter days of westward expansion and yet the beginnings of American capitalism in the West. Drilling in the dry, powdered rock of the region, a lone man on a search for the beginnings of a new, lucrative life, Plainview inhabits the entire first reel of the film (15 or 20 minutes) largely by himself with not a line of dialogue in sight. An eerie, locust-like score rises and falls, drones throughout and recalls the scratching of nails on a chalkboard, much like the early portions of "The Exorcist." Indeed, composer Jonny Greenwood's work throughout the film is wonderful in its ambition and ignorance of convention.

A few years trickle by as Plainview adds onto his enterprise until finally, oil. A black-tarred hand reaches to the sky and suddenly you sense the influence of Stanley Kubrick on the film. Like the apes who discovered weaponry in "2001: A Space Odyssey," Plainview has come upon the object that will dictate America's destiny for the next century and more.

Yet more years pass and Plainview has established himself, along with an adopted son he claims as his own, in the business world of oil. New opportunities arise in various communities where Plainview can take full advantage, and finally, Day-Lewis speaks. It's the beginnings of one of the year's most dynamic performances, an absolute terror of a turn from one of the screen's most gifted actors.

Anderson's film moves forward, dabbles insistently in religion (Paul Dano's work as Eli Sunday, an evangelical preacher taking advantage in his own way, illuminates a lot of the film's interior) and soon enough moves quickly, forcibly toward a conclusion, and indeed, a final line that will go down as one of the cinema's greatest. I can't conceivably ruin the ride for you here, as "There Will Be Blood" MUST be experienced personally and without much in the way of preparation.

Daniel Day-Lewis has spit out a tour de force performance like it was on the agenda before breakfast. He makes it look so easy that one must think he has oil in his veins. As mentioned, Anderson has buried empathy so deep within him that it's almost unnoticeable (and surely will be to passing viewers...i.e., the AMPAS). But it's there. Plainview is a man willful in his ignorance of the saviors of religion, love and family. At the first spark of potential fraternal camaraderie, we see it in Day-Lewis' eyes. He wants to feel that warmth, but he detests it all the same. Indeed, he might be the epitome, the embodiment of hate. For some, it will be impossible to look away from the performance. For others, the closest exit won't be close enough.

Paul Dano is somewhat capable in a role that seems to be a bit out of his artistic reach for the most part, but who could keep up with Day-Lewis in a film like this? Still, Sunday is a maniac in his own right, a terribly interesting foil to Plainview that leads to a battle of souls if nothing else.

And in that final sequence, even though Dano comes off a touch awkward, even though Day-Lewis flies so far off the handle it's as if he is chewing through the concrete of the set, it all feels appropriate. The tone, the ultimate chill left in the viewer's stomach, the entire scenario seems skillfully plotted by Anderson, deliberately constructed and exactly as it was going to be.

So it goes that Paul Thomas Anderson remains one of the cinema's greatest living treasures. Shrewd in his decision to move to unoriginal material, perhaps wary of the pitfalls of the writer/director mold, perhaps not, he has taken yet another leap within a cinematic resume that keeps getting better and better, more and more impressive. "There Will Be Blood" is a horrific work of mastery that I don't imagine any other filmmaker would have ever been capable of accomplishing. Take Stanley Kubrick, breed him with Terrence Malick and wallow the result in the world of Robert Altman's "McCabe & Mrs. Miller" and you might come close. You might.

http://www.incontention.com/2007/11/there_will_be_blood.html

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ThompsonOnHollywood
Source: Variety

My take on the movie: it is brilliantly written, acted, directed, mounted and scored. Like the novel, it reveals a key aspect of the American character. The oil catter played by Daniel Day-Lewis--who gives a towering performance sure to earn him award consideration--is driven, powerful, tenacious, and greedy. He is the sort of man who made this country, and still does. But he is also deeply sociopathic.

In some ways the movie is a companion piece to Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Americans are a remarkably violent people. Our country breeds and foments violence. But the movie's dark, grim, assaultive nature, and the finale that does not offer any light in the darkness, will drive many viewers away, especially women. It's an art-house movie for smart people with strong stomachs. Cinephiles will revel in this. As a writer-director, PTA will earn the respect of critics and peers. But a wide-audience spectacle this is not.

PTA lacks that warm touch that can open a movie up to a broader swath of viewers--compare this to the Coens' No Country for Old Men. That movie in its way also reveals the darkness in mens' souls. But there are many people--like Tommy Lee Jones' sheriff--fighting the good fight. Even if they lose, they are still fighting.

Finally, There Will Be Blood's greatest achievement is Day-Lewis's performance. He brings humanity to a character who might otherwise not have any, as interpreted by another actor.

http://weblogs.variety.com/thompsononhollywood/2007/11/there-will-be-b.html#more
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Post by: JG on November 02, 2007, 11:42:56 AM
thats a new trailer that apple is streaming right? 

the last 5 or so images before his monologue at the end there look incredible. 
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Post by: Pozer on November 02, 2007, 12:26:09 PM
'tis another hype machine indeed.  monday will be extraordinary.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount_vantage/therewillbeblood/domestictrailer1/ (http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount_vantage/therewillbeblood/domestictrailer1/)
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Post by: modage on November 02, 2007, 01:52:33 PM
HD dude, HD!

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount_vantage/therewillbeblood/hd/

i think i am actually going to stop visiting this thread on sunday.  and not for almost two months.  i'm sure there will be like 50 pages of comments to catchup on.  that will be insane.
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Post by: w/o horse on November 02, 2007, 11:34:35 PM
The only reason I know this thread exists is because it's constantly in the recently posted section.  I'd ask if there's anyone else avoiding the hype but you're reading this so you're not.  For those reading I don't know how you do it, like pump yourselves up for so long and make 16 hour trips for the preview and talk about every minor detail.  It'd kill it for me.  I haven't watched a trailer, read an interview, etc, and when I see this movie I'll see it alone and without my friends who are like you guys.  Not because that's the better thing to do, but because there's so much excitement surrounding this movie that it floats into my experience anyway, so without even attempting anything I have these expectations forming and I'm just the kind of guy that likes to keep the personal movies personal.  Opening night in a crowded theater isn't how this one seems it should be seen.  It's also the reason I've never seen Taxi Driver in a theater.  Taxi Driver in a theater?  IThere'd have to be puddles on the ground, and the guy in front of me would be masturbating in one hand, holding popcorn in the other, there'd be a group of kids in the back who snuck in and won't shut up, and the sound would be a little off.  My setting would have to be like the movie's setting I guess.  I couldn't see the thing in a cineplex, with a bunch of film geeks worshipping in quiet reverie.  I can't treat There Will Be Blood like Transformers.
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Post by: I Love a Magician on November 02, 2007, 11:45:05 PM
you can't treat it like a movie and that's fuckin stupid
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Post by: w/o horse on November 02, 2007, 11:51:34 PM
  It's not a fucking argument you pompous kneejerk assfuck.
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Post by: I Love a Magician on November 03, 2007, 12:04:01 AM
mama mia! that's-a spicy meatball!!!
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Post by: picolas on November 03, 2007, 03:59:08 AM
how could this possibly be the 'domestic' trailer and the the 'theatrical' one not?? i'm not saying it isn't amazing, but it's pretty bizzarre if you've never heard or seen anything else about the film. i thought domestic was supposed to appeal to the broadest, dumbest to smartest possible range. the sexed-up version. no?
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Post by: modage on November 03, 2007, 11:31:22 AM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg2.timeinc.net%2Few%2Fdynamic%2Fimgs%2F071101%2Fwillbe_l.jpg&hash=2d093eed9eef99d42aee593980efd411aa69166f)
The Music: There Will Be Blood
Source: EW

There Will Be Blood sounds like the title of a slasher film. And if you were to listen only to its unhinged orchestral score, almost entirely composed by Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood, you might actually assume that's what it is. In fact, there are minimal amounts of spilled hemoglobin in Paul Thomas Anderson's fifth film, about a misanthropic oilman (Daniel Day-Lewis) making money and enemies in California. ''But sometimes Paul would describe it as close to the horror genre,'' says Greenwood, who set aside his rock guitar for string quartets, piano trios, and an 80-piece orchestra. ''We talked about how The Shining had lots of Penderecki in it. We figured the instruments should be contemporary to the turn of the last century, but not period music. Even though you know the sounds you're hearing are coming from very old technology, you can do things with the classical orchestra that unsettle you, that are slightly wrong, that have some kind of slightly sinister undercurrent.'' Anderson adds: ''I guess when you have a title like that, the music better be a little bit scary.''

The first portion, in which Day-Lewis investigates desert-oil prospects, is dialogue-free, alternating between silence and screeching strings in extreme dynamics rarely heard since Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey. ''I had a dream about making a movie that had no dialogue, just music and pictures,'' says Anderson. ''I got close with the first 20 minutes here.'' It marks a big departure from Anderson's talkier, more Altmanesque pictures like Magnolia — which is why the director brought in fresh collaborators, calling on Greenwood rather than his usual composer, Jon Brion. ''It's really thrilling just to hear different sounds coming out of a film you've made,'' says Anderson. ''I worked with a production designer and other people I've never worked with before. It's nerve-racking and exciting and...you have to be more polite,'' he laughs.
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Post by: MacGuffin on November 04, 2007, 07:15:26 PM
If Mr. Anderson does a Q&A tomorrow, I want to know three things:

1.) What will the DVD be like? Will it have commentary?

2.) Does he have his next project in mind?

3.) Will he ever release the video for We Suck Young Blood?
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Post by: tpfkabi on November 04, 2007, 10:10:31 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on November 04, 2007, 07:15:26 PM
3.) Will he ever release the video for We Suck Young Blood?

:yabbse-thumbdown:

ask if there will ever be a compilation of all his non feature film work/shorts/videos...
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Post by: xerxes on November 05, 2007, 12:10:09 AM
So what time is everyone getting there tomorrow? And who wants to save me a spot in line?
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Post by: ElPandaRoyal on November 05, 2007, 05:43:08 AM
So, has any of you sonsofbitches died of excitement yet?
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Post by: pete on November 05, 2007, 01:22:33 PM
I'll be happy if I got there and the line was short.  If any of y'all recognize my face, holler. 
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Post by: idk on November 05, 2007, 03:48:00 PM
On this day, I am an envious man.
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Post by: AntiDumbFrogQuestion on November 05, 2007, 08:08:58 PM
agh! I'm on the East coast.
that means t-minus 1 hour and 25 minutes 'til "7:30"

and almost 4 (or maybe even 5?) hours 'til people come home to write about it.

damn.

that's like 2 am.

see y'all in the morning.

show some cinema-love.
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Post by: xerxes on November 05, 2007, 08:47:12 PM
Update from the theater.

45 minutes until showtime: no blood yet.
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Post by: pete on November 05, 2007, 09:01:08 PM
haha I'm at the theater too, half an hour from the blood.  some sign of xerxes somewhere I heard from lucid.  I'm at the fastfood joint next door getting food and using their internet.  the place is packing up.
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Post by: matt35mm on November 05, 2007, 09:06:17 PM
It wasn't even that painful until you guys started making it real.

There's blood here right now.  Bad blood.
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Post by: Stefen on November 05, 2007, 10:14:38 PM
Let's ban them all.
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Post by: idk on November 05, 2007, 11:32:35 PM
It's ok those suckers are missing Seinfeld on Charlie Rose, they'll get their priorities straight one day.
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Post by: Pubrick on November 06, 2007, 01:22:08 AM
new board for those who've seen the light..

YOU MUST READ THIS BEFORE POSTING: http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=9967.0
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Post by: picolas on November 06, 2007, 03:34:23 AM
feel free to post non-spoiler reviews here, though!

please
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Post by: Pubrick on November 06, 2007, 03:39:50 AM
yes. if you want, post a spoiler-free version of your review (mostly hype) here for the peasants.

just so we may touch the hem of your garments.
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Post by: Marty McSuperfly on November 06, 2007, 06:10:39 AM
Which Xixaxer is this?

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/there_will_be_blood/news/1686761/
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Post by: children with angels on November 06, 2007, 06:36:42 AM
I just found out this doesn't come out in the UK till February 8. This makes me quite embarrassingly angry and uhappy. :yabbse-angry: :yabbse-sad:
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Post by: Pubrick on November 06, 2007, 06:49:52 AM
Quote from: children with angels on November 06, 2007, 06:36:42 AM
I just found out this doesn't come out in the UK till February 8. This makes me quite embarrassingly angry and uhappy. :yabbse-angry: :yabbse-sad:

i still don't know when it's coming to aus. but rest assured it will be around the same time or later, maybe even after the oscars. it sucks that i'm gonna hav to get my hands on a screener or even the US dvd release itself and spoil it on a small screen if i wanna make through 2008 alive.
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Post by: Fernando on November 06, 2007, 08:47:17 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on November 06, 2007, 06:49:52 AM
i still don't know when it's coming to aus. but rest assured it will be around the same time or later, maybe even after the oscars. it sucks that i'm gonna hav to get my hands on a screener or even the US dvd release itself and spoil it on a small screen if i wanna make through 2008 alive.

IMDb has 1 January 2008, and I don't know why it has that date as in the front page since I'm in México and it should have the Mexican release date, of course as for this moment there isn't a release date for us, but I couldn't care less about it, I'll go to either to Laredo or McAllen Tx. to see it. If Cron or alexandro want to join me they're welcome.  :yabbse-smiley:

Quote from: picolas on November 06, 2007, 03:34:23 AM
feel free to post non-spoiler reviews here, though!

please NOW!
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Post by: Pubrick on November 06, 2007, 08:52:22 AM
Quote from: Fernando on November 06, 2007, 08:47:17 AM
IMDb has 1 January 2008

wow that's incredible. i didn't bother checking cos i was sure it would be the same as always. this is before everyone, even most of america! wauv.

i won't be cutting myself to sleep tonite!
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Post by: ElPandaRoyal on November 06, 2007, 09:02:49 AM
Needless to say, IMDB doesn't even have a release date for Portugal. I'm betting for around February. Anyway, with Cronenberg, DePalma, the Coens, Coppola, Wes Anderson, Tim Burton, Woody Allen or Van Sant coming in the next few months, I think the wait is going to be less depressing. That said, I wanna see this RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!
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Post by: Sleepless on November 06, 2007, 10:29:51 AM
Quote from: children with angels on November 06, 2007, 06:36:42 AM
I just found out this doesn't come out in the UK till February 8. This makes me quite embarrassingly angry and uhappy. :yabbse-angry: :yabbse-sad:

I knew there was a reason I moved to Texas
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Post by: modage on November 06, 2007, 11:31:36 AM
a few reviews from last night:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34702

probable spoilers.
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Post by: Stefen on November 06, 2007, 11:43:21 AM
If those reviews are indicative of the people who showed up to the screening, it's a shame more of US couldn't go.

"I had no idea the little mrs sunshine guy was going to be in it! he was pretty awesome"
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Post by: Marty McSuperfly on November 06, 2007, 12:27:43 PM
Jeffrey Wells' review is up.

PROBABLE SPOILERS

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives/2007/11/post_187.php
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Post by: xerxes on November 06, 2007, 03:09:01 PM
Quote from: Marty McSuperfly on November 06, 2007, 06:10:39 AM
Which Xixaxer is this?

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/there_will_be_blood/news/1686761/

Wow, I hope that kid wasn't from the site. There's got to be better ways to waste 12 hours of your time. I got there at about 5:30 and there were only about 25 people in front of me, and the theater has 1800 seats or something.
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Post by: Stefen on November 06, 2007, 03:20:45 PM
Everyone who saw this movie are a bunch of dickheads. There should be a billion comments about the film for those of us who weren't able to see it.

I hope you all go blind and deaf and the only way you can experience another movie is to read a review of it written of braile.

:.:: ..: <------ FUCK YOU.
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Post by: Sunrise on November 06, 2007, 03:50:54 PM
Quote from: Stefen on November 06, 2007, 03:20:45 PM
Everyone who saw this movie are a bunch of dickheads. There should be a billion comments about the film for those of us who weren't able to see it.

I hope you all go blind and deaf and the only way you can experience another movie is to read a review of it written of braile.

:.:: ..: <------ FUCK YOU.

I would offer the suggestion to relax, but I'm not sure if it would help.
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Post by: Stefen on November 06, 2007, 04:01:30 PM
:.::: ...:.:. ::...:: :::.:.:.:!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Fernando on November 06, 2007, 04:41:22 PM
I'm kind with Stefen on this one, why can't the guys who saw it comment about it in a spoiler free way (here!)?

You can say a million things to hype it more (if that's even possible), but so far the ppl who've seen it only post in the child board and I won't be reading that one til I see it no matter when that happens.

I actually kind of regret making fun of the nyc ppl, pretty sure at least mod would already be chering the blood with us unprivileged xaxers; anyway, where the hell is Pozer's hype?


ok, I don't wish anyone to go blind but seriously, share the love here damn it.
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Post by: john on November 06, 2007, 05:04:43 PM
I posted this earlier in the secret-spoiler-heavy thread, by accident.

So here it is again:

I want to write something, but everything I want to share seems like it would possibly spoil something. I think anything is going to spoil something, but I'll avoid plot, dialogue, performances, and shots... lets see where that gets us...

The movie:

What struck me watching this film is that PTA is a director filled with influences, but he never mimicks them. For all the talk of McCabe and Mrs. Miller and Days of Heaven, neither of those films are similiar to TWBB. In fact, there were moments of this film that were wholly original. Moments where I felt like I've never seen anything like it and it excited me more than anything I'd seen in years. PTA doesn't want to emulate his heroes, he just constructs in a voice just as valid and as exciting as them.

The sound design, again, was incredible. Probably the best use of sound in a PTA film yet - which, I think, is saying quite a lot. It's very restrained, and very loud when it needs to be. PTA has always made me "feel" exactly what I'm hearing and here he uses that trick masterfully. The score is fantastic, too. And, listening to Greenwood's work, after working almost specifically with Jon Brion, it reminded me how much of a collaborative effort the score is between PTA and his composer. He seems to get musicians to articulate exactly what he needs while still providing their own sound. There were moments where the music felt similiar to Magnolia and Punch-Drunk Love. Not derivative, mind you, but certainly coming from the same part of the brain.

Before the film, when talking about the John Burton foundation, PTA mentioned that John Burton had a role in the film, but it was cut due to time. I haven't read the script yet, so I'm not sure how much else was cut. The film never feels indulgent in it's length, or truncated... but I still would have liked it to be longer. The last twenty minutes felts a bit rushed compaired to everything that had happened before.

But that is the smallest of quibbles - one that I'll probably reject on further viewing. This film is a rush. It's big, scary, and potent. As enthusiastic as I was going into it. As excited as I was to see a new PTA film, I still tried to reserve my praise for it. I didn't want to unabashedly claim genius because I love the director. Rehardless of any of that, this is a spectacular film. If this was his first film, and there were no expectations attached to it, it would still be magificent. But it is certainy a film no other director could have made. It is unique and new and, no matter what you expect, it will surprise you.

The screening:

When PTA introduced to the film, he said something to the effect of the Castro being one of the finest, if not best, theaters in America. I'm inclined to agree. Whoever books it's schedule is certainly enthusiastic enough. But there are enthusiastic bookers in most towns. It's the theater that speaks for itself. I also forget how fucking huge the place is. I'm not sure if the screening sold out, but I am sure that tickets were available for a longer time than I would have guessed. It wasn't an empty theatre, by any means, but it seemed to take a little effort to fill up the place. Which is good, because these goddamn AMC auditoriums seem content on getting smaller and smaller - it's nice to see a movie in a real, honest-to-God movie theater.

The film wasn't spoiled by the unitiated, even though I heard, more than once, onversations to the effect of, "I don't even know what this movie is, but it doesn't come out for, like, months."

The film wasn't even ruined by the dude who sat in front of me, apparently a Castro "regular", who smelled of garbage and sweat, carried two paper bags filled food and bottles of Clorox, and would occassionally reamrk to the similiarly crazy fella next to him about what was happening on screen. I did talk to this guy afterwards, and he seemed very adament that Daniel-Day Lewis reminded him "A LOT" of Tom Selleck. He also ate cake with his hands.
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Post by: ponceludon on November 06, 2007, 05:52:07 PM
Quote from: john on November 06, 2007, 05:04:43 PM
The film wasn't even ruined by the dude who sat in front of me, apparently a Castro "regular", who smelled of garbage and sweat, carried two paper bags filled food and bottles of Clorox, and would occassionally reamrk to the similiarly crazy fella next to him about what was happening on screen. I did talk to this guy afterwards, and he seemed very adament that Daniel-Day Lewis reminded him "A LOT" of Tom Selleck. He also ate cake with his hands.

Oh man, you sat behind THAT guy?? I would have moved.

My seating situation did affect how I felt about the movie a little teeny bit, but it was mostly the sound. The Castro has some weird acoustics, and I felt that I was so close to the speaker that every sound was incredibly grating, from the sound of pickaxes on rock to the INCREDIBLY cacophonous moments of the score, which I probably would like better if I could hear it a little less abrasively. I was also a little too close to the screen and got a neck kink which made me feel the length of the movie, but mostly from my own physical discomfort rather than poor pacing, which it did not have.

However, I thought it was very good. I didn't join this website from the PT Anderson forum, and I am not his most die-hard fan; I am far from it, in fact. I like most of his movies, but I only loved one of them (Boogie Nights) prior to seeing There Will Be Blood, so I went into this without elevated expectations. But enough about me. This was so completely different from the rest of Anderson's movies that I was really surprised to not find his favorite actor buddies and to not see his usual gimmicks like extremely long takes. There were some long takes, but they didn't feel uniquely long; rather, they fit the needs of the movie and the story very, very well. The acting was excellent, but I don't think anyone would think any less from Daniel Day Lewis. Every time I see him, I forget sometimes that he's an actor, or that he ever played different roles in his life, because he commits so much to each character.

The movie was very detailed, in ways that I'm sure I will only catch from seeing it again. The editing was very intelligent, and there were cuts between scenes that revealed a lot of information, as Xerxes said to me, and I agree with him. The relationship between Plainview and his son and some of the other characters in the film provide a sort of irony to the the title "There Will Be Blood," which I thought was very clever. It is a much more mature film than his previous ones, and while before I could imagine knowing the kind of guy who would make those films, with this one, it seemed like a film by a true professional. I am running out of things to say without revealing anything.

It was kind of funny to see everyone in the theater sticking around, expecting a Q&A. I wonder how many people would have sat through the credits if they knew that PT Anderson took off right after the movie started. I am a credits watcher, and it was sweet to see that he dedicated it to Robert Altman. That got a lot of applause from the audience. However, they also applauded Skywalker Sound, which was kind of silly.
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Post by: I Don't Believe in Beatles on November 06, 2007, 06:16:33 PM
Quote from: ponceludon on November 06, 2007, 05:52:07 PMIt was kind of funny to see everyone in the theater sticking around, expecting a Q&A. I wonder how many people would have sat through the credits if they knew that PT Anderson took off right after the movie started. I am a credits watcher, and it was sweet to see that he dedicated it to Robert Altman. That got a lot of applause from the audience. However, they also applauded Skywalker Sound, which was kind of silly.

PTA was still there.  Or, if he didn't stay for the screening, he came back later, as my friends and I saw him coming down the stairs from the balcony as we were leaving and one of my friends got his frog signed.  (We were too surprised to run into him to ask about the commentary.  Sorry, Mac.)
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on November 06, 2007, 09:05:00 PM
I thought this thread would be hopping by now.

Next time something like this happens, different people should go.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pubrick on November 06, 2007, 09:09:00 PM
for anyone who's curious, the H.W. board is talking about the ending right now.

SO DON'T GO THERE.

i took one for the team.

also, turns out no one from the board said hi to anyone else. the ny crowd would be telling a different story right now, i reckon.  at the very least there would be anecdotes of cbrad and mod playing "keep-away" with samsong's crackpipe.. again.

Quote from: Fernando on November 06, 2007, 04:41:22 PM
chering the blood

that was brilliant, btw.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: ©brad on November 06, 2007, 09:59:36 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on November 06, 2007, 09:09:00 PM
at the very least there would be anecdotes of cbrad and mod playing "keep-away" with samsong's crackpipe.. again.

at the very least. you cali guys are lame. i was already seriously considering a pre-cwbb screening keg party at my apartment for all you nyc xixaxers i have yet to meet, to be immediately followed by a parade of strippers and blow at the hustler club. that's just one idea i had tho, mod what are your thoughts?
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: john on November 06, 2007, 10:04:31 PM
If it makes anyone feel any better, as I was leaving I saw a very small, defenseless woman carrying the print of the film downstairs and across the lobby.

I briefly flirted with the idea of knocking her down and making a break for it. San Francisco citizens are passive motherfuckers, man... I coulda done it.

But I didn't.

I could have taken it from town-to-town... been an underground film folk hero for two months.

Hope that helps.



No? Well, fuck.

Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on November 06, 2007, 10:12:16 PM
Quote from: john on November 06, 2007, 10:04:31 PM
If it makes anyone feel any better, as I was leaving I saw a very small, defenseless woman carrying the print of the film downstairs and across the lobby.

I briefly flirted with the idea of knocking her down and making a break for it. San Francisco citizens are passive motherfuckers, man... I coulda done it.

But I didn't.

I could have taken it from town-to-town... been an underground film folk hero for two months.

Hope that helps.



No? Well, fuck.



haha, that would have been awesome. And we could decide who to let in to see it. I could watch it by myself because I don't like my friends if I wanted.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pozer on November 06, 2007, 10:39:49 PM
CHERE-MAS-BLOOD

pozer here from the road back to LA.  just wanted to chime in and say that i cant get the movie out of my head.  mill chere more tomorrow... chust a bit more.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on November 06, 2007, 10:48:47 PM
Well, at least Pozer has an excuse since he was on the road driving back from the screening.

But the rest of you? SHAME ON YOU.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on November 06, 2007, 11:06:12 PM
This vomitus of praise is doing nothing but getting my hopes up!!!

If I had seen it, I would make a thread titled "Ask Stefen anything about CMBB and he will answer it!" and I would do it.

But that's just me.   :yabbse-wink:
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: JG on November 06, 2007, 11:09:34 PM
Quote from: Lucid on November 06, 2007, 10:49:13 PM
Fine then.  I'll write something, although I'm hesitant to because I feel like anything I type is going to come out like a rushed vomitus of praise that might be better suited for the "official compendium".

There Will Be Blood was one of the best films I've seen in years, and not just because it's a P.T. Anderson movie.  I actually made a very concerted effort to block Magnolia, Boogie, and the rest from my memory, to pretend they had never existed for a brief moment because I didn't want my overall love of PTA's filmography to color the opinion of this work too much.  As a stand alone piece, it is phenomenal.  Viewed in light of the other films, it represents a leap in finding a new narrative voice that is strong(er), (more) distinct, and loud as hell.  It will take multiple viewings and some time to truly decide, but right now, I'm going to predict that this is his best work yet, even if Magnolia still ends up being my favorite - who knows.

Pete's spoiler-free review in the child forum is spot on when he talks about how granulated the portrait of Plainview is.  As grandiose as the themes of the movie are - many of which are common for a PTA film, especially that of the 'fractured family', the desolate male figure - it never feels too big in its scope, always returning to the story of this one man, the layers to his character, and how he personifies and interacts with larger issues (e.g., the commodification and perversion of religion, nationality and American identity, the dynamic between father and son, et cetera).  It was the father/son story that I found most powerful during the first viewing.

Paul Dano.  I mean, Paul DANO.  DDL steals the show, for sure, but so much love needs to be thrown this kid's way.  He may look like a fourteen-year-old, but he possesses a maturity and beautiful restraint in his acting - well, aside from the moments when he completely flips the fuck out - that makes him maybe the greatest young actor working today.  Gosling, who?

The movie was paced perfectly, never dragging, and I disagree that the last twenty minutes felt rushed.  Each part played out like a series of mini vignettes that, on their own, had such weight and were completely absorbing in every moment, and even when details were obscured or it was unclear what the next turn would be, they fit together so well.  ("Jigsaw Falling Into Place")  Kinda like listening to "Cuckoo Split/Convergence"?  Which, by the way, I was listening to while trudging up a hill in S.F. this morning.  Sort of weird.  And, yeah, the score really is THAT GOOD.

The last line.  The last scene.   :shock:

On a no-go Xixax meetup:

Personally, I was and have been very crazed lately, so was only in touch with xerxes and pete that day.  I thought it was hilarious that they were posting updates straight from The Castro.  Why was no one live blogging?!?  If anyone had decided to meet up, would we have pre-gamed it at pete's apartment?


thats exactly what i wanted to read, thanks lucid. 

seriously, i'm at the point where reading "one of the years best films" is kind of a let down for me. 

lucid, you should just edit out the spoiler so its not even in this thread.  the review is great without it!


edit: added quote sans spoiler
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: The Red Vine on November 06, 2007, 11:51:01 PM
Quote from: JG on November 06, 2007, 11:09:34 PM
seriously, i'm at the point where reading "one of the years best films" is kind of a let down for me. 


That's an interesting point.

For those who have seen it, would "best movie ever made" be out of line for this film? If not, perhaps I'm also a bit let down.

I'll still be having a nervous breakdown before opening day.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: SiliasRuby on November 07, 2007, 03:18:38 AM
Quote from: The Red Vine on November 06, 2007, 11:51:01 PM
Quote from: JG on November 06, 2007, 11:09:34 PM
seriously, i'm at the point where reading "one of the years best films" is kind of a let down for me. 


That's an interesting point.

For those who have seen it, would "best movie ever made" be out of line for this film? If not, perhaps I'm also a bit let down.

I'll still be having a nervous breakdown before opening day.
Having a nerveous breakdown on Christmas could or could not bode well for you.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: cowboykurtis on November 07, 2007, 01:13:27 PM
The new issue of MEAN MAGAIZINE has a pretty good 4 page interview with Anderson for TWBB

http://www.meanmag.net/home.htm
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on November 07, 2007, 01:17:27 PM
So... who's gonna transcribe it?
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: bluejaytwist on November 07, 2007, 02:45:01 PM
i will tell you one thing, because i heart you all a ton

after brunch w/paul, him and his assistant were off to do the dvd after we had finished coffee and etc. he told me everything that will be on it. i can't say what will and what won't be there, but i can passively allude to you all to not get your hopes up for a commy track this time or ever again.

isn't it wonderful delivering terrible news! :/

cjw
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pozer on November 07, 2007, 02:55:43 PM
ladies and gentlemen, if i say this is one of the finest pictures ever made, you will agree...

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my ticket was purchased at ten after two in the afternoon from the castro theater.  some were lined up at this point and had been since the early morn.  forget that noise.  i didnt travel over half our state ONLY to stand in line for theatrics.  my time to wait would come after a walkabout in the city, a trolley ride up and down the streets of saint francisco and a bbq feast washed down by a few pints. 

dessert would of course be blood and so the time came.

but it did happen

happily, i took my spot in line which wrapped around the theater at 6:20 in the pm.  after a bit of ease dropping from silly chatter about, my associate whispered into my ear: "this is what we came here for?"  i chuckled and simply replied, "no."  and with that, the line began to move.  inside the theater, a little bald man fittingly dressed in red, danced his fingers across keys to supply musical background to our talk of such things as how perfect the setting was for this affair.  more silly chatter was all around:  punch-drunk this, sydney that, charles fort hit me with a wiffle ball bat...

and then, suddenly but surely, out came pta pt ander the hard eight director to bring on the blood.  and that he did.  all systems go and all smiles the same right off the bat, though taken aback some by the flawed acoustics.  but this was the minorest of distractions to a film that both breaks you and beats you in the end....

OH HE IS DOING THINGS AND I LIKE THEM.  I COULD NOT HAVE IMAGINED HIS CAMERA WOULD DO SUCH THINGS AND GO SUCH PLACES, BUT IT DID AND I FOLLOWED.  AND I GRINNED AS I DID SO.  HE PAINTS HIS MOVING PICTURES, AND HE DID SO HERE WITH STRONGEST APPLIED PRESSURE TO HIS STROKES WHICH SLASH ACROSS THE SCREEN.  I COULD ONLY IMAGINE HIS PALLET WAS THE UGLIEST OF ONES WHEN HE WAS FINISHED....  THAT MUSIC THAT IS GUIDING HIS THINGS ALONG IS TURNING MY GRIN INTO A SINISTER ONE.  NEVER HAS A SOUNDTRACK CARRIED A TONE OF A PICTURE AS SUPERBLY AS THIS MIX HAS, AND ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO ITS HAUNTING END.....  AND WHAT'S THIS?  WHAT IS HE DOING THERE?  THAT PERFORMER THERE?  DAN YELLED, 'HEY LUIS' AND I LISTENED, ALL THE WHILE PUZZLED THAT THIS CREATURE IS CATERGORIZED AS AN ACTOR.  BECAUSE HE IS ALIVE AS THIS MONSTER THAT LIES BEFORE ME.  AND I BELIEVE HIS EVERY WORD AND DRIP OF SALIVA.  HE NEEDS NOT ASK THE QUESTION, FOR HE DOES OWN THIS......  AND THAT OVER THERE IS LITTLE MISTER DANO WHO IS NOT FAR BEHIND BRINGING HIS EVERYTHING AND ACHEIVING THE SAME AMOUNT.......  AND BY THE END OF ALL THIS, I TRULY WAS BROKEN AND BEATEN BY THESE........ THINGS.

there was blood indeed


ladies and gentlemen, somewhat dialog spoiler here my brothers from other mothers, there is much more to say about all this, but as of now this is the only way i could find to say it.  it is the greatest achievement from both PAUL THOMAS ANDERSON and DANIEL DAY-LEWIS.  there are three scenes in particular that are filled with such luminosity - they are masterful and stand with any scene kubrick has conducted.  i awoke in my sleep that night in deep thought of what i witnessed on the screen in that theater.  that theater which i left in the cold but was warmed by my own rush of blood.  citizen who?
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Post by: Pubrick on November 07, 2007, 05:36:09 PM
pozer, i don't think there will be a better review for some time.

you win this thread.

even tho i think you said more than you realise.. some of those allusions will turn out to be spoilers i'm sure.

tremendous stuff. worth the wait. thank you.
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Post by: The Perineum Falcon on November 07, 2007, 05:49:17 PM
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Post by: MacGuffin on November 07, 2007, 09:24:10 PM
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There Will Be Music
''There Will Be Blood'' director Paul Thomas Anderson and composer Jonny Greenwood (a.k.a. Radiohead's guitarist), chat about their unique collaboration on December's historical epic
By Chris Willman; Entertainment Weekly

**READ AT OWN RISK**

At or near the top of most cinephiles' list of the most exciting filmmakers working today is Paul Thomas Anderson. Fill in ''music fans'' and ''bands'' in the above construction, and Radiohead is the no-brainer choice to end that sentence. Now, Anderson and Radiohead guitarist Jonny Greenwood have teamed up. The director of such landmark films as Boogie Nights and Magnolia enlisted one of the main creative forces behind such landmark albums as OK Computer and Kid A to score the highly anticipated There Will Be Blood (opening Dec. 26). There will be strings... often abrasive, dissonant, disturbing, and always very loud strings.

Blood marks a departure for both mavericks, though maybe even a little more so for Anderson, who'd never done a period piece before tackling this tale of a misanthropic oil man (Daniel Day-Lewis) in California at the turn of the last century. Though it's not widely known, Greenwood is no neophyte to orchestration, having done one film score before (for an experimental documentary called Bodysong), in addition to being commissioned by the BBC to compose a piece called ''Popcorn Superhet Receiver,'' which is excerpted in Blood and helped get him this gig.

If you can't wait for the film to hit theaters at Christmas time, a soundtrack CD on Nonesuch will precede the movie. But if you really, really can't wait, EW got the two collaborators on the phone together, trans-Atlantically, to talk about their collaboration.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Setting aside your new collaboration for a moment, could I ask you both to name a personal favorite of each other's previous work? Jonny, I was specifically wondering if there's anything about the way Paul has used music in his previous movies that stuck out for you. And Paul, do you have a favorite piece by Radiohead?

JONNY GREENWOOD: I'm feeling like I'm on Mr. and Mrs. [an English show equivalent to America's The Newlywed Game]... Punch-Drunk Love had such great music in it. I'm a sucker for pump organ. That was really cool.

PAUL THOMAS ANDERSON: What was the last song on Amnesiac, Jonny, was it ''Life in a Glass House''?

GREENWOOD: The Dixieland one!

ANDERSON: The Dixieland one makes me excited and melancholy and really satisfied every time I hear it. I love that song.

GREENWOOD: That's cool. The guys who played it, they're 84... and we were only supposed to have them there for two hours, and we kept them there all day and most of the night. [Laughs] It was touch and go. But that was a really fun day, recording a band like that. Yeah, I love that song, too.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Paul, you have a dedication at the end of this movie to one of your heroes, Robert Altman. But this is one of your least Altmanesque films. A lot of it is one character out in the desert, with long silences suddenly giving way to screeching strings. It reminded me of 2001: A Space Odyssey, where Stanley Kubrick had the silence of space and then suddenly ''The Blue Danube'' or one of the more dissonant pieces he used.

ANDERSON: Well, it's so hard to do anything that doesn't owe some kind of debt to what Stanley Kubrick did with music in movies. Inevitably, you're going to end up doing something that he's probably already done before. It can all seem like we're falling behind whatever he came up with. ''Singin' in the Rain'' in Clockwork Orange — that was the first time I became so aware of music in movies. So no matter how hard you try to do something new, you're always following behind. The whole opening 20 minutes was meant to be silent. I always had a dream about trying to make a movie that had no dialogue in it, that was just music and pictures. I still haven't done it yet, but I tried to get close in the beginning.

GREENWOOD: Sometimes Paul would describe the thing as kind of close to the horror-film genre. And we talked about how The Shining had lots of Penderecki and stuff in it. So yeah. I think it was about not necessarily just making period music, which very traditionally you would do. But because they were traditional orchestral sounds, I suppose that's what we hoped was a little unsettling, even though you know all the sounds you're hearing are coming from very old technology. You can just do things with the classical orchestra that do unsettle you, that are sort of slightly wrong, that have some kind of undercurrent that's slightly sinister. Which is what's happening with this film sometimes. Part of what I picked up on and got excited about is that it's the end of the 19th Century. A lot of [things are] just implied, so it's not a horror film in that sense, because people are sort of being polite, but there's a sense of darkness going on at the same time. I love that kind of stuff, when things are unspoken.

ANDERSON: I guess when you have a title like that, the music better be a little bit scary.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: The score is extremely in-your-face in this film, as in all of Paul's movies. To love his films is really to go along with his musical choices. It's not like anyone could say, ''I loved the movie but hated the music.'' It's really integral — and loud. And it often stretches across different scenes.

GREENWOOD: You're right, when Paul puts the music in a film, it's very upfront. I realize now that I had an easy ride, really, in that it's the first time I've done anything like it, and I thought a film soundtrack would involve having to hit certain points and then duck out for people to say things, and [each cue] would all be over in exactly 63 seconds, or whatever. But instead, it's three minutes of all music [and no dialogue], to the image, quite often. It's mad, really. I was a bit like a kid in a candy store, in that I was just given free reign to write a lot of music with the film or certain scenes vaguely in mind. So I just wrote and wrote. I thought I'd have to be timing things, and the musicians would all have to play to click tracks. But it was the opposite to that. It felt like a really musical thing to be doing, although I'm sure that's not how it normally is for a soundtrack composer.

ANDERSON: To make a film, the final big collaborator that you have is the composer. Jonny was really one of the first people to see the film. And when he came back with a bunch of music, it actually helped show me what his impression of the film was. Which was terrific, because I had no impression. I had no idea what we were doing. And really, you have so many people that you collaborate with along this whole road of making a film, and you get to the end, and you're kind of face to face with two people really at the end: the editor and the composer. It's like the bottom of the Christmas tree. There's just the three of you standing, holding all of these people's work together, trying to make sense out of it. It was funny, because some of the stuff that Jonny came back with initially didn't make any sense to me at all. And he was smart enough to avoid me for a few days, so that I could let it all settle.

GREENWOOD: That's interesting, what Paul's saying about coming in later. It's a weird position to be in. It's only now I'm kind of realizing how weird that was, to be having fresh opinions about something that's already involved so many people.

ANDERSON: Or that you have the ability to ruin everybody else's good work...

GREENWOOD: Really ruin it! No, I think in the end, it's all right. I think we got away with it.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Did you ask Jonny to score this film because of his Bodysong score, because of ''Popcorn Superhet Receiver,'' or just from being a Radiohead fan?

ANDERSON: I saw Bodysong at a film festival in Rotterdam on a rainy afternoon. I'd obviously been aware of Jonny's work with Radiohead and tried to follow that as much as I could, and I just fell in love with what he did for that film. It was near while I was about halfway through writing the film, I guess, [that he thought about Greenwood]. Then when I heard ''Popcorn,'' I just loved the sounds of it, and I just couldn't put my finger on what I liked about it. Because I would always hear it when it wasn't on, like a phantom limb, just the strange sounds of it. I had been listening to it over and over again, and then when not listening to it, would feel like I had left the stereo on in the other room or something.

GREENWOOD: That's mad, because that's exactly why I wrote that! That's really weird, that you saw that in it. The whole [conceptual] idea was about when you think there's some music playing, and there isn't. You know, like when you're doing a Hoover or a vacuum cleaner and you think there's a radio playing as well, and you turn it off, but there isn't any music on. That was the starting-off point for that piece, anyway.

ANDERSON: I just saw a report that people are reporting that they feel like their phone is buzzing in their pockets, even though they don't have their phone in their pockets.

GREENWOOD: Fantastic!

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Did the collaboration go smoothly?

ANDERSON: You know, I'm really not that competent at describing things musically. I think Jonny was probably amazingly patient with hearing some really long winded descriptions of things that made no reference to how you could do it musically.

GREENWOOD: It's funny, I found an early e-mail from Paul, and it just says ''I've got complete trust that what you do is going to be great. Don't worry. I believe it's going to be fine.'' I think I was slowly trying to back out, like a few months ago, thinking, I can't do this. I can't go on with this. It was a combination of [Anderson's reassurance] and just general enthusiasm for the whole project that just made me think it was going to be all right. And when that happens, you just always want to do your best for that person. I'm sure it was very sort of psychological mind games going on, to get me so happy. But it was a really happy time.

ANDERSON: By the same token, I just really wanted to do really right by Jonny, too, wanting to try to protect all these pieces that he made, and find the right use for them. There were some times where I was concerned with it a little too much, because there were so many things that were so wonderful, but just couldn't fit in the film. I was probably more despondent about it than he was.

GREENWOOD: It did feel like a lot of early drafts had too much music in them. But just being in a room full of string players, when they start up, whether it's an 80-piece orchestra or string quartet, is the most addictive sound.

ANDERSON: Just speaking for myself, it is such an intimidating set of circumstances to walk in and see 80 string players sitting there. I mean, I spent the better part of the first day, while incredibly excited, just completely terrified and paranoid. I went over to the corner and felt very out of place. But once I warmed up to it, God, it was thrilling. They were all so generous, too, and very inviting, and once you got to that place where you could actually stand down on the floor and feel not like an imposter but like a cheerleader or supporter and could actually ask for something, it felt great.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Jonny, now that the Radiohead album In Rainbows has gotten out there for people to download and hear, how do you feel the release of the album went? Do you feel like you did the right thing, putting it out that way?

GREENWOOD: Yeah, I'm just glad that everyone's hearing it at the same time — because that was the point, really.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: With all this talk about the radical distribution model for the new Radiohead album, Paul, I wondered if what they did might have inspired you to think that maybe you should just put your new movie up on the web and let people pay whatever they want for it... I'm joking. I think.

ANDERSON: God, I mean, it's every person's dream, I suppose, to have ownership. Unfortunately, to make a film this size, it would be impossible to finance myself. I'd have to come up with something that I could do on a smaller scale so that I could do that. Because you don't get pride of ownership when you make a film. You get pride of authorship. And you get paid for it — that's the switch-off. But movies aren't far behind [music] in falling apart — I mean, the business itself. One of the films that I have the fondest memory of seeing is Gallipoli, because I knew absolutely nothing about it. My brother said, ''Let's go see this movie.'' And I said, ''What's it about?'' He said, ''I'm not going to tell you.'' And I hadn't seen the poster, I hadn't seen a trailer or anything, and it was such an amazing experience. [Talking about the Radiohead release] just made me think of it. To be able to just kind of get something as close to the bone as possible, without too much intrusion...

GREENWOOD: I'm a great one for reading movie reviews in, like, one second, and you think Oh, that's gonna be worth seeing. I don't know, it's like looking at the end of a book before you read it. It's best avoided, really, so you've got no idea what's coming.


http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20155516_20155530_20158721,00.html
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pubrick on November 07, 2007, 09:42:39 PM
that article is not very spoilery. i recommend to start at the end with the last question and work your way up. there's some good stuff in there about kubrick, giving away movies for free, other tings. the second question has a bit of detail about the first 20mins you might want to avoid, but it's minor stuff and the reply they give is spoiler free so you can read the A without the Q.

i havn't heard the score, i don't know how/why ppl would want to hear the score before seeing the movie.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: theyarelegion on November 07, 2007, 11:50:57 PM
Quote from: cowboykurtis on November 07, 2007, 01:13:27 PM
The new issue of MEAN MAGAIZINE has a pretty good 4 page interview with Anderson for TWBB

http://www.meanmag.net/home.htm

I read it in B&N earlier today. Nice interview. Didn't realize he shot some of TWBB on digital..?

By the way, I'm a new poster to the boards. Well, I registered a while back but just posting now as I've decided to stop lurking!
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pubrick on November 08, 2007, 12:00:45 AM
Quote from: Omero on November 07, 2007, 11:50:57 PM
By the way, I'm a new poster to the boards. Well, I registered a while back but just posting now as I've decided to stop lurking!

i remember you. you had a great av. do stick around.

Quote from: Hedwig on May 22, 2006, 06:31:06 PM
one dog goes one way, the other dog goes the other way, and this guy's sayin, "whadda ya want from me?"

Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: theyarelegion on November 08, 2007, 12:11:08 AM
Haha, cheers, will do!
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: cowboykurtis on November 08, 2007, 11:54:35 AM
Quote from: Omero on November 07, 2007, 11:50:57 PM
Quote from: cowboykurtis on November 07, 2007, 01:13:27 PM
The new issue of MEAN MAGAIZINE has a pretty good 4 page interview with Anderson for TWBB

http://www.meanmag.net/home.htm
Didn't realize he shot some of TWBB on digital..?

I did catch that comment in the interview - i think it was a typo - he answers a question about digital aquisition formats by saying 'we couldn't have shot such bright exteriors if we hadn't used digital' - i believe it was meant to read ' we couldn't have shot such bright exteriors if we used digital'. The published comment doesn't make sense as written in the interview.
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Post by: Pozer on November 08, 2007, 01:56:01 PM
man, this movie lingers with you DAYS AFTER! 

lovelovelovelovelovelove the afterthoughts of this masterpiece!  it is the first film in AGES where you actually feel good saying out loud to others 'it's a masterpiece.'  example of what im trying to get across: 'i saw undertow.  it's a masterpiece.'  in my head: 'did i just say that out loud?  i mean it is, but now he/she's gonna see it and go 'this movie is shite.'   

i didnt even mention that the dialogue is the STRONGEST EVER.  I truly mean this: EVER!  and how HILARIOUS this movie is! 

p.s. stay THE HELL away from imdb.  the main review there has a spoiler that stuck with me and was pissed i knew about it when it came about in the film.  there is also some crap bush/religion bashing film review that has ABSOLUTELY NO MERIT WHATSOEVER IN THE HISTORY OF THINGS THAT HAVE NO MERIT.  i am officially DONE with reading any threads on imdb.

pubrick p.s. youre welcome, buddy.  and i see how it may appear as gearing towards spoilerage but was meant solely as a hype machine. 

p.p.s. wish i couldve at least said hello to ppl like lucid who were there.  whered yall sit?  i was on the side/middle kinda near the front.  paul was RIGHT THERE in front of us.  there wasnt a bad seat in the house, am i right?

p.p.p.s (or is it p.p.s.s?)  did yall say hello to paul afterwards?  what a treat, man.  actually now i remember - i breezed by all of you to do so  :yabbse-wink: 

saw him crossing the street with posse afterwards while waiting for a taxi.  we started to follow to see what bar he might end up at, but it quickly turned into this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DExkPNbo7I) so we moved on.
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Post by: elpablo on November 08, 2007, 04:04:13 PM
Quote from: pozer on November 08, 2007, 01:56:01 PM
saw him crossing the street with posse afterwards while waiting for a taxi.  we started to follow to see what bar he might end up at, but it quickly turned into this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DExkPNbo7I) so we moved on.

haha the same thing happened with me and herzog the other week.

this movie needs to screen in philadelphia already.
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Post by: john on November 08, 2007, 04:16:00 PM
Quote from: pozer on November 08, 2007, 01:56:01 PM
man, this movie lingers with you DAYS AFTER! 


Yes!

The next morning, I woke up and the first thought I had was something from the film and the image, the moment, the sound involved with that moment just fucking stuck with me. It was something I'd clearly caught during viewing, but it obviously lodged itself far enough into m brain to stay there and it devoured me all day.

Everyone I've talked to since that would give a shit about this film has had to endure vague ramblings with me trying to emphasize how much of a triumph this film is without really saying anything about it.

I'm kind of glad I can't immediately go back and see this, which I would - many times over. Because there's no way for me to dillute the feelings that still stick with me from it.

I also read that imdb review calling the film anti-Bush and pro-liberal.... man, fuck that guy. That review didn't even warrent enough merit to be offended by.... just like most reviews on imdb, it existed only to take up space. This film is so much bigger, and deeper, and far more true than any political agenda passed into a film could be. Even if it hints at that, it's not concerned with that. It's ultimately so much more than that.
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Post by: Stefen on November 08, 2007, 04:58:18 PM
Can someone who's seen it PM their aim or msn name so I can ask them questions about the ending? Usually I'd ask pete but he's not answering my messages and is probably trying to use his viewing as a way to trick a girl into having sex with him. Despicable. 
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Post by: Satcho9 on November 09, 2007, 11:21:07 AM
Who else is going to the LA screening?

"The event will be held Thursday, Nov. 15 at 7 p.m. at the Leonard H. Goldenson Theater, 5220 Lankershim Blvd., North Hollywood, Calif.

Admission is free. To RSVP, call (323) 956-1006. Seating is limited. Please arrive early."

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Post by: modage on November 09, 2007, 11:29:37 AM
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!

I THINK WE HAVE CALIFORNIA COVERED!

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Post by: MacGuffin on November 09, 2007, 11:36:02 AM
Quote from: Satcho9 on November 09, 2007, 11:21:07 AM
Who else is going to the LA screening?

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Post by: Pozer on November 09, 2007, 12:23:38 PM
ill be there.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on November 09, 2007, 12:31:03 PM
Quote from: modage on November 09, 2007, 11:29:37 AM
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!

I THINK WE HAVE CALIFORNIA COVERED!



It fucking sucks. If they don't announce a special screening for Upper Peninsula of Michigan I'll just die.
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Post by: picolas on November 09, 2007, 05:17:17 PM
worst marketing ever.
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Post by: theyarelegion on November 09, 2007, 05:43:05 PM
As soon as I saw "FUCK YOU L.A." under the forum I knew it was good! I'll be there. Even if it is in the valley...
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Post by: Alexandro on November 09, 2007, 07:06:09 PM
Quote from: Fernando on November 06, 2007, 08:47:17 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on November 06, 2007, 06:49:52 AM
i still don't know when it's coming to aus. but rest assured it will be around the same time or later, maybe even after the oscars. it sucks that i'm gonna hav to get my hands on a screener or even the US dvd release itself and spoil it on a small screen if i wanna make through 2008 alive.

IMDb has 1 January 2008, and I don't know why it has that date as in the front page since I'm in México and it should have the Mexican release date, of course as for this moment there isn't a release date for us, but I couldn't care less about it, I'll go to either to Laredo or McAllen Tx. to see it. If Cron or alexandro want to join me they're welcome.  :yabbse-smiley:

Quote from: picolas on November 06, 2007, 03:34:23 AM
feel free to post non-spoiler reviews here, though!

please NOW!

are there good theaters in laredo or mcallen?
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Post by: Pubrick on November 09, 2007, 07:27:37 PM
The screening will be followed by a Q&A with Anderson and Day-Lewis.

Quote from: picolas on November 09, 2007, 05:17:17 PM
worst marketing ever.

author of curious george getting murdered as the movie was coming out was worst marketing ever.

this spill is hopefully a sign of things to come for LA.

and the excessive west coast love is PTA's way of getting back at NYC for the bedbugs. am i right ppl?
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Post by: SiliasRuby on November 09, 2007, 10:25:25 PM
I'll be there......Yes, so happy and on my birthday too....what a great gift.
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Post by: Stefen on November 10, 2007, 12:48:23 AM
The worst thing about Magnolia is that it doesn't take place in NYC. That's probably my biggest beef with the flick. 
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Post by: theyarelegion on November 10, 2007, 05:36:29 PM
Shit. The mailbox for the RSVP number is full. They better clear it out!
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Post by: MacGuffin on November 10, 2007, 08:35:44 PM
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The New Frontier's Man
By LYNN HIRSCHBERG; New York Times

IN 1976, WHEN HE WAS 19, Daniel Day-Lewis, who is British and was trained in the grand theatrical tradition of Shakespeare and the classics, saw "Taxi Driver" and, despite the considerable weight and seeming obligation of his heritage, realized that what he longed to be was an American actor. "It was a real illumination," Day-Lewis told me late in August as he sat at the rough wood dining table of a duplex apartment in downtown Manhattan, where he and his wife, Rebecca Miller, and their two boys stay when in New York. "I saw 'Taxi Driver' five or six times in the first week, and I was astonished by its sheer visceral beauty. I just kept going back — I didn't know America, but that was a glimpse of what America might be, and I realized that, contrary to expectation, I wanted to tell American stories." It was raining hard outside, and Day-Lewis, who has the look of an elegant vagabond, was wearing clothes seemingly chosen many years ago for their utility and subtle details. His loose denim jeans were worn soft and white by use and the once-vibrant red plaid of his shirt had aged into a warm maroon. Day-Lewis is tall and lean and has tattoos circling his lower arms and the permanently inked handprints of his and Miller's two sons climbing up his body to his shoulders. There were gold loops in each earlobe, and although he had left his sturdy, beat-up leather work boots outside the front door and was padding around in his socks, Day-Lewis still had a kind-of-jaunty porkpie hat on his head. The hat covered his long black hair and set off the contours of his face, which is dominated by his noble, bashed nose.

"Where I come from, it was a heresy to say you wanted to be in movies, leave alone American movies," Day-Lewis continued, as he ate a chicken-salad sandwich. "We were all encouraged to believe that the classics of the theater were the fiery hoops through which you'd have to pass if you were going to have any self-esteem as a performer. It never occurred to me that that was the case. One of the great privileges of having grown up in a middle-class literary English household, but having gone to school in the front lines in Southeast London, was that I became half-street-urchin and half-good-boy at home. I knew that dichotomy was possible. England is obsessed with where you came from, and they are determined to keep you in that place, be it in a drawing room or in the gutter. The great tradition of liberalism in England is essentially a sponge that absorbs all possibility of change. America looked different to me: the idea of America as a place of infinite possibilities was defined for me through the movies. I'm glad I did the classical work that I did, but it just wasn't for me. I'm a little bit perverse, and I just hate doing the thing that's the most obvious."

Day-Lewis laughed and drank some grapefruit juice. While he may appear a bit rough, his demeanor is courtly. You have to possess something utterly to push it away, and whether it's his extreme good looks, which he obscures beneath the trappings of a bohemian pirate, or his cultured background, which he disparages, Day-Lewis has an intense attraction to the opposite of whatever he came by easily. He is particularly compelled by the idea of spontaneity, but there is nothing sloppy or haphazard about him, and that lends Day-Lewis, despite his careworn clothes, a quality of grace. He is most voluble and passionate on the subject of film. He loves even bad movies and likes to analyze the work of actors past and present. Day-Lewis reveres the greats — Brando, DeNiro — but he is intrigued by all kinds of performances. He dislikes John Wayne, loves Gary Cooper, prefers the Jimmy Stewart of Capra's classic pictures to the Stewart of Anthony Mann's westerns and is fascinated by Clint Eastwood. "I used to go to all-night screenings of his movies," Day-Lewis recalled. "I'd stagger out at 5 in the morning, trying to be loose-limbed and mean and taciturn." He paused. "My love for American movies was like a secret that I carried around with me. I always knew I could straddle different worlds. I'd grown up in two different worlds and if you can grow up in two different worlds, you can occupy four. Or six. Why put a limit on it?"

Since 1992, when he deftly navigated two identities as Hawkeye, the heroic white frontiersman raised as a Native American, in "Last of the Mohicans," Day-Lewis has played many Americans. If Martin Scorsese, who is, of course, the director of "Taxi Driver," had not been the one to approach him about the role of the vaguely Eurocentric Newland Archer in "The Age of Innocence," he would have turned it down. "Too English," Day-Lewis explained. "I was hoping he'd ask me to do something more rough-and-tumble." When Scorsese did, with "Gangs of New York," in 2000, Day-Lewis thrilled to the chance to play Bill the Butcher, a violent king of the city. In his latest film, "There Will Be Blood," which opens next month and was written and directed by Paul Thomas Anderson, Day-Lewis portrays a man who is searching for his fortune in oil in turn-of-the-century California. The character is loosely based on Edward Doheny, who started out as an itinerant prospector looking for gold and silver and became the millionaire who headed the Pan American Petroleum and Transport Company. "There Will Be Blood" is about the lure of the West, the intoxicating sense of freedom and opportunity that can be found in new lands and the costs of huge and sudden success. There are shades of current politics in the film — the oil and the greed still resonate — but it is, mostly, a "Citizen Kane"-esque character study about the corrupting desire for power and riches. The tale it tells is, in many ways, a story about what is right, and wrong, with America.

"I was deeply unsettled by the script," Day-Lewis said. "For me, that is a sure sign. If you remain unsettled by a piece of writing, it means you are not watching the story from the outside; you've already taken a step toward it. When I'm drawn to something, I take a resolute step backward, and I ask myself if I can really serve this story as well as it needs to be served. If I don't think I can do that, no matter how appealing, I will decline. What finally takes over, what took over with this movie, is an illusion of inevitability." Day-Lewis smiled. "I think: Can this really be true? Is this happening to me again? Is there no way to avoid this?"

IT WAS COMMENTS LIKE THESE that have led Jim Sheridan, the director of three films starring Daniel Day-Lewis — including 1989's "My Left Foot," for which he won the Academy Award for Best Actor — to remark that Day-Lewis "hates acting." Sheridan says he believes that Day-Lewis completely rejects the idea of "acting" an emotion or moment. Instead, like the greats he admires (Brando and De Niro, before they started working for the money), he needs to fully embody a character. That sort of detailed, engulfing work is time-consuming and enervating. Which partly explains why Day-Lewis has long gaps between roles and has only made four films in the last 10 years.

Part of Day-Lewis's hesitation comes from the knowledge that his method of working demands near-total immersion in the life of his character. Despite the fact that he is the most eloquent of men, able to speak extemporaneously in flowing paragraphs without the use of colloquialisms, he is unwilling to expose the mechanics of his acting process. "It's not that I want to pull the shutters down," Day-Lewis said, as he finished his sandwich. "It's just that people have such a misconception about what it is I do. They think the character comes from staying in the wheelchair or being locked in the jail or whatever extravagant thing they choose to focus their fantasies on. Somehow, it always seems to have a self-flagellatory aspect to it. But that's just the superficial stuff. Most of the movies that I do are leading me toward a life that is utterly mysterious to me. My chief goal is to find a way to make that life meaningful to other people."

As a teenager, Day-Lewis studied woodworking and, true to the divide in his nature, he wanted to become a craftsman — a maker, rather than a designer, of furniture. He enjoyed the tools, the workshop, the construction. Before he applied to theater school, the Bristol Old Vic ("I picked just one because then it would be a sign from the gods if it was not meant to be," Day-Lewis explained), he applied for an apprenticeship with a well-known cabinetmaker. When he was accepted at drama school, he committed himself fully to acting, but Day-Lewis never gave up his interest in the process of honing a skill. For his films, at least initially, imagining the life of his characters often involves a kind of physical invention of their world. During "Last of the Mohicans," he built a canoe, learned to track and skin animals and perfected the use of a 12-pound flintlock gun, which he took everywhere he went, even to a Christmas dinner. He was first attracted to "My Left Foot," the story of Christy Brown, a man with cerebral palsy who became a renowned painter and writer in Ireland, by the opening scene of the script: Christy's left foot puts a record on a turntable, there's a skip and the foot picks the needle up and then puts it down again. "I knew it couldn't be done," Day-Lewis said, "and that intrigued me." After weeks of practice and eight weeks spent with cerebral-palsy patients, Day-Lewis mastered the scene on the first take. For "There Will be Blood," he studied the historic period for nearly two years and became comfortable with the tools of California oilmen circa 1900.

But that research, as well as the kitchen table he built for "Ballad of Jack and Rose" and the heavy knives he learned to throw for "Gangs of New York" and the scent that he thought Newland Archer would favor in "The Age of Innocence," is all just a preliminary inquiry into what, finally, emerges on screen, fully drawn. Those details, however interesting, are like mood lighting — they set the stage for seduction, but they do not explain how Day-Lewis melds with the characters he conjures.

"This work requires an unusual combination of qualities," Day-Lewis said. He picked up a colander full of washed cherries and headed into a small cozy den off the large rectangular living room. The apartment was sparsely decorated with comfortable chairs and a well-worn pale blue sofa. The couch was piled with folded bedding — his younger son, Cashel, had left his bed upstairs and slept there. "He wanted to be nearer to us," Day-Lewis remarked. There was a large, perfectly realized model sailboat placed on a low table. "That was a gift from Rebecca," Day-Lewis said. "One of the few things I did with my dad was sail a boat in the round pond at Hyde Park." A beautiful bleached-wood grandfather clock stood against the kitchen wall, and a large painting of a vivid garden hung in the entry to the master bedroom. "I did that one," Day-Lewis said, as he sat on a low desk chair. Strewn on the floor around him were several motorcycle magazines: one of Day-Lewis's passions is MotoGP, the competitive bike tournament, which is popular everywhere (although somewhat less so in America). This summer, he borrowed a GSXR 1000 bike and rode at 120 m.p.h. from Los Angeles to Laguna Seca to cheer on his hero, the legendary champion Valentino Rossi. When Day-Lewis spoke about Rossi, it was in the same adulatory tones he reserved for De Niro, Brando and Montgomery Clift. "I'm a groupie," he said. "Rossi is a genius. There are some parallels between what he does and what those actors do — his work requires both a great deal of discipline and a wildness of spirit. With acting, there is always that intangible aspect that goes beyond the practical framework. Brando had that — the freedom that he had was more the instinctive freedom of an animal at times than a human. And De Niro! The world he offered in his performances had a palpable humanity. I was utterly sure that he was that man in 'Taxi Driver.' I have no idea by what means he arrived at that but, I dare say, at some point, he convinced himself that he was that man too."

Part of what Day-Lewis admires so much about American movies is their lack of insistence on the kind of brilliant dialogue that characterizes much of the theater. He disparages the idea of clever talk, or the British gift for language. Day-Lewis bristled when I mentioned, admiringly, that he was so articulate. "I am more greatly moved by people who struggle to express themselves," he said, sounding a little misunderstood. "Maybe it's a middle-class British hang-up, but I prefer the abstract concept of incoherence in the face of great feeling to beautiful, full sentences that convey little emotion."

Day-Lewis paused and ate a few cherries. "It was always assumed that the classics were a good line of work for me because I had a decent voice and the right nose. But anybody who comes from an essentially cynical European society is going to be bewitched by the sheer enthusiasm of the New World. And in America, the articulate use of language is often regarded with suspicion. Especially in the West. Look at the president. He could talk like an educated New Englander if he chose to. Instead, he holds his hands like a man who swings an ax. Bush understands, very astutely, that many of the people who are going to vote for him would regard him less highly if he knew how to put words together. He would no longer be one of them. In Europe, the tradition is one of oratory. But in America, a man's man is never spendthrift with words." Day-Lewis smiled. "This, of course, is much more appealing in the movies than it is in politics."

WHEN DANIEL DAY-LEWIS agreed to star in "There Will Be Blood," the writer-director Paul Thomas Anderson suggested he watch a number of films, including "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre," which is a kind of existential western. The 1948 film, which stars Humphrey Bogart, follows three Americans as they hunt for gold and find wealth in Mexico. Like many westerns, the movie is moralistic at heart: the character of the men is tested by their sudden good fortune and, to quote from the film's director John Huston, they "stew in their own juice."

"It's my favorite movie," Anderson told me one afternoon in early October. The writer-director of "Boogie Nights" and "Punch Drunk Love," among other films, Anderson has always seemed interested in how fate intersects with character, especially in the openness of California. "All of life's questions and answers are in 'The Treasure of Sierra Madre,' " he said. "It's about greed and ambition and paranoia and looking at the worst parts of yourself. When I was writing 'There Will Be Blood,' I would put 'The Treasure of the Sierra Madre' on before I went to bed at night, just to fall asleep to it."

Anderson began writing the script when he came across the muckraking novel "Oil!" by Upton Sinclair, in a bookstore in London. "I was homesick," he recalled, "and the book had a painting of California on the cover." He ended up adapting only the first 150 pages of "Oil!" whose main character was a composite of many men, among them Edward Doheny. "After a few trips to Bakersfield, where they have museums devoted to the early oilmen, I started to get a sense of the film. The museums are largely trailers with a lot of oil equipment lying around the yard. Back in the day, enough people had cameras, and they took a lot of pictures. Oil fields were an interesting thing to photograph, and that research made it easy to put the pieces of their times together."

The movie concentrates on the financial ascent and spiritual decline of a Doheny-like figure. "Doheny set out from the East Coast at the tail end of the wild, wild West," Anderson continued. "Men from all over the country were coming out to the New Mexico territory to make their fortune. And they started looking for oil using many of the same techniques that they had used to look for silver." Day-Lewis was struck by their zeal. "I read a lot of correspondence dating from that period," he told me in his apartment. "Decent middle-class lives with wives and children were abandoned to pursue this elusive possibility. They were bank clerks and shipping agents and teachers. They all fled West for a sniff of cheap money. And they made it up as they went along. No one knew how to drill for oil. Initially, they scooped it out of the ground in saucepans. It was man at his most animalistic, sifting through filth to find bright, sparkly things."

"There Will be Blood" presents a quintessentially American story of manifest destiny twinned with the lessons of a parable. "Back then," Day-Lewis said, "men would get the fever. They would keep digging, always with the idea that next time they'll throw the dice and the money will fall out of the sky. It killed a lot of men, it broke others, still more were reduced to despair and poverty, but they still believed in the promise of the West." In the movie work he chooses to accept, Day-Lewis is often drawn to the push-pull of ambitious dreams and their consequences, as reflected in a kind of frontiersman. Daniel Plainview, in "There Will Be Blood," is in certain ways a curdled version of the man playing him: the fever can grip an actor too.

It was difficult to raise the money for "There Will Be Blood," which gave Day-Lewis almost two years to prepare for the role. He spent nearly all that time in Ireland, where he and his family live for much of the year in a home in the countryside outside Dublin. "I like to learn about things," Day-Lewis said. "It was just a great time trying to conceive of the impossibility of that thing. I didn't know anything about mining at the turn of the century in America. My boarding school in Kent didn't exactly teach that."

When filming started in June 2006 on a ranch in Marfa, Tex., Day-Lewis arrived in the character of Daniel Plainview. Anderson tried to shoot the script in sequence and most of the sets (with the notable exception of the real Doheny mansion, which has an in-house bowling alley and which is located in Beverly Hills) were within the confines of the vast ranch. "The ranch," Day-Lewis recalled, "allowed you to have the illusion of an adventure that's shared to the exclusion of all other things and people. We were drilling for oil, and that was that."

Halfway through the 60-day shoot, Anderson realized that the second lead actor, who plays Plainview's nemesis, was not strong enough. He was replaced by the versatile young actor Paul Dano, but three weeks of scenes with Day-Lewis needed to be reshot. During "Gangs of New York," Day-Lewis would stay in character and deliberately glare at his co-star, Leonardo DiCaprio, mirroring the contentious dynamic that these men had in the film. While DiCaprio withstood the pressure (and Dano thrived on it) there are reports that the first actor suffered from intimidation. "It just wasn't the right fit," Anderson explained diplomatically.

"In the beginning on 'There Will Be Blood,' " Day-Lewis recalled, "we were struggling." He looked almost gleeful. "It's always what doesn't work that is most useful." Of course, this sounds more like a Brit than an American. There's a subtlety in Day-Lewis's performance in this movie that may stem from his outsiderness. He grew up on Shakespeare, not westerns, and as a result, he is not steeped in clichés about oil barons, prospectors and their ilk. Unlike an American actor who might have approached the project with big archetypes in mind, Day-Lewis invented the character. Which is more or less what the West has always allowed.

ON AN UNUSUALLY WARM and bright day in September, Day-Lewis was driving his black, beat-up BMW through the narrow country roads in the gorgeous, undeveloped tree-covered mountains south of Dublin. We took a crossroad called Sally Gap, heading up a steep climb toward a spot called Luggala, where the view, Day-Lewis hinted, would, in some fundamental way, explain all that he loved about this country. He began visiting Ireland with his father, Cecil Day-Lewis, the poet laureate of England, when he was 4. Cecil, like Daniel, occupied many worlds: he was born in Ireland, and every summer, Daniel and his older sister, Tamasin, were taken to live in country inns along its western coast. "It was glorious," Day-Lewis said. He was wearing a burgundy corduroy shirt, pants in a faded mustard check and a belted olive green rain jacket that was so weatherbeaten the thick cotton had softened to suede. He clearly loved the road and was an excellent driver. "From the day we arrived here," Day-Lewis continued, "my sense of Ireland's importance has never diminished. Everything here seemed exotic to us. Just the sound of the west of Ireland in a person's voice can affect me deeply." In 1993, after spending much of his time there, Day-Lewis also obtained an Irish passport and now holds dual citizenship. "I dare say it was still considered to be an abandonment of England," he remarked, as he neatly passed a quickly oncoming car. "A betrayal! A heresy! It is not expected that someone from my background will leave England. But I've committed so many heresies that there's no sense in not making the final gesture."

Cecil Day-Lewis was also deeply drawn to Ireland and wrote "The Whispering Roots and Other Poems," which underscored his ancestral ties to the country. When Daniel was born, his father announced his birth by publishing a poem entitled "The Newborn." In part, it reads: "We time-worn folk renew/Ourselves at your enchanted spring,/As though mankind's begun/Again in you./This is your birthday and our thanksgiving."

At the time of Daniel's birth, Cecil Day-Lewis was 53. He had worked as a translator and had written pulp novels under an alias. One, "The Smiler With the Knife," a spy thriller with a political theme, was adapted for the movies by Orson Welles, but the film was never made. Cecil Day-Lewis was a Communist in his 30s and was close to W. H. Auden and Stephen Spender. Daniel's mother, Jill Balcon, was his father's second wife and an actress whose father, Sir Michael Balcon, was the head of Ealing Studios, one of England's predominant film studios. Cecil, like a good socialist, sent Daniel to a public school in South London rather than a posh academy. When his parents realized that Daniel was not being properly educated, they enrolled him in boarding school, where he was miserable. Finally, Daniel attended a progressive school called Bedales. Day-Lewis's academic travails introduced him to a wide range of British society. "I came from the educated middle class," Day-Lewis said, "but I identified with the working classes. Those were the people I looked up to. The lads whose fathers worked on the docks or in shipping yards or were shopkeepers. I knew that I wasn't part of that world, but I was intrigued by it. They had a different way of communicating. People who delight in conversation are often using that as a means to not say what is on their minds. When I became interested in theater, the work I admired was being done by working-class writers. It was often about the inarticulate. I later saw that same thing in De Niro's early work — it was the most sublime struggle of a man trying to express himself. There was such poetry in that for me."

When he was in his early teens, Day-Lewis performed a one-boy version of Harold Pinter's "Dumb Waiter," and he was an extra in the film "Sunday Bloody Sunday." "I was just a local kid," he said, as he whizzed past a busload of tourists out to see the countryside. "I got to come out of the church, the same church where I sang in the choir, and scratch up a row of cars — a Jag, a Bentley — parked in front. I thought, I get paid for this! Years later, I saw the director, John Schlesinger, at the Edinburgh festival, where we were showing 'My Beautiful Laundrette.' I play a hooligan punk in that too. I said to Schlesinger, I guess I haven't progressed much."

In 1975, he revised his performance in "The Dumb Waiter" and auditioned for the Bristol theater school. "I thought my heart would break if I didn't get in," he told me. At school, Day-Lewis immediately bristled at being boxed into the classics ("One teacher was always trying to throw a cloak around me") but took refuge in the work of Barrie Keefe, a Thatcher-era playwright, who wrote vivid dispatches from working-class life.

Day-Lewis also studied a form of acting rooted in the Stanislavsky System. "It was like happening on utopia," he said, as we continued up the mountain. "The thing that Stanislavsky lays out is how you do the thing the first time every time — 1,000 times. That's the idea you're always searching for." Sir Laurence Olivier famously dismissed Stanislavsky's teachings; the technique was much more accepted by American actors. "Olivier might have been a much better actor on film if he hadn't had that flippant attitude," Day-Lewis said with annoyance. "Olivier was a remarkable actor, but he was entirely missing the point consistently. He felt that film was an inferior form." Day-Lewis paused. "For a few years at school I tried to play the roles they wanted me to play, but it became less and less interesting to ponce around the place. Even now, when I sometimes think of doing a play, I think of rehearsal rooms and people hugging and everyone talking over cups of coffee because they are nervous. It's both very touching and it makes me a little nauseous and claustrophobic. Too much talk. I don't rehearse at all in film if I can help it. In talking a character through, you define it. And if you define it, you kill it dead." Day-Lewis paused. "I've managed to create a sense of banishment in so many different areas of my life. I live in Ireland, not England. I make films in America. And now I'm banished from the theater because I've slagged it off so much. And I did the unspeakable thing of fleeing from 'Hamlet.' "

His voice trailed off. The last time he was onstage was during a 1989 production of "Hamlet" at the National Theatre in London. Day-Lewis had already begun appearing in films, and "My Left Foot" was about to win him an Oscar. During the play, he had a strange sensation that he was talking to his father, who died of pancreatic cancer when Day-Lewis was 15. Unnerved, he walked off the stage and never returned to that stage or, to date, to any other. Those close to Day-Lewis warned me not to bring up the "Hamlet" incident, and I didn't, but it clearly was a moment of demarcation: he realized his place was elsewhere.

"Enough talk," Day-Lewis said as we roared more quickly up the mountain. He slid a CD of Irish folk music by the band Planxty into the sound system, and the car was filled with layers of mandolins and guitars. "Nothing I say will be more eloquent than this music," Day-Lewis said. The soundtrack was a perfect accompaniment to the endless gray sky, which seemed to collide with the brilliant green of the trees. After five minutes of music and nature and increasingly steep, narrow roads, Day-Lewis neatly parked the car near the brim of a cliff. The view was magnificent. He got out of the car and stood in the wind, staring out at the countryside. "It's easy to love humanity when you're this far away from it," he half-joked. "But, truly, there's a quality of wildness that exists in Ireland that coincides with utter solitude. This place has always contained the spell for me."

BEFORE HE BEGAN telling American stories, Day-Lewis wanted to tell Irish stories. In 1985, after his breakthrough role as the gay street punk in "My Beautiful Laundrette" and a subsequent part in Merchant-Ivory's "A Room With A View," Day-Lewis resisted the idea of playing English men in English movies. "Why would I want to play middle-aged middle-class Englishmen?" Day-Lewis remarked as we sat in Hunter's Hotel in a town called Rathnew. The small room was cozy, with chintz-covered chairs, and a fire was burning. "It's a bog fire," Day-Lewis explained. "It has the smell of earth." Day-Lewis ordered tea and scones and removed his tweed cap. When he was younger, the proprietor scolded Daniel and a drunk friend, who threw up in the fireplace, putting out the flames. "She said, 'Several generations of guests in proper attire have been coming here,' " Day-Lewis recalled. " 'I hope you're not going to lower the tone.' " He laughed at the memory. There is something about Ireland that reassures and bolsters his rebellious spirit. In England, perhaps he feared he would be squelched, made ordinary, old. He intentionally chose to play the priggish, snobbish Cecil Vyse in "A Room With A View," he said, in order to "understand what it is to be that man and thereby avoid the possibility of ever becoming him." And that sealed it — he took his career to Ireland and America.

During the making of "My Left Foot," Day-Lewis found a slow, meticulous way that he could work. "I needed — and I still need — to create a particular environment," he said as the tea was placed on a low brass table. "I need to find the right kind of silence or light or noise. Whatever is necessary — and it is always different. I know it sounds a little fussy and a little ridiculous, but finding your own rhythm is one of the most important things you can discover about yourself. And you have to observe it. As actors, we're all encouraged to feel that each job is the last job. They plant some little electrode in your head at an early stage and you think, Be grateful, be grateful, be grateful. So, it's not without a sense of gratitude that I work. But I couldn't do this work at all unless I did it in my own rhythm. It became a choice between stopping and taking the time I needed."

He has had blue periods — depressions and retreats, even after the success of the early movies. After the filming of Milan Kundera's novel "The Unbearable Lightness of Being," in which he played Tomás, a womanizing Czech surgeon reluctantly drawn into the country's politics, Day-Lewis considered giving up acting. "I was hopelessly at sea," he told me, buttering a scone. "I was extremely unhappy most of the time. I think I probably felt I'd made a fundamental error in agreeing to do that movie even though it was the part and the film that everyone wanted to do. And God help us, that is, in itself, a reason not to do something."

After the movie was completed, Day-Lewis and Hanif Kureishi, the writer of "My Beautiful Laundrette," would telephone each other and share dark passages from Milton. Day-Lewis eventually took off and wandered though Europe with a small watercolor kit. In 1989 or so, he began a romance with the French actress Isabelle Adjani (another topic I was instructed not to mention), and they had a son, Gabriel, in 1995. She was a Buddhist, and he took to wearing a red cord around his neck that had been blessed by the Dalai Lama. But the relationship with Adjani was tumultuous; Gabriel lives with his mother, and Day-Lewis did not speak to me about him. He is clearly devoted to his two young sons with Miller. He repeatedly marveled at their abilities: Ronan (who is 9) draws beautifully and has a devastating right cross punch; Cashel (who is 5) has a potent imagination; they both loved Texas, and each perfected their father's accent in "There Will be Blood."

Before his marriage to Miller and the birth of their children, Day-Lewis would actively try to remove himself from what was familiar, going wherever his work or character took him. With the role of Christy Brown in "My Left Foot," he found a kind of refuge. "I learned how to soundproof myself," he said, taking a bite of scone. "Playing the part of Christy Brown left me with a sense of setting myself on a course, of trying to achieve something that was utterly out of reach."

He eventually made two more Irish films with Jim Sheridan, the director of "My Left Foot." For "In the Name of the Father," the story of Gerry Conlon, who was imprisoned for an act of terrorism he never committed, Day-Lewis spent time in prisons and, for an interrogation scene, went three days without sleep. For "The Boxer," he learned to box to play the main character, another Irishman caught up in the Troubles in Belfast. "I wanted to see if I loved the sport, because if I didn't love the sport, I wouldn't want to tell the story," Day-Lewis said. He found certain parallels between boxing and acting. "At its best, boxing is very pure. It requires resilience and heart and self-belief even after it's been knocked out of you. It's a certain kind of a test. And it's hard: the training alone will kill you. And that's before people start giving you a dig."

In 1991, Day-Lewis was offered "Last of the Mohicans," which required him to illustrate the history of a country he knew almost nothing about. Day-Lewis had barely visited America (the first time was on a day trip to Seattle for "My Beautiful Laundrette" when he was in his 20s), and he had never studied the country in any detail. What he knew of America came largely from the movies. " 'Last of the Mohicans' seemed impossible," Day-Lewis told me. "It scared the life out of me." For the first time, Day-Lewis was also being packaged and sold by a major Hollywood studio. Posters for "Last of the Mohicans" shouted, "the first American hero," with a close-up of Day-Lewis's face. "That was, and will always be, difficult for me," Day-Lewis said tightly. "The work itself is never anything but pure pleasure, but there's an awful lot of peripheral stuff that I find it hard to be surrounded by. I like things to be swift, because the energy you have is concentrated and can be fleeting. The great machinery of film can work against that. I have never had a positive reaction to all the stuff that supposedly promotes the film. The thought of it will make me hesitate to do any films at all."

And yet, there were those he yearned to work with. Day-Lewis met Martin Scorsese when the director was planning to direct "Schindler's List." "I thought that would be something very interesting to do," Day-Lewis said, as he poured a cup of tea for me. "But then the project went to Spielberg. When I met Martin at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel, I wanted to pick him up and cuddle him. He is a mighty man, and when he asks you to do something, you want to do it. I was struggling to escape from English drawing rooms, but because of Martin, I accepted the role in 'The Age of Innocence.' "

In 1996, he met Rebecca Miller after he completed the film version of "The Crucible," which was based on the play written by her father, Arthur Miller. Although she had worked as an actress, Miller, who is tall with dark hair and bright blue eyes, had just written and directed her first feature film: "Angela," the story of a troubled young girl. Miller has a quiet, intense only-girl-among-the-guys quality. She and Day-Lewis, both children of renowned writers, have, in many ways, a shared past. They also share a fascination with film (they wrote a comedy together). Recently, Day-Lewis and Miller attended a screening of a documentary about a Laotian who immigrated to the United States after the Communist takeover of his country in the '70s. (Ellen Kuras, who was the cinematographer on Miller's first film, "The Ballad of Jack and Rose," was one of the directors.) At the end of the film, Day-Lewis seemed particularly moved by the losses the man and his family endured. Almost instinctively, Miller ran her hand through his hair. It was a gesture of comradeship, as well as kindness.

After the birth of their children, Day-Lewis seemed in no hurry to go back to work. For five years, he pursued various interests: he even briefly apprenticed as a cobbler in Italy (at the Manolo Blahnik store in New York, Day-Lewis has been known to spend an hour studying the construction and design of the shoes). "I was not thinking about going back to work," Day-Lewis said now. "I was in dread when I knew Martin was looking for me. I was in dread of the thing that I'd been most hoping for. And that's how it works." He paused. "Before I start a film," he continued, "there is always a period where I think, I'm not sure I can do this again. I remember that before I was going to start 'There Will Be Blood,' I wondered why I had said yes. When Martin told me about Bill the Butcher in 'Gangs of New York,' I wanted to change places with that man. But even then, I did not say yes right away. I kept thinking, I'm not sure I can do this again."

Because of his commitment to a character, Day-Lewis has a very difficult time disengaging from a part. "There's a terrible sadness," he told me. "The last day of shooting is surreal. Your mind, your body, your spirit are not in any way prepared to accept that this experience is coming to an end. In the months that follow the finish of a film, you feel profound emptiness. You've devoted so much of your time to unleashing, in an unconscious way, some sort of spiritual turmoil, and even if it's uncomfortable, no part of you wishes to leave that character behind. The sense of bereavement is such that it can take years before you can put it to rest."

Since he often absents himself from the movies for years, the belief persists that Day-Lewis is indifferent or not completely committed to remaining an actor. "That is an amazing misconception," Paul Thomas Anderson told me. "Daniel loves acting so much that it becomes a quest for perfection. People don't know how Daniel can do this job the way that he does it, and my feeling is, I just can't understand how anyone could do it any other way."

Strangely, Day-Lewis has only infrequently played men of the present day. Before he met Miller, she asked him to star in "The Ballad of Jack and Rose," but he turned it down. In 2004, he agreed. Something about playing a dying man who has a nearly incestuous relationship with his 16-year-old daughter (and the fact that his wife was the director) engaged him. While making the film on Prince Edward Island, Day-Lewis lived apart from Miller and their children, during the week, in a little hut on the beach. "I was, as always, wary of taking on the role," Day-Lewis recalled. "This was a man whose soul was torn, and once you've adopted that kind of internal conflict, it's difficult to quiet."

We finished our tea and headed out into the large garden outside the hotel. In some ways, like many of Day-Lewis's films, "The Ballad of Jack and Rose" was another film about the attraction of the West. Jack Slavin, Day-Lewis's character, is a Scotsman who left his country in the '60s to forge a new identity in the possibly utopian wilds of America. "The West has always been the epicenter of possibility," Day-Lewis said as he strolled through the garden pointing out its virtues. "One of the ways we forge against mortality is to head west. It's to do with catching the sun before it slips behind the horizon." He gestured toward the sky. It was 5 p.m., and the day was darkening. "We all keep moving toward the sun, wishing to get the last ray of hope before it sets." I asked him if he looked for that quality in the characters he plays. Day-Lewis smiled enigmatically. "Life comes first," he said finally. "What I see in the characters, I first try to see in life."
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pubrick on November 10, 2007, 09:08:13 PM
here are the relevant chunks about CMBB:

Quote from: MacGuffin on November 10, 2007, 08:35:44 PM
In his latest film, "There Will Be Blood," which opens next month and was written and directed by Paul Thomas Anderson, Day-Lewis portrays a man who is searching for his fortune in oil in turn-of-the-century California. The character is loosely based on Edward Doheny, who started out as an itinerant prospector looking for gold and silver and became the millionaire who headed the Pan American Petroleum and Transport Company. "There Will Be Blood" is about the lure of the West, the intoxicating sense of freedom and opportunity that can be found in new lands and the costs of huge and sudden success. There are shades of current politics in the film — the oil and the greed still resonate — but it is, mostly, a "Citizen Kane"-esque character study about the corrupting desire for power and riches. The tale it tells is, in many ways, a story about what is right, and wrong, with America.

"I was deeply unsettled by the script," Day-Lewis said. "For me, that is a sure sign. If you remain unsettled by a piece of writing, it means you are not watching the story from the outside; you've already taken a step toward it. When I'm drawn to something, I take a resolute step backward, and I ask myself if I can really serve this story as well as it needs to be served. If I don't think I can do that, no matter how appealing, I will decline. What finally takes over, what took over with this movie, is an illusion of inevitability." Day-Lewis smiled. "I think: Can this really be true? Is this happening to me again? Is there no way to avoid this?"

WHEN DANIEL DAY-LEWIS agreed to star in "There Will Be Blood," the writer-director Paul Thomas Anderson suggested he watch a number of films, including "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre," which is a kind of existential western. The 1948 film, which stars Humphrey Bogart, follows three Americans as they hunt for gold and find wealth in Mexico. Like many westerns, the movie is moralistic at heart: the character of the men is tested by their sudden good fortune and, to quote from the film's director John Huston, they "stew in their own juice."

"It's my favorite movie," Anderson told me one afternoon in early October. The writer-director of "Boogie Nights" and "Punch Drunk Love," among other films, Anderson has always seemed interested in how fate intersects with character, especially in the openness of California. "All of life's questions and answers are in 'The Treasure of Sierra Madre,' " he said. "It's about greed and ambition and paranoia and looking at the worst parts of yourself. When I was writing 'There Will Be Blood,' I would put 'The Treasure of the Sierra Madre' on before I went to bed at night, just to fall asleep to it."

Anderson began writing the script when he came across the muckraking novel "Oil!" by Upton Sinclair, in a bookstore in London. "I was homesick," he recalled, "and the book had a painting of California on the cover." He ended up adapting only the first 150 pages of "Oil!" whose main character was a composite of many men, among them Edward Doheny. "After a few trips to Bakersfield, where they have museums devoted to the early oilmen, I started to get a sense of the film. The museums are largely trailers with a lot of oil equipment lying around the yard. Back in the day, enough people had cameras, and they took a lot of pictures. Oil fields were an interesting thing to photograph, and that research made it easy to put the pieces of their times together."

The movie concentrates on the financial ascent and spiritual decline of a Doheny-like figure. "Doheny set out from the East Coast at the tail end of the wild, wild West," Anderson continued. "Men from all over the country were coming out to the New Mexico territory to make their fortune. And they started looking for oil using many of the same techniques that they had used to look for silver." Day-Lewis was struck by their zeal. "I read a lot of correspondence dating from that period," he told me in his apartment. "Decent middle-class lives with wives and children were abandoned to pursue this elusive possibility. They were bank clerks and shipping agents and teachers. They all fled West for a sniff of cheap money. And they made it up as they went along. No one knew how to drill for oil. Initially, they scooped it out of the ground in saucepans. It was man at his most animalistic, sifting through filth to find bright, sparkly things."

"There Will be Blood" presents a quintessentially American story of manifest destiny twinned with the lessons of a parable. "Back then," Day-Lewis said, "men would get the fever. They would keep digging, always with the idea that next time they'll throw the dice and the money will fall out of the sky. It killed a lot of men, it broke others, still more were reduced to despair and poverty, but they still believed in the promise of the West." In the movie work he chooses to accept, Day-Lewis is often drawn to the push-pull of ambitious dreams and their consequences, as reflected in a kind of frontiersman. Daniel Plainview, in "There Will Be Blood," is in certain ways a curdled version of the man playing him: the fever can grip an actor too.

It was difficult to raise the money for "There Will Be Blood," which gave Day-Lewis almost two years to prepare for the role. He spent nearly all that time in Ireland, where he and his family live for much of the year in a home in the countryside outside Dublin. "I like to learn about things," Day-Lewis said. "It was just a great time trying to conceive of the impossibility of that thing. I didn't know anything about mining at the turn of the century in America. My boarding school in Kent didn't exactly teach that."

When filming started in June 2006 on a ranch in Marfa, Tex., Day-Lewis arrived in the character of Daniel Plainview. Anderson tried to shoot the script in sequence and most of the sets (with the notable exception of the real Doheny mansion, which has an in-house bowling alley and which is located in Beverly Hills) were within the confines of the vast ranch. "The ranch," Day-Lewis recalled, "allowed you to have the illusion of an adventure that's shared to the exclusion of all other things and people. We were drilling for oil, and that was that."

Halfway through the 60-day shoot, Anderson realized that the second lead actor, who plays Plainview's nemesis, was not strong enough. He was replaced by the versatile young actor Paul Dano, but three weeks of scenes with Day-Lewis needed to be reshot. During "Gangs of New York," Day-Lewis would stay in character and deliberately glare at his co-star, Leonardo DiCaprio, mirroring the contentious dynamic that these men had in the film. While DiCaprio withstood the pressure (and Dano thrived on it) there are reports that the first actor suffered from intimidation. "It just wasn't the right fit," Anderson explained diplomatically.

"In the beginning on 'There Will Be Blood,' " Day-Lewis recalled, "we were struggling." He looked almost gleeful. "It's always what doesn't work that is most useful." Of course, this sounds more like a Brit than an American. There's a subtlety in Day-Lewis's performance in this movie that may stem from his outsiderness. He grew up on Shakespeare, not westerns, and as a result, he is not steeped in clichés about oil barons, prospectors and their ilk. Unlike an American actor who might have approached the project with big archetypes in mind, Day-Lewis invented the character. Which is more or less what the West has always allowed.


and here's a great bit about scorsese:

QuoteAnd yet, there were those he yearned to work with. Day-Lewis met Martin Scorsese when the director was planning to direct "Schindler's List." "I thought that would be something very interesting to do," Day-Lewis said, as he poured a cup of tea for me. "But then the project went to Spielberg. When I met Martin at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel, I wanted to pick him up and cuddle him. He is a mighty man, and when he asks you to do something, you want to do it. I was struggling to escape from English drawing rooms, but because of Martin, I accepted the role in 'The Age of Innocence.'

of course, you'll get a lot of brilliant little anecdotes and insights if you read the whole thing, but that's ok. mac's job is to post articles and mine is to read them. that's the system.

well anyway, HERE is a bit we should talk about, from the CMBB chunk:

Halfway through the 60-day shoot, Anderson realized that the second lead actor, who plays Plainview's nemesis, was not strong enough. He was replaced by the versatile young actor Paul Dano, but three weeks of scenes with Day-Lewis needed to be reshot. During "Gangs of New York," Day-Lewis would stay in character and deliberately glare at his co-star, Leonardo DiCaprio, mirroring the contentious dynamic that these men had in the film. While DiCaprio withstood the pressure (and Dano thrived on it) there are reports that the first actor suffered from intimidation. "It just wasn't the right fit," Anderson explained diplomatically.

poor dumb kid. whoever it was just missed the opportunity of a lifetime.. like beatty in boogie, c scott in maggie, and penn in peedy.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: diggler on November 11, 2007, 01:16:21 AM
hmmmm, thanks for reading so i didn't have to. i'm also curious as to who it was.
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Post by: MacGuffin on November 11, 2007, 11:37:51 AM
Quote from: modage on January 03, 2007, 05:48:29 PM
don't remember if this has been discussed or how reputable the source is (imdb boards) but it would've been news 6 months ago.  apparently Paul Dano was hired to play Eli after another actor...

The original Eli actor was Kel O'Neill (XX/XY). Scuttlebutt on the set this week was that he demanded higher pay and got canned in the ensuing battle of wills.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0469494/board/nest/48204784
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: SiliasRuby on November 11, 2007, 03:00:22 PM
Let's see if we can get this thread to 100 pages...just I would like to see if we can do it...I believe we can.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pubrick on November 11, 2007, 08:14:43 PM
Quote from: SiliasRuby on November 11, 2007, 03:00:22 PM
Let's see if we can get this thread to 100 pages...just I would like to see if we can do it...I believe we can.

JG said the same thing 2 months ago. that was 20 pages ago (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=7428.msg249834#msg249834).

in two months the film will be out even in australia so i don't think we will need to continue posting in this thread just for a big number. assume that we can do it, as we've done it 3 times before.

and thanks mac, i musta missed that as a dumb rumour posted on the imdb boards.
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Post by: xerxes on November 12, 2007, 03:09:58 PM
Would anyone be so kind as to send me the script. It seems to have been taken down.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on November 12, 2007, 06:09:33 PM
Jeffery Wells from Hollywood Elsewhere interviews PTA (about 25 minutes):

**Minor Spoilers**


http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/images/column/111507/anderson.mp3



Blogger review:

http://mattzollerseitz.blogspot.com/2007/11/yes-its-true-there-will-be-blood.html
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Post by: theyarelegion on November 13, 2007, 05:30:50 AM
Fuck. I'm depressd. Pissed. Rang to RSVP when I got the number first and the voicemail inbox was full. Called back again and was told by a recorded message that it's booked out but all people that RSVP'd can be guaranteed a seat. Fuck! Anyone who RSVP'd for them and a guest and got nobody to bring, please PM me! :yabbse-grin: I'll buy you dinner, hah. Seriously.  :yabbse-smiley:
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Post by: MacGuffin on November 13, 2007, 10:38:10 AM
Quote from: Omero on November 13, 2007, 05:30:50 AMFuck. I'm depressd. Pissed. Rang to RSVP when I got the number first and the voicemail inbox was full. Called back again and was told by a recorded message that it's booked out but all people that RSVP'd can be guaranteed a seat. Fuck! Anyone who RSVP'd for them and a guest and got nobody to bring, please PM me! :yabbse-grin: I'll buy you dinner, hah. Seriously.  :yabbse-smiley:

Today's your lucky day. You've just become my date. I added a guest just in case a reason like this came up. You're taking me to Spago's.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: JG on November 13, 2007, 12:58:51 PM
Omero's a good fellow, take care of him Mac. 
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Post by: Gamblour. on November 13, 2007, 01:43:48 PM
Don't get fresh with him, have him back by 11:00 pm, or so help me....
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Post by: RegularKarate on November 13, 2007, 05:37:35 PM
So, I have been avoiding a lot of the articles and stuff about this movie, but I was reading the description for the Alamo Drafthouse (the theater that showed the first screening of Cheremillbee) showing of No Country and found this:

"We'll also be the only theater in the country featuring a new 35mm trailer for Paul Thomas Anderson's THERE WILL BE BLOOD. Unlike the other trailer, this one was cut by the director himself and is only available at Alamo Drafthouse at the Ritz. "

Old Men with a little taste of blood... I will be there
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Post by: MacGuffin on November 13, 2007, 07:01:08 PM
From the Writers Guild screening; with David Ansen of Newsweek:

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Radiohead's Greenwood goes sinister for 'There Will Be Blood'
Source: Los Angeles Times

After a screening of "There Will Be Blood" last night at Writer's Guild theater in Beverly Hills, director Paul Thomas Anderson said he "had to learn how to be simple" to make film. The movie tracks the life of an oil magnate played by Daniel Day-Lewis, and takes its inspiration from Upton Sinclair's 1927 novel "Oil!."

Much of the post-film discussion focused on the way Day-Lewis approached the role of an arrogantly scheming and oft-paranoid oil man. And if there's anything simple about the film, it's in Anderson's focus on this one man, as the film has an underlying -- almost horror-like tension -- to it.

That foreboding sense of dread, though, comes in large part from the score by Radiohead guitarist Jonny Greenwood. The soundtrack won't be released until Dec. 18 via the Warner Bros. imprint Nonesuch, preceding the Dec. 26 opening of the film. It should be a fascinating, if difficult, listen, judging by the moments of the music in the movie.

It'll be curious to see if it stands as a singular piece, or if Academy voters find it too experimental, too hauntingly sparse, for the original score nomination it deserves.

Like Anderson's film, Greenwood's music often feels deceptively simple, playing out like a twisted, mutated take on orchestral music of the turn of the century.

At times, strings are manipulated into something that sounds like an air-raid siren, and in the few moments there's percussion, it's startling. The rhythms resemble the clangs of the oil machinery in the film, a carefully orchestrated but scattered-sounding noise -- the sound of a mind going mad, perhaps.

Greenwood and Anderson earlier discussed the music and how it relates to certain scenes of the film with Entertainment Weekly, where Greenwood said "The Shining" was a conversation point between the two. Indeed, the opening scenes of "There Will Be Blood," with its wide-open shots of Texas land and guttural orchestra sounds, certainly recall the 1980 Stanley Kubrick thriller.

Greenwood told EW:

I think it was about not necessarily just making period music, which very traditionally you would do. But because they were traditional orchestral sounds, I suppose that's what we hoped was a little unsettling, even though you know all the sounds you're hearing are coming from very old technology. You can just do things with the classical orchestra that do unsettle you, that are sort of slightly wrong, that have some kind of undercurrent that's slightly sinister.

Greenwood's words above best describe the music.

Last night, Anderson also cited John Huston's 1948 film "The Treasure of Sierra Madre" as inspiration, and said he sent pieces of Max Steiner's score to Greenwood. While the music of the latter took a more majestic approach, Greenwood is able to grace "There Will Be Blood" with a similarly epic sonic scope.

"I knew our score would sound nothing like that," Anderson said, "but this is what I was trying to get into the mix."

More on the film, and the soundtrack, as their respective release dates approach.
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Post by: theyarelegion on November 13, 2007, 07:24:32 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on November 13, 2007, 10:38:10 AM
Quote from: Omero on November 13, 2007, 05:30:50 AMFuck. I'm depressd. Pissed. Rang to RSVP when I got the number first and the voicemail inbox was full. Called back again and was told by a recorded message that it's booked out but all people that RSVP'd can be guaranteed a seat. Fuck! Anyone who RSVP'd for them and a guest and got nobody to bring, please PM me! :yabbse-grin: I'll buy you dinner, hah. Seriously.  :yabbse-smiley:

Today's your lucky day. You've just become my date. I added a guest just in case a reason like this came up. You're taking me to Spago's.

THANK YOU! So much. You're a hero. Spago's it is! Check you PM. ;)
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Post by: idk on November 13, 2007, 07:31:02 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate on November 13, 2007, 05:37:35 PM
"We'll also be the only theater in the country featuring a new 35mm trailer for Paul Thomas Anderson's THERE WILL BE BLOOD. Unlike the other trailer, this one was cut by the director himself and is only available at Alamo Drafthouse at the Ritz. "

Old Men with a little taste of blood... I will be there

I guessing the "other trailer" they are referring to is the one that was shown before "3:10 to Yuma" and "Brave One", should we really believe that pta didn't create that one? I mean is it normal for people other than the director to make the trailers?
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Post by: Pubrick on November 13, 2007, 07:54:29 PM
Quote from: idk on November 13, 2007, 07:31:02 PM
I mean is it normal for people other than the director to make the trailers?

i would say so. it's the job of the marketing department. that's why all indie films look the same, and why all movies are misrepresented in their trailer. it's a rare exception that a director would cut their own promo. i havn't done an in-depth study, but i would imagine the difference is similar to that between a teaser and a full length trailer. one gives you a sense of what the movie is about, and the other tells you everything that happens.
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Post by: tpfkabi on November 13, 2007, 09:51:27 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on November 13, 2007, 07:54:29 PM
Quote from: idk on November 13, 2007, 07:31:02 PM
I mean is it normal for people other than the director to make the trailers?

i would say so. it's the job of the marketing department. that's why all indie films look the same, and why all movies are misrepresented in their trailer. it's a rare exception that a director would cut their own promo. i havn't done an in-depth study, but i would imagine the difference is similar to that between a teaser and a full length trailer. one gives you a sense of what the movie is about, and the other tells you everything that happens.

i was having a discussion about this - once i see a joke in a trailer i can never laugh at it within the actual movie.
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Post by: MacGuffin on November 14, 2007, 12:47:19 AM
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Source: Jeffery Wells; Hollywood-Elsewhere

**SPOILER ALERT**

Here are three Daniel Day Lewis clips from last night's WGA discussion following a screening of There Will Be Blood. Newsweek's David Ansen moderated; costar Paul Dano and director-writer Paul Thomas Anderson also participated.

I love the gentle British inflections in Lewis's natural speaking voice. When was the last time he used them in a film? Not recently. And not The Age of Innocence, not The Crucible, not In The Name of the Father. Was it A Room With a View? The Boxer?

I was struck by how tall and gangly Lewis is when he first walked into the WGA theatre lobby while the film was still running. I've never sensed his being this Abraham Lincoln-ish -- rain-thin and about 6' 3" -- from his appearances on film. There's also the matter of his big head. Almost all big stars have them. I thought of this as Lewis sat next to Ansen during the q & a. Lewis's face is a good 35% to 40% larger than Ansen's, and that's a conservative estimate.

In clip #1, Lewis explains the attitude of his Blood character, Daniel Plainview, toward Paul Dano's Eli, an evangelical huckster, to a woman in the audience.

In clip #2, he's explaining to another female questioner how Plainview comes to suspect that Kevin J. O'Connor's Henry character may not be his actual brother, as has been claimed. It's not a very smart question, but Lewis has fun with her and shows good humor. (At one point he says, "I'm so confused!") As I said to Ansen later, sometimes the dumber questions get the better answers.

And in clip #3 -- the best -- Lewis responds to one of the question that young actors refuse to stop asking in situations like this, which is "what advice would you have for an actor just starting out today?" And yet Lewis's response, which doesn't offer advice, is quite good. Gets a round of applause.

http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/images/column/111507/lewisonplainview.mp3

http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/images/column/111507/lewisonbrother.mp3

http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/images/column/111507/lewisonadvice.mp3
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Post by: MacGuffin on November 14, 2007, 10:03:49 AM
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Source: Jeffery Wells; Hollywood-Elsewhere

**SPOILER ALERT**



I sat down earlier this evening with There Will be Blood costar Paul Dano. We know the same people and have talked at a couple of parties, but this was the first interview. Dano plays a dual role -- twins, actually -- in There Will Be Blood. "Paul" is a bright, mature, realistic fellow; "Eli" is an opportunistic evangelical creep. Dano delivers on the intensity and then some. He and Daniel Day Lewis have a helluva final scene together.

Here are two mp3 files of our talk. The first is longer than the second.

For my money Dano had a slyer, deeper, more interesting thing going on in Little Miss Sunshine than did his Oscar-winning costar Alan Arkin. Dano and Steve Carell obviously share the film's richest and most intimate scene.

Our common denominator is having both lived in Wilton, Connecticut, for a few years. Dano, 23, graduated from Wilton High School in '02. He's currently living in Manhattan's East Village and starring onstage in Jonathan Marc Sherman's Things We Want, directed by Ethan Hawke and costarring Peter Dinklage, Josh Hamilton and Zoe Kazan.


http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/images/column/111507/dano.mp3

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/images/column/111507/dano2.mp3
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Post by: modage on November 14, 2007, 11:59:26 AM
i'm pretty sure by swiping a bit of that white i just read the biggest spoiler of all time.  why did i do that?
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Post by: MacGuffin on November 14, 2007, 12:44:00 PM
Quote from: modage on November 14, 2007, 11:59:26 AM
i'm pretty sure by swiping a bit of that white i just read the biggest spoiler of all time.  why did i do that?

How do you think I felt when I read it without knowing? I didn't even have the option to swipe or not.
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Post by: modage on November 14, 2007, 01:15:01 PM
Jeffrey Wells is a dick.  all be warned.
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Post by: ©brad on November 14, 2007, 01:45:46 PM
paul dano seems like a cool dude.
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Post by: Fernando on November 14, 2007, 02:20:22 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on November 14, 2007, 12:44:00 PM
Quote from: modage on November 14, 2007, 11:59:26 AM
i'm pretty sure by swiping a bit of that white i just read the biggest spoiler of all time.  why did i do that?

How do you think I felt when I read it without knowing? I didn't even have the option to swipe or not.

Oh man, why do both of you keep reading this things? Specially you Mac, you're one day away from seeing it, nobody will think less of you if you don't post articles for a couple of days, besides, P reads everything and keeps taking one for the team.
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Post by: hedwig on November 14, 2007, 02:54:58 PM
Quote from: Fernando on November 14, 2007, 02:20:22 PM
Specially you Mac, you're one day away from seeing it, nobody will think less of you if you don't post articles for a couple of days

speak for yourself. :elitist:
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Post by: pete on November 14, 2007, 03:27:27 PM
that was a big spoiler for The Prestige, but for this film, it doesn't really matter.
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Post by: JG on November 14, 2007, 03:48:31 PM
yesterday i saw (or thought i saw) that sal posted a review in this thread. soi read it, only to realize that i was in the wrong thread.  i don't know if what i read is a total spoiler or not, but its definitely not something i had been reading in these spoiler-ful articles.  anybody who has already seen it wanna help me out? 
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Post by: Pozer on November 14, 2007, 06:43:06 PM
youre all good.
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Post by: MacGuffin on November 14, 2007, 07:40:48 PM
pozer, Omero, Silias and I are gonna try to do a xixax meeting. Who else is going tomorrow? PM me if you wanna get in on it and pass the jenkem balloon around.
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Post by: Slick Shoes on November 14, 2007, 11:31:21 PM
a bit of a Hail Mary, but does anybody else that is going tomorrow have a +1 they are not using? PLEASE??



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Post by: idk on November 14, 2007, 11:38:48 PM
this is neat (http://cgi.ebay.com/THERE-WILL-BE-BLOOD-OscarAd-DANIEL-DAY-LEWIS-ANDERSON_W0QQitemZ170168529054QQihZ007QQcategoryZ18820QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting), the guy calls it an "Oscar ad" although I'm not quite sure what that is.
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Post by: Tictacbk on November 14, 2007, 11:52:19 PM
How early are people going tomorrow?  I'm debating how early would be too early...

CMBB eve!
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Post by: Satcho9 on November 14, 2007, 11:59:04 PM
I'll be there tomorrow. Probably too early.
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Post by: theyarelegion on November 15, 2007, 12:05:37 AM
I'm gonna head down there 'round 4?

I'm probably going to sound stupid, but what is CMBB? Something, something, "...be blood," I'm guessing?
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Post by: MacGuffin on November 15, 2007, 01:19:28 AM
I'll probably be there around 1'ish. I'll be the film geek toting a poster tube hoping to get my Boogie and Magnolia posters signed.
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Post by: Pozer on November 15, 2007, 01:31:30 AM
:shock: just caught a LONG NEW amazing trailer on television.  it was during the eye witness news.  best part is, my pals who are not into such a thing as much as i am, all thought it looked really good. 

i am now trying to convince the jobless one to go and hold me a spot in line tomorrow, as i will not be able to get there early enough for my liking.   
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Post by: picolas on November 15, 2007, 02:42:24 AM
Quote from: pozer on November 15, 2007, 01:31:30 AM
:shock: just caught a LONG NEW amazing trailer on television
http://www.iklipz.com/MovieDetail.aspx?MovieID=f3483c20-70c3-489a-ab84-0e80d45cc0d4

holy shit. that's what i thought domestic meant. loving the score.

tv spot spoils
plainview swims just like pta.
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Post by: Pubrick on November 15, 2007, 03:41:44 AM
Quote from: Omero on November 15, 2007, 12:05:37 AM
I'm probably going to sound stupid, but what is CMBB? Something, something, "...be blood," I'm guessing?

well you're just gonna have to read the whole thread to find out won't you?  :yabbse-thumbup:
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Post by: picolas on November 15, 2007, 03:50:32 AM
do it and you might be rookie of the year.
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Post by: theyarelegion on November 15, 2007, 04:35:55 AM
Fuck it, I'll do it.
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Post by: Pubrick on November 15, 2007, 05:43:00 AM
godspeed you, little dude.  :salute:

watch out for vince froio, the kitlers, and so much more!

goddamn this thread is a classic.
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Post by: theyarelegion on November 15, 2007, 06:11:11 AM
Chere Mill Be Blood.

That was a helluva read, kitlers and all.

I feel like part of the Xixax clan now. :yabbse-grin:

No? Still a rookie? Oh, well.
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Post by: Pubrick on November 15, 2007, 07:36:17 AM
you did good.

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Now go to sleep, we have a big day ahead of us tomorrow.

A big, long.. day.

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Post by: MacGuffin on November 15, 2007, 09:52:41 AM
Anyone want a specific question asked of PTA at the Q&A?
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Post by: Fernando on November 15, 2007, 10:05:41 AM
 :ponder: just don't ask anything related of how parenthood has changed him as an artist/person, what changes you when having kids is your lifestyle if you're an ok parent, so that is altered forever regardless of what you are in life (artist, CEO, janitor). Instead, ask him to say chere mill be blood and tape it for our own pleasure.

Or ask the usual about his next project, he said some time ago he was writing something.
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Post by: children with angels on November 15, 2007, 10:55:55 AM
This isn't necessarily a great question, but I often wonder if he still feels the same way about Magnolia: that "for better or worse, it's the best film I'll ever make". He'd probably just give an "I love all my kids the same" answer though.
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Post by: Pozer on November 15, 2007, 11:03:18 AM
Quote from: Lucid on November 15, 2007, 03:21:22 AM
Quote from: picolas on November 15, 2007, 02:42:24 AM
tv spot spoils
plainview swims just like pta.

Ha - my thoughts exactly when I first saw the movie!

me three!  that's so funny.  wonder if he used that pic from cannes as a ref. on the set.
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Post by: modage on November 15, 2007, 11:23:08 AM
ask him when he's bringing Blood to New York.
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Post by: cowboykurtis on November 15, 2007, 11:58:25 AM
Quote from: children with angels on November 15, 2007, 10:55:55 AM
This isn't necessarily a great question, but I often wonder if he still feels the same way about Magnolia: that "for better or worse, it's the best film I'll ever make". He'd probably just give an "I love all my kids the same" answer though.

he was asked this question in the MEAN MAGAZINE interview - Paul answer was, '(long pause) no comment.'
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Post by: modage on November 15, 2007, 01:09:39 PM
can you scan in the interview pleeeeease cowboykurtis?
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Post by: ElPandaRoyal on November 15, 2007, 01:57:16 PM
Quote from: modage on November 15, 2007, 01:09:39 PM
can you scan in the interview pleeeeease cowboykurtis?

That would be sawiiiiiit!
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Post by: theyarelegion on November 15, 2007, 02:04:15 PM
One of the directions from my place to the theatre:

6:   Turn RIGHT onto MAGNOLIA BLVD.
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Post by: SiliasRuby on November 15, 2007, 02:11:33 PM
I'm leaving my los feliz/griifith park apartment now. I'll be the one who's pretty scrawny and geeky....not that that narrows it down much...ok...here we go I'll be in a beowulf baseball hat, kacki pants and black team physical therapy T-shirt. Look for me peeps and all that jazz.
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Post by: Sal on November 15, 2007, 02:13:49 PM
Look forward to seeing some of you in the HW thread  :yabbse-grin:
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Post by: picolas on November 15, 2007, 02:40:31 PM
Mac, i'd love to know if the music in the theatrical trailer (aside from convergence) is original score or not. you'll know by the time the q & a starts... if it's from something else (the beginning bits and the post oil! bits) i'd like to know what it is. but only ask him if you have a few free questions.
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Post by: matt35mm on November 15, 2007, 06:13:01 PM
Quote from: children with angels on November 15, 2007, 10:55:55 AM
This isn't necessarily a great question, but I often wonder if he still feels the same way about Magnolia: that "for better or worse, it's the best film I'll ever make". He'd probably just give an "I love all my kids the same" answer though.

I remember he was asked this at the Berkeley Q&A, and I think at first he said, "I said that?" then later, "It was probably just a bit of showmanship on my part."
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Post by: cowboykurtis on November 15, 2007, 06:26:21 PM
Quote from: modage on November 15, 2007, 01:09:39 PM
can you scan in the interview pleeeeease cowboykurtis?

read it at a news stand

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Post by: Pubrick on November 15, 2007, 08:32:34 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on November 15, 2007, 09:52:41 AM
Anyone want a specific question asked of PTA at the Q&A?
Quote from: modage on November 15, 2007, 11:23:08 AM
ask him when he's bringing Blood to New York.

ask if it's cos of the bedbugs (that NY is getting snubbed).

if i was drunk or hepped up on goofballs i would ask if his daughter's name is a reference to Night of the Hunter. and then i'd go "THAT MOVIE RULES!" as i'm escorted out. he should at least laugh, if he knows what's good for him. pozer can you ask him that?

if not, that's ok, i'll just ask at cowboykurtis' news stand..
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Post by: JG on November 15, 2007, 09:03:07 PM
i was at the WGA screening for diving bell and the butterfly and harwood was talking about the WGA and SAG screenings he attended in LA a couple weeks prior.  soooo... maybe thats just how they do things when they're trying to publicize these end of the year movies, west coast first, then east coast.. so if they already had the WGA west coast screening of blood, thennnnnn right after thanksgiving pta will come to new york city and we can sneak into those screenings or maybe he'll have public screenings and the east coasters can finally see this movie.   

i've had dreams about this movie, all i do is think about this movie and talk about this movie.  i listened to the boogie nights commentary last nite.. why? I DON'T KNOW I JUST WANT TO SEE THIS MOVIE. 
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on November 15, 2007, 09:13:45 PM
Quote from: matt35mm on November 15, 2007, 06:13:01 PM
Quote from: children with angels on November 15, 2007, 10:55:55 AM
This isn't necessarily a great question, but I often wonder if he still feels the same way about Magnolia: that "for better or worse, it's the best film I'll ever make". He'd probably just give an "I love all my kids the same" answer though.

I remember he was asked this at the Berkeley Q&A, and I think at first he said, "I said that?" then later, "It was probably just a bit of showmanship on my part."

That's good. It would be dissapointing if he thought Magnolia was the best he'll ever do. I know people here take him at his word and show it by nominating Magnolia to a ridiculous status, but it's by no means his best film, not even close.
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Post by: Pubrick on November 15, 2007, 10:17:47 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on November 15, 2007, 09:13:45 PM
That's good. It would be dissapointing if he thought Magnolia was the best he'll ever do. I know people here take him at his word and show it by nominating Magnolia to a ridiculous status, but it's by no means his best film, not even close.

i don't think that's why ppl love magnolia. his statement was an emotional one at the time. what he probably meant to say was most personal, uncompromising, and indulgent. "for better or worse", for the person who he was at the time, that was the best movie he could imagine ever making -- a grand statement, no doubt, like the movie itself. likewise, i love the film unconditionally for the purpose it served me. it was indispensible, unlike any other movie had been.

that makes me think how could a 16 year old be on the same "level" as a 30yr old genius? was the movie that immature? the difference is in ability. i was thinking it and he was making it happen. he showed me that what was driving me crazy, these inexpressible ideas, could actually happen. and did.

maybe you never thought much of the movie to begin with. granted, it had little if anything to do with kevin costner. i still think it's absolutely amazing. and NOT in the meaningless "duhhhh the music and the direction was good" whatever the fuck that means kind of way. i mean the IDEAS, man. those ideas that i still can't bring myself to verbalize. the movie itself is the statement. i still quote Jim Kurring's final (audible) monologue about forgiveness. that was the real last word, HIS last word, along with the good news he went on to deliver, it was his live commentary right there on the screen.

so it doesn't surprise me that he doesn't do commentaries anymore, and wants to make a movie without dialogue. it makes perfect sense that CMBB would start in a long silence. with PDL he attempted the first portrait of what i imagine will be many Great Men of Few Words. Barry Egan's strong point was not his eloquence. DDL said in the NYT article that no one read, that he is fascinated by the great men of america who say but few words.. he contrasts it against british verbosity. that was a very revealing comment he made about the nature of his character and of the film. ultimately the function of dialogue is to release energy rather than build or contain it.

for better or worse, this is the best post i'll ever write.
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Post by: tpfkabi on November 15, 2007, 10:45:17 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on November 15, 2007, 09:52:41 AM
Anyone want a specific question asked of PTA at the Q&A?

I still say ask about some video/short/WSYB compilation. He's talked recently about this Elliott Smith short, so maybe the idea is already on his mind.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on November 15, 2007, 11:35:54 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on November 15, 2007, 10:17:47 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on November 15, 2007, 09:13:45 PM
That's good. It would be disappointing if he thought Magnolia was the best he'll ever do. I know people here take him at his word and show it by nominating Magnolia to a ridiculous status, but it's by no means his best film, not even close.

i don't think that's why ppl love magnolia. his statement was an emotional one at the time. what he probably meant to say was most personal, uncompromising, and indulgent. "for better or worse", for the person who he was at the time, that was the best movie he could imagine ever making in his life -- a grand statement, no doubt, like the movie itself. likewise, i love the film unconditionally for the purpose it served me. it was indispensible, unlike any other movie had been.

that makes me think how could a 16 year old be on the same "level" as a 30yr old genius? was the movie that immature? the difference is in ability. i was thinking it and he was making it happen. he showed me that what was driving me crazy, these inexpressible ideas, could actually happen. and did.

maybe you never thought much of the movie to begin with. granted, it had little if anything to do with kevin costner. i still think it's absolutely amazing. and NOT in the meaningless "duhhhh the music and the direction was good" whatever the fuck that means kind of way. i mean the IDEAS, man. those ideas that i still can't bring myself to verbalize. the movie itself is the statement. i still quote Jim Kurring's final (audible) monologue about forgiveness. that was the real last word, HIS last word, along with the good news he went on to deliver, that was his live commentary right there on the screen.

so it doesn't surprise me that he doesn't do commentaries anymore, and wants to make a movie without dialogue. it makes perfect sense that CMBB would start in a long silence. with PDL he attempted the first of what i imagine many Great Men of Few Words. Barry Egan's strong point was not his eloquence. DDL said in the NYT article that no one read, that he is fascinated by the great men of america who say but few words.. he contrasts it against british verbosity. that was a very revealing comment he made about the nature of his character and of the film. ultimately the function of dialogue is to release energy rather than build or contain it.

for better or worse, this is the best post i'll ever write.

You're right. Paul Thomas Anderson saying Magnolia was his best work didn't make everyone fall in line to just agree, but I think the elements that came together to get most of the original board to like it since it was the first major film we all talked about and everyone seemed to discover film as a whole through it. I think the fact PTA was so passionate about it at the time certainly helped since our appetite for him and the film was limitless.

Looking back, my post was insensitive. I bottled up angst against the hype of Magnolia and let it spill over in a barely explained comment and slam. Our feelings about Magnolia are different and while I might assume others like the film for the most general reasons, I definitely don't think you do. A few members can tell me something and I'll believe them. Coincidentally, Magnolia is the subject of my next essay. It'll debut on Green Screen in the next week. No worries, I went out of my way to give it a fair shake.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: maya kash on November 16, 2007, 12:44:20 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on November 15, 2007, 11:35:54 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on November 15, 2007, 10:17:47 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on November 15, 2007, 09:13:45 PM
That's good. It would be disappointing if he thought Magnolia was the best he'll ever do. I know people here take him at his word and show it by nominating Magnolia to a ridiculous status, but it's by no means his best film, not even close.

i don't think that's why ppl love magnolia. his statement was an emotional one at the time. what he probably meant to say was most personal, uncompromising, and indulgent. "for better or worse", for the person who he was at the time, that was the best movie he could imagine ever making in his life -- a grand statement, no doubt, like the movie itself. likewise, i love the film unconditionally for the purpose it served me. it was indispensible, unlike any other movie had been.

that makes me think how could a 16 year old be on the same "level" as a 30yr old genius? was the movie that immature? the difference is in ability. i was thinking it and he was making it happen. he showed me that what was driving me crazy, these inexpressible ideas, could actually happen. and did.

maybe you never thought much of the movie to begin with. granted, it had little if anything to do with kevin costner. i still think it's absolutely amazing. and NOT in the meaningless "duhhhh the music and the direction was good" whatever the fuck that means kind of way. i mean the IDEAS, man. those ideas that i still can't bring myself to verbalize. the movie itself is the statement. i still quote Jim Kurring's final (audible) monologue about forgiveness. that was the real last word, HIS last word, along with the good news he went on to deliver, that was his live commentary right there on the screen.

so it doesn't surprise me that he doesn't do commentaries anymore, and wants to make a movie without dialogue. it makes perfect sense that CMBB would start in a long silence. with PDL he attempted the first of what i imagine many Great Men of Few Words. Barry Egan's strong point was not his eloquence. DDL said in the NYT article that no one read, that he is fascinated by the great men of america who say but few words.. he contrasts it against british verbosity. that was a very revealing comment he made about the nature of his character and of the film. ultimately the function of dialogue is to release energy rather than build or contain it.

for better or worse, this is the best post i'll ever write.

You're right.

Looking back, my post was insensitive.

what can we forgive?

btw...The screening tonight was sorta mediocre.  I know, I'll get slammed for this but I left half way through to meet a friend for Jack in the Box and a bubble bath.  Just got home and had a message saying I was the luckiest bitch in the world for scoring free tix.  I'm actually feeling like the tub was a better call y'all.

I'll try it out again in December I guess
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Post by: Pubrick on November 16, 2007, 12:52:02 AM
Quote from: maya kash on November 16, 2007, 12:44:20 AM
what can we forgive?

8 years later, we finally know where to draw the line..

Quote from: maya kash on November 16, 2007, 12:44:20 AM
I left half way through to meet a friend for Jack in the Box and a bubble bath.
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Post by: maya kash on November 16, 2007, 01:06:19 AM
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Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Gold Trumpet on November 16, 2007, 01:49:25 AM
I'm nice to Pubrick these days. I wasn't admitting a capital crime by saying my last post was unpleasant, just being kind and considerate. You should have seen how well we use to get along.
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Post by: Satcho9 on November 16, 2007, 02:01:38 AM
Just Got back from the LA screening... DDL did not seem to be amused by Judd Apatow.
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Post by: theyarelegion on November 16, 2007, 03:09:25 AM
Quote from: Satcho9 on November 16, 2007, 02:01:38 AM
DDL did not seem to be amused by Judd Apatow.

I concur. How fucking amazing was it tonight? I'm blown away.

Had such a great time hanging out with Mac and Silias.

Quote from: Lucid on November 16, 2007, 02:23:00 AM
This necessitates further explanation.

Apatow to DDL: Which did you prefer: "Knocked Up" or "Superbad"?

DDL's reply: silence.

I believe that was his first question.
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Post by: Pubrick on November 16, 2007, 03:19:11 AM
yeah..  so far, SF crowd > LA crowd.

mac will be your only saving grace.
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Post by: MacGuffin on November 16, 2007, 04:41:39 AM
That was one Goddamn, Helluva show.



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Silias, Omero and I seriously considered stealing the film and cutting it up into strips and mailing you all portions like The Kubrick Archives, but we realized that we wouldn't get to see the film then.


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Sorry for the blur. Had to sneak the photo since they said no photos and had personnel around.

Philip Baker Hall and Maya were in the audience, along with the dude who was replaced by Paul Dano. He was sitting in front of me and pointed to himself amongst his friends when PTA mentioned the recasting in the Q&A.

Sorry, mod, didn't get a chance to ask about the East Coast, or what his next project might be.


Ladies and Gentlemen, I have met GOD and shook his hand (DDL's John Hancock is on top):

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PTA was trying to get to his mom and sister, so pulling out my posters wouldn't have been feasible. This ticket was the next best thing.


It was the perfect setting to see the film. The entire audience was completely respectful. No cell phones went off, no one checked their cells and cast a flashlight effect; no talking. Everyone was in awe.

The film was worth the years of waiting to see PTA doing everything he does best, and nothing he has done before.

Right from the opening frames, the film sucks you in and commands you. I honestly got goosebumps; and not just once. Then there was the score. My God, the score was its own entity. It seems so out of place, yet so just and perfect. The silence in the opening that is talked about so much lives up to the hype. It was a brilliant progression of storytelling done with images that truly shows PTA's presence as a filmmaker. He must, at the very least, get a Best Director Oscar nod. The scene that follows with Daniel and son on a train with voiceover playing is just one of many images that are just mezmerizing. Then you hear Plainview's voice. And his character becomes fully rounded because that voice, not just in tone, is a large part of why this man is so wretched, yet increasingly fascinating. Day-Lewis deserves every accolade that comes his way. There will be no other performance topped by this one this year or even in years to come. Dano also deserves some mention in his going toe-to-toe with DDL. The trailers are nothing compared to the epic scope the film will give you, not just in terms of the cinematography, but also in the story. It becomes a incredibly intense character study. Moments of jaw-dropping brillance, that I really don't want to mention to you here because I will not do justice and you have to experience for yourself, are spread throughout. It all adds up to a film so beautiful with every aspect firing on all cylinders.

The memories of meeting PTA and DDL preceeded by a wonderful screening of a gorgeous film. It was a night I won't soon, if ever, forget.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on November 16, 2007, 06:33:46 AM
Quote from: Omero on November 16, 2007, 03:09:25 AM
Quote from: Satcho9 on November 16, 2007, 02:01:38 AM
DDL did not seem to be amused by Judd Apatow.

I concur. How fucking amazing was it tonight? I'm blown away.

Had such a great time hanging out with Mac and Silias.

Quote from: Lucid on November 16, 2007, 02:23:00 AM
This necessitates further explanation.

Apatow to DDL: Which did you prefer: "Knocked Up" or "Superbad"?

DDL's reply: silence.

I believe that was his first question.

First: Is this true? If so, that's fucking hilarious. I'm here trying to imagine Lewis's reaction to the question (like, "what the fuck is he talking about? Who is this guy? WHO IS THIS GUY??? Ladies and gentlemen, if I say he's an asshole, you'll agree").

Then: Mac's post gave ME the goosebumps. I want CMBB right fucking now.
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Post by: ©brad on November 16, 2007, 08:47:54 AM
wait can one of you explain play-by-play the judd apatow thing? why would he ever ask anyone, let alone daniel day freakin lewis, which of his two movies he liked better? please tell me there's something we're missing here and he's not that much of a douche. 

Quote from: ElPandaRoyal on November 16, 2007, 06:33:46 AMThen: Mac's post gave ME the goosebumps. I want CMBB right fucking now.

me too. nice job buddy. although i have to say I predict the new york screening will blow la and sf out of the water. that is, if the movie ever comes here...



Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Satcho9 on November 16, 2007, 09:10:18 AM
The "Knocked Up or Superbad" question came first as a sort of ice breaker. Then Apatow led the questioning for quite a while, asking the standard stuff about "his process" that we have all heard before...but peppering jokes in here and there that was met with silence from DDL and pity laughs from PTA.

At one point, I don't recall the question, but Apatow posed a question to DDL who then chose to just sit and stare into the audience. PTA just looked at Apatow and shook his head as to say "drop it".

I thought it was a good line by Apatow when someone asked about how Paul Dano was a replacement for so and so...PTA was gracious, but it was an awkward subject to broach...so Apatow cuts in with the Back to the Future reference..."Hey, they did it on Back to the Future...Eric Stoltz wasn't working out so they went with Michael J. Fox....They had to do the same thing on this movie...the only bummer was they were replacing Eric Stoltz."

Another good moment, When Apatow asked PTA and DDL if he was doing better than David Ansen of Newsweek...whom he has beef with over his review of CABLE GUY for saying "..it didn't get one laugh.." saying he wanted to kick Ansen's ass.

Overall, Apatow did an okay job. Should've opened it up to Q&A sooner though.

Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on November 16, 2007, 10:47:12 AM
You forgot when Apatow asked PTA about how does a director get an actor of DDL's rank to work for him, then cracked a joke about having a script called My Left Nut.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on November 16, 2007, 11:54:13 AM
What was Apatow even doing there? Talk about a wrong side of the tracks meet-up. I haven't seen one that strange since Weird Al had Morrisey as his best man at his wedding. WTF?
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Post by: Fernando on November 16, 2007, 12:17:35 PM
lol ^^^^

Quote from: MacGuffin on November 16, 2007, 10:47:12 AM
You forgot when Apatow asked PTA about how does a director get an actor of DDL's rank to work for him, then cracked a joke about having a script called My Left Nut.

hahaha, but really, how can you ask that? Besides everybody knows the answer of how to do that: the same way he got Cruise, the same way he got final cut on his last 4 films, the same way he got to meet Kubrick...you need to be Paul Thomas Anderson.

Quote from: Pubrick on November 16, 2007, 03:19:11 AM
mac will be your only saving grace.

And he was, great post Mac  :yabbse-thumbup: :yabbse-thumbup: :yabbse-thumbup:.

Is it possible CMBB will sit right next EWS? We'll see.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pozer on November 16, 2007, 02:36:52 PM
firstly, to mac & friends - SO sorry i was not appart of the meet up.  i was in such a rush to get there, ended up going with a group of peeps and a pair of them were LAGGING, sat through horrid traffic - it was RIDICULUOUS and i was in a HORRID mood upon arrival.  we were some of the last to get in - did you notice us standing near maya WHO DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A SEAT?  we had to sit away from each other - was frustrated about all this.... 

anywayz, enough about pozer who had a great time in the end.  i thought judd was really funny and thought that was just daniel's style.  he was smiling most of the time - just keeping quiet on the responses to screwball questions or remarks is his thing.  full affect of the first question - "I know you don't really do interviews or really like these things, so my first question has got to be... do you prefer Knocked Up or Superbad?"  Silence from DDL (but smiling).  "I'll send ya the DVDs."  with answers, daniel & paul both seemed like they could go on an on about certain things and i would just listen and listen.  what was it daniel said exactly - something like,  "paul is trying to explain if i was playing the role of his girlfriend or the other around...?

great encounters:  paul introducing philip baker hall to daniel, judd introducing big superbad guy to paul and me introducing myself to daniel.  we all went for sushi afterwards.  sans me.  and prolly superbad guy.

seriously tho, daniel is genuine in person.  his grin is HUGE and i didn't want to trouble him for an autograph cuz it was enough to just meet him.  and after watching him and hearing the way he transforms himself and his voice in a movie, his appearance and thick british accent just cannot be so.  like when he replied with that grin, "thank you very much.  Nice to see you."

i then moved on to PTA with goose bumps from the d-man.  he noticed us and came over to say hello.  I told him "thanks for a great movie."  he's a very generous guy and said "thank YOU."   so i felt like troubling him - whipped out my ticket and asked for his autograph.  i had a pen i borrowed from one of my friends and he tried to sign it, but it would not work.  he moved to the ground to attempt to sign and the pen would JUST NOT WORK.  "oh sorry, man.  The pen isn't working."  Reaches into his pocket in attempt to find one of his own, but there wasn't one there and IIII AM FEELING LIKE AN ASS.  i go, "don't sweat it man, it's just cool to meet you."  You can tell that means a lot to him.  some chick gave him a pen and now I have a ticket with his scribbled attempts and autograph. 

overall, fantastic night, I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE that movie (as did the other four i was with, only one being a pta fan) and got to meet two individuals who I have much admiration for. 

oh yeah, p, didnt ask about the daughter name thing but did ask this:

Quote from: Pubrick on November 15, 2007, 08:32:34 PM
ask if it's cos of the bedbugs (that NY is getting snubbed).

his reply:  FUCK YOU N.Y.!

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Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on November 16, 2007, 03:44:31 PM
Quote from: pozer on November 16, 2007, 02:36:52 PMseriously tho, daniel is genuine in person.  his grin is HUGE and i didn't want to trouble him for an autograph cuz it was enough to just meet him.  and after watching him and hearing the way he transforms himself and his voice in a movie, his appearance and thick british accent just cannot be so.  like when he replied with that grin, "thank you very much.  Nice to see you."

DDL looked very pleased to be asked for an autograph. When he was done signing, I held out my hand, said "Thank you," and he looked shocked, in a good way, that I was so grateful. He gave me a very strong, hearty handshake, and told me "Thank you very much" with a sort of a bow to it. 'Genuine' is the perfect word to describe him.

Quote from: pozer on November 16, 2007, 02:36:52 PMi then moved on to PTA with goose bumps from the d-man.  he noticed us and came over to say hello.  I told him "thanks for a great movie."  he's a very generous guy and said "thank YOU."   so i felt like troubling him - whipped out my ticket and asked for his autograph.  i had a pen i borrowed from one of my friends and he tried to sign it, but it would not work.  he moved to the ground to attempt to sign and the pen would JUST NOT WORK.  "oh sorry, man.  The pen isn't working."  Reaches into his pocket in attempt to find one of his own, but there wasn't one there and IIII AM FEELING LIKE AN ASS.  i go, "don't sweat it man, it's just cool to meet you."  You can tell that means a lot to him.  some chick gave him a pen and now I have a ticket with his scribbled attempts and autograph. 

We were right behind each other because I saw PTA struggling with that pen, and wanted to push through hand him my Sharpie so I could be next.
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Post by: Pozer on November 16, 2007, 04:51:32 PM
haha!  oh man, that sucks!  you mean you were the one who approached right after i was done and said something about the movie being great as well?!  thought you would be somewhere around there.  i had to hurry up cuz everyone i was with was set to leave.  Mac & i were right next to each other and i blew it!  itd been so funny if i called you, and your phone started ringing right there. 
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Post by: MacGuffin on November 17, 2007, 11:31:07 AM
Some more tidbits from the Q&A:

Apatow asked why it took so long to get the project filmed, was it money? PTA answered that no one wanted to make it. Apatow told him to name names. PTA kind of hesitated, laughed then said Universal didn't want to make it. Apatow said, "Fuck 'em. Fuck Universal."

Apatow asked if DDL would be willing to wait how ever long it took, to which he said that even if the project was dropped, the whole process of discussing the character and fleshing it out with PTA was worth it.

Apatow mentioned that John C. Reilly did reseach on the porn industry before filming Boogie Nights by watching porn. Apatow then said that's something he still practices because he did the same thing for Walk Hard.

Someone asked about the score. PTA answered that it was done by Jonny Greenwood. All the Radiohead fans in the audience clapped. PTA then said something like, "There you go."

Since there were Writers Guild members there, PTA was asked about his writing process. He said that being a disciplined writer is key. That he doesn't start writing knowing where he's going to take a scene/story. He likes letting the ideas come to him. DDL added that the great thing about PTA's script is that he doesn't add those emotion descriptions. How do I know the character will be angry at that time?

Someone asked how they found the child actor who played H.W. He was a local hire from Texas, his mom is a state trooper. She had no idea who PTA or DDL were; never seeing any of their films. So she decided that she should rent a film to get a look at the man who was going to be with her son the most and play his father. She watched Gangs of New York.

DDL called him a man-child. He was so smart that when DDL explained that some of the mean acts he was gonna do weren't real. The boy gave DDL a strange look, "I know that."

PTA contrasted Texas and Calif. When the filming came to Calif, the boy has to have a teacher with him on set for labor laws, etc. But the teacher was so overbearing, always asking if he was okay, do you want a snack, do you want something to drink, and so on. The mom had enough and told the teacher, "My son's from Texas. If something is wrong, he'll let you know."

PTA talked about filming in Marfa, Texas and how since Giant was also filmed there, he thought that was a good sign and was hoping of that vibe would rub off.
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Post by: MacGuffin on November 17, 2007, 01:11:01 PM
There Will be Blood: On the Screening Circuit
Source: Thompson On Hollywood

**READ AT OWN RISK**


Paramount Vantage is on the There will Be Blood promo trail, screening the pic and building support. I watched the two hour and forty minute film, happily, for the second time at the WGA screening Monday night; the crowd gave Paul Thomas Anderson and Daniel Day Lewis a standing ovation afterward.

Here's what I learned:
As far as the Oscars go--Daniel Day Lewis is a cinch for a nom. And the directors could come through for Anderson's extraordinary mise-en-scene. The writers may see some weakness in the script. The production values are stunning--production design, costumes, etc. There Will Be Blood won't play for the mainstream Academy. But it's a movie, like Citizen Kane or Greed or The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, that will endure. It has that kind of power.

Paramount Vantage should encourage folks to see this movie twice, because it really is better after it has been pre-digested. That said, gorgeous as it is, the movie is hard for people to take. It's not easy to watch. It's rough and violent and provides few good characters to hang onto. And Lewis's towering performance is more humorously operatic than I realized the first time.

Newsweek critic David Ansen, who was the only journalist on the set of the movie, moderated the Q & A and revealed that Paul Dano was originally cast as Paul Sunday, the guy who tips off Daniel Day Lewis's oilcatter to a possible oil strike in California. At the last minute, just as Dano was supposed to start filming, Anderson told him that he wanted him to play a second role, as Paul's twin brother Eli. Dano was surprised, but jumped right in. The problem is, the film is confusing. I was not sure that they were two separate people the first time. This time, I watched carefully; Anderson doesn't spell it out enough; it flies over people's heads. Several people at the screening were also confused.

Comparing the film to Upton Sinclair's novel, Ansen said, "This is original, the resemblance to the book is miniscule, based on the first 150 pages." Anderson agreed that the book was "mammoth" and thus impossible to shoot at its length. He transcribed a lot of the book, but just kept cutting and cutting. Something that was ten pages "became five, became four, became one," he said. Inspired by a plot of land on Signal Hill where oil was discovered, Sinclair "was a great journalist," said Anderson. "He wrote in amazing detail." The movie was contained in good part from being a "typical epic" by its limited scope and budget, Anderson said.

One of my favorite shots in the film, when Day Lewis on horseback rides around the outside of the Bandy house and peers in through the window, was Lewis's suggestion; Anderson just shot it. Lewis, in pork pie hat, said he did a lot of research, like digging into the ground. "It was irresistible," he said. And while he took a long time "to splash around" on finding his voice, listening to turn-of-the-century recordings, John Huston did come to mind at a certain point. Lewis sent Anderson tapes of what he was trying. "The great advantage of a period like that is noone knows, so you can do whatever you like," he said.

Anderson also watched Huston's The Treasure of the Sierra Madre repeatedly, and gave it to Lewis and composer Jonny Greenwood. "For a few nights in a row I fell asleep to it to get into the saltwater of it all," he said.

The score by Jonny Greenwood, which seems strange and intrusive the first time, grows on you the second. One big chunk of the soundtrack is Brahms.

Anderson loved working with all the non-pros around Marfa, Texas, including first-time actor Dylan Freasier, who plays his son H.W.. "He's terrific in the film," said Anderson, "and he's ten times as terrific as a young man." First, though, Freasier's state trooper mom had to give permission for him to star in the film opposite Lewis. Unfortunately, she was horrified by Gangs of New York before someone quickly sent her The Age of Innocence. Then she relented.

I was struck by the notation "a carbon neutral production" on the closing credits. This for a movie that involves a lot of gushing and dramatically burning oil. Anderson admitted afterwards that he had nothing to do with this and found it amusing, as the burning oil is real in the film and would be pretty hard to neutralize. "Did they plant a lot trees?" he asked. The ILM digital effects in the movie are mostly enhancements, along the lines of a wonderful shot of an oil lake with the sky reflecting in it. Anderson had seen a picture of a lake like that and wanted it in the film.

Ansen has a trove of info on this film. I hope he goes ahead and writes up what he knows online, even if Newsweek's print edition isn't interested.
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Post by: modage on November 18, 2007, 06:26:15 PM
i was just reading through some of the facebook reviews (http://apps.facebook.com/flixster/m/770671487) for this, from people who have SEEN the film and i just wanted to share a few so that we could puke together!

4/5 Stars
"This is an amazing masterpiece. Paul Thomas Anderson is my new favorite director. I give it one short on the stars because of some of the story elements are not my taste, but that being said, it doesn't diminish my incredible admiration for what the director accomplished. His work so simple he makes other people look great. All the acting was at the top of its game. The cinematography stellar."
- Carole Holliday (http://apps.facebook.com/flixster/u/798290421)

4/5 Stars
"Interesting, surely. But given that it's 3 hours in the company of a misanthrope festering in his own hateful bile, it's hardly a fun night at the movies. Knew I was going to have to see it, relieved to cross it off the list."
- Alexandra Mircheff (http://apps.facebook.com/flixster/u/789425277)

2/5 Stars
"I walked into this film knowing absolutely nothing about it. About 10 minutes in I was wondering who directed. I stayed interested, enjoying the off-beat way that it was filmed, the quirky script, and the somewhat intriguing premise...for a while. By about halfway in the film had steered down a number of cliched paths and the Kubrick-esque score had grown tiresome with it's psychological mindgames. By the time the director's credit flashed up on the screen at the end, I could only think to myself "There will be blood, yes, and it will be that of PT Anderson!" Arrrrrgh!!! Why, why, why?! Such promise. Such disappointment! Punch Drunk Love was a real step in the right direction, and redeemed Magnolia's excesses in a lot of ways, but this has gone in precisely the opposite direction, taking the overblown melodrama of Magnolia (which was somewhat effective and you could understand what it was trying to achieve) and instead trying to reduce things to the barest minimum, which frankly, just doesn't work in this film. PTA, I love you to death but you're killing me here!"
- Nicole Scheid (http://apps.facebook.com/flixster/u/802636651)

also:

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fprofile.ak.facebook.com%2Fprofile5%2F1138%2F88%2Fs3405565_1312.jpg&hash=0da60518533f31abc52418a6d7fd104a08004284) (http://apps.facebook.com/flixster/u/789792807)

that guy has seen it.
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Post by: MacGuffin on November 21, 2007, 11:48:14 AM
If Seth Rogen Retires, Blame Daniel Day-Lewis
Source: MTV

Before you pick up that ginormous turkey leg this week, take a moment to think of the insane and delightful universe we live in where Judd Apatow interviews Daniel Day-Lewis in front of an audience.

A while back, I read that this L.A. event was set to take place last week after a screening of the much anticipated P.T. Anderson flick, "There Will Be Blood." Even the thought of it had me regretting my east coast address ever since.

So when I chatted up Seth Rogen about his amazing 2007, I decided to ask him about the event, and sure enough he was there the night before. Said Rogen, "the Q&A with Judd was hilarious. Judd's first question was, 'Daniel, I know you're very private so I don't want to ask about your personal life, but I have to ask...which did you like more: 'Knocked Up' or 'Superbad'?' And he clearly had never heard of either." Rogen joked, "he was busy mining for oil in real life."

As for the film itself, it's got Seth's vote. "The movie itself is absolutely mindblowing," he said. Rogen continued, "it kind of makes me want to quit acting to watch Daniel Day-Lewis act. He came out afterward and talked and there's literally zero similarity between him and the character. They don't sound the same or look the same or move the same. It could not be more different than how I operate. I literally wear the same shirts."
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Post by: ElPandaRoyal on November 22, 2007, 09:37:17 AM
I'm a fan of Seth Rogen since "Freaks and Geeks", and the fact that he did love CMBB tells me he has some great taste in movies as well (and I haven't even seen CMBB), so he's pretty cool in my book.
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Post by: Stefen on November 23, 2007, 11:02:14 AM
Nicole Scheid is a bitch.

I'm going to get her pregnant then split while I'm high fiving PTA. Fuck her.
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Post by: theyarelegion on November 24, 2007, 10:34:38 AM
New trailer?

http://imdb.com/title/tt0469494/trailers-screenplay-E34611-314
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Post by: Stefen on November 24, 2007, 12:16:19 PM
Quote from: Omero on November 24, 2007, 10:34:38 AM
New trailer?

http://imdb.com/title/tt0469494/trailers-screenplay-E34611-314

I think that's just the first theatrical trailer. Which I like alot more than the new one that's up at quicktime.
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on November 28, 2007, 09:40:09 AM
Chere mill finally be BLOOD in
NEW YORK FUCKING CITY!!!!!



There Will Be Blood
With Paul Thomas Anderson and Daniel Day-Lewis in person
Tuesday, December 11, 7:00 p.m.
At Clearview Chelsea West, 333 West 23rd Street, Manhattan

2007, 158 mins., 35mm print courtesy Paramount Vantage. Daniel Day-Lewis (My Left Foot, The Last of the Mohicans, Gangs of New York) gives a magnificent performance as the ruthless and sociopathic oil tycoon Daniel Plainview in this "boldly and magnificently strange" epic (Variety). Loosely adapted from Upton Sinclair's 1927 novel Oil, the film has been compared to Citizen Kane and Giant. This is the most ambitious film to date by the Paul Thomas Anderson (Magnolia, Boogie Nights). The discussion with Daniel Day-Lewis and Paul Thomas Anderson will be moderated by Peter Bart, Editor-in-Chief, Variety.
Tickets $12 Museum members/free for Sponsor level and above/$18 non-members. Buy tickets online (https://shop.movingimage.us/shop/catlist.php?cPath=57) or call 718.784.4520.





"the Paul Thomas Anderson" is the new "the Christmas."


EDIT: link fixed
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Post by: JG on November 28, 2007, 10:13:09 AM
18 dollars, ugh, i swear - not for any other movie...

but there will be blood!
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Post by: modage on November 28, 2007, 10:29:25 AM
HOLY SHIT!!!

BEST BIRTHDAY EVER.
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Post by: noyes on November 28, 2007, 02:01:24 PM
wonderful news.
great birthday present indeed.
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Post by: cine on November 28, 2007, 02:29:46 PM
see you jerks there.

who's gonna ask a question and say they're from the Xixax Press?
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Post by: bonanzataz on November 28, 2007, 02:30:32 PM
god, i have so much work to do. i don't know if i want to travel all the way down there to see a movie by myself when i have so much to do.

would there be a xixax meet'n'greet at the box office?
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Post by: cine on November 28, 2007, 02:31:19 PM
taz we're all gonna be there. we're gonna show up Xixax LA like you wouldn't believe.
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Post by: bonanzataz on November 28, 2007, 02:39:16 PM
ok, i bought em. my sister's coming with me.
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on November 28, 2007, 03:19:36 PM
We should make a big xixax banner to have PTA and DDL hold in the event that we can get a group photo.  If we have a large enough group, they'll have no choice but to say yes.  That's where L.A. went wrong.  They didn't have things organized.
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Post by: ©brad on November 28, 2007, 03:25:34 PM
is everyone at least 21? b/c afterwards there will be drinking.
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Post by: cine on November 28, 2007, 03:35:02 PM
yes. There Will Be Booze.
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Post by: Stefen on November 28, 2007, 03:54:39 PM
Just got my ticket!!!

I'm going with Taz's sister!
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Post by: JG on November 28, 2007, 04:02:00 PM
HEY GUYS BUY ME BEER THANKS. 

asdkjghsakdjghasldkjgh it feels weird cos i want to look forward to the date, but i'll also have to have written like 3 papers, read moby dick, and studied for finals by that time. 

i knew it would be bad timing but sheeshhhhhhhhhh. 
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Post by: The Perineum Falcon on November 28, 2007, 04:17:52 PM
Well, at least you have the chance to go. I'll just stuck here, a thousand miles away, doing finals.

Distance makes the heart grow sadder. :(
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Post by: noyes on November 28, 2007, 04:32:57 PM
Quote from: JG on November 28, 2007, 04:02:00 PM
asdkjghsakdjghasldkjgh it feels weird cos i want to look forward to the date, but i'll also have to have written like 3 papers, read moby dick, and studied for finals by that time. 

i can totally relate.
i have a shit load of work to do, starting with a goddamn 4000 word essay due tomorrow..
it'll be cool seeing PTA in person for the 1st time though. can't wait.
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Post by: cine on November 28, 2007, 04:46:54 PM
Quote from: noyes on November 28, 2007, 04:32:57 PMit'll be cool seeing PTA in person for the 1st time though.

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsnoot.org%2Fi%2Fwuss%2Fvg%2Fscreens%2Fpunchout.gif&hash=6d4f776ab45fc76f26330a62d8351734307a1885)
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Post by: noyes on November 28, 2007, 05:03:01 PM
i mean that genuinely. haha.
besides finally getting to watch the movie and hearing him and DDL answer question after question,
it'll be great to finally be in the same room with the man.
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Post by: bonanzataz on November 28, 2007, 05:43:40 PM
Quote from: Stefen on November 28, 2007, 03:54:39 PM
Just got my ticket!!!

I'm going with Taz's sister!

god... i'll wait for the 25th, thanks!
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Post by: Pedro on November 28, 2007, 08:21:45 PM
raaaa i wish i lived closer to the city/didn't have class wednesday.
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Post by: Pubrick on November 28, 2007, 08:38:15 PM
Quote from: Pedro the Alpaca on November 28, 2007, 08:21:45 PM
raaaa i wish i lived closer to the city/didn't have class wednesday.

skip class and hitchhike.

together we can make this the worst decision of your life.
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Post by: Stefen on November 28, 2007, 08:57:47 PM
Pedro, you'll regret it for the rest of your life if you don't.

You'll always be thinking 'What if?'

Do you really wanna always wonder?

I think you know the answer to that.
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Post by: samsong on November 28, 2007, 11:51:45 PM
got me a ticket. 
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Post by: SiliasRuby on November 28, 2007, 11:55:48 PM
pedro is now having a talk with the little devil and little angel on two of his shoulders wondering...which one should I choose?
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Post by: noyes on November 29, 2007, 12:02:47 AM
Little Devil: Do yourself a favor and get your ass to New York City.
Little Angel:.....
Little Devil: Exactly.
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Post by: cine on November 29, 2007, 12:05:13 AM
if pedro misses out, the angel and devil will collectively punch him out so bad, it'll be like he was in the middle of a crono/thor brawl.
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Post by: Pubrick on November 29, 2007, 04:29:11 AM
Quote from: Cinephile on November 29, 2007, 12:05:13 AM
it'll be like he was in the middle of a crono/thor brawl.

while waiting in line at a daft punk concert with mogs and REDACTED

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi5.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy154%2Fpubrick%2Fknocked_the_fuck_out.gif&hash=d51ca94de4e6c15791f4fe062ee28a83ec35e1f6)
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Post by: Sleepless on November 29, 2007, 09:00:27 AM
If you're in New York - GO!!! Forget about everything else. I have NOTHING to do, but I'm in Dallas :(
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Post by: MacGuffin on November 29, 2007, 10:13:56 AM
Daniel Day-Lewis' intense role-playing
The actor believes in becoming the characters he portrays. Here are some of his more eye-catching efforts.
By Susan King, Los Angeles Times

Robert De Niro packed on the pounds to play fighter Jake La Motta in 1980's "Raging Bull" and won his only best actor Oscar for his effort. Seven years later, he gained weight for his role as Al Capone in "The Untouchables." On the other side of the scale, Christian Bale and Emile Hirsch got dangerously thin for their roles in "Rescue Dawn" and "Into the Wild," respectively.

But no other contemporary actor has gotten into the skin of a character more than Daniel Day-Lewis, who has taken the Method style of acting further than Stanislavsky could ever have imagined. Not only has Day-Lewis gained and lost weight and changed his hairstyles and accents at the drop of a hat for his roles, he also does enormous hands-on research for his role. To play an American Indian in "The Last of the Mohicans," for example, the 50-year-old British-born actor made a canoe. And his meticulous detail to his craft is on view in his latest film, "There Will Be Blood," in which he plays an oil tycoon, Daniel Plainview.

"What helps me an awful lot is to somehow get rid of the illusion that one is making a film," Day-Lewis once said, "because that in itself creates a sensation of unreality."

Here's a look at the characters Day-Lewis has created over the years:

"My Beautiful Laundrette": After he appeared in small roles in 1982's "Gandhi" and 1984's "The Bounty," movie audiences got their first real look at Day-Lewis in Stephen Frears' 1985 film, which was released in the U.S. in 1986. He played Johnny, a swaggering gay punk with skunk-colored hair.

"A Room With a View": It was hard to believe that the same actor who played Johnny was also the stiff-upper-lipped, priggish British aristocrat Cecil Vyse in the award-winning Merchant-Ivory film, which was also released stateside in 1986.

"The Unbearable Lightness of Being": Day-Lewis learned Czech to playing Tomas, a womanizing doctor in Prague in 1968 in Philip Kaufman's acclaimed adaptation of the Milan Kundera novel. During the eight-month shoot, he remained in character on and off the set. The film, which had several erotic love scenes, turned Day-Lewis into a sex symbol.

"My Left Foot": Day-Lewis won a bushel full of awards, including the best actor Oscar, for his towering, audacious performance in this 1989 biographical drama about Christy Brown, the artist and writer who was born with cerebral palsy into a poor Dublin family. The only part of his body over which he had control was his left foot and it is with that that he learns to express himself through writing and painting. Not only did Day-Lewis downplay his good looks with his close-cropped hair and beard to play Brown, he also immersed himself in all things Brown. Before production began, he rented a house near the Sandymount School and Clinic in Dublin, one of the country's top centers for the treatment of the disabled, and studied the patients. He learned how to paint with his left foot and several of the paintings used in the film were his achievements. As with "Unbearable Lightness," he refused to break character, remaining in his wheelchair throughout the entire shoot even if that meant that he had to be carried by crew members over cables and other obstacles on the set.

"The Last of the Mohicans": Day-Lewis returned to his sex symbol status in Michael Mann's popular 1992 adaptation of the old James Fenimore Cooper tale. Buffed to the max -- he added 20 pounds of muscle to his lean frame with an austere training regime -- Day-Lewis burns up the screen as the brave and romantic Hawkeye. He also studied hunting, woodworking and how to track and skin animals. During the shoot, Day-Lewis steadfastly carried his rifle around during filming and even made his own canoe.

"The Age of Innocence": To prepare for playing the well-educated, high-society attorney Newland Archer in Martin Scorsese's 1993 adaptation of Edith Wharton's novel, Day-Lewis strolled around Manhattan for months wearing 1870s clothing and reeking of perfume.

"In the Name of the Father": Day-Lewis reunited with his "My Left Foot" director Jim Sheridan for this 1993 drama for which he received a best actor Oscar nomination as Gerry Conlon, who as a member of the Guildford Four was unjustly convicted of a bombing that had been carried out by the Provisional IRA. Not only did Day-Lewis lose weight for this role -- he subsided on prison rations -- he kept his Northern Irish accent on and off the set, and would spend periods of time in a prison cell. Day-Lewis insisted that the crew throw cold water on him and utter verbal abuses to mimic Conlon's life in prison.

"The Boxer": Day-Lewis and Sheridan collaborated for the third time in this 1997 drama about a former IRA member and boxer who tries to put his life and career back together after he is released from prison. To play the bulky pugilist, he underwent extensive training with former boxing world champ Barry McGuigan.

"Gangs of New York": After going into "semi-retirement" after "The Boxer" -- delving into his old passion for woodworking, as well as going to Florence, Italy, and becoming an apprentice shoemaker, Day-Lewis returned to celluloid in 2002 in Martin Scorsese's epic set in 1860s New York. Day-Lewis received his third Academy Award nomination for his no-holds-barred turn as New York City gang leader Bill "the Butcher." For his role, he took lessons to become an apprentice butcher. But his fervid dedication to the part is believed to have led to a severe case of pneumonia because he refused to wear a warmer coat when it got cold on location in Rome. Why? The garment was not in keeping with the time period.

"There Will Be Blood": For his role as the fiery oil man in Paul Thomas Anderson's adaptation of Upton Sinclair's "Oil!," Day-Lewis again physically transformed himself down to his Snidely Whiplash mustache and booming voice that recalls director John Huston and his famous father, actor Walter Huston. He also spent two years studying that period in American history and learned how to operate the tools of turn-of-the-century oilmen.
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Post by: Stefen on November 29, 2007, 12:38:18 PM
Did you guys have trouble getting tickets?
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Post by: md on November 29, 2007, 12:41:22 PM
nope.  :yabbse-grin:

edit: One of the workers at Moving Image just called me up asking where I heard about the prescreening since it wasn't publicized.  I simply told them they best damn website in the world.  Apparently some people have been abusing their online ticket sales system so he told me he was taking it off their website.  I bought 82 tickets.   
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on November 29, 2007, 12:43:46 PM
It would appear that there will not be blood for anyone who didn't get the tickets yesterday. 
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Post by: Ghostboy on November 29, 2007, 06:52:31 PM
Goddamn it. I think I'm doomed to see this movie on its release date. Which isn't a bad thing, I guess, since the 26th is my birthday. But still -- I wish I could be there with you New Yorkers to join the xixax congregation. Alas, I shan't be.
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Post by: ©brad on November 29, 2007, 08:33:07 PM
Quote from: Ghostboy on November 29, 2007, 06:52:31 PM
Goddamn it. I think I'm doomed to see this movie on its release date. Which isn't a bad thing, I guess, since the 26th is my birthday. But still -- I wish I could be there with you New Yorkers to join the xixax congregation. Alas, I shan't be.

dude come to nyc! you can crash on my couch!
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Post by: Ghostboy on November 29, 2007, 08:42:36 PM
Alas, I'm too broke! Movemaking hasn't been anywhere near as kind to me as it was the year before last, when I flew to NY this time of year just to see Inland Empire. And I've gotta save my money (or credit card, I should say) for Park City...
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Post by: B.C. Long on November 29, 2007, 08:53:23 PM
I wonder if this is real...

http://www.torrentreactor.net/torrents/1394658/There.Will.Be.Blood.(2007).DVDRip.XviD
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Post by: john on November 29, 2007, 10:37:56 PM
If this is real, I think Xixax membership should be taken away from anyone who downloads and watches it without, at least, seeing it in a theater good and proper first.

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Post by: bonanzataz on November 30, 2007, 02:09:50 AM
AAAH IT REQUIRES A PASSWORD, WHY?!?!!11!!
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Post by: B.C. Long on November 30, 2007, 02:58:15 AM
it's not in the .txt file it came with?
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Post by: cron on November 30, 2007, 10:04:54 AM
Quote from: john on November 29, 2007, 10:37:56 PM
If this is real, I think Xixax membership should be taken away from anyone who downloads and watches it without, at least, seeing it in a theater good and proper first.




why?
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Post by: Stefen on November 30, 2007, 10:43:54 AM
It would make sense for a DVD screener to be making the rounds at this time wouldn't it?

I'd much rather watch it at home alone than at the NYC screening with a bunch of film nerds who smell like lunch meat.
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Post by: Astrostic on November 30, 2007, 11:21:17 AM
so i bought a ticket, but my boyfriend didn't get one, but wants to go.  did anyone here happen to buy an extra?
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Post by: md on November 30, 2007, 11:48:00 AM
tickets are still available for members. best bet is to find someone who is a member or become a member.
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Post by: Pozer on November 30, 2007, 12:11:59 PM
Quote from: Stefen on November 30, 2007, 10:43:54 AM
It would make sense for a DVD screener to be making the rounds at this time wouldn't it? 

weird.  my sis works for E! she sent me a text this morning claiming someone she knows there hooked her up with a copy of twbb & american gangster who cares what else.
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Post by: john on November 30, 2007, 02:31:02 PM
Quote from: cronopio on November 30, 2007, 10:04:54 AM
Quote from: john on November 29, 2007, 10:37:56 PM
If this is real, I think Xixax membership should be taken away from anyone who downloads and watches it without, at least, seeing it in a theater good and proper first.




why?

Alright, with certain provisions...

I think anyone who lives in a country where it doesn't have a release date, should have at it. Or, if you have absolutely no ability to get to a movie theater that's showing it... fine. Other than that, if you haven't seen it and your seeing it for the first time as a downloaded file on your computer... then what's the point of even seeing it at all?

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Post by: Stefen on November 30, 2007, 05:16:24 PM
If it's a DVD screener, the quality will be awesome and you can just burn it to a DVD and watch it on your regular TV like you just bought it.
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Post by: Astrostic on November 30, 2007, 05:20:12 PM
I downloaded it to see if it is real. it is not. they want you to subscribe to spam sites and porn sites before they give you the password for the file.  I put in the password as password, it seemed to work, and then when i tried to open it, it said it was corrupt.
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Post by: cron on November 30, 2007, 06:16:43 PM
cocksucker
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Post by: Stefen on November 30, 2007, 06:24:53 PM
Quote from: pozer on November 30, 2007, 12:11:59 PM
Quote from: Stefen on November 30, 2007, 10:43:54 AM
It would make sense for a DVD screener to be making the rounds at this time wouldn't it? 

weird.  my sis works for E! she sent me a text this morning claiming someone she knows there hooked her up with a copy of twbb & american gangster who cares what else.

Rip it.

American Gangster has been out for a month or so on the torrent sites.
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Post by: cine on November 30, 2007, 06:47:22 PM
so i never knew Astrostic was gay.

not that it matters or anything, it's cool.. it feels like the board is a bit more diverse now.  :yabbse-undecided:
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Post by: Stefen on November 30, 2007, 06:50:05 PM
Yeah, let's all put our sexual preference in our profile so nobody can be surprised

Seriously, who gives a shit?

I really want someone to rip a CMBB DVD screener. I mean, really, really, really bad.
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Post by: md on November 30, 2007, 08:38:23 PM
If money is the motivation, why would you put up a fake rip of TWBB?  Why not something bigger like uh, Mr Magoriums Wonderful whatever; something moms would be click happy for.  Its probably real. 
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Post by: Pubrick on November 30, 2007, 08:49:11 PM
i understand the need to see the movie NOW but seriously if you can see it in a proper big screen setting with excellent sound, do that FIRST. then rewatch it on the screener if you want, sure, that's where the majority of viewings will take place in the end.. but there can only be one first time, and i would not want it to be on a tv. the added bonus of being able to watch it naked with your dick in your hand without anyone staring is just not enuff for me.

i saw PDL on a screener for the first time cos otherwise i had to wait MONTHS. this time it's only until december 1st, apparently, so i can't justify it. of course, if you really don't give a shit about pta anyway, forget everything i said.
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Post by: diggler on December 01, 2007, 05:31:13 PM
i wonder how many of you know whether it's real or not but refuse to say so because everyone will know that you tried to watch it early.
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Post by: Pubrick on December 01, 2007, 07:16:35 PM
oh, i've watched the screener.
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Post by: Chest Rockwell on December 01, 2007, 08:23:43 PM
Ballocks. I hate living in Florida. There's no better character-builder than patience...right?
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Post by: B.C. Long on December 01, 2007, 08:37:18 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on December 01, 2007, 07:16:35 PM
oh, i've watched the screener.

for serious? That link worked?
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Post by: hedwig on December 01, 2007, 08:45:29 PM
Quote from: Chest Rockwell on December 01, 2007, 08:23:43 PM
Ballocks. I hate living in Florida. There's no better character-builder than patience...right?

right!

:yabbse-sad:
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Post by: Pubrick on December 02, 2007, 12:03:02 PM
Quote from: B.C. Long on December 01, 2007, 08:37:18 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on December 01, 2007, 07:16:35 PM
oh, i've watched the screener.

for serious? That link worked?

pozer, help me out here..
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Post by: Pozer on December 03, 2007, 12:31:09 PM
oh i havnt seen the movie.
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Post by: Reinhold on December 04, 2007, 01:49:44 PM
i missed the opportunity to get tickets to the MoMI screening with daniel day lewis but i just got an e-mail from a professor saying he will probably be able to hook me up with a few tickets to the premiere at the ziegfeld on the 10th.

attention nyc xixaxers: if my girlfriend has to work then i might have an extra ticket (i'm lookin' at you, mod).
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Post by: modage on December 04, 2007, 01:52:11 PM
continue to look at me.  know that your girlfriend does not really love you and/or it will probably not work out.  but an xixax lasts forever.
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Post by: Reinhold on December 04, 2007, 02:10:13 PM
deep in my heart i've always known that....  unfortunately i just got an e-mail back and it's not a ticket-in-hand kind of thing. our names are on a list.

Quote from: modage on December 04, 2007, 01:52:11 PM
it will probably not work out.  but an xixax lasts forever.

marquee material.

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Post by: Gamblour. on December 04, 2007, 04:03:38 PM
Agree with marquee material, but only if there's "a/an" involved. Need we have the pronunciation conversation again?
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Post by: cron on December 04, 2007, 05:40:21 PM
it's  "JiJaJ". like Mejico.
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Post by: Pubrick on December 04, 2007, 07:56:23 PM
Quote from: Gamblour. on December 04, 2007, 04:03:38 PM
Agree with marquee material, but only if there's "a/an" involved.

the only way "an" can be justified is by spelling out the word, letter by letter. "an ex eye ex ay ex" "annexe sigh yex sayex".. that sucks.

haha, i like jijaj..
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 05, 2007, 10:42:13 AM
JONNY GREENWOOD
Source: Los Angeles Times

In Paul Thomas Anderson's films, music is not just significant -- it's often front and center, impossible to ignore. Anderson prominently featured Aimee Mann's emotive ballads in "Magnolia" and Jon Brion's pump-organ symphonies in "Punch-Drunk Love," and his use of music reaches new heights of inspiration in "There Will Be Blood." In this visceral tale of greed, hypocrisy and sociopathic hatred in oil-rich, turn-of-the-20th-century California, the toxic sentiments seem to bubble up from (and seep back into) the volatile orchestral score by Radiohead guitarist Jonny Greenwood, working in movies for the first time.

"It was a far freer musical experience than I expected," Greenwood said. "There were no real click tracks, no points to hit or duck at exactly the right second. It felt like we were always recording minutes of music, rather than seconds."

Greenwood, whose band's "In Rainbows" is one of the year's best-reviewed albums, moonlights as composer in residence for the BBC Concert Orchestra.

Horror films were a reference point for "Blood," Greenwood said. He and Anderson also discussed "early American church music and what that would have sounded like in these isolated towns." Daniel Day-Lewis' eyes "were probably the biggest single influence," he said, for the mood of unspoken malice. "But there's also a kid in the middle of the story, so I tried to get some sweetness and hope in the music too."

The score's unnerving dissonance begins with the blast of strings that accompanies the first shot and never lets up. "We were limited to period instruments, but within that we tried to disconcert the viewer," Greenwood said. "It's the sense that something's gone wrong, a broken orchestra. For one cue, we detuned the strings to unplayable slackness. And some of the more conventional chamber stuff has awkward hesitations written into it. I'm really interested in mistakes."
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 05, 2007, 05:46:01 PM
Campaign ad in the Screen Actors Guild magazine:


(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi116.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo15%2FMac_Guffin%2Ftwbb.jpg&hash=d3f64580df26f8b0e767b0def2b1f5bb4fd17ae3)
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Post by: modage on December 05, 2007, 06:02:33 PM
aw.  Maxim quote.  sad...
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Post by: Pubrick on December 05, 2007, 06:08:45 PM
that shoulda been the poster.

if this movie doesn't sweep all the major (and minor) awards, i'm blaming the font. and maxim.

thanks for scanning that one, mac. saved me a trip to my local SAG news stand.
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Post by: picolas on December 05, 2007, 06:44:17 PM
i did a double take thinking it was Xixax on my way down the quote.
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Post by: Astrostic on December 06, 2007, 03:53:34 PM
has anyone received their tickets for the Museum of Moving Image screening yet?  I live in Boston, and I haven't gotten mine, and I can just see it not coming in the mail by Tuesday, and then I have to explain to the people there what happened, and then there's blood everywhere because they don't let me in.
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 06, 2007, 05:28:10 PM
Shhhhhh...

http://nodatta.blogspot.com/2007/12/jonny-greenwood-there-will-be-blood-ost.html
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Post by: Stefen on December 06, 2007, 05:32:16 PM
This is why Nodatta is the best blog on teh netz.
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Post by: RegularKarate on December 06, 2007, 08:35:46 PM
Conversation yesterday:

My friend, Cody: I got to see Walk Hard this afternoon.. Matt got me into the press screening, he's seeing There Will Be Blood tomorrow

ME: What's Matt's number?

...

I took a picture of me praying and texted it to Matt.

I got a text with where and when to meet him this afternoon.

I saw There Will Be Blood today.
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Post by: theyarelegion on December 07, 2007, 12:00:54 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin on December 06, 2007, 05:28:10 PM
Shhhhhh...

http://nodatta.blogspot.com/2007/12/jonny-greenwood-there-will-be-blood-ost.html

Thank you, sir!
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Post by: tpfkabi on December 07, 2007, 08:12:58 AM
Quote from: RegularKarate on December 06, 2007, 08:35:46 PM
I saw There Will Be Blood today.

and then.....?
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Post by: RegularKarate on December 07, 2007, 12:25:51 PM
Quote from: bigideas on December 07, 2007, 08:12:58 AM
Quote from: RegularKarate on December 06, 2007, 08:35:46 PM
I saw There Will Be Blood today.

and then.....?

and then I get to help interview John C. Reilly today.

oh, you mean what did I think?  it was amazing... my spoiling spoils are in the spoiler spoil
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Post by: tpfkabi on December 07, 2007, 02:19:04 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate on December 07, 2007, 12:25:51 PM
Quote from: bigideas on December 07, 2007, 08:12:58 AM
Quote from: RegularKarate on December 06, 2007, 08:35:46 PM
I saw There Will Be Blood today.

and then.....?

and then I get to help interview John C. Reilly today.

oh, you mean what did I think?  it was amazing... my spoiling spoils are in the spoiler spoil

ok.
i'm staying away from that thread.
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 07, 2007, 03:24:22 PM
The Background of BLOOD
One of filmmaker Paul Thomas Anderson's secrets to acting success involves people who have absolutely no shot at an Academy Award nomination.
By FilmStew.com

The buzz is steadily building about Daniel Day-Lewis' performance as turn of the century oil man Daniel Plainview in There Will Be Blood, and deservedly so. It is another tour de force, all-in bravura performance, destined to be the one to beat next February at the Kodak Center.

But as far as the film's writer-director Paul Thomas Anderson is concerned, an equal shout out deserves to be given to someone by the name of Kristan Berona. As a member of Sande Alessi Casting, an 11-year San Fernando Valley based extras casting outfit with credits ranging from Pirates of the Caribbean to War of the Worlds to the Austin Powers movies, Berona made sure the locals chosen for on location shooting in Marfa, Texas looked the part.

"Without exaggerating, I think that a film lives and dies by its extras," insists Anderson. "The locals in the film had that West Texas flavor that can only come from living in that place. You can have a great actor like Daniel Day-Lewis, but if the person who is standing behind him is all wrong and a distraction, you're dead."

Berona's boss, Sande Alessi – whose own extra work career at one point encompassed repeat stints as a waitress on Seinfeld - obviously has a sense of humor. Her business is incorporated as 'The Casting Couch Inc.,' a misnomer since most people willing to sleep with a producer or director are looking for much more than a part with no lines. Or at least the smarter portion of those engaged in this time honored pratice.
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Post by: B.C. Long on December 07, 2007, 03:25:45 PM
Frick. How can the soundtrack not include the track where SPOILERS Oil geyser explodes/H.W. goes deaf?!!?!?! END SPOILERS
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 07, 2007, 03:29:26 PM
That's not what happens to him, and that track, Convergence, was on Greenwood's Bodysong soundtrack:

http://nodatta.blogspot.com/2007/04/jonny-greenwood-bodysong-soundtrack.html
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Post by: B.C. Long on December 07, 2007, 03:37:46 PM
Wow, I've seen the movie and I said that. Can I count that as a typo?  :oops:
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Post by: idk on December 07, 2007, 07:10:08 PM
wow that was scary to scroll over

on the updated official twbb website the song they have playing has certain parts that sound very similar to that one song from eyes wide shut
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Post by: theyarelegion on December 08, 2007, 12:34:12 AM
from cigarettes and red vines:

"little boston news has been updated. all the previous production photos filled with crew members and assistants have been replaced with a deleted scene from the film called 'campfire.'"

http://www.littlebostonnews.com
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Post by: md on December 08, 2007, 10:54:54 AM
Quote from: B.C. Long on December 07, 2007, 03:37:46 PM
Wow, I've seen the movie and I said that. Can I count that as a typo?  :oops:
dumbie
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Post by: children with angels on December 08, 2007, 11:12:57 AM
I haven't seen the film (and won't till feb - thanks, UK), and as such I'm obviously not about to go venturing into the jungle of the ruinous spoilers in order to find out: has anyone who has seen the film actually been disappointed by it at all? Considering the amount of expectation surrounding it, that seems extraordinary - and makes me even more worried in a sense...
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Post by: Pozer on December 08, 2007, 04:37:29 PM
you should be worried.  movie sux.
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Post by: idk on December 09, 2007, 12:05:29 AM
on the vantage guilds website (http://www.vantageguilds.com/twbb/index.html) they put stuff in the "production notes" section that was previously vacant, some new quotes and other stuff although in some parts it seems to get a little too in depth plot wise, i skipped over these parts so im not sure how spoilery it gets
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Post by: Myxo on December 10, 2007, 02:07:52 AM
L.A. Film Critics give 'Blood,' Lewis top honors (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i58cca3606862e9736150a65533f9c29f?pn=1)

Paul Thomas Anderson's "There Will Be Blood," an epic tale of the oil business in early 20th-century California, won four awards from the Los Angeles Film Critics Association in their year-end voting Sunday including best picture, director and actor honors.

Anderson was selected as best director while Daniel-Day Lewis' performance as a rapacious oil man in "There Will Be Blood" won as best actor.

For cinematography, the group voted for Janusz Kaminski's work in "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly." Robert Elswit's cinematography on "There Will Be Blood" was runner-up.

For best musical score, the critics selected the score -- mostly songs written by Glen Hansard and Markita Irglova -- for the Irish musical "Once." Jonny Greenwood's score for "There Will Be Blood" was runner-up.
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on December 10, 2007, 02:18:00 PM
So who all is gettin bloody tomorrow?
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Post by: modage on December 10, 2007, 02:20:39 PM
Quote from: IN SPAR_ROWS on December 10, 2007, 02:18:00 PM
So who all is gettin bloody tomorrow?
YES.  can we get a roll call of anybody going who wants to meetup?

i know myself, cbrad and cinephile will all be in attendance and meeting up prior to the screening.
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Post by: Gamblour. on December 10, 2007, 02:30:05 PM
Sigh, fucking jealous of you cunts.
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Post by: JG on December 10, 2007, 03:05:40 PM
i'm going to be there, but all i know is i'll be writing a paper all day prior to and don't know when i'm getting there (should there be a concern for getting a good seat?).  i'm also suppose to be going with a few chaps from class, but we'll see.  i'll say hello at the very least.  samsong will be there too if i'm not mistaken, right samsong? 
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Post by: modage on December 10, 2007, 08:58:30 PM
did anybody get a ticket in the mail?  or is it willcall?  don't make me have a freakout.
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Post by: Astrostic on December 10, 2007, 09:17:18 PM
I called them this afternoon and the guy I spoke to said that everyone who bought a ticket has their name on a list that they will check at the theatre doors.  If you bought more than one ticket it shows that and they let in that many people.  I wish they would just give us tickets so we didn't have to necessarily be present with everyone we bought a ticket for if we bought more than one.
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Post by: bonanzataz on December 10, 2007, 09:27:58 PM
i'll be there, but i don't think i'm going out afterwards. i gotta get back up to school in boston.
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Post by: tpfkabi on December 10, 2007, 10:22:02 PM
have they made any indication on just how limited this will be on Dec 26th?
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Post by: samsong on December 10, 2007, 10:38:26 PM
i'll be there.
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 11, 2007, 12:31:52 AM
Berlin unveils first competition films
'There Will Be Blood' joins lineup
Source: Variety

"S.O.P. Standard Operating Procedure," Errol Morris' examination of human rights violations at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq; Paul Thomas Anderson's "There Will Be Blood," starring Daniel Day-Lewis; and Brazilian box office hit "Tropa Elite" (The Elite Squad), about the brutal war between gangs and police in Rio de Janeiro, will be among the titles contending for the Golden Bear at next year's Berlin Film Festival, which kicks off Feb. 7.

The lineup was released Monday in Berlin.

"Blood" will be the sixth film starring Day-Lewis to screen in Berlin and the fifth in the main competition section, after "In the Name of the Father" (1994), "The Crucible" (1997), "The Boxer" (1998) and "Gangs of New York" (2003). "The Ballad of Jack and Rose," directed by his wife, Rebecca Miller, screened in Panorama in 2005.

In addition to poignant themes of corruption, military abuse and the lasting effects of human greed, the first eight pics selected for competition also address the human struggle with suffering, disease and death.

Mexican director and former Berlinale Talent Campus participant Fernando Eimbcke tells the story of a teen coping with his father's sudden death in "Lake Tahoe," while German helmer Doris Doerrie's "Cherry Blossoms -- Hanami" revolves around a man with cancer who must come to grips with the unexpected death of his wife.

Chinese director Wang Xiaoshuai, who won the Silver Bear in 2001 for "Beijing Bicycle," is back with "Zuo you" ("In Love We Trust"), about a mother who has cancer and resorts to unusual measures to save her firstborn.

In "Gardens of the Night," Damian Harris follows the fate of two children who are abducted and held captive for nearly 10 years. Pic stars Gillian Jacobs, Evan Ross, Tom Arnold and John Malkovich.

Andrzej Wajda, who received the Golden Bear for lifetime achievement in 2006, will present his latest work, "Katyn," out of competition. Pic examines the long-taboo subject of the 1940 massacre of thousands of Polish war prisoners by the Soviet secret service.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: ©brad on December 11, 2007, 07:17:57 AM
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on December 11, 2007, 09:23:43 AM
When PTA meets xixax... There Will Be Blood.
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Post by: SiliasRuby on December 11, 2007, 10:35:20 AM
that made me laugh sparrows, thanks, I've been heavily sick from last friday night up to now and I needed a smile. Thanks...bleh.
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Post by: JG on December 11, 2007, 10:47:40 AM
what time yall getting in line?
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Post by: modage on December 11, 2007, 10:56:13 AM
i think cinephile will be there by 5pm.  i'm leaving work at 5pm so i'll be there around 5:30.
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on December 11, 2007, 11:17:16 AM
I'll probably be getting there around 5 as well.
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Post by: tpfkabi on December 11, 2007, 11:20:42 AM
how many xixax people will be there?

if at least 5 you could do like sports fans and each have a letter of xixax painted on your chest - then all get in a pic with PTA.

:yabbse-thumbdown:
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Post by: The Perineum Falcon on December 11, 2007, 12:12:03 PM
Quote from: bigideas on December 11, 2007, 11:20:42 AM
how many xixax people will be there?

if at least 5 you could do like sports fans and each have a letter of xixax painted on your chest - then all get in a pic with PTA.

:yabbse-thumbdown:
yeah, badideas
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Post by: Pozer on December 11, 2007, 12:38:56 PM
I said - THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYRE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT GONNA HAPPEN!
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Gamblour. on December 11, 2007, 01:12:58 PM
Goddammit I need to live in New York. Can we organize a pair of Xixax East/West coast parties when this is set to release on dvd?
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on December 11, 2007, 01:17:59 PM
We should do it for the Oscars so we can all get upset together when No Country beats this out for Best Picture and Juno beats it out for Best Original Screenplay (due to a Syriana-type call that it's not close enough to Oil! to qualify as Adapted).
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: tpfkabi on December 11, 2007, 01:59:44 PM
Quote from: pozer on December 11, 2007, 12:38:56 PM
I said - THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYRE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT GONNA HAPPEN!

do you only know that reference because of In Rainbows?
i've had the screenname for several years.

get a grip and paint your belly.

there's no way pta will forget that plug and then he'll join up.

:yabbse-thumbdown:
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Post by: Gamblour. on December 11, 2007, 02:55:10 PM
Quote from: IN SPAR_ROWS on December 11, 2007, 01:17:59 PM
We should do it for the Oscars so we can all get upset together when No Country beats this out for Best Picture and Juno beats it out for Best Original Screenplay (due to a Syriana-type call that it's not close enough to Oil! to qualify as Adapted).

Good enough for me.
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Post by: Pozer on December 11, 2007, 03:17:36 PM
Quote from: bigideas on December 11, 2007, 01:59:44 PM
Quote from: pozer on December 11, 2007, 12:38:56 PM
I said - THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYRE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT GONNA HAPPEN!

do you only know that reference because of In Rainbows?
i've had the screenname for several years.

Quote from: Pubrick on September 07, 2007, 12:50:16 AM
i believe in this gag.
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Post by: tpfkabi on December 11, 2007, 04:23:20 PM
Quote from: pozer on December 11, 2007, 03:17:36 PM
Quote from: bigideas on December 11, 2007, 01:59:44 PM
Quote from: pozer on December 11, 2007, 12:38:56 PM
I said - THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYRE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT GONNA HAPPEN!

do you only know that reference because of In Rainbows?
i've had the screenname for several years.

Quote from: Pubrick on September 07, 2007, 12:50:16 AM
i believe in this gag.

sep 7th.
many moons have passed.
you'll have to refresh my memory.
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Post by: hedwig on December 11, 2007, 04:32:57 PM
bigideas: read carefully. the gag is that your username is bigideas and the song says "don't get any big ideas they're not gonna happen" and you never get any big ideas. this is a fact proven by every single post you make.

that's the gag. he believes in the gag of using the lyrics to point out your cluelessness. he is quoting pubrick saying "i believe in this gag" because he believes in the gag that i just explained. whether or not pozer knew the song before In Rainbows has nothing to do with anything. i didn't understand why you asked that and i assumed you just didn't get it.. now i realize that is the explanation for all of the weird random senseless stuff you post: YOU DONT GET IT. :|

get it?
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 11, 2007, 04:55:23 PM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newyorker.com%2Fimages%2F2007%2F12%2F17%2Fp465%2F071217_r16909_p465.jpg&hash=0e4bab173df709736cd1a93afb76f48efcf21fe8)

Hard Life
by David Denby; The New Yorker

**SPOILERS**

Early in "There Will Be Blood," an enthralling and powerfully eccentric American epic (opening on December 26th), Daniel Plainview climbs down a ladder at his small silver mine. A rung breaks, and Daniel (Daniel Day-Lewis) falls to the base of the shaft and smashes his leg. He's filthy, miserable, gasping for breath and life. The year is 1898. Two and a half hours later (and more than thirty years later in the time span of the film), he's on the floor again, this time sitting on a polished bowling lane in the basement of an enormous mansion that he has built on the Pacific Coast. Having abandoned silver mining for oil, Daniel has become one of the wealthiest tycoons in Southern California. Yet he's still filthy, with dirty hands and a face that glistens from too much oil raining down on him—it looks as if oil were seeping from his pores. The experience chronicled between these two moments is as astounding in its emotional force and as haunting and mysterious as anything seen in American movies in recent years. I'm not quite sure how it happened, but after making "Magnolia" (1999) and "Punch-Drunk Love" (2002)—skillful but whimsical movies, with many whims that went nowhere—the young writer-director Paul Thomas Anderson has now done work that bears comparison to the greatest achievements of Griffith and Ford. The movie is a loose adaptation of Upton Sinclair's 1927 novel "Oil!," but Anderson has taken Sinclair's bluff, genial oilman and turned him into a demonic character who bears more than a passing resemblance to Melville's Ahab. Stumping around on that bad leg, which was never properly set, Daniel Plainview—obsessed, brilliant, both warm-hearted and vicious—has Ahab's egotism and command. As for Daniel Day-Lewis, his performance makes one think of Laurence Olivier at his most physically and spiritually audacious.

At the start, Daniel and a small group of workers, wildcatting for oil, give themselves entirely to their perilous labor. There isn't a word of dialogue. Again and again, Anderson creates raptly muscular passages—men lifting, hauling, pounding, dragging, working silently in the muck and viscous slime. Yet this film is hardly the kind of glory-of-industry documentary that bored us in school. "There Will Be Blood" is about the driving force of capitalism as it both creates and destroys the future, and the film's tone is at once elated and sickened. A dissonant, ominous electronic wail, written by the Radiohead guitarist and composer Jonny Greenwood, warns us of trouble ahead. Once the derricks are up, Greenwood imitates the rhythmic thud of the drill bits and pumps with bustling passages of plucked strings and pounding sticks. "Blood" has the pulse of the future in its rhythms. Like the most elegiac Western, this movie is about the vanishing American frontier. The thrown-together buildings look scraggly and unkempt, the homesteaders are modest, stubborn, and reticent, but, in their undreamed-of future, Wal-Mart is on the way. Anderson, working with the cinematographer Robert Elswit, has become a master of the long tracking shot across still, empty landscapes. The movie, which cost a relatively cheap twenty-five million dollars to make, has gravity and weight without pomp; it's austerely magnificent, and, when violence comes—an exploding oil well, a fight—it's staged cleanly, in open space, and not as a tumult of digital effects or a tempest in an editing room.

One of the workers holds and kisses a baby, then dies in an accident, and Daniel raises the child, whom he calls H.W. (Dillon Freasier), as his son and partner. The movie skips to 1911, when Daniel and H.W. are travelling around California in a tin lizzie, buying up land leases, at bargain rates, from ranchers and farmers who are sitting on underground oceans of gold. Daniel takes advantage of their ignorance to pay them less than they deserve, and, as he addresses a group of them, Day-Lewis's performance comes into focus. He lowers his chin slightly, and his dark eyes dance with merriment as he speaks in coarse yet rounded tones, the syllables precisely articulated but with a lengthening of the vowels and final consonants that gives the talk a singing, almost caressing quality. It is the voice of dominating commercial logic—an American force of nature. Day-Lewis, at fifty, is lean and fit, and his scythe-like body cuts into the air as he works or stalks, head thrust out, across a field. Much of the time, he projects a wonderful gaiety, but his Daniel never strays from business. He ignores questions, reveals nothing, and masters every encounter with either charm or a threat. He has no wife, no friends, and no interests except for oil, his son, and booze. He drinks heavily, which exacerbates his natural distrust and competitiveness. Even when he's swimming in the Pacific, he looks dangerous. In his later years, however, Daniel disintegrates, and the iconic associations shift from Ahab to Charles Foster Kane.

Upton Sinclair was a longtime socialist, yet he understood that nothing in American life was more exhilarating than entrepreneurial energy and ruthlessness. The movie retains the novel's exuberance, but turns much darker in tone. H.W. becomes a victim of the oil rush, and Anderson drops Sinclair's moral hero, a Communist who organizes the oil workers. Sinclair was a reformer who wanted to ameliorate the harsh effects of capitalism, but Anderson apparently reasoned that social radicalism did not—and could not—stop men like Daniel Plainview. Sinclair, the garrulous, fact-bound literalist, has been superseded by a film poet with a pessimistic, even apocalyptic, streak.

But Anderson does retain Sinclair's portrait of an unctuous young man who thinks he has the word of God within him: Eli Sunday (Paul Dano), who creates, in the oil fields, the revivalist Church of the Third Revelation. Dano, who was the silent, philosophy-reading boy in "Little Miss Sunshine," has a tiny mouth and dead eyes. He looks like a mushroom on a long stem, and he talks with a humble piety that gives way, in church, to a strangled cry of ecstatic fervor. He's repulsive yet electrifying. Anderson has set up a kind of allegory of American development in which two overwhelming forces—entrepreneurial capitalism and evangelism—both operate on the border of fraudulence; together, they will build Southern California, though the two men representing them are so belligerent that they fall into combat. The movie becomes an increasingly violent (and comical) struggle in which each man humiliates the other, leading to the murderous final scene, which gushes as far over the top as one of Daniel's wells. The scene is a mistake, but I think I know why it happened. Anderson started out as an independent filmmaker, with "Hard Eight" (1996) and "Boogie Nights" (1997). In "Blood," he has taken on central American themes and established a style of prodigious grandeur. Yet some part of him must have rebelled against canonization. The last scene is a blast of defiance—or perhaps of despair. But, like almost everything else in the movie, it's astonishing.

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/cinema/2007/12/17/071217crci_cinema_denby
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Post by: theyarelegion on December 11, 2007, 05:21:22 PM
Premiere pictures (http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?query=z.i.H4sIAAAAAAAEAO29B2AcSZYlJi9tynt_SvVK1-B0oQiAYBMk2JBAEOzBiM3mkuwdaUcjKasqgcplVmVdZhZAzO2dvPfee--999577733ujudTif33_8_XGZkAWz2zkrayZ4hgKrIHz9-fB8_In7dfLn91etf49f4NX6PX_dskV3kvyb9mtD_f8FH7Tyv8_SqKMt0kqeTsqpmH6WrOl8U9Pmv-X_T82tsfH5N8zOpq6p9mdXZojGf_Vr4_-7Oj9GPX-_d6-vm9J1549fUv9ECD5r82g929rzf7zGE7Fxb_Bq_pv6OV37t7HxqOrF_4P-_Nn7ucL-L1r3pfv91qHFpv7B_4b1fl_6oF3Y84Z-_Pj7axV-_Hn8-sTA6f_Nr5yEU-ydD2bFQzjtQ3N_8Wh1CsX8ylD0Lpe5AcX8TZXILA3_82voHk2kXv_2Gpu1vbD4nmuQr8-mvGfz1a-WuK-_3XytvvI_t7792s7Jv_pr4w6DyW9kXL6fuxcupwe63xN879rd9-xtj_OtUtcdH9i_-apL7X-EvA5OZ6uHOjvf7rvc7M96vPbtaGlC_pvnj18H_m_XEDTH469fOMzcG_w_6feV_Yf_4dZsAWvjnr_3u2XM3Y94fvy39_9cvltNyPcu5YVZ7uHp_xJ__B3HDFJ4ABAAA#) from Monday night at the Ziegfeld Theatre in New York.
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Post by: Gamblour. on December 11, 2007, 06:34:29 PM
i can't wait until the first of the new york crowd gets to a computer.
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Post by: Stefen on December 11, 2007, 09:40:55 PM
I SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE WITH THEM BUT THE FRIEND I WAS STAYING WITH HAD A DEATH IN THE FAMILY! Worst day of my life.
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Post by: modage on December 11, 2007, 10:07:45 PM
Quote from: Gamblour. on December 11, 2007, 06:34:29 PM
i can't wait until the first of the new york crowd gets to a computer.

wow, there was blood!
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Post by: tpfkabi on December 11, 2007, 10:19:07 PM
Quote from: Hedwig on December 11, 2007, 04:32:57 PM
bigideas: read carefully. the gag is that your username is bigideas and the song says "don't get any big ideas they're not gonna happen" and you never get any big ideas. this is a fact proven by every single post you make.

that's the gag. he believes in the gag of using the lyrics to point out your cluelessness. he is quoting pubrick saying "i believe in this gag" because he believes in the gag that i just explained. whether or not pozer knew the song before In Rainbows has nothing to do with anything. i didn't understand why you asked that and i assumed you just didn't get it.. now i realize that is the explanation for all of the weird random senseless stuff you post: YOU DONT GET IT. :|

get it?

wrong
you stole fizzly lifting drink, you bumped into the ceiling which now must be cleaned
YOU LOSE EVERYTHING!

i understood loud and clear, it's just so played out.

remakes of remakes of remakes made for tv...
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Post by: Pubrick on December 11, 2007, 10:34:31 PM
what the fuck are you talking about? your idea was pathetic. i'm glad CMBB didn't get a premiere anywhere near you just to avoid the total embarrassment it would have been for this board. silias was bad enuff. now please stop ruining what has otherwise been a classic thread.

Quote from: Gamblour. on December 11, 2007, 06:34:29 PM
i can't wait until the first of the new york crowd gets to a computer.

as long as they don't post useless cryptic bullshit like this:

Quote from: Satcho9 on November 16, 2007, 02:01:38 AM
Just Got back from the LA screening... DDL did not seem to be amused by Judd Apatow.

nevermind:

Quote from: modage on December 11, 2007, 10:07:45 PM
wow, there was blood!

that has been said so often it's not even a spoiler anymore.
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Post by: cine on December 11, 2007, 11:00:31 PM
my mind has been blown.

goodnight everyone!
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Post by: noyes on December 11, 2007, 11:09:05 PM
a complete masterwork.
a "strong film", as I overheard a group of elderly say on my way out.
Daniel Day is something else. extremely powerful performance.

and that ending. what an ending..
i thought to myself, "now there's the PTA we know and love."
i was waiting for it and got it and it was the perfect ribbon to wrap around the present. a real fucking treat.
i don't know why but it reminded me of Kubrick, particularly The Shining.

and his direction here is astounding. every aspect of the film is very moving.
i think TWBB is Paul's magnum opus. easily.
it was so good it gave me a headache.

(edit: just reread pozer's review. and goddamn i agree with everything you wrote sir. absolutely agree.)
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Post by: JG on December 11, 2007, 11:10:00 PM
i love paul dano's chin hair. 

edit: no the serious response (cos you guys deserve one) is that its way too early for me to comment on the movie.  i'll say that i didn't have as strong an immediate reaction as i did with say no country, but i'm already cringing as i type those words. what the fuck is an immediate reaction?  was it good?  yeah, obviously.. how good? we'll see.. i don't know how i feel about labeling anything a masterpiece after just seeing it, let alone a movie i've anticipated for so long.

i really did love dano's chin hair though. 
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Post by: hedwig on December 11, 2007, 11:11:58 PM
you gotta be kidding me.
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Post by: Stefen on December 11, 2007, 11:27:46 PM
You guys are dicks. As if my expectations could not be higher.

So it's true? PTA should blow his head off because it's all downhill from here?
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Post by: samsong on December 11, 2007, 11:30:49 PM
best nap of my life.
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Post by: cine on December 11, 2007, 11:35:04 PM
Quote from: samsong on December 11, 2007, 11:30:49 PM
best nap of my life.

hahaha samsong is HILARIOUS when hes high!
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Post by: hedwig on December 11, 2007, 11:47:27 PM
i would like to take this opportunity to belatedly thank the LA crowd for the informative reports of their screening. i very much appreciated the reviews, the insights, and the photos. thanks guys!
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Post by: JG on December 11, 2007, 11:49:12 PM
in non-movie news, did all of the new york people enjoy themselves?  sorry i didn't get to say hello, i hope mod sent my regards (i told mod to send my regards).  third row wasn't so bad, but the dude to my right was.  he literally laughed at EVERY SINGLE MOMENT.  i don't know if you guys could hear him, but it was the WORST. 

as a general rule though, people don't know when to laugh. 
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Post by: noyes on December 11, 2007, 11:59:56 PM
i was in the middle to the left. and i think i heard him. he did laugh at everything.
maybe it was him that give me the headache. haha.
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Post by: bonanzataz on December 12, 2007, 12:01:56 AM
i feel the same way i felt after all his other movies. i think i liked it, but i'm not really sure. i need some time to digest it. i always go in with expectations of what his new movies are going to be and they're always so different than how i thought they'd be. that is definitely a good thing. also, if you don't want your opinion colored, you shouldn't read this, but this is NOT paul's movie. this movie belongs to ddl.
anyway, my experience with getting there... so, i drove in from (big) boston to come see the movie. i stayed at my mom's house in long island and at around 5 my sister and i leave for astoria, where the museum of the moving image is located. we get lost in queens in medium traffic. it's 6:15 and i'm thinking we're going to be late and our tickets will be given away. so we call the museum, where we're informed that no no no, the screening's not at the museum (why should it be?) it's in fucking chelsea! luckily, there's a ramp for the triboro bridge right there, it spits us out uptown, and the fdr was fucking trafficky as hell. i'm amazed that we made it cross town and got our tickets FIVE minutes before the movie was supposed to start. we had to split up, but we got good seats. she was seated next to what looked like some huge pta dorks. i was seated next to these young asshole stockbroker types still wearing their suits and typing away at their fucking blackberry's going "dude, this movie's gonna fuckin' rawk, man. dude, bra..." these guys, soon as the credits roll, back on their fucking blackerries. they seemed to really like the movie, though. the people to the right of me seemed to think i was out of my mind for even attempting to talk to them. my sister informed me afterwards that as soon as the title came up on the screen, she got her period. no joke.
where were my xixaxers? i thought i saw modage (pretty sure i was five rows directly behind you), but then i went to the bathroom after the movie was over and i couldn't find him again. didn't see anybody else, so i just left. i was really hungry and i don't think my sister really felt like sticking around, given the circumstances. maybe next time?
number one, how annoying was that moderator? he was really unprofessional and incredibly douchey. number two, how cute are pta and ddl together? number three, i pray to god that none of you asked that lame question about rysher and floyd gondolli. if you were you deserve a good swift kick in da nutz. that was really pitiful and i'm glad paul reacted to it the way he did.

great night, but next time, i should organize with you fuckers more.
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Post by: hedwig on December 12, 2007, 12:04:24 AM
Quote from: bonanzataz on December 12, 2007, 12:01:56 AM
number three, i pray to god that none of you asked that lame question about rysher and floyd gondolli. if you were you deserve a good swift kick in da nutz. that was really pitiful and i'm glad paul reacted to it the way he did.

what was the question and how did he react?
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Post by: Stefen on December 12, 2007, 12:16:45 AM
Quote from: noyes on December 11, 2007, 11:59:56 PM
i was in the middle to the left. and i think i heard him. he did laugh at everything.
maybe it was him that give me the headache. haha.

Yeah, that was Samsong.
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 12, 2007, 12:34:29 AM
Quote from: JG on December 11, 2007, 11:49:12 PMthird row wasn't so bad, but the dude to my right was.  he literally laughed at EVERY SINGLE MOMENT.  i don't know if you guys could hear him, but it was the WORST. 

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa969.ac-images.myspacecdn.com%2Fimages01%2F41%2Fm_30e3c64c813b964a44b0face662633f8.jpg&hash=9ce1efb8a334125b0ee72c0ca4a2386b875ba286)
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Post by: noyes on December 12, 2007, 12:47:23 AM
i'm off to bed.
i'm gonna have Daniel Plainview nightmares tonight.
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Post by: john on December 12, 2007, 12:52:43 AM
Quote from: JG on December 11, 2007, 11:10:00 PM
i love paul dano's chin hair. 

edit: no the serious response (cos you guys deserve one) is that its way too early for me to comment on the movie.  i'll say that i didn't have as strong an immediate reaction as i did with say no country, but i'm already cringing as i type those words. what the fuck is an immediate reaction?  was it good?  yeah, obviously.. how good? we'll see.. i don't know how i feel about labeling anything a masterpiece after just seeing it, let alone a movie i've anticipated for so long.

i really did love dano's chin hair though. 

I've heard more than a few people not have an immediate reaction to this. I like that you're not automatically calling this a masterpiece, but I'm curious way so many people seem to be a bit indecisive after this film because, like everything Anderosn's done before this, it seems like all of it's intentions and responses are meant to be felt immediately... then you breathe, then expand.

Or something to that effect.  I'm pretty tired.

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Post by: bonanzataz on December 12, 2007, 01:43:19 AM
Quote from: Hedwig on December 12, 2007, 12:04:24 AM
Quote from: bonanzataz on December 12, 2007, 12:01:56 AM
number three, i pray to god that none of you asked that lame question about rysher and floyd gondolli. if you were you deserve a good swift kick in da nutz. that was really pitiful and i'm glad paul reacted to it the way he did.

what was the question and how did he react?

guy was basically like, "you've spoken in the past about your relationship with rysher and the making of sydney and i believe that has carried through with characters like floyd gondolli and now daniel plainview. would you like to tell me how your characters from then to now progressed in the way i thought they did b/c clearly i know more about your movies than you do and my thoughts are so brilliant, give me a damned medal." it was just a really obnoxious, hollow question, and paul (who i'm apparently on a first name basis with) just seemed real fed up, both with the moderator and pta nerds in general, and he was all, "uhhh, i don't know. i mean, we are where we are. this is the movie i made" and didn't really expound. more or less just dissed that guy and didn't even attempt to answer his bullshit question.
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Post by: Pubrick on December 12, 2007, 01:48:45 AM
Quote from: JG on December 11, 2007, 11:49:12 PM
the dude to my right ... he literally laughed at EVERY SINGLE MOMENT.
Quote from: noyes on December 11, 2007, 11:59:56 PM
he did laugh at everything.

Quote from: samsong on December 11, 2007, 11:30:49 PM
best nap of my life.

if even in your sleep you still laugh hysterically, maybe it's time to put down the bong..

and this DumbRysherQuestion guy takes the cake for biggest douche bag in attendance.

its great cos it was probably cinephile.
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Post by: Bethie on December 12, 2007, 02:30:44 AM
ohh, haha. i wouldnt doubt that one. this thread. you boys. too bad you all already hung out, cause i'm planning a city trip this weekend.
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Post by: tpfkabi on December 12, 2007, 08:09:17 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on December 11, 2007, 10:34:31 PM
what the fuck are you talking about? your idea was pathetic. i'm glad CMBB didn't get a premiere anywhere near you just to avoid the total embarrassment it would have been for this board.

i was joking, hence the 'thumbs down' in my post.

i don't really expect anyone to do that.

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Post by: grand theft sparrow on December 12, 2007, 08:35:30 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on December 12, 2007, 01:48:45 AM
and this DumbRysherQuestion guy takes the cake for biggest douche bag in attendance.

its great cos it was probably cinephile.

SO close.  One row back.
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Post by: cine on December 12, 2007, 08:54:51 AM
Quote from: bonanzataz on December 12, 2007, 01:43:19 AMguy was basically like, "you've spoken in the past about your relationship with rysher and the making of sydney and i believe that has carried through with characters like floyd gondolli and now daniel plainview. would you like to tell me how your characters from then to now progressed in the way i thought they did b/c clearly i know more about your movies than you do and my thoughts are so brilliant, give me a damned medal." it was just a really obnoxious, hollow question, and paul (who i'm apparently on a first name basis with) just seemed real fed up, both with the moderator and pta nerds in general, and he was all, "uhhh, i don't know. i mean, we are where we are. this is the movie i made" and didn't really expound. more or less just dissed that guy and didn't even attempt to answer his bullshit question.

hahaha taz, the guy was like right behind me.. btw, i recorded just about the entire Q&A.  :yabbse-thumbup:
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Post by: noyes on December 12, 2007, 09:08:51 AM
Quote from: Cinephile on December 12, 2007, 08:54:51 AM
btw, i recorded just about the entire Q&A.

right on. :yabbse-thumbup:
i hoping at least someone did.
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Post by: modage on December 12, 2007, 09:21:02 AM
i woke up at 5am for about an hour just THINKING about movie. 
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Post by: noyes on December 12, 2007, 09:34:59 AM
i'm listening to the 3rd mov of Brahms's Violin Concerto in Dmj, wishing I could at least watch that final scene again.
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Post by: Pubrick on December 12, 2007, 09:40:13 AM
hey everyone, there's a whole other forum where you can say whatever you want about the ending.

otherwise, thanks for the vague hints and autobiographical tidbits, they really mean a LOT to us!

gee, this crowd is really somethin. fuck NYC. i'm going to bed.

(and waking up at 5am thinking about modage waking up at 5am thinking about ted koppel)
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Post by: ©brad on December 12, 2007, 09:49:21 AM
my head is still spinning from this movie. nothing i can say right now will do it any justice.

to those who haven't seen it yet, get ready for the ride of your cinephile life to date. and don't worry about expectations or hype or all the glowing reviews or the spoilers you accidentally stumbled upon or watching the trailer ad nauseum. this movie takes all your preconceived notions and gleefully tears them to shreds. nothing can prepare you for what you're about to experience. when it's over, you'll stumble outside in a post-cinegasm stupor trying to remember what your first name is. 

and 'taz you're so wrong. pta owns this movie. it's by far the greatest thing he has or possibly will ever do.

i thought the moderator was fine, he was just obviously very nervous having to moderate daniel day freakin' lewis (who was such a sweatheart of a guy). i was sitting in the same row as the rysher douche. don't know if y'all saw but he was holding note cards as he asked that questions. but despite him the Q&A was really wonderful. here are a few sparkling gems (for those of you that were there, please add to this list)

- when paul first screened the movie for daniel, he was adamant about them staying sober. "we're not drinking!" 3 pints of guinness later they were watching the movie.
- they edited the movie in new york city, and paul said being in the city with all the loud noise really helped them. they also had vodka and steak night every wednesday, "no sides!" he screamed. "this is what the movie should be!"
- when paul first approached johnny to do the score, he sent him the script. johnny read it and said "dude this is great. but i've never read a script before. so in my eyes catwoman might be great."
- someone asked about the inspiration for having no dialogue in the opening reel. daniel said one of the most amazing things about the script was how much you learn about this character in just 20 minutes without anyone speaking (so true). pta went on to say "i don't think these guys really even talked much down there. what would they had said? 'uhh dude that's a lot of oil. we're going to need a lot of buckets.'"
- paul talked a lot about treasure of sierra madre, prefacing it by admitting that "daniel is so fucking sick of me talk about treasure of sierra madre!"

that's all i can remember at the moment. as far as xixax screenings go, sounds like la definitely beat nyc. there was no after party. none of us ask any questions. plus you fuckers didn't save me a seat. i don't know, i expected more from us.

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Post by: Pozer on December 12, 2007, 09:56:40 AM
you aint kiddin, P.  just read all this, and... wow.  i suppose it took me a day to take the movie in, but get off the pipe NY and let's start seein some enthusiastic reactions here other than "uh, i think i liked it" or "yeppers, there was some blood right there." 

so far noyes did it the best.  i wanted to (at the very least) pour my excitement out to you guys as soon as i could.  more to you than ppl i know.  WHAT WAS THAT MOVIE DOING????!!!!!!  it's epic anderson and you guys are talkin about ppl in the theater?!  ive seen it twice and CANNOT WAIT 'til the 26th.

and what the fuck is this?  why did i have to read this?!:

Quote from: JG on December 11, 2007, 11:10:00 PM
i love paul dano's chin hair. 

edit: no the serious response (cos you guys deserve one) is that its way too early for me to comment on the movie.  i'll say that i didn't have as strong an immediate reaction as i did with say no country, but i'm already cringing as i type those words. what the fuck is an immediate reaction?  was it good?  yeah, obviously.. how good? we'll see.. i don't know how i feel about labeling anything a masterpiece after just seeing it, let alone a movie i've anticipated for so long.

i really did love dano's chin hair though. 

edit: nice job, ©brad.  modage & friends should start figuring out what do with their thoughts soon as well.  and this is the best that's been said:

Quote from: ©brad on December 12, 2007, 09:49:21 AM
and 'taz you're so wrong. pta owns this movie. it's by far the greatest thing he has or possibly will ever do.
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Post by: Stefen on December 12, 2007, 10:13:06 AM
cbrad for NYC'er of the year.
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Post by: md on December 12, 2007, 10:42:25 AM
Whoever said this isn't a PTA flick but a DDL one is 100% right.  Plainview is alive on screen, his words, his eyes, his walk are completely hypnotic.  The movie could have been 6 hours long and no fan would complain -- he is that good.  The film has a lot of master shots, not necessarily long steadicam takes, but just very long scenes played out in just one master.  This allows the audience to breathe, take in the setting and characters and live in the environment.  Visually, the film is consistent and beautifully shot, but not in a clean way.  Push ins were a little bumpy at times, scenes were naturally lit, and the camera direction introduces the west as a character itself.  The film's direction is simply dictated by Lewis's performance.  This might come off as disingenuous, but realistically it was the smartest choice PTA made. 

Spoilers

The film thematically seems to deal with alienation of one's self.  Obviously greed, oil and religion play a large role in the action during the film, but it all leads to Plainview's breakdown.  Haunted by the mysteries of his own past, he is crippled socially, forced to abandon and seek out his companions, whether it be his adopted son or his so called long lost brother.  Where PTA has dealt with father son relationships before, he extends the familial ties to examine brotherly love and the role of identity, or lack there of, to form and break bonds in devastating fashion.  Coupled with the physical lack of communication due to unforetold tragedies, PTA and DDL have created a monster in the Daniel Plainview character.  Congrats to them, it was well earned.

The religious aspect of this film will polarize audiences.  From the crowd's reactions they seemed to be eating up the religious ironies, maybe in an excuse to break the tension and madness, but more likely (imo) from a misinterpretation of the text.  Granted, these are PT Anderson's fans, so who knows what the fuck they are thinking, but realistically that laughter will likely be confusion and alienation for a mainstream audience.  This is not "for the christmas".

End Spoilers

Lastly, the Q and A sucked...it just sucked.  I knew things weren't going so hot when the moderator was asking way to many questions, mtvnews worthy questions, that really seemed to spike the opportunity of listening to PTA and DDL talk.  Granted these were very topical to a broad audience, but fuck, why so safe?  The audience didn't do much better and when the moderator decided to ask even more questions after he had opened it up to the public, I was wondering where Judd Apatow was when you really need him. 

Just from physical behavior, PTA seemed pretty nervous at times, doing this little hair brush with all one inch of his bangs. DDL seems easily offended, or rather, he is a man so confident and so fuckin good at his job, he commands respect and gets it.  Where PTA can cajole and horse around,  he seemed a little bit more self conscious in the presence of DDL. 

A few tidbits of info that was brought up in the after discussion:

-- Dylan Tichenor edited TWBB, not Tatiana _______ a.c.e.
-- They edited TWBB in NYC and ate just steak and vodka some days -- "this is how we wanted the movie to be like: steak and vodka"
-- DDL doesn't seemed to be very religious, nor does he want to do anything but act -- didn't see the dailies, wasn't initially interested in seeing a first cut PTA had sent him.




edit note: if you absolutely MUST write spoilers, please change the font colour.
edit note#2: Deleting part of this due to non-hidden spoiling... shame shame
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Post by: noyes on December 12, 2007, 10:51:52 AM
Quote from: ©MBBrad on December 12, 2007, 09:49:21 AM
- when paul first screened the movie for daniel, he was adamant about them staying sober. "we're not drinking!" 3 pints of guinness later they were watching the movie.
- they edited the movie in new york city, and paul said being in the city with all the loud noise really helped them. they also had vodka and steak night every wednesday, "no sides!" he screamed. "this is what the movie should be!"
- when paul first approached johnny to do the score, he sent him the script. johnny read it and said "dude this is great. but i've never read a script before. so in my eyes catwoman might be great."
- someone asked about the inspiration for having no dialogue in the opening reel. daniel said one of the most amazing things about the script was how much you learn about this character in just 20 minutes without anyone speaking (so true). pta went on to say "i don't think these guys really even talked much down there. what would they had said? 'uhh dude that's a lot of oil. we're going to need a lot of buckets.'"
- paul talked a lot about treasure of sierra madre, prefacing it by admitting that "daniel is so fucking sick of me talk about treasure of sierra madre!"

haha. good shit.
thanks for jogging my memory.
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Post by: Fernando on December 12, 2007, 10:57:07 AM
Yeah, good job Noyes and ©MBBrad (p will be proud haha) and shame on mod and cine, I expected great things of both.  :yabbse-undecided:
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Post by: md on December 12, 2007, 11:00:36 AM
Rysher dude and the person who jumped up like a boner (and didn't get called on)

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Post by: bonanzataz on December 12, 2007, 11:05:49 AM
Quote from: pozer on December 12, 2007, 09:56:40 AM
you aint kiddin, P.  just read all this, and... wow.  i suppose it took me a day to take the movie in, but get off the pipe NY and let's start seein some enthusiastic reactions here other than "uh, i think i liked it" or "yeppers, there was some blood right there." 

so far noyes did it the best.  i wanted to (at the very least) pour my excitement out to you guys as soon as i could.  more to you than ppl i know.  WHAT WAS THAT MOVIE DOING????!!!!!!  it's epic anderson and you guys are talkin about ppl in the theater?!  ive seen it twice and CANNOT WAIT 'til the 26th.

seriously, though? it's a really difficult movie to swallow. i can't stop thinking about it. yes, it was amazing and blah blah blah, but it really shouldn't be overhyped. it's not that kind of movie. everybody who hasn't seen the movie should stop reading this thread and everybody who has seen the movie should post in the other thread. i feel like we're doing an injustice to everybody here. fuck, i'm still in new york. i have class at 4, i gotta go.
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Post by: noyes on December 12, 2007, 11:09:38 AM
Quote from: bonanzataz on December 12, 2007, 11:05:49 AM
seriously, though? it's a really difficult movie to swallow. i can't stop thinking about it. yes, it was amazing and blah blah blah, but it really shouldn't be overhyped. it's not that kind of movie.

i can't see it any other way. my short review is particularly praising but only because i felt speechless and proud to have seen and experienced it.
it affected me strongly, in a way that resonates with the great lot of classic films i have seen in my time.
like i read somewhere else, even if you go into the movie thinking of over hype, it will, and should, prove itself as worthy.
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Post by: modage on December 12, 2007, 11:13:22 AM
did anybody julianne moore in the row in front of us?  or talking to paul in the lobby right before the q&a? 

yeah, i kinda agree with taz because i wish i had known even less about the film than i did know.  hype is a killer.  i may write a review,  i'll have to think about it.
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Post by: noyes on December 12, 2007, 11:17:15 AM
Julianne sat about three rows back and an aisle away from me.
the group of about 23 friends sitting next to me wanted to see her and i felt like letting them know where she was, but decided not to.
i felt good that they didn't get to. real good.
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on December 12, 2007, 11:39:29 AM
I don't mean to contribute to the overhype but as far as I'm concerned, Blood makes every other PTA movie seem almost like Pablo Honey.  The visual cues we associate with PTA are pretty much gone; he is in a different spot now.  I love where he is and I hope to God that he continues on this path and would probably be disappointed if he reverted back to pre-Blood style.  With Blood, he's put himself head, shoulders, and torso above his contemporaries with this film.  With the exception of Malick (comparisons to whom are to be expected but they're superficial), I can't think of another filmmaker working today who could make an epic.  When I think of the "epics" that have been made in the last few years, none of them stack up.  I remember when The English Patient came out and everyone referred to it as an epic on par with Lawrence of Arabia but I never felt that from it; it was just a long movie with lots of wide shots of deserts.  Blood is a true epic, as sprawling emotionally as it is visually and temporally, and yet it feels at times like there are ONLY two characters (similar to how PTA described Sierra Madre).   

PTA should be incredibly proud of himself.  If he said that he couldn't imagine making a better film than Magnolia, then he must never have imagined, until he started work on CMBB, that he could have made something on this scale.  And I remember on the Boogie Nights commentary, referring to himself as something like "just some kid from the Valley" and "what the fuck do I know?"  I think Rysher Douche wanted to know specifically, "How does one go from making the movies you used to make to one like this?"  And PTA probably didn't care to divulge the whys and hows because it's a personal journey that worked for him.  Getting a full answer to that question and expecting it to work for you is like reading Richard Branson's autobiography and expecting to learn the secret to becoming a billionaire.  At the end of the day, it becomes trivia.  What matters, as PTA so wonderfully put it last night, is that it's led to this and that we're lucky enough to see the astounding results of that journey.

The Oscars could regain some degree of credibility if they decided to nominate this for everything it is eligible for and then award it.  Sadly, but not TOO sadly, I'm sure it's No Country's year for everything.  But Blood drove home exactly what is missing from the Coen brothers, even in something as stripped down as No Country.  Even when the Coens get rid of the surface quirks (for lack of a better word), you still feel them in a line of dialogue here or a grunt or inflection there; you are constantly reminded that it's Coens film.  PTA has made a film that speaks for itself, that lives apart from its creator.  It immerses you completely in this world.  There isn't a trace of mockery here; it is exactly what it means to be.  There are moments of humor - I don't know about SF or LA but our audience, apart from JG's guy there, was laughing a lot at, I believe, the simple brilliance of DDL's performance; he's so good, you delight in his work even when Plainview isn't being funny - but it's all honest and earnest.

Is it PTA's best film thus far?  I'm reluctant to say yes, only because I've seen it once so far, but I'm leaning towards it.  I mentioned in another thread my friend who saw Magnolia 16 times in the theatres; I can see myself doing that with this.  I want nothing more than to bask in this film right now.
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Post by: noyes on December 12, 2007, 12:04:56 PM
Quote from: IN SPAR_ROWS on December 12, 2007, 11:39:29 AM
I don't mean to contribute to the overhype but as far as I'm concerned, Blood makes every other PTA movie seem almost like Pablo Honey.  The visual cues we associate with PTA are pretty much gone; he is in a different spot now.  I love where he is and I hope to God that he continues on this path and would probably be disappointed if he reverted back to pre-Blood style.  With Blood, he's put himself head, shoulders, and torso above his contemporaries with this film.  With the exception of Malick (comparisons to whom are to be expected but they're superficial), I can't think of another filmmaker working today who could make an epic.  When I think of the "epics" that have been made in the last few years, none of them stack up.  I remember when The English Patient came out and everyone referred to it as an epic on par with Lawrence of Arabia but I never felt that from it; it was just a long movie with lots of wide shots of deserts.  Blood is a true epic, as sprawling emotionally as it is visually and temporally, and yet it feels at times like there are ONLY two characters (similar to how PTA described Sierra Madre).   

PTA should be incredibly proud of himself.  If he said that he couldn't imagine making a better film than Magnolia, then he must never have imagined, until he started work on CMBB, that he could have made something on this scale.  And I remember on the Boogie Nights commentary, referring to himself as something like "just some kid from the Valley" and "what the fuck do I know?"  I think Rysher Douche wanted to know specifically, "How does one go from making the movies you used to make to one like this?"  And PTA probably didn't care to divulge the whys and hows because it's a personal journey that worked for him.  Getting a full answer to that question and expecting it to work for you is like reading Richard Branson's autobiography and expecting to learn the secret to becoming a billionaire.  At the end of the day, it becomes trivia.  What matters, as PTA so wonderfully put it last night, is that it's led to this and that we're lucky enough to see the astounding results of that journey.

The Oscars could regain some degree of credibility if they decided to nominate this for everything it is eligible for and then award it.  Sadly, but not TOO sadly, I'm sure it's No Country's year for everything.  But Blood drove home exactly what is missing from the Coen brothers, even in something as stripped down as No Country.  Even when the Coens get rid of the surface quirks (for lack of a better word), you still feel them in a line of dialogue here or a grunt or inflection there; you are constantly reminded that it's Coens film.  PTA has made a film that speaks for itself, that lives apart from its creator.  It immerses you completely in this world.  There isn't a trace of mockery here; it is exactly what it means to be.  There are moments of humor - I don't know about SF or LA but our audience, apart from JG's guy there, was laughing a lot at, I believe, the simple brilliance of DDL's performance; he's so good, you delight in his work even when Plainview isn't being funny - but it's all honest and earnest.

Is it PTA's best film thus far?  I'm reluctant to say yes, only because I've seen it once so far, but I'm leaning towards it.  I mentioned in another thread my friend who saw Magnolia 16 times in the theatres; I can see myself doing that with this.  I want nothing more than to bask in this film right now.


a-fucking-men.
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Post by: ©brad on December 12, 2007, 12:38:25 PM
yeah i definitely second that, to a t. 

and i too was pleasantly surprised as to how funny it was.



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Post by: Gamblour. on December 12, 2007, 12:49:33 PM
Yes, thank you!!!!
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Post by: RegularKarate on December 12, 2007, 12:59:04 PM
Mostly agreeing with Sparrow, but with (a little) less hype.

Those who said this is DDL and not PT didn't see the same movie I did.  There's NO WAY another director could have made this, even with DDL and the same screenplay.  This is VERY PT... he's just not screaming from behind the camera like he often does.

This thing has really been sitting with me well.  The more I think about it, the more I love it.

Also, MD's post should probably just be completely deleted from this thread.
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Post by: Sal on December 12, 2007, 01:13:57 PM
Way too much hype here folks. But that's expected  :yabbse-grin:
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Post by: md on December 12, 2007, 01:16:38 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate on December 12, 2007, 12:59:04 PM

Also, MD's post should probably just be completely deleted from this thread.

ahh, your best bet was to probably just ignore it...but then again I've been with this film from the start, so let me finish it.  I was waiting for someone to say "oh well you didn't see the same movie I did..." because you are completely right with your regularity.  You're holding on too tight.  You make it sound like a DDL movie directed by PT is a bad thing.  And yet, arguably, this is probably the best film he has made to date.  Let me tell you why I saw a different movie than you did.  I'm adopted.  Are you? Clearly the film sparked my interest and let me be the first adopted member on the board to say that PTA nailed it.  DDL nailed it.  I haven't been that scared, in love and that moved by a character in a long long time.  And to compliment an actor is an obvious compliment to a director.  I think PTA would want it that way.  HIYAAAAA
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Post by: RegularKarate on December 12, 2007, 01:22:09 PM
Quote from: md on December 12, 2007, 01:16:38 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate on December 12, 2007, 12:59:04 PM

Also, MD's post should probably just be completely deleted from this thread.

ahh, your best bet was to probably just ignore it...but then again I've been with this film from the start. 

I mean spoilerwise... it's in the wrong thread... I don't care that you're wrong about it being a DDL movie and not PTA
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Post by: ©brad on December 12, 2007, 01:22:40 PM
Quote from: md on December 12, 2007, 01:16:38 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate on December 12, 2007, 12:59:04 PM

Also, MD's post should probably just be completely deleted from this thread.

ahh, your best bet was to probably just ignore it...but then again I've been with this film from the start. 

your best bet would've been to post your review in the thread we specifically created for cwbb spoilerful discussion, jackass.
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Post by: idk on December 12, 2007, 01:27:45 PM
Quote from: ©MBBrad on December 12, 2007, 09:49:21 AM
to those who haven't seen it yet, get ready for the ride of your cinephile life to date. and don't worry about expectations or hype or all the glowing reviews or the spoilers you accidentally stumbled upon or watching the trailer ad nauseum. this movie takes all your preconceived notions and gleefully tears them to shreds. nothing can prepare you for what you're about to experience. when it's over, you'll stumble outside in a post-cinegasm stupor trying to remember what your first name is. 

this is probly the best stuff i could have heard
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Post by: md on December 12, 2007, 01:41:57 PM
ahhh the boards are alive....they're alive!!!
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Post by: Sleepless on December 12, 2007, 02:31:19 PM
Mmm... I'm craving vodka and steak now. Cannot wait to see this movie.
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Post by: noyes on December 12, 2007, 03:47:26 PM
what's this?
why don't i own this?
why don't i own this?


Director Paul Thomas Anderson, special guest / Dr. Annette Insdorf, moderator

Guest: Daniel Day-Lewis

Special Guest: Paul Thomas Anderson

Film: There Will Be Blood (preview, 2007, dir. Paul Thomas Anderson)

Date & Time: Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 7:15pm
   Location: Lexington Avenue at 92nd Street Directions
   Venue: Kaufmann Concert Hall Seating Chart
   Code: T-LC5FL04-01
   Price: $35.00 All Sections



(edit: hopefully some of it will be posted here: http://www.youtube.com/user/92ndStreetY
35 bucks is ridiculous though. that's 3 viewings once December 26th rows around.)
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Post by: Astrostic on December 12, 2007, 03:52:55 PM
I was sitting in the row with the Rysher guy. His question reminded me of a guy that asked a question at the INLAND EMPIRE screening at the NYFF last year who bullshitted his way through a history of what lynch has been trying to do with the lighting in his films throughout his career, which led to his question asking how lynch animated the weird light in the Demonic Rabbits scene,  Lynch said "it's a ball of flames" and that was it for the Q&A.
I disagree with anyone that says this film can't be ruined by spoilers and watching the trailer, because I had a mental checklist while watching the film, noting which parts of the trailer had played, and which ones hadn't played yet, and during the scenes that were from the trailer, I was quoting them in my head as they were being delivered. I think that will go away the next time I see it.  Also, I was expecting the quiet opening and a great, bizarre ending, so the opening wasn't as profound as it should have been for me, and when the title card for the last time period came up, I upped my quality expectancy for the rest of the film, while also being let down that there wasn't more that led up to that point.  Again, I think this will go away the next time I see it, as the good parts, expected or not, were the best parts of any film I've seen this year.  I thought the fire scene was as enthralling as the first time I saw the frogs, and some of DDL's encounters with other characters that I don't want to ruin are really really amazing.
I was disappointed with Paul Dano after all of the talk that he stayed toe-to-toe with DDL.  He didn't even come close, and the things that I was worried about based on his performance in little miss sunshine are the same things that bothered me in this film.  I don't think he handles dramatic scenes very well, it just feels like he screams when he wants to be taken seriously (though his voice was really well done and frightened me in the first church scene). 
I worry that Anderson might have tried too hard to channel Kubrick in the last scenes, as I was simultaneously sensing 2001, Eyes Wide Shut, Clockwork Orange, and Shining.  I thought it was very good, and I don't mind the influence, but i think the same people that like to note the director that PTA rips off in every single film will label this as his Kubrick film. 
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Post by: Gamblour. on December 12, 2007, 03:57:54 PM
Hm, Annette Insdorf. Fancy.
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Post by: Stefen on December 12, 2007, 04:04:50 PM
I'm not surprised to hear that CMBB has the signature PTA comedic moments we've all come to love. For making such serious films, his movies sure are funny. If edited correctly, you could make a hilarious comedy out of Boogie Nights. And the whole spontaneous friction but in Sydney? HILARIOUS. I'm confident the comedic parts in CMBB won't be out of left field like DDL slipping on a banana peel.
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Post by: maya kash on December 13, 2007, 12:55:36 AM
Quote from: Sleepless on December 12, 2007, 02:31:19 PM
Mmm... I'm craving vodka and steak now. Cannot wait to see this movie.

How long until the fan boy dooshies at cig and red vines rename their site vodka and steaks?

Showed up late to nyc screening and saw the last half which I missed in l.a.

It was alright.  Better than most films I've seen this year.  Most of us are just starved for good work and this will suffice for now I suppose.  He'll get better as he ages.  I think we are seeing that.  Let's just not get too excited, ya know.  Although stinky pink fan boys are cute when they get all fired up.
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Post by: bonanzataz on December 13, 2007, 02:02:30 AM
Quote from: maya kash on December 13, 2007, 12:55:36 AM
Although stinky pink fan boys are cute when they get all fired up.

i'll show you a stinky pink, bay-bee.

i mean...

shit.

damn girl, when was the last time you bathed?
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Post by: Satcho9 on December 13, 2007, 08:55:15 AM
No Golden Globe nomination for screenplay or director? Can we all chalk this up to the title font?
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Post by: ©brad on December 13, 2007, 09:01:20 AM
100% (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/there_will_be_blood/)
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Post by: noyes on December 13, 2007, 10:43:02 AM
Quote from: ©MBBrad on December 13, 2007, 09:01:20 AM
100% (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/there_will_be_blood/)

it will go down eventually,
but i've seen it go from 7 reviews, 10 reviews, 12 reviews, and now 13 and it's still at 100%.
that makes me feel real fucking good.
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Post by: bonanzataz on December 13, 2007, 04:23:36 PM
i'm fucking dying to see this movie again. i want to see it more than i did before i saw it. i really can't fucking wait. it just won't leave me. i watch the trailer like crazy. i only saw the trailer once before i went to go see the movie. i'm listening to the soundtrack now. the last time i felt this way about a movie was probably punch drunk love. is this all just the fanboy in me (page 82, btw) or are his movies really that good? there's a movie theater a few blocks down from me. they usually play movies like this. i hope they get it. i'm going to go every day.
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Post by: Pozer on December 13, 2007, 05:24:58 PM
you gotta love the way this film (all Anderson films actually) works.  our expectations are obviously set too high, and it's only til some time after when you begin to (for lack of a less cliched word) digest it and realize how masterful it really is.  for me it was the following morning.  and i loved it even more the 2nd time.  im beginning to think that it would relate to something like when Barry Lyndon first played to Kubrick fans back in the day.

p.s.

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Post by: JG on December 13, 2007, 05:45:13 PM
yeah, that's the best thing i can say about this movie.  i consider myself a big movie fan but i rarely watch a movie twice within a short period of time.  i almost NEVER see a movie in theaters twice (unless someone else is paying for my ticket).  my general rule is that to see if a movie is great, i let it grow in my head.  a few of my favorite movies i've only seen once. 

right as soon as this ended, i wanted to go back to the beginning.  right back.   the greatness of the first sequence was already growing in my mind in by the time the movie ended.  certain things i forgot about i keep remembering.  its growing on me, but in a strange and unfamiliar way. i don't even know what that means. 

i tried to attribute my lack of immediate response to the movie to the novelty of the whole experience.  do you know one of my legs was shaking during the movie?  i didn't know why. i felt really strange during the whole thing, and i think today in class (during one of a million daydreams i've had about blood) i figured it out.

its cos i was so CLOSE.  not close like i was in the third row, but cos something about the movie kept me super close in a way that another movie hasn't done before. 

i'm still not even committing to calling this brilliant like the rest of y'all cos i just feel so strange about it.  i need to see there will be blood again. 
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Post by: Pozer on December 13, 2007, 05:49:23 PM
Quote from: JG on December 13, 2007, 05:45:13 PM
i need to see there will be blood again. 

and pay less attention to Dano's whiskers.
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Post by: cine on December 13, 2007, 06:04:26 PM
hahaha ok something needs to be said here. JG, next time, sit where all the NORMAL xaxers sit and then you wouldn't be so fixated on an actor's WHISKERS. no wonder you were having a nervous breakdown up there, who the hell could enjoy the movie so close like that? jesus christ son!

as for the movie, i loved it, obviously, what did anyone expect.. no doubt this was his finest achievement.. and i would agree with the others that said this was his magnum opus and also his Kubrick film.

the best part of the night was the last credit of the film.
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Post by: Gamblour. on December 13, 2007, 06:08:43 PM
Quote from: bonanzataz on December 13, 2007, 04:23:36 PM
i'm fucking dying to see this movie again. i want to see it more than i did before i saw it. i really can't fucking wait.
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Post by: JG on December 13, 2007, 06:56:43 PM
Quote from: Cinephile on December 13, 2007, 06:04:26 PM
hahaha ok something needs to be said here. JG, next time, sit where all the NORMAL xaxers sit and then you wouldn't be so fixated on an actor's WHISKERS. no wonder you were having a nervous breakdown up there, who the hell could enjoy the movie so close like that? jesus christ son!

when the heck did you guys get there to get those kind of seats?  anyways its not really so bad upfront, i adjust really quick.  its never bothered me. 

i was just being smug with the chin hairs comment, but i could still justify it and say that they were there for a reason.  dano was just really well cast. 
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Post by: cine on December 13, 2007, 08:32:46 PM
sambong and i were at the front of the line, pal. sparrow then joined in, as did mod. cbrad was later helped, no thanks to sambong.
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on December 13, 2007, 10:23:52 PM
Seriously, Cine and samsong were 2nd and 3rd in line after some Phish fan who looked like a guy I know.  I felt horrible at cutting the 15 or so people I did when I joined them... for about 35 seconds (thanks mod for setting me straight). 

As a matter of fact, we saw you, JG.  I had to convince Cine that you weren't sitting so far up just to kill PTA.
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Post by: bonanzataz on December 13, 2007, 10:35:44 PM
Quote from: JG on December 13, 2007, 06:56:43 PM

when the heck did you guys get there to get those kind of seats?  anyways its not really so bad upfront, i adjust really quick.  its never bothered me. 

i got there five minutes before the movie started and i had really nice seats towards the back.
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Post by: cine on December 13, 2007, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: H.(sparro)W. on December 13, 2007, 10:23:52 PMI had to convince Cine that you weren't sitting so far up just to kill PTA.

hahaha i forgot about that.
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Post by: Pubrick on December 13, 2007, 10:58:28 PM
i just wanna be on page 82.

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Post by: B.C. Long on December 13, 2007, 11:49:42 PM
Quote from: ©MBBrad on December 13, 2007, 09:01:20 AM
100% (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/there_will_be_blood/)

First bad review. 2 out of 4 stars.

http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/film_review.asp?ID=3387

QuoteAnother film-school-in-a-box by Paul Thomas Anderson, There Will Be Blood is a triumph of vivid, overly assertive aesthetic minutiae—crammed to its oil-slicked rafters with highly stylized forms of art direction, cinematography, performance, dialogue, and music. All that's missing from it is a sense of humanity.
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Post by: noyes on December 14, 2007, 12:36:06 AM
the first stain.
i read that review earlier today before it was added.

basically, the film wasn't "human" enough for Eddie.
i don't get it. not "human" enough?
this movie isn't about humanity, it's about inhumanity (which makes it human by nature)
this obviously went over Eddie's head.

at least he acknowledged its grandiose and epic nature. i'll give him that.
he realizes it's a great film but for some reason is asking for a meal that was never cooked.
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Post by: john on December 14, 2007, 12:37:29 AM
Wow, fuck Slant Magazine.

Not because it's a negative review... but because it is a bad review. It's criticism seems to be based on the hypothetical. "If only the film would have told us this...." type of bullshit. It's lazy writing. From the presumptious comments about Anderson evoking Altman, to not being able to articulate it's points without spoiling major plot developments.

In the town I grew up in, there was a local film critic who, not only reviewed everything three weeks too late, gave poor reviews to the few god films he'd ever get around to seeing. Most notably, I remmeber his review of Magnolia - which he didn't like at all. It was a negative review based on it's running time, it's foul language, and the fact that Tom Cruise was in it but it wasn't Mission: Impossible. It was a laughable review that didn't really upset me because it was too silly to take seriously, and was probably only read by fifty people. As I read it, the one credit I gave him was, "at least he didn't bother to ruin the ending." Then I get to the last line:

"Oh yeah, at the end of the film frogs rained from the sky. I have no idea what that was all about."

this Slant review is the equivilant of that poor motherfucker's review eight years ago. The only difference is this one might be read by more than fifty people.

But hopefully not much more.

Fuck Slant Magazine.
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Post by: noyes on December 14, 2007, 12:50:43 AM
couldn't agree more.

interesting though that Nick Schager's review is a good one. and he writes for Slant as well.
why does a site need TWO reviews anyway?
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on December 14, 2007, 05:59:02 AM
Quote from: Ed GonzalezThere's a thrilling keyness to character that marks even Anderson's more exhaustive shows of technique, like the great diner scene from Boogie Nights.

I don't want to nitpick but really?  That's the "exhaustive show of technique" you use as an example?  That's probably the most reserved scene in that film!

But this sums it up nicely, though not as nicely as the last line of his Magnolia review.  The Slant critics give superlatives with their top 10 list.  This was one of his.

Quote from: Ed GonzalezBest Line: "Oh Evan, thank you for bringing that lube for my pussy. I never would've been able to handle your four-inch dick inside my pussy without that gigantic bottle of lube" (Superbad)

That wasn't even the best line of that scene.
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Post by: matt35mm on December 14, 2007, 07:17:01 AM
Quote from: H.(sparro)W. on December 14, 2007, 05:59:02 AM
Quote from: Ed GonzalezThere's a thrilling keyness to character that marks even Anderson's more exhaustive shows of technique, like the great diner scene from Boogie Nights.

I don't want to nitpick but really?  That's the "exhaustive show of technique" you use as an example?  That's probably the most reserved scene in that film!


I have the feeling that he's confusing it with maybe the first club scene.
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Post by: Fernando on December 14, 2007, 11:38:43 AM
Quote from: B.C. Long on December 13, 2007, 11:49:42 PM

First bad review. 2 out of 4 stars.

http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/film_review.asp?ID=3387

QuoteAnother film-school-in-a-box by Paul Thomas Anderson, There Will Be Blood is a triumph of vivid, overly assertive aesthetic minutiae—crammed to its oil-slicked rafters with highly stylized forms of art direction, cinematography, performance, dialogue, and music. All that's missing from it is a sense of humanity.


That's a compliment, it's the kind of review Kubrick got all his life so  :yabbse-thumbup:


Quote from: Pubrick on December 13, 2007, 10:58:28 PM
i just wanna be on page 82.

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hahahahaha, man that was hysterical.
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on December 14, 2007, 03:31:55 PM
I just remembered something from the NYC screening that I don't recall anyone else mentioning either. One of the reels was framed incorrectly so that the top of the frame was in the middle of the screen.  It was during the scene with "Why don't I own this?"  They fixed it within a minute or two, thankfully without having to stop the projector.  And it took me several days to remember that it happened.  I think with any other movie, I'd have been hopping mad and demanding money back but with Blood, I was just grateful that they fixed it and I could get back into that world.
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Post by: Sal on December 14, 2007, 05:52:13 PM
The last paragraph of that Slant review just crumbled apart. He tried comparing Eli to a character in Deadwood? A 6 year old could do better.

That said, the rest of the review is on target.
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Post by: pete on December 16, 2007, 10:07:46 PM
slant magazine balances itself out. (http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/film_review.asp?ID=3388)

MEGA FUCKING SPOILS
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Post by: cine on December 18, 2007, 11:00:40 AM
alright, it goes without saying but i'm finally venting it: i can't WAIT to see this again. i'm in major chere mill withdrawl.
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Post by: Pozer on December 18, 2007, 04:08:47 PM
Quote from: Cinephile on December 12, 2007, 08:54:51 AM
btw, i recorded just about the entire Q&A.  :yabbse-thumbup:

whad up wit dis?
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 19, 2007, 10:20:01 AM
P.T. Anderson's There Will Be Blood
Source: Edward Douglas; ComingSoon

**SPOILERS ALERT**

P. T. Anderson's fifth movie There Will Be Blood has very little in common with his previous four in that there's very little deliberate humor in its exploration of the early days of the oil drilling business in California as told through the rise and fall of oilman Daniel Plainview (Daniel Day-Lewis), whose oil drilling business is thriving until he arrives at the ultra-religious town of Little Boston and finds himself in conflict with their young evangelical minister Eli Sunday (Paul Dano). Even as the town proves to be a bonanza of oil profits, Plainview's personal life takes a downturn as the important things in his life like family succumb to his greed and lust to find oil.

Anderson and actors Daniel Day-Lewis and Paul Dano held a press conference in New York City to talk about the movie that was inspired by Upton Sinclair's novel "Oil!" and ComingSoon.net was there to take notes.

ComingSoon.net: What was the inspiration and impetus for adapting the Upton Sinclair novel into a movie and for Daniel, this movie was written with you in mind, so what was the collaboration like and what was the challenge to play such a miserable pr*ck in this movie?

Daniel Day-Lewis: No challenge. (laughter)

P.T. Anderson: I think the arc goes like that (does a downwards sweeping gesture with arm) goes from miserable to more miserable hopefully. The inspiration for the movie first and foremost comes from the book. I'd been trying to write something, anything, just to get something written. I had a story that wasn't really working that was about two fighting families and it didn't really have anything, just that premise. When I read the book, there were so many ready-made scenes and the great venue of the oilfields. Those were the obvious things that seemed worth making a film about, and the desire to work with Daniel certainly, once that presented itself as a possibility, certainly drove the engine for me to write it and to finish it and to get it to him.

Day-Lewis: I never really saw him as a miserable pr*ck, but I suppose... I don't know what the challenge is. The challenge, I dare say, is the same as it always is, which is to try and discover a life that isn't your own. Plainview, as he came to me in Paul's beautiful script, was a man whose life I didn't understand at all. It was a life that was completely mysterious to me and that unleashed a fatal curiosity, which I had no choice but to pursue.

CS: Do you see him as a miserable person?

Day-Lewis: He's just a fellow trying to make a living.

CS: Does he descend into madness at the end or is that anger and hostility there from the very beginning?

Day-Lewis: Oh, I'm not really the best person to say this, but I believe you see the seeds of the man you meet at the end in the man you meet at the beginning but to me, he's undergoing a transformation. It never occurred to me that his journey was a short one.

CS: Daniel Plainview has a very distinct dialect you establish and then sustain through the film. Can you talk about creating that?

Anderson: Well, the first speech in the movie is taken directly from the Upton Sinclair book—"Ladies and gentlemen, I've traveled over half our state..." It was just incredibly simple; very direct. I can remember thinking, "Just keep it simple, keep the language simple." I couldn't imagine these guys using more words than they had to use, anybody in this venue, which became a nice way to attack it. Ideally it gets to the point when it's just going well, you write something and wake up the next morning and say "God, who wrote that? That's pretty good."

CS: Was casting Paul as Eli related to his previous work with Daniel in "The Ballad of Jack and Rose"?

Anderson: It was, because the first time I'd seen Paul was in "The Ballad of Jack and Rose" and called Rebecca Miller to tell her how much I loved the film, and tell Daniel, but really, the first question in my mind was "Who the hell was that?" 'cause I thought he was so terrific. I think I had just finished writing the script so I knew I had to find somebody to play the part. I originally insanely thought it should be a 12 or 13-year-old boy and then that seemed ridiculous, and then I saw Paul and thought he would be great. He certainly got a good recommendation from Rebecca and from Daniel. (At this point, Daniel covers his ears.) They said (laughs)... nothing too great. (laughter) I mean, I had to meet Paul for myself to know, and it was a pretty clear that he is a terrific young actor, and we're just very lucky.

CS: Originally Paul was only supposed to play the role of Paul Sunday, and then it was expanded for him to play Eli as well. Could you talk about that decision?

Anderson: We had an actor, and it didn't really work, out, and we had Paul, and he was in a small part. We though, "God, why is he in such a small part?" And then, better yet, maybe because of my obsession with "East of Eden," I thought, "Well, they've got to be twins, right?" I had actually been talking to a friend at the moment that all this was happening, who was telling me about his twin brother. I thought it was too good to pass up.

CS: In the Times profile on Daniel, it was mentioned that the other actor who was going to play Eli was intimidated by Daniel and that Paul originally auditioned to play Eli.

Anderson: Yes, he did, and I was too dumb to give him the part.

Day-Lewis: I'm probably not the right person to speak about it anyhow. I was quite surprised when I read that comment. Whatever the problem was during that time with that particular person, I absolutely don't believe that it was because he was intimidated by me. I happen to believe that; I hope I'm right.

CS: And what was your reaction when you found out you would be playing both parts, Paul?

Dano: [Deadpan] Double the pay. (laughter) I didn't have a lot of time to think about things like that. I certainly didn't relish the idea of getting a bigger part in this film because of trying to throw myself into the character, and that was the priority. I have to say in retrospect, yeah, it was wonderful to get to spend some more time in Texas with these guys here. I feel very lucky, and hopefully I was able to contribute to it in so short amount of time. That was my main concern, to try and make a contribution without a lot of time to prepare.

CS: Paul, what research did you do for your role?

Paul Dano: It first started with just trying to learn a little bit about the time period. I think whenever you're doing a period piece that's important, but especially, to me, sharing a lot of scenes with Daniel and how well he immerses himself within the period. I've seen him working, and it was something that I really wanted to pay attention to. I looked up some stuff about evangelical preaches, but I sort of had a privilege with Eli. He didn't have radio or television, and I don't think he had the opportunity to see a tremendous amount of preachers, except when somebody traveled through his town or a town close by. He didn't have a lot of books either, so I think he sort of made himself up once he found what his gifts and his savviness and charisma could bring him. I think that slowly took over in him, and through the words of the Bible and loving to hear himself talk, he found some way to be spiritually seductive via himself. As an actor, I don't know if it was an excuse on my behalf, but it was a way for me to run with the material that Paul gave me and not have to base it on one person or a group of people in particular, and sort of try to run with whatever instincts I had for the character.

CS: Daniel, this role was incredibly physical, so can you talk about preparing to drill for oil and Paul, what would you not have him do in terms of the dangers of the oil drilling situations?

Anderson: Ha, nothing. He's required to do it all.

Day-Lewis: Well, the thing about those lads... when you discover Plainview at the beginning, he's almost learning himself how to do it. Anyone that can swing a pick ax or a sledge, which anyone can do, can dig a hole in the ground. In terms of the physical preparation, there wasn't really anything except to stay fit and then start digging holes. They kind of made it up as they went along and that was true, even as you see in the story. Before even cable or rotary drilling became common use, they began by scooping this muck as erupted naturally out of earth, scooping it up in saucepans and buckets. That was the first way of gathering oil and then someone had the bright idea of trying to set up an A-frame and plunge the equipment of a telegraph pole down into ground, see if that will help it along. (chuckles) It was incredibly primitive. As the story progresses, then there's something to learn about because the drilling procedure is a fairly complicated thing, but at the beginning it's sheer blood and sweat really just to scoop the stuff up.

CS: What were you going for in terms of the impact of oil lust on human behavior and how it reflects on current affairs, and why did you choose a different title from the book?

Anderson: Well, we changed the title because I think at the end of the day, there's not enough of the book probably left to feel it's a proper adaptation of the book. Probably selfishly I wrote the title down and it looked really good and I thought, "We should call the film that." And in terms of the U.S. liking oil and all that, well I grew up in California and there's a lot of oil out there. I don't live that far from Bakersfield, which is where the initial discoveries of oil were in California and still are pumping away. I suppose I've always wondered what the stuff is, how we get it out of the ground, why we like it so much and what the story was. The story of oil in California in particular and probably in this country was really well told in the first couple hundred pages of the Upton Sinclair book. He started to write the book in the '20s when he went with his wife to the Signal Hill area, which is down near Long Beach, which was essentially set up to be vacation homes overlooking Long Beach Bay. What happened was that somebody decided that instead of building a vacation home, they decided to drill for oil and they struck oil, so this community went absolutely mad. His wife owned a plot of land, and they took a ride down there. This community was trying to get a lease together, so they were trying to meet independent prospectors to see if they could get together and potentially get a bigger pie made up, but when he witnessed this group trying to get this lease together, he said in his words that he witnessed "human greed laid bare." He just saw these people go absolutely crazy, and he knew what he wanted to write about and that's what started him on the road of that story. We just picked up where he left off I supposed. There was a lot of other things that go on in the book. It goes to Hollywood, it goes to Washington D.C., it takes care of the Teapot Dome Scandal, the Russian Revolution, all these massive things that we couldn't do, but at the core of the story was the drive and ambition, not only from this independent oil man, but also from the people he was supposedly getting the better of in leasing their land.

CS: How conscious were you about the socio-political commentary that you were putting into the characters and how conscious of the subtext were the actors?

Anderson: Aware of it enough to know that if we indulged too much in it or let that stuff rise to the top, that it could get kinda murky. It's a slippery slope when you start thinking about something other than just a good battle between two guys that see each other for what they are, just trying to sort of work from that first and foremost. You let everything else that is there to fall in place behind it. It would be horrible to make a political film or anything like that, but just to tell a nasty story and let the rest take care of itself.

Paul Dano: No, I think for me I would leave any of that for Paul to bring out in the film if that's what he wanted, but I certainly didn't look it as anything more than a story to try and tell. I think it would have been dangerous for me to have worried about trying to bring out some sort of political theme or something other than being truthful to the character.

CS: Can you talk about the three amazing confrontation scenes between the two men, how you prepared for them, how they were shot in terms of doing multiple takes or not, etc.?

Anderson: Yeah, well I'd say that first off was the reservoir and Daniel takes the first swing.

Day-Lewis: That was a very difficult day, wasn't it?

Anderson: Horrible.

Day-Lewis: Things weren't going right. People were doing all kinds of things to try and fix the pipe which needed to be working in the background filling the reservoir, so we lost a day in this place, which we couldn't afford to do since time was very tight and essentially, out of necessity, often something interesting is born, and Paul set up a tracking shot which covered the whole scene. We didn't know if we could make it work, because obviously with the hits, you have to get each angle right and in a moving shot that covers the whole scenes, the chances of getting everything right in that shot are pretty slim. So we sort of attacked it like that and there was nothing you could do to get ready for that expect to try it and try it again.

Anderson: And the next day, we got to shoot the baptism scene, so Paul got to have his way, and that was a very similar thing with one exception. We decided that we would shoot everything up until... we didn't rehearse it. We just knew where they would stand and had a couple cameras rolling, and we figured that we would just get the scene before the slapping stars, we would get that, and then we would start slapping, but Paul either forgot or decided to take his own initiative and began to slap Daniel across the face. (laughter)

CS: What about the last scene?

Anderson: That's a fog. That's two days of fog in a bowling alley. I don't remember quite exactly... honestly. (laughter) I don't remember.

Day-Lewis: The last one? Again, we shot that scene in the Duhaney Mansion and Sinclair loosely based the character in his book "Oil!" on the life of Duhaney, so by a second removed, there was also a connection there. And this was this huge, great gloomy pile was the pyramid that he built to himself with the wealth he accumulated and it's overseen by the Duhahey Trust and they employ a very large army of people in extremely neat uniforms to watch every goddammed move that you make in the place. I don't know what they thought we were doing in there but they seemed quite disturbed by the whole thing. We had already entered into a realm where we didn't know one thing from another, but it was very tight. Again, we had very little time to play with, and yeah, it was a fog.

CS: What about Dillon Freasier, the boy who plays Daniel's son H.W.? How did you find him and what was it like working with him?

Anderson: Cassandra Kulukundis was the casting director. We did start out in Los Angeles and New York reading young men with headshots and that kind of thing. We thought we needed a boy from Texas who knew how to shoot shotguns and live in that world. She asked around schools, she said, "I'm looking for a man in a young boy's body," and one principal said "I have just the boy." And it was Dillon. She didn't really have him read scenes or anything like that. We talked with him and it was clear he was a very special young man. He took to it really well. We're all so fond of him. He'd never been on a movie set, he'd never seen movie cameras, nothing like that, but he loved it. I remember having the first costume fitting. You would think that most 10-year-old boys would not looking forward to wearing britches, but the second he saw them, he said "I've always wanted to wear britches."

Day-Lewis: I agree with everything that Paul said about him. I felt very close to Dillon, I'm very fond of him. He's a cowboy, by the way. His father is a rancher. He's got his rodeo buckles, he's won numerous events, he does round-ups, he's the real thing. He has this strange maturity that's very unusual—something that a lot of kids his age might have in common in that part of the world. He's really used to hard work. He's got hands—you could knock out a horse with those hands. He's the most delightful person. He had that curiosity, as Paul was saying. Everything that was going on, every department, he was just constantly drinking in all this new information with such excitement. As we approached the moment when we were going to start shooting, I started to worry a little bit. We were quite close, we had a nice friendship, and I thought, "Man, how's he going to feel when I start treating him harshly?" So I thought I'd better have a conversation with him about that, so I kind of sat him down and I created this sort of portentous atmosphere. I said, "Dillon, you know how I feel about you. There are going to be moments in the next months to come when I'm going to speak harshly to you, I'm not going to treat you nicely. I hope you understand that I love you and so on..." And he looked at me like I was insane, like "Of course I know that." He was just one step ahead of us, pretty much most of the time.

Anderson: He just needed the go-ahead every once in a while. He had to struggle with Ciaran and he had to slap Daniel. He didn't like to do it initially.

Day-Lewis: He developed a taste for it though. (laughter)

Anderson: But once we said, "Yeah, you have to hit him across the face as hard as you can, it's okay." And his mom said, "You'd better do it, Dillon. They told you to do it, you can do it, it's OK."

Day-Lewis: His mom just raised him so beautifully. She no longer is, but at the time his mom was a state trooper. She wanted to do things right and she thought she'd better check out this bunch of people that were going to be taking care of her son. She said, "I'll go rent a movie that fellow did," and she went and got "Gangs of New York." She was absolutely appalled. (laughter) She thought she was releasing her dear child into the hands of a monster. There was a flurry of phone calls, and somebody sent a copy of "The Age of Innocence" to her. Apparently that did the trick.

CS: It would seem like Daniel's relationship with his son is what defines whether his character can be considered a complete monster or not. How did you understand his relationship with the boy?

Anderson: I think his relationship to the boy—I wish Daniel could have done better with illness, but the trouble that he has facing up to what happens to the boy. It would have been nice if he could have done better with that.

Day-Lewis: You know, there's a real connection between those two. It's not pure exploitation, even though Daniel kind of taunts him later on, the idea of a cute face to buy land. Even earlier on there's a sort of joke made of it. It definitely goes deeper than that. The problem is that Plainview has no understanding of what the responsibilities of a parent are. His son is preternaturally responsible in a way that a genuine partner would be for the day-to-day running of his business. From Plainview's point of view anything that interferes with the running of a business is something that he has to take care of, for his son's sake as well. He doesn't know how to deal with this damaged creature. He's a child—he doesn't know how to be a father to him. He's a friend and a partner, but he doesn't know how to take care of him as a father. He has no means of knowing that.

CS: The score was almost a character unto itself, so can you talk about how that came about?

Anderson: It sort of begins and ends with Jonny Greenwood. I suppose the good idea that I had [was] to ask him to do it. He had a couple pieces that existed before that he'd written for orchestra. He's better known for his day job; he's in a band called Radiohead, and he had written a few orchestral pieces that I heard and thought were terrific. I had known him for a few years and asked him to do it, and showed him the film. He said "Okay, great." I gave him a copy of the movie, and about three weeks later, he came back with two hours of music. I have no idea how or when he did it, but he did it. It's kind of amazing. I can't say that I did any real guiding or had any real contribution to it. I just took what he gave us and found the right places for it. A couple of things that he'd written on piano that we then took to an orchestra, a couple things that he'd written for string quartet that just went straight into the film. We did that over the course of a couple months. It was a great experience working with him.

Day-Lewis: Paul recorded the music at Abbey Road in London. The astonishing thing about Jonny is that he didn't study composition. I think he was a violinist, and then he went into the band and the band became his life, but somehow, along the way, he taught himself composition. He is the resident composer for the BBC Symphony Orchestra. He scored the whole thing himself. I don't know how he did it.

CS: You thanked Robert Altman in the credits, so did his film "McCabe and Mrs. Miller" influence the look and feel of this movie?

Anderson: Well every one of Robert's films has been an inspiration to me. I saw his films when I was starting out, and "McCabe and Mrs. Miller" was certainly one them, "Nashville" everything. All of them. We became pretty close in the last few years of his life. I got the job of sitting next to him on "A Prairie Home Companion" for insurance reasons. My partner [Maya Rudolph] was in the film, and she was pregnant at the time. Just in case anything happened with Bob, I was hired to sit there next to him. I can't tell you what I took from it. Obviously it was a privilege and an honor and all that, but just such an amazing good time for 30 days to sit next to him. Bob was very good at relaxing; he was a very relaxed director. I don't know if he always was like that. I think he might have been. I would find myself getting uptight about things, and he just sort of looked at me like "What are you worried about? It's all going to be fine." Maybe I learned that from him, to relax a little bit more. He died while we were cutting ["There Will Be Blood"]. I was planning to show it to him. I was in Ireland with Daniel working on the film, and I was planning to come back and show it to him and never got a chance to. That's really a drag that he didn't get to see it, so yeah, we dedicated the film to him.

There Will Be Blood opens in New York and Los Angeles on Wednesday, December 26.
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 19, 2007, 10:36:29 AM
Prospectors Anderson and Day-Lewis strike black gold
Source: Los Angeles Times

PAUL THOMAS ANDERSON is one of a handful of auteurs who is actively evolving the cinematic language. Known for his nerve-jangling urban stories (set usually in the San Fernando Valley), his new film, "There Will Be Blood," is inspired by "Oil!," an Upton Sinclair novel about the burgeoning petroleum industry in turn-of-the-century California. To star in his first period piece, a dark, propulsive character study, Anderson landed Daniel Day-Lewis.

In a suite at the Four Seasons hotel in Beverly Hills to talk about the movie, which opens in Los Angeles on Dec. 26, the two notoriously media-shy artists are disarmingly loose and engaging. Day-Lewis, with shaggy, graying hair, golden hoops in his ears and tattoos covering his right arm, liberally interjects mischievous remarks into the conversation. Anderson is unshaven and rumpled, and radiates the youthful energy of someone who is still very much in love with film.

So how did you two get together to make this movie?

Anderson: I knew through the grapevine that Daniel had liked "Punch-Drunk Love" a lot, so I felt confident enough to ask him to read the script I was writing. It worked out really nicely just because our lives were at a good spot. He was ready to work and I was in New York at the same time he was in New York. So, long afternoon walks and really good breakfasts.

Day-Lewis: We really tucked away some ham and eggs.

Anderson: You get to learn a lot about somebody you might want to work with from what they order for breakfast.

Day-Lewis: Yeah, yeah. What's that appetite like? [cocking an eyebrow] And do they resist the appetite? Are they really very hungry but they order the fruit plate?

So did you craft the character of Plainview with Daniel in mind?

Anderson: Well, yeah, certainly hoping that it would be a possibility. It didn't start that way. The character in the book had its own personality and then I sort of added to that along the way. At whatever point, I thought, if there would ever be a great time to ask Daniel to do something, this would probably be it. Whether or not he was going to do it, that kind of gave me the confidence to write something that only he's capable of doing. Which was great, because you think, there's only one person who can really do this, one person mad enough to say this stuff. [Laughter]

Is it true you started the idea for the script before you came across "Oil!"?

Anderson: I'm always writing and have things lying around, like wolf dust. You know the old phrase, when you don't have anything in the kitchen but you've got lots of little bits and pieces and leftovers, things in the can, and you get a meal together out of that. It's "wolf dust," so when the wolf comes knocking, you'll have at least enough to keep him away from the door. I felt like I had nothing solid to offer up but enough things that I'd written down that maybe matched up with what I saw in "Oil!" and could pair up with it.

I wonder why a project with you two attached would have trouble getting financed, as this did, apart from the lack of car crashes and women being tortured.

Day-Lewis: Probably someone somewhere said, "If ever we let those two . . . get together, there's going to be trouble."

Anderson: Yeah, that's probably what they said.

Day-Lewis: It's a bit like crunching numbers to work out whether an actor or a director is going to be a payoff. They do the same thing with all the ingredients, apparently, of any given project. And this is a period film, which apparently nobody wants to go see; there are no girls in it . . .

Anderson: Length . . . [The film clocks in at 2 hours, 37 minutes.]

Day-Lewis: And it's a film without a perceivable happy ending. Although I think it's quite happy.

Anderson: Do you remember when we were sitting at dinner and we were kind of moping about and there was a long pause and I said, "What's the movie you were in that made the most money?" And you said, "Don't . . . blame it on me!"

Back to the adaptation, if you can call it that, because your version bears so little resemblance to the book. Pretty much everything is different but the setting. The familial relationships, the plot, even the names are different. So what about that text was inspiring to you?

Anderson: So many things. I mean, you can say, 'Why did you fall in love with your wife?' 'Well, she's beautiful, she's got a great sense of humor,' but I don't feel like I've said anything. I had enough books and a passing interest in that time and the oil fields of California. But this was a book that had a substantial story. Whether or not we could tell all of that story, it was enough to really get started and to piggyback on the language that was started in the book. It's a great feeling to take a scene from the book, we're talking about the real estate office, which is quite a long scene and detailed in terms of the operation of how Plainview is going to gobble up a bunch of land. We very slowly shrunk it down and shrunk it down and shrunk it down to what we needed. It was very simple. "I have just bought the Sunday ranch. Where's the map?" But it's a great feeling to know what the bigger version of that scene is for Daniel and for me; you're armed with as much information as you can.

The way you pared that scene down makes Plainview seem like the model of efficiency: "Here are the pretenses under which I'm going to buy land, and here's what I really want."

Day-Lewis: It kills two birds with one stone. It gives you Plainview's efficiency, it gives you an incredible sense of his momentum; but it also gives the film momentum at a time when it needs to be really going forward. You need to feel that once Plainview goes into action, everything is in his slipstream, everyone is just struggling to catch up with the man. He sees where the scam is, where dirty deeds have to be done and just gets on with it.

When I think of the Sinclair book, I think of a socialist diatribe about the relationship between labor and management. But that's not present in your film. You grab the Eli story and go in a totally different direction. Was that because the Eli story was more dramatic for you, or were you not interested in that (rather timely) labor-management dynamic?

Anderson: I was interested in it but certainly not as interested as I was in the juicier stuff. And while it might be interesting to read, it seemed impossible to film. I didn't know how to film that kind of struggle without it being overly talky.

Were you consciously trying to get away from things you'd done before? It feels so different from your other films. Different collaborators, a period piece . . .

Anderson: Definitely. But I remember feeling that way when I made "Punch-Drunk Love." "Whatever I did last time, I don't want to do that again." Desperate to not feel comfortable or to not repeat yourself. Probably secretly only happy if completely terrified. . . . But the thrill of working with new people too, I mean, to work with Daniel and Jack Fisk, a production designer I hadn't worked with before, it's great. You start out being so polite with your new collaborators, don't you?

Day-Lewis: Mmm, yeah, yeah.

Anderson: And then it's great when you get to that point where you're not polite anymore. You're all savages.
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Post by: Pubrick on December 19, 2007, 10:47:09 AM
i'm picking it up, ". . ." seems to mean some kind of swear word, and i think "Manjula" means some kind of spaceship.

Quote from: MacGuffin on December 19, 2007, 10:36:29 AM
Anderson: .. You're all savages.

haha he's secretly endorsing PSH right in front of his new buddy.
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 19, 2007, 07:14:50 PM
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Daniel Day-Lewis Returns to the Screen
Source: AP

Daniel Day-Lewis never shows up in gossip mags, hardly ever appears on talk shows and rarely grants interviews. The elusive actor can only be seen on screen and that's infrequent, too.

He's made just four films in the past decade. Each time, he steeps himself in research and often remains in character throughout months of shooting. His performances win awards and critical praise.

Then Day-Lewis disappears.

The enigmatic 50-year-old actor is back in the spotlight with "There Will Be Blood," a film that follows oil prospector Daniel Plainview as he grows his business and loses his mind in turn-of-the-20th-century California. The performance is generating awards buzz, earning Day-Lewis a Golden Globe nomination and accolades from Los Angeles and New York critics groups.

With a thick mustache, a stiffened gait and a gruff, authoritative voice, the character bears no resemblance to the lanky, handsome hipster sitting in a suite at the swanky Bel Air Hotel talking about the film. Day-Lewis spent two years preparing for the part, but when asked how he did it, he seems sincerely at a loss.

"I'm not trying to be coy, but I really don't know," he said, adding that he pored over scores of letters and photographs from the period. "The rest is the long, slow simmering of an untold mixture of influences until they begin to reveal some kind of life to you."

Once he gets inside a character, he stays there and is reluctant to leave.

"It's a testament to his willpower and his perseverance and level of commitment to be able to do that," said co-star Paul Dano.

But when filming wraps, it can be difficult for Day-Lewis to extract himself from such deep immersion, perhaps one reason for his intervals between films.

"There's no part of you, really, that possibly wishes to let go of it," he said. "It doesn't seem to make sense to have so elaborately constructed this illusion for yourself to then dispel it in a moment."

He found it toughest to shed the characters he played in "The Ballad of Jack and Rose," "My Left Foot" and "The Name of the Father" a dying dad, a palsy-stricken Christy Brown (for which he won an Academy Award) and falsely accused Irishman Gerry Conlon, respectively as well as his latest part.

"As alarming as it might seem to say it, Plainview, he was in no hurry to go home," Day-Lewis said.

Another reason for his absences from the screen has to do with his personal creative rhythm, which he playfully described as "a slothful one." From the time he decided on an acting career a pursuit he first fell for at age 12 he knew he'd have to proceed at a slower pace than most.

"I feel as if the periods when I'm not working are very closely related to the periods when I am working. There is no division between those two lives," he said. "And I feel misrepresented because I keep quiet when I'm not working, (and) on the occasions when I once again step into a public arena, some people tend to see that there's almost a kind of bipolar existence going on. But of course for me they're both essential to each other."

How he spends his off time isn't something he likes to share: "I'm always a little reluctant to talk about that, and maybe that's how I manage to create the apparent rift between one world and the other."

A father of two with his wife, screenwriter-director Rebecca Miller, Day-Lewis does reveal that he "loves motorbikes," enjoys woodworking and has "a fascination for shoes, for the construction of shoes, which is a very complex and beautiful process." (He famously took time off to work as a cobbler in Florence, Italy, before taking on the wonderfully villainous part of Bill the Butcher in "Gangs of New York.")

He's fully aware of the luxury it is to work at the pace that best suits him, "bearing in mind that the experience of most actors is that they go through lengthy, soul-destroying periods of unemployment," he said. He pays tribute to the privilege "by doing the work, by not doing it in a thoughtless way."

He takes on a film project only when he's struck by what he characterizes as an unshakable feeling of inevitability.

After reading director Paul Thomas Anderson's script for "There Will Be Blood," Day-Lewis "allowed myself the illusion, as I infrequently do, that this thing could not be avoided, that it was something that I had no option but to be a part of in some way."

That was good news for Anderson, who knew "very early in the writing" that he wanted Day-Lewis to play Plainview.

Why?

"He's the best actor in the world," said the director. "That's the short and sweet answer."

Both Anderson and Dano who also appeared in "The Ballad of Jack and Rose" (which Miller wrote and directed) said working with Day-Lewis improved their game.

"It feels like I played tennis with Roger Federer," Anderson said.

For Day-Lewis, now comes the least favorite part of the job: "the whole paraphernalia that surrounds it." That includes giving interviews, avoiding personal questions and deflecting awards talk.

"It seems like you on a kind of crusade of self-promotion," he said with smiling eyes, "and you can't explain that I wouldn't do this if it wasn't that I had to."

So what's next for the mysterious movie star?

"Rebecca's going to make a film and I might beg for a job on the construction crew and maybe swing a hammer for awhile," he said. "That's always a good antidote to talking about yourself for weeks on end."
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Post by: idk on December 20, 2007, 01:20:06 PM
Charlie Rose interview with PTA & DDL airs Friday December 21, link can be found here (http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/12/21/1/a-discussion-about-the-film-there-will-be-blood)
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 20, 2007, 04:48:44 PM
Oil, Oil Everywhere! Paul Thomas Anderson Goes to the Old West for a Gusher Evoking New Greed
There Will Be Blood, starring Daniel Day-Lewis as an oil tycoon, soberly examines the origins of our nation's corruption. Where'd the flying frogs go?

by Andrew Sarris; The New York Observer.

THERE WILL BE BLOOD
Running Time 158 minutes
Written and directed by Paul Thomas Anderson
Starring Daniel Day-Lewis, Paul Dano


**SPOILERS**

Paul Thomas Anderson's There Will Be Blood, from his own screenplay, is based on the 1927 novel Oil! by Upton Sinclair, the muckraking writer and anti-capitalist activist. The film's narrative seems very slow getting started as it examines in painstaking detail the primitive and dangerous processes, first of silver mining in Silver City, N.M., and then of oil extraction near the end of the 19th century, in Little Boston, a rural enclave near what is now Los Angeles.

The film's protagonist, Daniel Day-Lewis's Daniel Plainview, makes a hardscrabble living as a silver miner until a down-at-the-heels young man from California, Paul Dano's Paul Sunday, makes him an offer. For $500, Sunday will tell Plainview the location of his family's goat ranch in California, where the oil leaks out of the ground. Plainview demonstrates right from the outset that he is a tough, wily, always suspicious negotiator as he explains to Sunday that there are many places where oil rises to the surface, but very few with much oil underneath. Still, he accepts the deal, and drives off to New Boston in one of the first just-invented automobiles, which are going to revolutionize the oil industry until oil becomes the global monstrosity that plagues our foreign policy to this day.

After all, why else would two-time Oscar-nominee Mr. Anderson undertake to adapt an 80-year-old little-known Sinclair novel for a high-budget production starring Oscar winner Mr. Day-Lewis? His character is said to be based on the real-life Edward Doheny, an oil tycoon of the period. Yet very little in the movie is revealed about Plainview's earlier life, which has left him with a little son, H.W. (Dillon Freasier). His past life is something Plainview refuses to talk about, and no one in the film, least of all the women, ever gets close enough to him to break his vow of secrecy. Indeed, throughout, Plainview remains a fascinating, often inscrutable presence, but ultimately a morally repulsive figure. Is it capitalism or oil or the American Way of Life that makes him so reprehensible? Again, Mr. Anderson gives us few clues about the inner man, and only Mr. Day-Lewis' resourcefulness as an actor keeps us intrigued about his possible motives, or is "motive" too old-fashioned a word for this brave new world?

Oil, with the environmental havoc it wreaks on the soil and on communities, is not the only villain of the piece. Revivalist religion takes a few whacks as well, as by the end the antics of Paul Sunday's twin brother, Eli (also played by Paul Dano), gets more than a few laughs. Eli makes it a condition of Plainview's purchase of his father's ranch that a Baptist church be built on the property with some of the oil profits. Plainview cynically agrees to Eli's overbearing importuning, but one senses from the beginning a final settling of accounts between these two supreme egotists.

Oh, yes, along the way, Plainview's son is rendered deaf by an accident near the oil derrick, and Plainview blithely abandons the now handicapped child on a departing train. They are eventually but bitterly reunited, and the emotional scars linger through both their lives.

There are a few seemingly decent people Plainview encounters along his rugged path of ruthless self-enhancement, but they serve only to illuminate his capacity for a mysterious malignancy. Not exactly mysterious, for at one point he comes right out and says that he has never liked people.

As it happens, I have enjoyed all of Mr. Anderson's previous four films—Hard Eight (1996), Boogie Nights (1997), Magnolia (1999) and Punch-Drunk Love (2002). I have always appreciated, particularly, the flair he showed in his casting, and in his ability to extract all the eccentricities of his characters from the performers playing them. But I have never before seen an Anderson film with a lead character exuding so few sympathetic vibes to the audience, even when the atmosphere was unpleasant and even unsavory.

Nonetheless, There Will Be Blood remains an impressive achievement in its confident expertness in rendering the simulated realities of a bygone time and place, largely with an inspired use of regional amateur actors and extras with all the right moves and sounds. In this moviegoing year of unrestrained morbidity and malfeasance, There Will Be Blood fits in very nicely with all the prevailing paranoia on and off the screen.
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 20, 2007, 08:08:27 PM
John C. Reilly Was Almost Out For Blood
By Katey Rich; Cinema Blend

John C. Reilly is making a splash this weekend with his starring role in Walk Hard, but he was almost part of another, completely different upcoming release: Paul Thomas Anderson's There Will Be Blood. During a press conference for Walk Hard earlier this week Reilly admitted he was sorry not to be part of the production, but he actually talked Anderson out of casting him.

"Paul and I talked a lot about it," said Reilly, who calls Anderson a close friend. "He wrote me a part for the movie, and I said, 'Don't put me in there just because you think you have to, because we're friends. Put me in there if I'm the right guy to be in there.' And he thought about it, and he was like, 'You know what? You're right. You just talked yourself out of a part.'"

Reilly immediately adds, though, "I was really glad. That movie just seems so seamless. It just seems like he discovered this real place."

Reilly, who was in Anderson's Boogie Nights and Magnolia, was nominated for a Golden Globe for his role in Walk Hard; There Will Be Blood is up for four Globes as well. Reilly, who claims he never wants to win an award, says he'll be rooting hard for There Will Be Blood.

"I really hope that those guys [Anderson and Daniel Day-Lewis] get some attention, because I think that movie is a real achievement for Paul. It's such a departure from his other work. I was just staggered by it. I've seen it a couple of times, and I really have high hopes for that one."

Reilly and fellow Anderson collaborator Philip Seymour Hoffman will be competing against each other in the Best Actor in a Musical or Comedy category at the Golden Globes. Since Reilly says he's looking forward to seeing Hoffman on the red carpet, though, we have to imagine it's mostly friendly competition.

Look for more of our interview with John C. Reilly later this week, where he talks about doing scenes in his underwear and meeting the real Dewey Cox.
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Post by: B.C. Long on December 21, 2007, 12:13:21 AM
This was just uploaded on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQR9LOBPL-Y
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Post by: polkablues on December 21, 2007, 12:21:44 AM
Quote from: B.C. Long on December 21, 2007, 12:13:21 AM
This was just uploaded on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQR9LOBPL-Y


But... the... DETAILS!  I NEED MORE DETAILS!   :shock:
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Post by: picolas on December 21, 2007, 03:35:06 AM
Quote from: polkablues on December 21, 2007, 12:21:44 AM
Quote from: B.C. Long on December 21, 2007, 12:13:21 AM
This was just uploaded on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQR9LOBPL-Y


But... the... DETAILS!  I NEED MORE DETAILS!   :shock:
http://therewillbeblood.com
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Post by: elpablo on December 21, 2007, 03:57:33 AM
Does anyone know where I can find where this will be playing next week? I'm in San Diego for a few weeks, so I don't know if I'd rather try to see if it's playing in LA somehwere, or go to the midnight sneak preview here in SD on the 19th.
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Post by: Sleepless on December 21, 2007, 09:50:22 AM
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!  :)

Just called Angelika Dallas, but they said it's not confirmed yet. Not in their system. Lady told me that tickets wouldn't be available till day of. Anyone else getting similar news from other places?
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Post by: JG on December 21, 2007, 10:20:23 AM
THIS IS AWESOME.  I MUST DO THIS.  WHO IS GOING TO GO TO THE BOSTON ONE?
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 21, 2007, 10:39:28 AM
Quote from: elpablo on December 21, 2007, 03:57:33 AM
Does anyone know where I can find where this will be playing next week? I'm in San Diego for a few weeks, so I don't know if I'd rather try to see if it's playing in LA somehwere, or go to the midnight sneak preview here in SD on the 19th.

Try websites like Fandango or Movietickets.com. They'll give you which theaters it's playing in. It opens in LA on the 26th, so it will have a theatrical run, but if you would rather not drive and have a midnight screening experience, go to the SD screening on the 29th.



I just realized: It's nominated for a SAG award, so I should get to see it for free as many times as I want.  :yabbse-thumbup:
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Post by: Pozer on December 21, 2007, 11:05:00 AM
that was a bad-ass little trailer thing right there.  itll be at my favorite theater the arclight in la on the 26th.  that's where im gonna see it. 
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Post by: Gamblour. on December 21, 2007, 11:33:12 AM
God dammit! When is this coming to Atlanta??  :yabbse-angry:
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Post by: Pozer on December 21, 2007, 12:49:57 PM
Quote from: pozer on December 18, 2007, 04:08:47 PM
Quote from: Cinephile on December 12, 2007, 08:54:51 AM
btw, i recorded just about the entire Q&A.  :yabbse-thumbup:

whad up wit dis?

nevermind.  here (http://www.theaspectratio.net/twbbq&a.htm) it is.
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Post by: tpfkabi on December 21, 2007, 01:06:12 PM
Quote from: Sleepless on December 21, 2007, 09:50:22 AM
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!  :)

Just called Angelika Dallas, but they said it's not confirmed yet. Not in their system. Lady told me that tickets wouldn't be available till day of. Anyone else getting similar news from other places?

Dallas is the closest to me.
i'm really confused though - these are sneak previews after the 26th?
i take this to mean it's expanding on January 4th?
(sorry if this is in an article - i've been skipping them for fear of spoilers)
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 21, 2007, 10:11:46 PM
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Daniel Day-Lewis: The Way He Lives Now
As his fourth film in a decade arrives in theaters, the movies' most enigmatic leading man reveals the method behind his onscreen madness
By JUDITH LEWIS; LA Weekly

"You don't meet the book when you meet the writer," the novelist William Gibson has said. "You meet the place where it lives." A relatively uncontroversial remark about the people who vent their imaginations on the page — no one should expect Philip Roth to sound exactly like Nathan Zuckerman — Gibson's adage applies only rarely to actors. Robert De Niro studied hard and put on weight to play Jake LaMotta, but there was never any mistaking the sighs and hand wringings and tongue clicks as anyone's but De Niro's; Meryl Streep plays bossy editors and Polish war survivors with persuasive delicacy, but in Letterman's plush Late Night chair, she still tilts her head and laughs just like Sophie.

Daniel Day-Lewis is another matter. In his current role, as turn-of-the-century oil baron Daniel Plainview in Paul Thomas Anderson's There Will Be Blood, Day-Lewis portrays a man so contorted with greed that he can barely heave a laugh from his toxic throat. You might expect the man behind the mask to have at least some of Plainview's fire. Or a flicker of that fixed, maniacal stare. Or at least a little bit of that thrust-out lower jaw set hard against the rest of humanity.

But it's not so. When Day-Lewis shows up on the patio of the Hotel Bel-Air one November day for an interview, it's a shock: There are the sharp green eyes, the slightly bent nose, gold hoops hanging in the earlobes where Plainview had little holes. But in this man — the one wearing a plaid shirt and jeans, a mop of curly black hair flecked with gray tumbling over his forehead, great lines swooping up around his eyes when he smiles — there isn't the faintest shadow of Plainview; or of Christy Brown, the writer with cerebral palsy Day-Lewis played to great acclaim in My Left Foot; or of Gerry Conlon, the young Irishman wrongly accused of terrorism in In the Name of the Father. If I'd been impressed with his performance in Anderson's film before, after meeting him, I was awed. When you meet Daniel Day-Lewis, to paraphrase Gibson, you don't meet the characters. You don't even meet the actor. You meet the place where it lives.

How does he do it? This is what I wanted to know about Day-Lewis, more than anything else. More than whether he was serious about becoming a cobbler when he studied shoemaking in Italy, or what he finds in the rare script that makes him say yes to a project, or why he left England 15 years ago to live in Ireland. I wanted to know how it is that a person can disappear so thoroughly into a character that everything about him except for his concrete physical attributes is obliterated. I wanted to know how every nuance invented to express that character — Plainview's compensating gait, for instance, meant to suggest a badly healed broken leg — can appear to the audience as the natural result of that fictional character's own long history, and not as an actor's contrivance.

And to my further amazement, Day-Lewis can actually explain how he does it. He can, in fact, make you think that, provided you had his good looks, intelligence and drive, you could do it too.

"It's a game," he tells me. "It really is. It takes a long time from beginning to end. It's a long and complicated game. But it's a game. And it's fun."

It was more than 20 years ago that Day-Lewis first came to the attention of film aficionados when he appeared as the gay, working-class street punk Johnny in Stephen Frears' My Beautiful Laundrette,the same year he played the upper-class twit Cecil to Helena Bonham Carter's girl with the hair in Merchant Ivory's A Room With a View. That the two films screened in many cities simultaneously gave the public and critics alike a little thrill: Can this really be the same man in both of these roles? "Seeing these two performances side by side is an affirmation of the miracle of acting," wrote a smittenRoger Ebert in the Chicago Sun-Times. "That one man could play these two opposites is astonishing."

That was 1985, and Day-Lewis instantly became the actor to watch; four years later, the trailer for My Left Foot consisted of little but Day-Lewis head shots and accolades. He disappointed no one: He won a Best Actor Oscar for his humane, heart-rending portrayal of Christy Brown, and there were few holdouts around to say he didn't deserve it. The consummate Method actor, who feels his work from the inside out, Day-Lewis prepared meticulously for the role, slumping himself over in a wheelchair for so many months on end that he reportedly broke two ribs.

It was a big deal, then, that he agreed to appear as the eponymous Danish prince in Richard Eyre's Hamlet at the National Theatre while My Left Foot was still in the theaters — a production that was billed as the "Daniel Day-Lewis Hamlet." Though the performance earned him only lukewarm reviews (his Hamlet, evidently, was too sweet and not sufficiently Shakespearean), the production has gone down in history as the one in which, nearing the end of an eight-month run, Day-Lewis burst into tears during the ghost scene and rushed offstage, leaving his understudy, Jeremy Northam, to take over. Official rumor says that Day-Lewis saw the ghost of his own father, British poet laureate Cecil Day-Lewis, with him onstage. What is certain is that he never returned to theater again.

But he did come back to the movies, in 1992, with heartthrob turns as Hawkeye in Michael Mann's The Last of the Mohicans (for which he learned to skin animals, fished and lived off the land) and as the tortured, empathetic Newland Archer in The Age of Innocence, the first of two films with Martin Scorsese. The next year, he did another film with My Left Foot director Jim Sheridan, In the Name of the Father. Once again, Day-Lewis delivered a performance to drop the most cynical jaw: His portrayal of the young, working-class Irishman caught up in the British antiterrorist legal system of the 1970s is piercingly genuine and specific, right down to the last little self-conscious toss of the head, a familiar gesture among young men of the era clearing long hair from their eyes without using their hands.

Almost never is it feasible, in advance of meeting an actor with a few decades of work behind him, to watch a whole career's worth of films. With Day-Lewis, however, it's possible, because in the 22 years he's been famous, he has appeared in only 14 films; in the past decade, only four. Journalists, particularly in England, have often interpreted this as evidence of Day-Lewis' elitism or extremism, but it really only proves that, at 50, the actor leads a relatively normal life beyond movies, with hobbies and a wife and kids. He's married to Rebecca Miller, daughter of Arthur, whom he met on the set of The Crucible in 1996; together they have two sons, Cashel, 5, and Ronan, 9. He also has another son with Isabelle Adjani, Gabriel-Kane, 12, who lives with his mother. "There are more and more things to preoccupy me outside of the world of films," he admits. At the same time, he doesn't completely shut out movies between roles.

"Something that has been suggested on my behalf is that I live an almost bipolar existence, with the public life of filmmaking on one side and a sort of reclusive, almost misanthropic life on the other." (This has been suggested most often in the British press, which has "grossly misrepresented my life," he says.) "But it never appears to me that there's any chasm, any rift, between those two worlds. My life to me contains both the professional and the personal very easily. But because you tend to be written about when you're for whatever reason in the public eye, then they depict you as having left and returned.

"But it's not a return to me. I never went away. I never left myself. I simply need the time I spend not working in films, the time away, to do the work that I love to do in the way that I love to do it."

The work Day-Lewis does begins with meticulous advance preparation, during which he lives as much as he can like the character he's playing. For Gerry Conlon, he tried for three days to sleep in a prison cell; in 1988, while starring as the restless doctor Tomas in The Unbearable Lightness of Being, he learned to speak Czech; to play Jack Slavin in The Ballad of Jack and Rose two years ago, a movie written and directed by his wife, he and Miller lived apart so he could more deeply connect with the isolation of a dying man perplexed about his family.

Preparing for There Will Be Blood was trickier. Though the film was eventually shot in Marfa, Texas, most of its action is set in Southern California from the turn of the century until the 1920s. Day-Lewis was living in Ireland for the two years it took to get the movie financed — "an environment that was of no help to me whatsoever" — and despite the U.K. Guardian's speculation that the actor, given his penchant for physical research, was "out drilling for oil in his Wicklow back garden," this time Day-Lewis did most of his preparation in his head.

He read letters written home by the "men who were living in holes in the ground," florid letters, "full of sentimentality, full of love and loss." He pored over photographs of the period, "of these lads scooping up oil from the ground in buckets and saucepans and whatever they could take with them before drilling was developed," and of the landscape of oil-rich Southern California pockmarked with oil fields.

"From Bakersfield to Signal Hill to Los Angeles, it was a forest of oil derricks," he says. "Squeezed between these derricks intermittently were these tiny little houses in which people were living their lives, stepping out of their front doors into a quagmire of crude oil just running down the streets. That was the foundation of this city!" He also read up on oil tycoon Edward Doheny (a name he pronounces Do-HAY-ny), who, like Plainview, was born in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, and made his way west to a millionaire future in Los Angeles, although the book on which There Will Be Blood is loosely based, Upton Sinclair's Oil!, is itself only loosely based on Doheny.

"In the end," Day-Lewis says, "no matter what stimulus you can find that belonged to that world, that world that you're trying to imagine, finally imagination is the only thing that's going to take you there. And more than anything else, I had time. I had time, and a quiet place, and neutral surroundings. I've got a room at home where I can really daydream without being disturbed, and I suppose it's there where things ferment." Things like Daniel Plainview's voice, which the actor says came to him in pieces and parts, and recordings from the Dust Bowl and the '20s-era Fond-du-Lac proved less helpful than his own ear.

"I like to have the illusion that I can hear that voice before I'm able to speak with that voice," he says. "I do use a little tape recorder. I talk to myself a lot. I try without thinking about it to have a sense of whether that voice belongs to me in my new life." For Plainview, "I discarded a lot of ideas that didn't work, and a lot of possibilities. Finally, I just began to hear a voice which seemed to be right. I couldn't make the sounds initially. I could hear them, but I couldn't make them." Gradually, it began to stick: The way Daniel Plainview sounds matters as much as the way he crouches down to marvel at the flames erupting out of a newly exploded well.

"We don't choose our voices," Day-Lewis says. "So within the voice, there's an expression of the very self."

"Do you really want to know about that?" Day-Lewis protests when I ask how he manages to live on set in character. He looks down at his hands and laughs. He has just been profiled in a many-thousand-word New York Times Magazine story by Lynn Hirschberg, which had Day-Lewis on the cover, smiling, nearly life-size; you could see pores. He's reluctant to "gob off" even more about himself, not out of humility or standoffishness but out of a firm conviction that there should be other things to talk about, like what's happening in Pakistan, or Gaza. But like it or not, Day-Lewis has come here to gob off, and Paramount Pictures is paying for the hotel suite, and so he complies.

But not without objections: "The odd thing about this particular period of time is that if you do what you have to do to try to encourage people to see a film you've worked very hard on, it appears, I suppose, as if you're engaged in an orgy of self-promotion. Which really wouldn't be my thing." I get that, I assure him, but still, I want to know: Did he really eat, smoke and drink as Daniel Plainview even when the cameras weren't rolling?

I should mention here that the way Daniel Day-Lewis sounds on the page, uttering these clean, neat, clearly composed sentences right off the cuff, isn't really a fair representation of how he sounds in person. There are "um"s, "ah"sand pauses so long that it's hard to resist finishing his sentences or interrupting him to get on to the next point. He comes off neither overly learned nor haughty, only obdurately sincere, always checking himself to make sure that he means what he says. He interjects the name of the person he's talking to as he speaks, as if to remind himself to treat each new interrogator lumbering through an inevitably dreary day of publicity as an individual. He brightens up when the discussion veers off filmmaking to politics, world events or California State Highway 1. "It's hard driving that coast," says the motorbike enthusiast, who drove the route recently on his way from Los Angeles to a race in Monterey. "Every 200 yards, you have to stop and drink it in."

All this affability makes it hard to believe that, as Hirschberg suggested, Day-Lewis so intimidated an actor on the There Will Be Blood set that Anderson had to replace him with Paul Dano halfway into the 60-day shoot. Day-Lewis seems confused by the story. "When Lynn mentioned that to me, I was genuinely surprised," he says. "I didn't believe it. I'd be very, very sorry if that were true. It appalled me to think that it might be true. It would never be my intention. Apart from everything else, it would be self-defeating to intimidate a colleague I was working with. No matter what the rivalry is, even if it's murderous between those two characters, you're in a partnership, you're in a dance of some kind. And it's absolutely vital that you work together."

It is true that the actor originally cast in the role of the young evangelical preacher Eli Sunday was recast two months into shooting. But Day-Lewis rejects the idea that his process caused the trouble. "I suppose I always hope there's some sort of tacit understanding between myself and my colleagues that I work the way I do," he admits. "I don't expect them to work in the same way. I don't mind what way they work in to arrive at what they're trying to arrive at, as long as it doesn't interfere with me. And I really try not to interfere with them in any way, and only ever encourage them to do what they need to do to find that thing."

When I initially let the topic go, he brings the conversation back. "Just to return to that question," he says, "[the article] also kind of suggested that Leo [DiCaprio, on Gangs of New York]felt the same way about me,and I just don't think that's true. Leo is a very strong, independent, serious actor. He's wonderful. And he knows how it works. He may not have liked me during that time, I don't know. We get on very, very well. I'm very fond of him. I've never discussed it with him. He never suggested to me that I was making his life difficult in any way. And I don't think I was."

"Look," he concludes, "everyone has insecurities. Every single person on the set at one time goes through a moment of black despair about what it is they're trying to do. They're all subject to those weighty questions that seem to press us into the ground sometimes. And it's possible one might be insensitive to the needs of somebody who's spinning off course, because you're taken with a fever, just like all those oil prospectors were — all driving forwards.

"All that I ever hope for from any colleague is that when the collision takes place in front of the camera that there's a recognizable human being there, telling the truth. Speaking, listening, responding. I don't care how extreme that process is."

Dano had already been indoctrinated in the Day-Lewis experience when he played the teenage Thaddius in The Ballad of Jack and Rose ("a boy with a face like a blade," wrote Manohla Dargis in The New York Times). After There Will Be Blood, he suggests that working with Day-Lewis is far less frightening than inspiring. "I think there's a general feeling about Daniel that what he does is abnormal," Dano says by phone from New York, where he's appearing off-Broadway in Things We Want. "But I have to say, when you're there with him, it could not make more perfect sense. He's doing what he has to do to give the best performance he can, and he has the nerve and passion and commitment to do it."

It sounds like very serious work, this thing Day-Lewis does, but only when somebody writes about it. "I think I've been my own worst enemy in the past," the actor admits, "judging by the stuff that's been said about me. It sounds as if I'm being kind of dragged in a straitjacket to the set, kicking and screaming, struggling with a sort of reluctance." What almost never comes through is the obvious delight Day-Lewis takes in pretending so thoroughly to be somebody else.

"For my sense of continuity, I suppose I work in a certain way," he says. "But it goes beyond that. It's really about the sense of joy you have in having worked hard to imagine and discover and — one hopes — to create a world, an illusion of a world that other people might believe in because you believe in it yourself, a form of self-delusion. After achieving that, it seems far crazier to jump in and out of that world that you've gone to such pains to create. And it wouldn't be my wish to do that, because I enjoy being in there.

"It all sounds so grandiose, because of course you're surrounded by reminders of the modern world, everywhere you go. Part of the work you have to do is narrowing your focus, continually shutting out, closing off the peripheral vision that would take in the cables and the catering and the anoraks and so on and so forth. But I don't find that hard to do — the power of self-delusion, I suppose — and it's the joy that I find in that work, in inhabiting a world that you've taken such pains to imagine.

"Just like in other kinds of creative work, you get to enjoy that extraordinary sensation of timelessness, that time ceases to have any relevance or importance while you're working. And within that, you experience the loss of the self. It's a temporary thing, but it's a very invigorating thing, the loss of the self. Do you know what I mean?"

I would be lucky if I did, I think — and probably a much better actor.

"It's like you're constantly trying to head off the conscious mind, which will, whether you like it or not, attempt to stay one step ahead of you," he elaborates. "The imagination is on the frontline of the unconscious. And you do whatever you can do to engage that animal part of yourself, that instinctive part of yourself."

These are not tricks he learned in theater school, at the Bristol Old Vic. "The learning of skills and the disciplines and so on and so forth — those just provide a framework to stop you from spilling over into chaos," he says. "But it's very important to live close to the possibility of chaos. Very, very important."

To the question "How did you know Daniel Day-Lewis was right for the role of Daniel Plainview?" Paul Thomas Anderson answers, "That's like asking, 'How did you fall in love with your wife?' I could say, 'Well, she's got a great sense of humor,' but that doesn't describe her. I guess you just have to assume because of Daniel's previous work that he's capable of doing anything."

It also helped that Day-Lewis is not, in the traditional sense, a movie star. "It is very helpful to a filmmaker to work with an actor who doesn't have a personality that is easily accessible in the way that some film stars do. You are that much more at an advantage when creating another world entirely, when creating the illusion of somebody else. It's quite hard to get past someone's personality if it's bigger than their performances."

People will have various opinions about There Will Be Blood. They already do: Though there's a strong Oscar buzz about the film (Day-Lewis will likely be nominated for Best Actor) and some reviewers are ecstatic, others have squirmed in their seats at the film's length (two hours and 40 minutes) and its unapologetic brutality — not violence, though there's some of that, but Anderson's defiant independence, and the film's absolute refusal to throw anyone any sort of feel-better bone. But — and this may be hard to believe — the film gets better the more you watch it. I know this because, after meeting Day-Lewis, I borrowed a friend's "for your consideration" DVD and watched it again, and again, then replayed scenes over and over just to try to find the actor in the work. I couldn't. Not only that — I would find the world falling away as I watched, forgetting that I was watching an actor. Forgetting why I was watching at all, if not to relive the story.

This isn't only because of Day-Lewis' performance; it's also because of a script that serves him (and Dano) with a character who, for all his darkness, still claws at rising above his cruel beginnings in a way we all recognize. "It appeared to me to come from a very much unconscious self," Day-Lewis says of Anderson's script. "I didn't know Paul at all. I didn't know him as a man. But I knew when I read it that he had already inhabited this world. I think the very best writers do that, in very much the same way that we do it when we're working, or try to. I felt like he understood each and every one of those people that he was describing, and understood the world that they came from. He had taken the seed of an idea and progressed it moment by moment to such an audacious conclusion."

Plainview, were he real, would be among the men of history celebrated on dignified brass plaques and in statues all over the world. "But when you take off their tall hats and long-tailed coats," Day-Lewis observes, "they're just covered in the stuff." Oil, that is.

As are we all. When Plainview strokes the head of his injured boy, or sobs over the found journal of a lost family member, he reminds us that he still belongs to us, not only as a fellow human but as an iconic American. In our cars and planes and heated homes, we all benefit from the oil prospector's largess and pay for his sins every day.

Like many other films this season, There Will Be Blood announces in the credits that it's a "carbon-neutral production," which means that for every unit of carbon emitted during the making of the film, an offset was purchased, probably in the form of a tree. And Anderson, who got the idea for the film when he read Sinclair's book while traveling in London, clearly had a point to make about human greed laid bare in the petroleum industry.

But both director and star insist that There Will Be Blood is neither a political film nor a metaphor for anything. "Parallels are a menace," says Day-Lewis. "For the sake of doing the work itself, we had to set aside, put under lock and key, all our personal feelings about [oil]. Otherwise, we'd have been in the business of trying to teach, which is death to any kind of storytelling."

Still, he laments the proliferation of SUVs in Ireland. In Ireland? With those tiny streets?

"I go to school in the morning with my lad, and I park the car in a lot that's jammed full of SUVs they absolutely have no need of whatsoever," he attests. "Everyone is buying cars. They can't afford houses, so I guess they're buying cars instead. They're everywhere. Perched up in those bloody things, looking down on you, lording it over the rest of us.

"The roads in Ireland are only that wide. They're buying these things you can just jam between the hedgerows. It's madness."

A few years ago, Day-Lewis said in an interview that after decades of self-doubt — decades of asking himself whether, even after an Oscar and all that, he could be useful in the profession — he had finally realized that "Is there any reason to be doing this?" is a healthy question to be asking oneself, enthusiastically and repeatedly.

"It came to me in the form of a revelation," he explains. "When I was a young utopian and still had that conflict, I found it terribly unsettling, because it made me question my commitment to the thing I was apparently giving my life over to. And I worked a lot more in those days than I do now. So it really came as a great relief [to discover] that it was vital to have that conflict, to continually reassess the reason for doing this work, which may well have changed over the years.

"My ambition for many years was to be involved in work that was utterly compelling to me, regardless of the consequences. But I worried a lot as a young man about where such and such a thing might take me; you're encouraged to think that way. You're supposed to build a career for yourself. But there's no part of me that was able to do that. And thank God I was able to recognize it before I sort of went gray with anxiety."

Far from building a career, he now sees himself starting all over each time he determines he can be sufficiently useful to a director and accepts a role. "It's absolutely new each and every time," he says. "For all that you carry with you as you get older — and if you've had the good fortune to work in films that people have seen and in some cases liked, you carry with you the burden of expectation — all that went before is meaningless. Absolutely meaningless. Because you're a baby. From the moment you decide to go to work again, you're a baby. You have to empty yourself if you're going to be any kind of vessel at all.

"I suppose that's the salvation of all of us. With all the kind of grandiosity that surrounds the way of life that actors lead, there's an insistent humility to the work itself, because you cannot do it unless you begin with nothing each time."

The beginner's mind: Some people meditate for a lifetime to find it.

Day-Lewis laughs. "I don't think I've achieved separation from the material world just yet," he says. "The loss of myself happens in a place that's very concrete." Right: in the movies.


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Daniel Day-Lewis, prospector
The actor, with writer-director Paul Thomas Anderson, relentlessly drilled and tested toward discovery in the oil drama 'There Will Be Blood.'
By Michael Ordoña, Los Angeles Times

MISANTHROPIC turn-of-the-century oilman Daniel Plainview is the unstoppable, dark-smoke-emitting engine that powers "There Will Be Blood." Writer-director Paul Thomas Anderson's grim, extremely loose adaptation of Upton Sinclair's novel "Oil!" struck black gold when Daniel Day-Lewis agreed to embody its unlikely hero. Perhaps even more unlikely, when Day-Lewis, one of the most intense -- and intensely sought-after -- of actors, discusses the dark, idiosyncratic character study, the word that comes to him is "joy."

"In as far as it was the unfettered expression of something that needed to be expressed, because there's joy in creativity," he says of the film, opening in Los Angeles on Wednesday. "It doesn't matter if you're creating a dark story, which this might be, or a light comedy; there has to be joy there. . . . The inner joy that comes from saying something you need to say."
 
Warm and vital, eyes full of mischief and nose just crooked enough to be interesting,the renowned yet press-shy actor is hardly Garbo-esque as he sits down in a suite on a recent day at the Four Seasons Hotel in Beverly Hills. He's engaging, funny and possessed of a driving intelligence apparent whether he's talking about acting, woodworking or impending catastrophe.

"This film had all the makings of a complete disaster, really," says Day-Lewis, wearing a loose flannel shirt and jeans, his longish hair sometimes covering the golden hoop in each ear. "Just to find someone to finance the thing was a problem," he says of "Blood," which was eventually co-financed by Miramax and Paramount Vantage. "It's all guys, there's no one pretty to look at, there's no love story. It could be read, I suppose -- not by me -- as a fairly bleak parable about the wages of sin and so on. But to me, it appeared to be so joyful."

The actor seems to have found an artistic symbiosis with Valley auteur Anderson: "Well, we're perverse, maybe, the two of us. We discovered each other's like-minded perversity. . . . I felt tremendously close to Paul before, during and after the work.

"Many of the best writers inhabit the world that they are creating, very much in the way that performers try to inhabit that world in the work that they do. My thing with Paul's films, most especially, I suppose, 'Punch-Drunk Love' -- and I feel very much the same about this one as well -- is that he was inside the story that he was telling. He's not reaching for effect; he's expressing something that he has a pressing need to express."

While the 500-plus page "Oil!" starts as a detailed look at the burgeoning crude industry in turn-of-the-century California and becomes a socialist-leaning cautionary tale of the struggle between labor and capital, Anderson's "Blood," which is already pulling in critics groups awards and is gaining momentum as a best picture Oscar nominee, liberally changes plot elements, relationships and even names. He mined the setting and the father-son bond of the book's first 150 pages to prime the pump for his own writing. "There Will Be Blood" follows Plainview as he navigates obstacles physical, familial and spiritual (in butting heads with a willful young preacher, played by Paul Dano) in his drive to master the "ocean of oil" beneath his feet.

"I didn't feel enough confidence to start writing words to come out of these people's mouths," said the writer-director as he joined Day-Lewis in conversation. "But to use Upton Sinclair as a 'piggyback in' seemed like the thing to do."

Anderson also wasn't locked into a single vision, creating instead what Day-Lewis calls a sense of freedom on the set to explore different interpretations.

"We were pretty loose about where scenes would take place," Anderson says. "We were changing things constantly just to find the right way to do it. A couple of times we ran ourselves around chasing our tails feeling like we'd gotten a great version of that scene the first time, but there are just as many times where the fourth or fifth time we tried it and did a different location or whatever it was, it was really worth the effort we put into it."

It's a creative process that meshed perfectly with Day-Lewis' approach.

"You know, many directors control because they have too fully formed a vision, so they're in terror" that everyone around them will mess up their story, says the actor. "So the answer to that is control. Paul is absolutely not like that. He positively thrives on the creative work of anyone that is there on the set with him, be they actors or technical people."

That openness is evident as Anderson describes how Day-Lewis' input completely reshaped a problematic scene in which another character gives Plainview news of the oilman's son.

"We're trying to figure out how to do the scene; of course, nothing was working," says the writer-director. "And Daniel said something really perfect: 'In my experience if there's a problem, it's usually in the writing.' And he was exactly right! We looked at the scene and we slashed it down to about a quarter of a page to, like, six lines of dialogue. It's a really good scene. I love watching it when it comes up.

"You get a bonus dish with Daniel in that he's an exceptional writer -- he would never admit that, but he is."

A deep immersion in roles

WHEN asked what of Day-Lewis' previous work Anderson admires, he says, "I'm not being cute or anything: everything. I didn't know that the same guy who was in 'My Beautiful Laundrette' was in 'My Left Foot.' I put two and two together but got through the whole movie not knowing."

Anderson can be excused for not recognizing Day-Lewis, who fooled many with his first big splash in 1985 by appearing simultaneously as the tough, gay punk rocker in "Laundrette" and the hilariously effete suitor in "A Room With a View." He collected an Oscar four years later for his utterly convincing portrayal of cerebral palsy-afflicted artist Christy Brown in "My Left Foot" and was nominated again for roles as the wrongly imprisoned Gerry Conlon in "In the Name of the Father" (1993) and one of the screen's great monsters, Bill the Butcher, in "Gangs of New York" (2002), stamping him as one of the era's finest actors.

As the films rolled out, stories began to emerge of the actor's deep immersion in roles, at one point suggesting he "went native" to authentically develop the skills necessary to portray the early American scout Hawkeye in "The Last of the Mohicans." Day-Lewis' single-minded devotion to his craft might seem excessive or even torturous to some, but the actor prefers the analogy of an athlete's pure focus, shutting out the crowd.

"Whenever it's described by pretty much anybody else, it nearly always appears to be a madness with a self-flagellatory aspect to it. That doesn't tell the story -- to me, at any rate. To work is always pure pleasure. I see no reason to pick a fight with myself."

Given that intensity of focus, coupled with the actor's habitual reticence to discuss his specific techniques ("It always sounds so pretentious," he protests), it's difficult to piece together exactly how he does what he does.

"I have almost no memory of it whatsoever," he says of his work on "Blood," laughing. "I think, invariably, people involved in creative work, if they're lucky, they feel they hand themselves over to the course of something else, to the creation of something they're not entirely responsible for. We look back upon it as if it's an experience had almost by someone else."

When there was a break of a few days between takes of a largely improvised public-address scene, Anderson discovered just how well his leading man knew that "someone else."

"It was near the end of the shoot and we were well-versed in Plainview-speak, it really just came tumbling out of him. Anyway, he went on a little bit and then we ran out of time," says the director. When they reconvened a few days later to resume shooting the scene, "He said, 'OK, are you ready for this?' . . . And he just spewed out that speech, and it was just how it is in the film. Talking about bread, 'A loaf of bread is a luxury,' talking about education, talking about family -- I'm not quite sure how he did it, but that was all him. It was delicious, it was Plainview on a platter."

It was just one of many instances in which Day-Lewis' instincts shaped Plainview and the film. The actor used oral histories from the period to create Plainview's distinctive voice and his subtle use of costuming also expressed the character.

"It's about how that character perceives himself," he says of choosing wardrobe. "You ever have a moment when you look at somebody, a stranger maybe, you look at the way they're dressed, and you try to imagine them in the shop, picking that out, trying it on, looking in the mirror, saying, 'Mmmm, OK, I'll take it'?

"So how does it make you feel about yourself, as that character? When you put that hat on, did it allow you to speak to people with a little more authority than you had before?"

Anderson adds, "There's a scene where Daniel sits down with three other men and they all take off their hats -- and Daniel starts to take off his hat and puts it right back on."

Through loud laughter, Day-Lewis voices the subtext: "Too late, boys! The hat's on. So. Let the meeting begin. I'm the one with the hat on."

The craft of it all

IN his teens, Day-Lewis developed a passion for woodworking that, although he indulges rarely these days, lights up his eyes to discuss. He did craft a table used in his 2005 film "The Ballad of Jack and Rose," which his wife, Rebecca Miller, wrote and directed. When asked about pieces that carry special meaning for him, he immediately mentions two:

"One -- when I look at it now, I'm sort of embarrassed -- my mum still boasts about it, and everyone who comes to the house knows that it's a table that I made . . . and a set of chairs to go with it, when I was about 15. Out of pine and walnut. They're nice enough, but I can see all the flaws in them. But they're so dear to her that for that reason they're kind of dear to me.

"The other one is a Welsh dresser. I made one of those in my final year [of secondary school], and it was a much more complicated piece, required more complicated joinery. I gave it to my housemaster, who had really been very, very good to me over the years. So that was a very special thing."

Considering this age of mass-production, woodworking and cobbling -- another of Day-Lewis' interests -- seem vanishing arts. Combined with the skills he famously picked up for such movies as "Last of the Mohicans" and "Gangs of New York" (for which he learned the old-fashioned butcher's trade), it's easy to imagine him a man out of time.

"Yes, I'm not really of the Industrial Age, altogether," he confesses. "And I'm absolutely not of the Computer Age. That's something that's going to pass me by, probably to the end of my days, except where I've got to learn the basics well enough to help my kids out with their homework. Yeah, I think I'm fairly primitive.

"I don't even use a typewriter. I just like the old ways. I like handmade things, even if they're flawed, as they always are. I think there's great beauty in the flaws of a handmade thing. I like pens and ink and proper paper, and all those things."

On the other hand, Day-Lewis is of a generation that believes in the value of film work, as opposed to what he characterizes as a snobbish British view of the superiority of the stage. The English-born, naturalized Irishman's family was involved in the theater, while his grandfather was a film producer who ran Ealing Studios. Day-Lewis' acting heroes (apart from Charles Laughton and Anthony Hopkins) tended toward American movie rebels such as Marlon Brando, Robert De Niro and Montgomery Clift, who, upon reflection, he could easily play.

Many of those actors' portrayals were of conflicted, hard-to-easily-categorize characters. What Anderson and Day-Lewis get at in "There Will Be Blood" is similarly elusive, although indelible, like an intentionally blurred tattoo. There are no clear lines drawn between heroes and villains. Plainview seems very much both.

"Plainview's experiences would not have been that uncommon within that . . . appallingly brutal way of life," says Day-Lewis, acknowledging that his character develops his own moral code, perhaps as a side effect of working tirelessly and achieving such success.

"But it went beyond money. The fever goes beyond -- there is no reward that can satisfy, that can douse the flames of that fever. That's the problem. Because the fever is the thing itself. It becomes an end in itself. Get more land. Get more wealth. . . . There is no end to it. It's the work itself."
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 22, 2007, 01:20:06 AM
Variety Video Review:

http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=videoBC&bcpid=713438540&bclid=1283221640&bctid=1351307137

Bulk of the footage is taken from the trailer, although there are a couple brief scenes. Watch at own risk.
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 22, 2007, 09:50:46 AM
AP Review: `Blood' Is Anderson's Epic

**SPOILERS**

Someday, we're probably going to look back at "There Will Be Blood," Paul Thomas Anderson's epic about greed, lies, manipulation and insanity, and call it his masterpiece.

Which is incredible because, except for the inescapable intensity, it's nothing like his previous films; if Anderson's name weren't on it, you'd never know it was his. It's thrilling to see him reinvent himself this way, applying his formidable directing talents in a totally different fashion.

Gone are the film-school tricks he made his name with in "Boogie Nights" and "Magnolia" (and this critic loved those movies). Anderson has moved out of contemporary L.A. and away from the histrionics of the carefully orchestrated ensembles he set there. He now seems more interested in storytelling and character development.

What a character he's created in Daniel Plainview and what a performance he's gotten out of Daniel Day-Lewis.

As a turn-of-the-century oil man, Day-Lewis gives one of the more terrifying turns of his long and eclectic career. He just completely dominates. He can be charming and cruel in the same breath, and with an accent reminiscent of John Huston, he says and does whatever he must to get his way.

That includes taking over a chunk of the central California coast and building a town there so that he can drill. (Anderson based his script very loosely on Upton Sinclair's 1920s muckraking novel "Oil!") A one-time silver miner, Plainview accidentally finds gold one day and sets his sights higher; this all takes place at the film's start, which stunningly lasts 15 wordless minutes.

"I hate most people," Plainview eventually confesses in a rare moment of introspection. The only one he connects with is his young son, H.W. (confident newcomer Dillon Freasier), who travels with him from town to town and tries to soften up the locals to get them to sell their land.

One person in Plainview's latest target of Little Boston who sees right through his tactics is the fresh-faced, seemingly innocent preacher, Eli Sunday, played with unexpected volatility by Paul Dano ("Little Miss Sunshine"). Eli comes off as soft-voiced, pious and ingratiating. He offers to give a blessing when Plainview opens his first derrick, for example, and won't take no for an answer. ("It's a simple blessing, Daniel, but an important one," he insists.)

But once Eli is on a roll, preaching in the town's crowded, makeshift church, he turns into a wildly charismatic evangelist and right then and there, Plainview knows he's met his match. They hate each other instantly; both recognize they're two sides of the same coin. And the ensuing, humiliating game of one-upmanship in which they engage is raw and riveting.

Just as Plainview enjoys his greatest success, though, he also suffers his greatest heartbreak. He gets his gusher but the spectacular derrick explosion leaves H.W. without hearing. This also marks the beginning of the end of Plainview's sanity, which at best was tenuous. The more money he makes, the more his mind and morals deteriorate.

Could this be Anderson's cautionary tale about the evils of greed and wealth? Hardly. He's never judged his characters before (porn stars, junkies) and he's not about to start now. It's more like a character study of a fascinating and deeply flawed man during a time of great change in our country. Reading much more into his intentions would be foolish.

One quibble: "There Will Be Blood" feels a bit too long, though it is shorter than Anderson's magnum opus "Magnolia," which ran just over three hours. Nevertheless, at the end and the climax is a jaw-dropper, one that hopefully hasn't already been ruined for you through news reports you may have a hard time getting out of your seat. It'll knock you out.

But please do take the time to see it on the big screen, for Robert Elswit's sprawling, dreamlike cinematography; for Jack Fisk's elaborate production design; and for the modern, dissonant score from Radiohead guitarist Jonny Greenwood that will grab you and set you on edge from the first frames.

It's worth the emotional investment. "There Will Be Blood," which is both a threat and a promise, is one of those movies that will stick with you and change your mood for days.

"There Will Be Blood," a Paramount Vantage release, is rated R for some violence. Running time: 158 minutes. Three and a half stars out of four.
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Post by: noyes on December 22, 2007, 12:02:59 PM
Quote from: idk on December 20, 2007, 01:20:06 PM
Charlie Rose interview with PTA & DDL airs Friday December 21

interview is now up (http://www.charlierose.com/guests/paul-anderson)
really glad it's a full 50 min show/

is it just me, or is that brown long-sleeve/blue t-shirt the only shirts that Paul owns?
he's been wearing them for two months now..

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Post by: cine on December 22, 2007, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: noyes on December 22, 2007, 12:02:59 PM
Quote from: idk on December 20, 2007, 01:20:06 PM
Charlie Rose interview with PTA & DDL airs Friday December 21

interview is now up (http://www.charlierose.com/guests/paul-anderson)
really glad it's a full 50 min show/

i think it goes without saying that you shouldn't listen to this if you haven't seen it. the touch on the ending and such.

that said though, its such an entertaining interview. one of favs.
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Post by: Pubrick on December 22, 2007, 08:30:29 PM
Quote from: cinemanarchist on December 22, 2007, 02:50:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQR9LOBPL-Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQR9LOBPL-Y)

BLOOD will be coming early to select cities on MIDNIGHT December 29th. I'll see all of my Dallas Xixaxers there.

posted two days ago..

Quote from: B.C. Long on December 21, 2007, 12:13:21 AM
This was just uploaded on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQR9LOBPL-Y


but i guess this is what happens when ppl post links without explaining wtf they are.
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 23, 2007, 10:18:59 AM
'Blood's' new blood
Discouraged by what the usual casting sources had turned up, an executive with the film strikes gold after searching the plains of Texas for a young costar for Daniel Day-Lewis.
By Paul Lieberman, Los Angeles Times

**SOME SPOILERS**

NEW YORK -- THE history of Hollywood is replete with remarkable tales, and sometimes fables, of how performers got their first big breaks -- think Lana Turner in Schwab's Drug Store. Now add to that the kid who wound up on screen thanks to a middle-school principal and a speeding casting agent.

He's Dillon Freasier of Fort Davis, Texas, who was 10 when he landed the role as Daniel Day-Lewis' purported son -- you have to see the film to understand the "purported" part -- in "There Will Be Blood."
 
Writer-director Paul Thomas Anderson recalled recently that the movie-making team initially looked at established child actors in L.A. and New York while searching for the right one to portray "H.W.," the stoic youngster who accompanies oil man Daniel Plainview, played by Day-Lewis, as he sweet-talks groups of ranchers into giving him rights to get rich off their land. But the candidates they found in those acting hotbeds, "young men with head shots and that sort of thing, and résumés," left them cold, Anderson said. "We thought they should be sent to their rooms. . . . We thought we needed a boy from Texas who knew how to shoot shotguns and live in that world."

Casting director Cassandra Kulukundis thus targeted schools in a number of rural areas but especially near where the shoot would be based, in Marfa, Texas, asking educators if they knew of, in Kulukundis' words, "a child who didn't play with GameBoys but worked outside," or as Anderson put it, "a man in a young boy's body."

So it was that a principal in Fort Davis, at a school so small it had perhaps eight boys of the right age, mentioned one who'd won belt buckles in rodeos, and prizes for showing pigs, and had horses at home, and was preternaturally self-composed. That's how the 30-year-old Kulukundis, who regular does casting for Anderson's films, came to do improv with Dillon Freasier, "and he just stayed in my mind, so I called [his mother] at home and asked if it was all right if I could come over that night."

But you don't put all your eggs in one basket. So soon after, Kulukundis was racing to another school to see more boys, "very late and very lost," and didn't see the car with the radar gun lurking under a tree.

She did hear the siren, though, and dutifully, if unhappily, pulled her rental car to the side of the road, where she encountered a stern female state trooper, who approached and asked, "Ma'am, do you know what you were doing?" It seems she was going 75 in a 25 mph zone, and she might have quibbled about how the speed limit dropped so suddenly (Speed trap! Speed trap!) had not the "very scary" trooper lady examined her driver's license and announced, "I think you're coming to my home tonight."

So that's how she met Dillon's mom, Regina, and wound up with "just a warning," thank you, and with a child actor who she discovered could memorize two pages of dialogue with one reading and didn't fidget or blink or any of that normal kid's stuff. He'd stand straight up too, with fingers in his pocket like a grown cowpuncher, and say "Yes, ma'am."

That said, the whole casting dream nearly had a sour ending when trooper momma got curious about whom her son would be working with and drove 45 minutes to a video store where she asked if they had any films with this Daniel Day-Lewis.

Day-Lewis takes the story from there: "She thought she better check out this bunch of people taking care of her son. . . . So she got 'Gangs of New York,' " in which Day-Lewis played, of course, the aptly named Bill the Butcher. "Absolutely appalled! . . . She thought she was releasing her dear child to this monster. And so there was a flurry of phone calls and somebody sent a copy of 'The Age of Innocence.' "

Parental concerns allayed, they started shooting "There Will Be Blood" with the required teacher and social worker on hand and a timekeeper to make sure he was not exploited child labor, all while Dillon begged to be allowed to stay and do more scenes.

"I remember having the first costume fitting," Anderson said. "And you would think that most 10-year-old boys would not look forward to wearing, what do they call them, those britches? But the second he saw them he said, 'I've always wanted to wear britches.' "

Ready to be mean

DAY-LEWIS wondered how Dillon would take it when, as the determined Plainview, he had to summon up his inner Bill the Butcher and get nasty, or worse, with those standing in his way . . . and eventually with his supposed son, as well.

"I started to worry a little bit because we were very close," Day-Lewis said, "and I thought, 'Man, how's he going to feel when I start treating him harshly?' So I kind of sat him down. I created this sort of atmosphere . . . portentous atmosphere. 'Dillon, you know how I feel about you and there are going to be moments . . . I'm not going to treat you nicely. I want you to understand that I love you.' . . . He looked at me like I was insane."

Kulukundis, who felt like family by then with her young discovery, also recalls the shaking head of disbelief from the kid who was raised amid unruly horses and pigs and tough wranglers. "Dillon would say to me, 'Daniel thinks I'm taking this seriously . . . I know what I signed up for.' "

Much has transpired for him, naturally, since the filming the summer before last. He got to walk his first red carpet recently here in New York, with his mom, who has been able to leave her dangerous job with the state police. Dillon himself, now 11, also has moved on to an endeavor far more important in Texas than acting: He's playing football, as a fullback.

The casting lady, meanwhile, is staying in contact, ready with advice on what he should and shouldn't do next (No silly soda commercials, for starters). Kulukundis also has kept that written speeding warning as a memento of her unlikely path to -- who knows? -- "a little Daniel Day-Lewis waiting to happen."
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Post by: JG on December 23, 2007, 11:10:31 AM
the tv spots at the paramount vantage site are pretty great. does pta cut those too? 
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Post by: Astrostic on December 23, 2007, 05:00:41 PM
the music in the trailers was in the film, but not on the soundtrack.  it's too bad, because it's one of my favorites pieces from the film.
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Post by: noyes on December 23, 2007, 08:28:35 PM
Quote from: Astrostic on December 23, 2007, 05:00:41 PM
the music in the trailers was in the film, but not on the soundtrack.  it's too bad, because it's one of my favorites pieces from the film.

yeah, i thought Convergence was going to be on the soundtrack as well. worked amazingly in the movie.
oh well.
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Post by: squints on December 23, 2007, 08:57:01 PM
GOD DAMMIT! i'd just like to say that i'd KILL to see this movie. I say that a lot. but this time i'm serious. Who wants to die? I want to see this so bad i'm considering a pirated screener.


its not worth it is it?
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Post by: md on December 23, 2007, 09:56:30 PM
resist the urge.  you deserve better than that. 
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 24, 2007, 02:23:59 AM
'Into the Wild,' 'There Will Be Blood' explore Earth as paradise lost and found
By Reed Johnson, Los Angeles Times

**SPOILERS**

EDEN is burning. The third rock from the sun is heating up, and the garden of the American imagination is on fire with scorched-earth imagery, four-alarm prophesies of doom and the growing cult of "sustainable" consumerism.

Frito-Lay boasts about making "carbon-neutral" potato chips. Bookstore shelves sag with titles such as "The Virtuous Consumer" and -- groan -- "Sustainable Living for Dummies."

Think all this started with Al Gore and his inconvenient Nobel Peace Prize? Think again.

The planetary and human costs of overconsumption reemerged as a major cultural theme this year, but it's an idea with deep roots in the national psyche, as evidenced by two of the year's best films: Sean Penn's "Into the Wild" and Paul Thomas Anderson's "There Will Be Blood."

Neither of these thoughtful, passionately crafted movies imparts any sort of crude "eco-friendly" message. Yet both explore the notion of America (and, by extension, Earth) as a former paradise under siege.

That idea is as venerable and loamy as the banks of Walden Pond, and it raises the same question for us that it did for Henry David Thoreau when he took up roost in his handmade cabin in the Massachusetts woods in 1845.

Is it desirable, or possible, to turn our backs on modern life and retreat into blissful Transcendentalist solitude, communing with flora and fauna? Should our goal be to banish humanity and return "the planet as close as possible to the Garden of Eden," as the radical Voluntary Human Extinction Movement proposes? Or should we admit that the utopian garden is long gone, and that in order to reconnect with nature (let alone save it) we must confront the destructive forces within ourselves?

"Into the Wild" and "There Will Be Blood" probe deeply into these themes and are serendipitous companion pieces. "Into the Wild" is a lyrical psychological portrait of an idealistic young man, Christopher Johnson McCandless, who tried to turn himself into a modern-day American Adam by dropping off the consumer-conformist treadmill but paid a fatal price for underestimating Mother Nature's mean streak.

"There Will Be Blood" presents a bleaker, more disturbing profile of the fictional Daniel Plainview, an oil driller ferociously played by Daniel Day-Lewis, a classic American, rugged individualist whose fanatical pursuit of wealth and power leaves a black stain on everything he touches. Although "Into the Wild" reflects our preferred national self-image as earnest, well-meaning Thoreau-ians, American economic history is also personified by the single-minded Plainview.

Spiritual journey

ADAPTED by Penn and Jon Krakauer from Krakauer's 1996 bestseller, "Into the Wild" recounts the true story of McCandless, a.k.a. Alexander Supertramp, a quixotic college grad from a well-off family who in the early 1990s disappeared into the Alaskan outback.

The movie celebrates the uncompromising integrity and Emersonian self-reliance of its hero, compellingly portrayed by actor Emile Hirsch. But it also questions whether McCandless' tragic end -- dying of starvation, alone and hallucinating -- is necessarily the best way to serve mankind or attain harmony with Mother Earth.

Though raised in affluent D.C. suburbia, McCandless could have stepped out of a 19th century German bildungsroman, a high-minded wanderer in the wilderness of his own tortured conscience. Disillusioned with what he saw as a soul-dead, consumerist society, McCandless turned to nature in search of spiritual transcendence.

This idea of retreating to wide open spaces in order to purge yourself of civilization and its discontented (and in McCandless' case, to escape your bickering parents as well) echoes through American culture (Walt Whitman, Huck Finn, Jack London, "On the Road") and reflects a very American belief that virtuous living is akin to self-realization. As the wife says to her husband in a recent New Yorker cartoon, "Yoga made you cranky, meditation made you anxious, but driving the hybrid you have found yourself, Walter."

But "Into the Wild" also serves as a cautionary tale about the folly of saving your soul by turning your back on mankind (and common sense). McCandless' tendency to treat life as if it were an extreme sport is contrasted with the lives of other characters in the film who seem to have found more temperate, manageable approaches to surviving off the grid.

Thoreau was one of McCandless' idols, but as Rebecca Solnit points out in her just-published essay collection, "Storming the Gates of Paradise -- Landscapes for Politics," Thoreau wasn't urging his fellow Americans simply to drop out of the human race and go pick berries. The author of "Walden" was also the author of "Civil Disobedience," a supporter of abolitionism who went to jail rather than pay taxes to support what he believed was an immoral war with Mexico.

Unlike McCandless, Thoreau was no babe in the forest. "To be in the woods," Solnit writes of Thoreau's philosophy, "was not to be out of society or politics."

Capitalist quandary

"INTO the Wild" belongs to a cinematic genre of Eco-Conscious Social Misfit movies that includes "Never Cry Wolf," "Dances With Wolves" and "Cast Away." "There Will Be Blood" fits in a separate but parallel line of literary and cinematic narratives ("Moby Dick," "Citizen Kane," "Chinatown") about the rapacity of capitalism run amok and ruthless, brilliant men (Capt. Ahab, Charles Foster Kane, Noah Cross) hell-bent on remaking the world in their own image, whatever the cost in natural resources or lives.

Just as the landscapes of "Into the Wild" mirror McCandless' mental states -- rapturous and Elysian, though filled with hazard -- the cheerless, unforgiving Western landscapes of "Blood" reflect the harsh, utilitarian personality of the aptly named Plainview.

The most radical aspect of "There Will Be Blood" is the way it depicts the twin U.S. belief systems of material progress and spiritual salvation as smoke screens for hucksterism and exploitation. The two slippery, intertwined personalities at the film's center -- the brutal oilman and his rival, grasping, egotistical minister Eli Sunday (Paul Dano) -- are presented as dark, dueling alter egos.

Outwardly charming and smooth-talking, Plainview (who was modeled after L.A. oil tycoon Edward Doheny) purports to offer financial deliverance to the dirt-farming rubes whose scrubland he cons them into selling at rock-bottom prices. Sunday claims the power to save souls by driving out the devil from his gullible parishioners. Yet he makes his own deal with the devil by cooperating with Plainview in hopes that the oilman will use some of his ill-gotten gains to build a new church.

Neither nature nor human nature, as Plainview and the preacher regard them, are at all idyllic. Rather, both men see these twin "natures" as out-of-control, ungodly. Only through sweat, sacrifice and ingenuity, the men preach in their different ways, can these primitive forces be tamed. But in the end both men, and by analogy America, are corrupted by the drive for profit, delivering destruction instead of redemption.

"There Will Be Blood" was loosely inspired by the 1927 novel "Oil!" by Upton Sinclair, the muckraking author, Socialist and failed candidate for California governor in 1934, and bears traces of his worldview. Given current events in Iraq, Venezuela and elsewhere, the movie's skepticism toward petrol-based populism certainly doesn't have to strain for relevance.

But you have to dig below Anderson's mesmerizing visuals -- a towering oil well gushing like some great, evil god; blood pooling in a bowling alley -- to grasp the thematic audacity of "Blood."

When the Puritans landed in the New World, their Calvinist souls recoiled from the vast wilderness surrounding them, which they equated with the devil and the heathen Indian "savages." (See Nathaniel Hawthorne's short story "Young Goodman Brown" for details.) So they set out to subdue and, if necessary, destroy nature in the name of building civilization.

Those tendencies have provoked a cultural reaction encompassing everything from the 19th century Hudson River School of painting and the Earth Art movement of the 1970s to "Silent Spring" and Dr. Seuss' "The Lorax" to the hippie-orgiastic-communitarian "happening" of Woodstock. There always has been a spiritual, even religious dimension to America's green movement, fused with images of a lost Eden. As Joni Mitchell wrote in her musical homage to that rock 'n' roll hoedown on Max Yasgur's farm, "we've got to get ourselves back to the garden."

But this idealized picture of a bucolic past may prevent us from dealing with the complex present reality of acid rain, drowning polar bears, Chinese coal-burning plants and record droughts in Arizona and the Amazon. In the 19th century, artists such as Frederick Edwin Church and Albert Bierstadt painted romanticized American landscapes aglow with divine light, airbrushing out the railroads and deforestation that already were ransacking the country.

As the contemporary landscapes of photographer Richard Misrach show us, even a tainted nature, strewn with smokestacks and test-bombing ranges, can be majestic, mysterious, fertile with meaning.

Journalist Alan Weisman captures this bittersweet paradox near the end of his book "The World Without Us," which imagines how long it would take for the Earth to heal itself if human beings suddenly disappeared. Though cleverly disguised as a sci-fi/disaster scenario, the book is really a passionate moral cry not to give into the false comfort of imagining that we can recover an ecological Age of Innocence.

"The vision of a world relieved of our burden, with its flora and fauna blossoming wildly and wonderfully in every direction, is initially seductive," Weisman writes. "Yet it's quickly followed by a stab of bereavement over the loss of all the wonder that humans have wrought amid our harm and excess."

"There Will Be Blood" powerfully instructs us about how the American Eden got sub-parceled and sold off in the first place. "Into the Wild" poignantly asks if it's possible to get off the grid and live on the edge, without falling into the abyss. In the decades ahead, as another bard of the deep American interior, Robert Frost, once observed, the road we choose to take will make all the difference.
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iW PROFILE | "There Will Be Blood" Director Paul Thomas Anderson
by Eugene Hernandez (December 24, 2007)

Sitting down with indieWIRE earlier this month in New York City for a one-on-one conversation about "There Will Be Blood," the exceptional new film that dominated iW's 2007 film critics' poll, American auteur Paul Thomas Anderson caught a first glimpse of Upton Sinclair's re-issued 1920s novel, "Oil!" resting on a small table nearby. Examining the book's cover, he groused briefly about the need to place an image of Daniel Day-Lewis on the front of the book, explaining that he had intially hoped the promotional item could be re-released with that same simple cover that first caught his eye in a London bookstore years ago. Picking up the book back in Britain started him on the long journey to making his epic new film.

Sinclair's novel is at the core of "There Will Be Blood," its script loosely adapted by P.T. Anderson from essentially the book's first 150 pages or so. But, to flesh out his story about the emergence of a powerful California oil baron who f inds himself at odds with a skillful young preacher leading a growing congregation, Anderson spent years immersing himself in the history of oil in America, studying photographs and visiting numerous museums dedicated to the subject. He also relied on Margaret Leslie Davis' biography of infamous oil tycoon Edward Doheny, The Dark Side of Fortune. Anderson's rich story -- opening in limited release on Wednesday, Dec. 26th -- examines a dynamic intersection of oil and religion, family and greed, driven by capitalism and corruption. Connections to America one hundred years later are subtle but striking.

With dollar signs in his eyes, "There Will Be Blood"'s Daniel Plainview (Day-Lewis) travels with his young son H.W. (Dillon Freasier) to Central California in search of oil riches. In the modest, dusty town of Little Boston, they settle on the ranch of a local family living atop what may be an ocean of black gold. Equally ambitious and opportunistic is the family's eldest son, emerging Pentecostal evangelist Eli Sunday (Paul Dano), who quickly finds himself competing with Plainview for the hearts and minds of the townspeople.

Asked about some of his cinematic influences, during a Q & A with noted critic Annette Insdorf along with Daniel Day-Lewis last week at New York City's 92 Street Y, Anderson cited both John Huston's 1948 film "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" and George Stevens' 1956 film, "Giant." Huston's own voice may have inadvertently permeated the character created by Day-Lewis for the film. An even stronger link is the fact that Anderson filmed "Blood" in Marfa, TX where "Giant" was shot.

While struggling with the screenply for "There Will Be Blood," Anderson said that he came across "Sierra Madre," admiring the "economy" with which the story was told. Calling the film a "buoy in the night," he said, "I needed a foothold and when I came across it again, it was a lifesaver."

in conversations about his new film, Paul Thomas Anderson has emphasized the collaboration that drove the film. Settling comfortably into an old-fashioned armchair for the indieWIRE interview, he offered background on "Blood," discussing his work with some of the movie's key collaborators, including lead actor Daniel Day-Lewis, production designer Jack Fisk (a regular collaborator with Terrence Malick), frequent Robert Altman editor Dylan Tichenor, cinematographer Robert Elswit, who has worked with Anderson on all of his films, and first-time film composer Jonny Greenwood from Radiohead. The film was produced by Anderson's regular partners JoAnne Sellar and Daniel Lupi.

For his California story, P.T. Anderson wanted to shoot the film in his home state, but couldn't find the right undeveloped landscape. Looking for, "what Bakersfield would have looked like before the discovery of oil," he ended up in West Texas. Detailing the importance of the setting, Anderson recalled walking around the 50,000 acre Marfa ranch they found, literally planning where to build his town, surveying the land and nailing a stake with a red flag into the ground when he decided where to construct houses, a church and an oil derrick for the town of Little Boston. The ranch even had requisite train tracks. With the exception of the derrick, the structures -- erected over the course of three months -- still stand, and were constructed as four-sided, actual buildings, rather than movie set facades.

P.T. Anderson, who exudes confidence first and foremost as a writer, explained that he was still working on the unfinished screenplay for "There Will Be Blood" when Daniel Day-Lewis signed onto the project. In the two years before production actually commenced, the director recalled an initial resistance upon receiving a tape of Day Lewis performing his distinctive character. He eventually came around.

"It was terrifying, even as much as I looked forward to working with Daniel and trust [him]...," Anderson recalled about bringing Day-Lewis into the process, Once the actors and others were on board, P.T.A. explained that he had to take off his writer's hat and focus only on orchestrating the execution of his script. The process begins and ends with the writing, Anderson noted in an interview with Charlie Rose last week, explaining that if the script is good, directing can be easy. But once he and his collaborators are on set, "The writer really gets left at the door," he added, because, "nine times out of ten, [any] problems are with the writing."

Reflecting on his recent work as the stand-in director for major filmic influence Robert Altman on the set of the maverick's final film, "A Prairie Home Companion," Anderson told indieWIRE that he learned to "hold onto stuff" and not always give his collaborators the immediate answers they desired. Sometimes not answering their questions resulted in the best results, he found. But, in the conversation with iW, and then again the next night during the lengthy Q & A alongside Daniel Day-Lewis, P.T. Anderson reflected on that "terrifying baton hand off" that took place when he began to bring people into the world he was imagining.

A good example of that came near the end of the process when Anderson developed the music for the movie. A key element that literally sets the tone for his film is Jonny Greenwood's evocative score that opens the movie with an extended high pitched blare, jolting the viewer from the get go. The music carries the viewer through an extended, otherwise silent sequence depicting Plainview's early efforts to find oil. A bit tentative initially, Greenwood went away to create music, ultimately delivering two hours of work for the picture.

Concluding the conversation with indieWIRE, Anderson marveled at the arc of of a project like "There Will Be Blood" that began with his solitary period as a writer, grew to include the many collaborators and then, once shooting was complete, left the film in the hands of just a few people. He said that structure reminds him of the shape of a Christmas tree.

"You know, when you're making a film you start with all these collaborators," Anderson said in notes on the film, "And in the end you come down to just three people - the director, the composer and the editor -- holding this work together."
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Post by: Stefen on December 24, 2007, 03:24:49 PM
Is there a screener out?
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Post by: The Red Vine on December 25, 2007, 04:27:59 PM
EDIT: HUGE SPOILERS!



I found a 1 star review from RT.


THERE WILL BE BLOOD

Directed by Paul Thomas Anderson
Paramount Vantage
R - some violence

Aiming to make a big impression with a powerful message about American greed and violence, director Paul Thomas Anderson has made a one-note movie that loses its energy early on and never recovers. The story is loosely based on a small segment of a 1927 novel by Upton Sinclair. No doubt Anderson was fascinated by the portrait of the twin engines of America as represented by two characters: a driven and selfish oil man who hates everybody and a young minister whose fundamentalist Christianity emphasizes the sins of humankind.

In a very slow start, we meet Daniel Plainview (Daniel Day Lewis) in 1898 scrounging around in a cave looking for silver and gold. Years later, he has made a name for himself as a very successful oil man. We see him making a pitch to a crowd of landowners with his son H.W. (Dillon Freasier), the orphan of a worker killed in a mine accident. He uses the kid to prove that he is a family man. Plainview believes that greed is good (as if we've never heard that one before) and will do anything to achieve his goals. Thanks to a tip, he is able to purchase some valuable property that is awash with the black gold. He has no qualms about taking advantage of the owner of the land and not paying him a fair price.

It is in this community that H.W. loses his hearing and is banished by his father to a school far away. Plainview finds an adversary in Eli Sunday (Paul Dano), a young Christian preacher who has an ego as big as his own and also wants to be center stage. Eli builds a large church in the wilderness and expects Plainview to contribute to his work.

Henry (Kevin J. O'Connor) arrives one day claiming to be Daniel's half-brother and replaces H.W. in meetings with new clients. Plainview confides in him saying "I hate most people. I want to earn enough money so I can get away from everyone." Meant to be the closest thing to a personal confession, it falls flat given all the evidence we've already seen to prove that Plainview is a mean, angry, and violent man who has no interest in anyone except himself.

Anderson wants us to recognize in the portraits of Plainview and Sunday a troubling image of what is wrong with America. But the director's message gets lost in the excruciatingly long and repetitious drama that leads to a sickening and senseless act of violence that reminds one of Scorsese's "Gangs of New York" (complete with a character's head being bashed in like a pumpkin). "There Will Be Blood" also features the worst score of the year by Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood. It is a constant irritant.

Reviewed by Frederic and Mary Ann Brussat
Rating: 1/5  

edit: how the fuck could you post this without a spoiler warning??
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Post by: pete on December 25, 2007, 05:29:50 PM
any critic too quick to point out whatever political allegory they see is suspect.
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Post by: Ravi on December 25, 2007, 08:36:10 PM
Another reminder, the theaters for the December 29 midnight screenings are listed at http://www.therewillbeblood.com .
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Post by: Pubrick on December 25, 2007, 08:38:13 PM
listen up idiots.

if you post a review with a huge fucking spoiler then mark it as having HUGE FUCKING SPOILERS.,

you really gotta be a fucking idiot to post shit here without spoiler warnings. i don't care if you cut yourself over this, TheRedVine. merry xmas.
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 25, 2007, 09:41:44 PM
An intense actor and director make for a fiery combination in 'Blood.'
By Kenneth Turan, Los Angeles Times

**READ AT OWN RISK**

"THERE Will Be Blood," the joint venture between actor Daniel Day-Lewis and director Paul Thomas Anderson, might be the most incendiary combination since the Molotov cocktail. Though it can be over the top and excessive, this morality play set in the early days of California's oil boom also creates considerable heat and light and does some serious aesthetic damage.

Aside from exceptional talent and triple-decker names, Day-Lewis and Anderson share a ferocity of approach to their work, investing so much intensity in the projects they choose that they don't choose very many: "Blood" is the actor's fourth film in the last decade and the director's second in the last eight years.
 
Anderson, a modern cinematic visionary, is always happiest when he is out on the aesthetic edge, determined to involve audiences in disturbing, difficult narratives, from the suburban pornographers of "Boogie Nights" to "Magnolia's" raining frogs.

As for Day-Lewis, he has become justifiably celebrated for disappearing into his characters with a completeness that is both terrifying and an ideal match for Anderson's filmmaking approach. "People don't know how Daniel can do this job the way that he does it," the director has tellingly said, "and my feeling is, I just can't understand how anyone could do it any other way."

The story that has intrigued these two men started with a venerable source, Upton Sinclair's muckraking 1927 novel "Oil!" The book, however, has a really minimal, almost "suggested by" relationship to what's on the screen, which turns out to be a distinctly timely and modern tale, albeit one with problematic aspects, that involves the unholy trinity of oil, money and religion.

For Anderson, who has reveled in multi-strand stories, this has been a chance to venture into, in his own words, "100% straightforward old-fashioned storytelling." With this filmmaker, however, nothing is ever really old-fashioned or straightforward, and there is enough savagery, extremism and grotesque violence in the way "Blood" unfolds to unsettle most folk.

Making "Blood's" story even more disturbing is the troubling score by Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood, powerful, brooding new music that is critical to the film's impact, creating pervasive uneasiness and letting us know that, appearances to the contrary, we're not watching a conventional story.

It helps, of course, to have someone of Day-Lewis' trademark fierceness and implacability as protagonist Daniel Plainview, whom we follow from his turn-of-the-20th-century beginnings as a silver miner to a finale nearly 30 years later.

Day-Lewis works at such a high-wire level that many of the film's supporting cast members simply fade away. Only the self-possessed newcomer Dillon Freasier as his young son H.W. and the gifted Paul Dano of "Little Miss Sunshine" as his nemesis have the ability to hold the screen against him.

Marvelously photographed by Anderson veteran Robert Elswit largely around Marfa, Texas (where "Giant" was shot), "There Will Be Blood" is western to its core, presenting a vast, uncaring environment that dwarfs the grasping men who are determined to wrest hidden wealth from the earth. Anderson has said that "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre," John Huston's treatise on madness and greed, was a touchstone movie for him in shooting, and it's easy to see why.

After preliminary, almost wordless sequences convincingly establishing the world of turn-of-the-last-century oil prospecting, "Blood" begins in earnest with Day-Lewis' Plainview persuasively addressing a group of citizens whose oil he wants to drill for.

He's an oilman, he says in an almost melodic voice, not a speculator, and, grandly introducing the 10-year-old H.D. as "my son and my partner," he also claims to offer "the bond of family." Convincing and compelling as all this is, there are hints of other traits in Plainview, intimations of a frighteningly indomitable man you trifle with at your own peril.

With the original Upton Sinclair "Oil!" said to be based on the Signal Hill oil strike outside of Long Beach, the largest part of "There Will Be Blood" takes place around a similar huge strike near the fictional California town of Little Boston. Plainview goes there on a tip, and the film shows what transpires as he attempts to consolidate control over the vast oil fields he discovers. It is not a pretty picture.

For as he works to gain power, Plainview turns into God's wrath, or the devil's. He engages in ferocious battles with all comers, even his son, but his most bitter fight is with young Eli Sunday (the smoothly effective Dano), a charismatic preacher and faith healer and founder of Little Boston's Church of the Third Revelation. On a personal level, Sunday is no more godly than Plainview, and their psychological and even physical combat is savagery itself.

Though he starts out almost likable, as Plainview stores up hatreds and animosities over the years, his coldness and arrogance become more visible and his indifference to and contempt for humanity grows exponentially. This, "There Will Be Blood" is in part saying, is what we do to ourselves when, as either business or religious leaders, we deny the humanity in us and overvalue wealth and power.

This study of rapacious, uncaring capitalism points up the uncertain philosophical legacy of the original novel, for where "Blood" shows its limitations is in the realm of subtleties of character development.

It's important to remember that Sinclair was as much a committed socialist as a novelist, someone who probably wrote for political purpose more than for dramatic effect. So while Day-Lewis' gorgeous acting largely disguises it, the people in "Blood" tend to be schematic and the film as a whole has a weakness for the didactic. In its willingness to push everything, even personality, to extremes, this is a film with the defects of its virtues, so it's fortunate that those virtues are very great indeed.
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 26, 2007, 12:09:03 AM
Movie Review
There Will Be Blood (2007)
By MANOHLA DARGIS; New York Times

**SPOILERS**

"There Will Be Blood," Paul Thomas Anderson's epic American nightmare, arrives belching fire and brimstone and damnation to Hell. Set against the backdrop of the Southern California oil boom of the late-19th and early-20th centuries, it tells a story of greed and envy of biblical proportions — reverberating with Old Testament sound and fury and New Testament evangelicalism — which Mr. Anderson has mined from Upton Sinclair's 1927 novel "Oil!" There is no God but money in this oil-rich desert and his messenger is Daniel Plainview, a petroleum speculator played by a monstrous and shattering Daniel Day-Lewis.

Plainview is an American primitive. He's more articulate and civilized than the crude, brutal title character in Frank Norris's 1899 novel "McTeague," and Erich von Stroheim's masterly version of the same, "Greed." But the two characters are brothers under the hide, coarse and animalistic, sentimental in matters of love and ruthless in matters of avarice. Mr. Anderson opens his story in 1898, closer to Norris's novel than Sinclair's, which begins in the years leading up to World War I. And the film's opener is a stunner — spooky and strange, blanketed in shadows and nearly wordless. Inside a deep, dark hole, a man pickaxes the hard-packed soil like a bug gnawing through dirt. This is the earth mover, the ground shaker: Plainview.

Over the next two and a half mesmerizing hours Plainview will strike oil, then strike it rich and transform a bootstrapper's dream into a terrifying prophecy about the coming American century. It's a century he plunges into slicked in oil, dabbed with blood and accompanied by H. W. (eventually played by the newcomer Dillon Freasier), the child who enters his life in 1902 after he makes his first strike and seems to have burbled from the ground like the liquid itself. The brief scenes of Plainview's first tender, awkward moments with H. W. will haunt the story. In one of the most quietly lovely images in a film of boisterous beauty, he gazes at the tiny, pale toddler, chucking him under the chin as they sit on a train very much alone.

"There Will Be Blood" involves a tangle of relationships, mainly intersecting sets of fathers and sons and pairs of brothers. (Like most of the finest American directors working now, Mr. Anderson makes little on-screen time for women.) But it is Plainview's intense, needful bond with H. W. that raises the stakes and gives enormous emotional force to this expansively imagined period story with its pictorial and historical sweep, its raging fires, geysers of oil and inevitable blood. (Rarely has a film's title seemed so ominous.) By the time H. W. is about 10, he has become a kind of partner to his father, at once a child and a sober little man with a jacket and neatly combed hair who dutifully stands by Plainview's side as quiet as his conscience.

A large swath of the story takes place in 1911, by which point Plainview has become a successful oilman with his own fast-growing company. Flanked by the watchful H. W., he storms through California, sniffing out prospects and trying to persuade frenzied men and women to lease their land for drilling. (H. W. gives Plainview his human mask: "I'm a family man," he proclaims to perspective leasers.) One day a gangling, unsmiling young man, Paul Sunday (Paul Dano), arrives with news that oil is seeping out of the ground at his family's ranch. The stranger sells this information to Plainview, who promptly sets off with H. W. to a stretch of California desert where oil puddles the ground among the cactus, scrub and human misery.

Not long afterward oil is gushing out of that desert. The eruption rattles both the earth and the local population, whom Plainview soothes with promises. Poor, isolated, thirsting for water (they don't have enough even to grow wheat), the dazed inhabitants gaze at the oilman like hungry baby birds. (Their barren town is oddly named Little Boston.) He promises schools, roads and water, delivering his sermon with a carefully enunciated, sepulchral voice that Mr. Day-Lewis seems to have largely borrowed from the director John Huston. Plainview is preaching a new gospel, though one soon challenged by another salesman, Paul Sunday's Holy Roller brother, Eli (also Mr. Dano). A charismatic preacher looking to build a new church, Eli slithers into the story, one more snake in the desert.

Mr. Anderson has always worn his influences openly, cribbing from Martin Scorsese and Robert Altman among others (he helped the ailing Altman with his final film, "A Prairie Home Companion"), but rarely has his movie love been as organically integrated into his work as it is here. Movie history weighs on every filmmaker, informs every cut, camera angle and movement. "There Will Be Blood" is very much a personal endeavor for Mr. Anderson; it feels like an act of possession. Yet it is also directly engaged with our cinematically constructed history, specifically with films — "Greed" and "Chinatown," but also "Citizen Kane" — that have dismantled the mythologies of American success and, in doing so, replaced one utopian ideal for another, namely that of the movies themselves.

This is Mr. Anderson's fifth feature and it proves a breakthrough for him as a filmmaker. Although there are more differences than similarities between it and the Sinclair book, the novel has provided him with something he has lacked in the past, a great theme. It may also help explain the new film's narrative coherence. His first feature, "Sydney" (also known as "Hard Eight"), showed Mr. Anderson to be an intuitively gifted filmmaker, someone who was born to make images with a camera. His subsequent features — "Boogie Nights," "Magnolia" and "Punch-Drunk Love" — have ambition and flair, though to increasingly diminished ends. Elliptical, self-conscious, at times multithreaded, they contain passages of clarity and brilliance. But in their escalating stylization you feel the burdens of virtuosity, originality, independence.

"There Will Be Blood" exhibits much the same qualities as Mr. Anderson's previous work — every shot seems exactly right — but its narrative form is more classical and less weighted down by the pressures of self-aware auteurism. It flows smoothly, linearly, building momentum and unbearable tension. Mr. Day-Lewis's outsize performance, with its footnote references to Huston and strange, contorted Kabuki-like grimaces, occasionally breaks the skin of the film's surface like a dangerous undertow. The actor seems to have invaded Plainview's every atom, filling an otherwise empty vessel with so much rage and purpose you wait for him to blow. It's a thrilling performance, among the greatest I've seen, purposefully alienating and brilliantly located at the juncture between cinematic realism and theatrical spectacle.

This tension between realism and spectacle runs like a fissure through the film and invests it with tremendous unease. You are constantly being pulled away from and toward the charismatic Plainview, whose pursuit of oil reads like a chapter from this nation's grand narrative of discovery and conquest. His 1911 strike puts the contradictions of this story into graphic, visual terms. Mr. Anderson initially thrusts you close to the awesome power of the geyser, which soon bursts into flames, then pulls back for a longer view, his sensuously fluid camera keeping pace with Plainview and his men as they race about trying to contain what they've unleashed. But the monster has been uncorked. The black billowing smoke pours into the sky, and there it will stay.

With a story of and for our times, "There Will Be Blood" can certainly be viewed through the smeary window that looks onto the larger world. It's timeless and topical, general and specific, abstract and as plain as the name of its fiery oilman. It's an origin story of sorts. The opening images of desert hills and a droning electronic chord allude to the beginning of "2001: A Space Odyssey," whose murderous apes are part of a Darwinian continuum with Daniel Plainview. But the film is above all a consummate work of art, one that transcends the historically fraught context of its making, and its pleasures are unapologetically aesthetic. It reveals, excites, disturbs, provokes, but the window it opens is to human consciousness itself.
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Post by: martinthewarrior on December 26, 2007, 01:31:43 AM
Of all the nights for my credit card to be fucked up! Chicago! Oh jesus, oh God! I hope there are still tickets tomorrow. Fuck. Damn. Yowza.


Sob.
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Post by: JG on December 26, 2007, 08:43:20 AM
Darghis's review is the ultimate hype machine.  Here are some non-spoiler highlights for those of you who are scared to read these reviews (i don't blame you):

Mr. Anderson has always worn his influences openly, cribbing from Martin Scorsese and Robert Altman among others (he helped the ailing Altman with his final film, "A Prairie Home Companion"), but rarely has his movie love been as organically integrated into his work as it is here. Movie history weighs on every filmmaker, informs every cut, camera angle and movement. "There Will Be Blood" is very much a personal endeavor for Mr. Anderson; it feels like an act of possession. Yet it is also directly engaged with our cinematically constructed history, specifically with films — "Greed" and "Chinatown," but also "Citizen Kane" — that have dismantled the mythologies of American success and, in doing so, replaced one utopian ideal for another, namely that of the movies themselves.

This is Mr. Anderson's fifth feature and it proves a breakthrough for him as a filmmaker. Although there are more differences than similarities between it and the Sinclair book, the novel has provided him with something he has lacked in the past, a great theme. It may also help explain the new film's narrative coherence. His first feature, "Sydney" (also known as "Hard Eight"), showed Mr. Anderson to be an intuitively gifted filmmaker, someone who was born to make images with a camera. His subsequent features — "Boogie Nights," "Magnolia" and "Punch-Drunk Love" — have ambition and flair, though to increasingly diminished ends. Elliptical, self-conscious, at times multithreaded, they contain passages of clarity and brilliance. But in their escalating stylization you feel the burdens of virtuosity, originality, independence.

"There Will Be Blood" exhibits much the same qualities as Mr. Anderson's previous work — every shot seems exactly right — but its narrative form is more classical and less weighted down by the pressures of self-aware auteurism. It flows smoothly, linearly, building momentum and unbearable tension. Mr. Day-Lewis's outsize performance, with its footnote references to Huston and strange, contorted Kabuki-like grimaces, occasionally breaks the skin of the film's surface like a dangerous undertow. The actor seems to have invaded Plainview's every atom, filling an otherwise empty vessel with so much rage and purpose you wait for him to blow. It's a thrilling performance, among the greatest I've seen, purposefully alienating and brilliantly located at the juncture between cinematic realism and theatrical spectacle.

With a story of and for our times, "There Will Be Blood" can certainly be viewed through the smeary window that looks onto the larger world. It's timeless and topical, general and specific, abstract and as plain as the name of its fiery oilman. It's an origin story of sorts. But the film is above all a consummate work of art, one that transcends the historically fraught context of its making, and its pleasures are unapologetically aesthetic. It reveals, excites, disturbs, provokes, but the window it opens is to human consciousness itself.
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Post by: Stefen on December 26, 2007, 10:29:26 AM
Has anybody downloaded the DVD screener that was released today? I'm hesitant.
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Post by: md on December 26, 2007, 11:39:51 AM
Its funny that the 1 star reviewer had a writing partner.  "Add this, hun.  I'll write the first paragraph, you write the second one and so on; we'll see how bad we can paint this picture..." 15 minutes later "hey hunny, I'm starving, lets go to kfc...fuck the review...the movie sucked anyways.  Just make sure to bring the pan flute music for the car ride. Yanni makes me hungry"

Darghis lost me after the fine directors of today show little on screen time for women. 

And Stef, hit the showers man, make sure its extra cold.
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Post by: Sleepless on December 26, 2007, 01:03:33 PM
Got my tickets for Saturday  :yabbse-grin: How happy am I?
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Post by: tpfkabi on December 26, 2007, 01:04:39 PM
word on the street aka imdb is that it will expand to 800 theatres mid January...
no source cited.
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Post by: md on December 26, 2007, 01:17:46 PM
i'd sure hope so.
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 26, 2007, 02:58:34 PM
**READ AT OWN RISK**


QuotePaul Thomas Anderson has made the tracking shot a trademark of his, particularly in "Boogie Nights" (1997) and "Magnolia" (1999). His new, acclaimed "There Will Be Blood" is shot in a different style, but does contain one shot where the camera tracks Daniel Day-Lewis's character carrying his injured child.

"It's only impressive because Daniel could actually carry that boy for that long," joked Anderson in an interview.

The director, a great fan and friend to the late Altman, said a guiding ethos of is to have fewer cuts: "The more things can be condensed or simple is ideal," he said.

Discussing the appeal of the tracking shot, Anderson said: "You're after one thing, which is nice, as opposed to 10 or 15 small things when you have to chop it up. You get that terrific feeling at the end of it, like `We did it. We got it.' Or you don't."

Digital editing, Anderson said, has given him a new perspective on the length of his takes.

"You really see the length of your shots. It's kind of hilarious. You sort of look at the graph and it chops along, chops along, then flatlines for a long time. You see a movie as a graph."

Entire article on long tracking shots here:

http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=9729.msg256244#msg256244
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Post by: bonanzataz on December 26, 2007, 04:32:58 PM
WATCH AT OWN RISK

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2926199

10 minutes worth of clips from the movie. probably to be used for talk shows and shit.
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Post by: ©brad on December 26, 2007, 04:54:33 PM
Quote from: bonanzataz on December 26, 2007, 04:32:58 PM
DON'T WATCH AT OWN RISK BECAUSE IT'S DECEMBER 26TH AND YOU'RE SO CLOSE TO SEEING IT AND EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE BEEN INCESSANTLY SPOILED TO THE POINT WHERE YOU FEEL AS IF YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THE FUCKING THING YOU CAN STILL SALVAGE WHAT WILL BE A MOMENTOUS EXPERIENCE IN YOUR MOVIE-OBSESSED LIFE BY NOT WATCHING IT OR ANY OTHER CLIPS OR REVIEWS YOU STUMBLE UPON AND IF YOU'RE REALLY SMART YOU'LL GO AHEAD AND AVOID THE PAULTHOMASANDERSON FORUM ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, NOTHING IS SAFE

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Post by: cine on December 26, 2007, 04:55:37 PM
Quote from: bonanzataz on December 26, 2007, 04:32:58 PM
WATCH AT OWN RISK

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2926199

10 minutes worth of clips from the movie. probably to be used for talk shows and shit.

i'd say the first half of the clips are pretty harmless.. clips 4 and 6.. best to avoid those ones.


.. but nonetheless, cbrad's right.
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Post by: Stefen on December 26, 2007, 05:07:27 PM
This is one of the reasons I hate the internet. Especially now there there is a screener posted everywhere. Back before the internet, these things were probably easier to avoid. Was the term spoiler pre or post interweb?
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Post by: idk on December 26, 2007, 05:25:00 PM
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17620996

thats a story/interview with DDL, plus it has links to audio clips from the interview, i haven't read it so beware of possible spoilers.
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Post by: B.C. Long on December 26, 2007, 05:42:52 PM
Quote from: The Red Vine on December 25, 2007, 04:27:59 PM
"There Will Be Blood" also features the worst score of the year by Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood.

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Post by: matt35mm on December 26, 2007, 06:57:04 PM
So this was officially released today.  I happen to be in Orange County for the holidays, and shall trek up to L.A. tomorrow or Friday to see this at the Arclight.
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Post by: B.C. Long on December 26, 2007, 08:28:34 PM
typo?
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Post by: modage on December 26, 2007, 09:53:50 PM
i'm still in virginia with the family so it kills me a little bit not to be there on ppening day for a new PT film, regardless of having already seen it.  i did purchase tickets to see it tomorrow night at 10:30 after i get back into town even though it means dragging one of my old friends who is coming up to visit and his girlfriend.  it will be interesting to see what they make of it, but mostly i'm selfishly dragging them so i can see it again ASAP AND at my favorite screen in the city.
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Post by: meatwad on December 27, 2007, 08:39:40 AM
Lincoln Plaza is your favorite screen in the city?

or is it playing somewhere else that i'm not aware of?
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Post by: modage on December 27, 2007, 08:49:08 AM
theatre 1 at lincoln plaza is my favorite screen in the city. (saw PDL open there too.)
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 27, 2007, 11:01:23 AM
There Will Be Blood Review
Paul Thomas Anderson makes a film as distinctive and important as those by the directors who inspired him.
by Todd Gilchrist; IGN Movies

**READ AT OWN RISK**
 
December 26, 2007 - Immediately after watching There Will Be Blood, Paul Thomas Anderson's new film about a prospector searching for oil in turn-of-the-century Texas, my first thought was, "Wow. I didn't know Stanley Kubrick made movies any more." Notwithstanding the obvious fact that Kubrick is no longer with us, my casual joke proved ironic when I spoke to a few of my colleagues who confessed admiration for Anderson's work but worried that he would spend much of his career imitating other directors rather than simply distinguishing himself as a filmmaker.

In all honesty, I don't consider in any serious way for the style of Anderson's latest to be directly pilfered from Kubrick, nor do I see his other movies as derivative of the filmmakers -- Scorsese, Altman -- from whom he has admitted seeking inspiration. But There Will Be Blood is part of a larger cinematic tradition than most movies in that it reveals a genuine genius at work, an artist in his wheelhouse without regard for the commercial repercussions of following that impulse. A film of staggering ambition, epic scope and yet remarkable, subtle insight, There Will Be Blood is as defining a work as the most famous of any of those filmmakers mentioned above and one of the very best movies of 2007.

Daniel Day-Lewis plays Daniel Plainview, a prospector who after some difficulty manages to secure a thriving business drilling for oil. After losing one of his partners in a drilling accident, Plainview unofficially adopts the man's son H.W. (Dillon Freasier) and raises him as his own; in the meantime, he expands his empire by buying land around small towns and sucking them dry. But Plainview finds himself struggling to maintain control of a new find when he encounters Eli Sunday (Paul Dano), an ambitious minister who hopes to expand his congregation. Soon, the two men are locked into a battle of wills over control of the oil, falling into an increasingly dangerous game of one-upmanship that threatens to end in violence and self-destruction.

First (and foremost to get them out of the way), those elements that evoke the spirit, if not some of the visual style of Kubrick: Anderson's agile but frequently still camera; Jonny Greenwood's incendiary, sometimes Ligeti-like score; and the film's overall objective point of view and/or refusal to judge Plainview's behavior, no matter how bizarre or reprehensible it becomes. To say that Day-Lewis gives the performance of the year is virtually an understatement given its intensity and singularity; no actor comes close to the depths he lends to virtually any role, but here he reveals Plainview's scarred soul in the smallest of actions and with devastating impact. But like Malcolm MacDowell in A Clockwork Orange or even Jack Nicholson in The Shining, Day-Lewis isn't aiming as much for realistic as he is the all-important "interesting," and Anderson facilitates an environment in which his eccentricities flourish and appreciate.

But what's even more remarkable about the film is how Anderson tackles what purports to be its central subject: oil. Particularly in today's contentious political atmosphere, a film about the value of oil -- even in the context of a period piece -- seems ripe with opportunity for social commentary. Instead of even remotely exploiting the script's potential relevance -- borrowed loosely from Upton Sinclair's novel Oil! -- Anderson transforms the story into a searing character study, looking inside one man's ambition as it provides him with professional success but jeopardizes his personal happiness. There is a hugeness to the story, an epic quality that will no doubt leave many viewers breathless from the weight of the director's canvas, but ultimately the landscape that interests Anderson is not the barren Texas plains but Plainview's far more jagged psyche.

Further, Anderson's narrative and directorial choices resemble nothing so much as his previous films, eliminating claims that there is someone other than him at the helm defining the look and feel of There Will Be Blood. As with previous movies, Anderson writes dialogue that is direct, blindingly clear and yet deeply meaningful, and best of all in that way that reveals character without the characters themselves realizing it. Plainview of course gets the lion's share of the great lines, exuding cynicism and practicality in his pointed dealings with Eli and others, but overall there is both an acknowledgement of the theatricality of the film and a clear desire to function within the semblance of a real world (not to be confused with ours). When Plainview unceremoniously threatens another prospector and finds his sanity being questioned, for example, we both understand his excessively aggressive sentiment and his poor adversary's logical reaction.

Anderson's camerawork has also always distinguished him from his colleagues, and in this film he merges style and substance into one indelible package. (By comparison, as gorgeous and ambitious as were Anderson's shot-by-shot lens flares in Punch-Drunk Love, they seem to have less direct emotional connection to their respective scenes than to his efforts to explore the boundaries of conventional cinematography.) The first 10 to 15 minutes of the film, for example, are virtually dialogue-free, but it's only upon reflection after the fact that audiences will notice -- all of which is due to a series of dynamic but completely clear shots within and around Plainview's first oil derrick. Later, the film's biggest set piece involves an accident at Eli's claim, and Anderson follows the action -- both physically and emotionally -- from start to finish, revealing character as director of photography Robert Elswit (Michael Clayton, Magnolia) expertly navigates the literal landscape.

Of course, it seems as if I've spent the majority of this review defending Paul Thomas Anderson against a criticism that some viewers may not even notice, much less put forth. And personally, I'm not sure yet how I feel about the film's ending, which is at once a coda and catharsis for Plainview's story, but also a destructive departure from even the faintest hint of sympathy or identification with the character -- which, suffice it to say, is a no-no for most audiences. But there is a larger defense of Anderson's work that, as far as I'm concerned, answers just about any response one might have. Specifically, how many other filmmakers -- if any -- do moviegoers and critics find themselves deconstructing in the way that we do him? The answer is not many, and whether you love or hate him, think he's a singular visionary or standing on the shoulders of giants, that's an important distinction to note. In any case, There Will Be Blood is a brilliant film, a real, important work in a world that looks at art as a four-letter word, and another entry in a filmography that stands among the most important -- and yes, distinctive -- in modern movies.


Rating Info 4.5 out of 5 Stars | 9/10

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'There Will Be Blood': Bible Stories
The movie has problems, but Daniel Day-Lewis' seismic performance is reason enough to see it.
By Kurt Loder; MTV

**SPOILERS**

Paul Thomas Anderson's strange and feverish "There Will Be Blood" is so wonderful in parts — Daniel Day-Lewis' sensational lead performance, Jonny Greenwood's brilliantly counter-intuitive score and the bare-bones-and-boards production design of Jack Fisk — that watching it collapse in calamitous miscalculation at the end is singularly distressing.

The picture is set amid the California oil boom at the turn of the last century. Day-Lewis plays Daniel Plainview, an iron-willed prospector who strikes it rich and then, with his young adopted son (Dillon Freasier) in tow, sets out to build an empire by buying up land from under the spreading tentacles of the similarly rapacious Standard Oil Company. Plainview is a master of the honey-dripping business proposition (Day-Lewis appears to have modeled his vocal inflections on those of John Huston in 1974's "Chinatown," another California origin story). But in attempting to snooker the impoverished Sunday family out of its oil-rich ranch, he earns the enmity of young Eli Sunday (Paul Dano), a teen evangelist and budding fraud, who sees in Plainview a heaven-sent opportunity to finance the building of his own spiritual empire.

The movie resonates with our memories of old films like "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre," "Elmer Gantry" and, especially, "Citizen Kane." Unlike "Kane," though, it tells us nothing about what turned Daniel Plainview into the heartless sociopath that he is. He cheats and schemes and has only contempt for other people — even, in the end, his son, who has been his sole companion. (Has Plainview ever had a relationship with a woman? One brief scene suggests a brittle misogyny; but there are no significant female characters in the movie, and the subject is never probed.) Anderson's script — which is drawn very approximately from Upton Sinclair's 1927 novel, "Oil!" — presents Plainview as a Biblical force of nature, uncomplicated by human dimensions. This becomes problematic, though, when we are asked to contemplate the character's loss of his soul — we've been given no reason to suspect he had one in the first place.

Thus deprived of the possibility of plumbing any human emotional depths, Day-Lewis nevertheless barrels past the story's structural deficiencies with the hair-raising intensity of his performance. He conjures up Plainview's utter despicability — a cold-blooded predator cloaking himself in seductive moral homilies — with electrifying verve. Bestriding the picture's parched scrublands and primitive oil rigs in his high-button suits and patriarchal mustache, he's hypnotically persuasive as a vintage monster of avarice and duplicity. In comparison, Paul Dano, as his wheedling nemesis, Eli, is overmatched — with his unformed features and sometimes recessive delivery, he never quite comes into focus. But Dano plunges boldly into Eli's messianic rants, and his shifty watchfulness is memorable on a smaller scale.

You might expect a picture like this — a tale of late-frontier times — to be scored with banjos and pennywhistles. But Anderson made an audacious decision to have Jonny Greenwood, the classically trained Radiohead guitarist, write and record the film's soundtrack themes. The music is an orchestral wash of beautifully harmonized melodies spiked with thoroughly modern dissonance, and while it's a jarring accompaniment for some of the imagery, it stands on its own as a series of superbly astringent compositions. (The soundtrack is available on CD.)

"There Will Be Blood" may be Anderson's most ambitious movie, but it's not his best. Its most impressive element — the astonishing vitality of Day-Lewis' performance — appears to have led the director astray at crucial points. In two key scenes — an over-the-top church baptism and an off-the-rails confrontation between Plainview and Eli that ends the picture (and almost sinks it) — Anderson seems to have been so overawed by the actor's mastery that he abandoned control of the action and let Day-Lewis have free rein. The result is that rare dramatic flaw: too much of a good thing.
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Post by: ©brad on December 27, 2007, 11:19:59 AM
here's a pretty bad review from salon.com.

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"There Will Be Blood"

This sprawling, ambitious film strives for boldness yet rings with false humility.

By Stephanie Zacharek


Dec. 26, 2007 | Paul Thomas Anderson's "There Will Be Blood" is an austere folly, a picture so ambitious, so filled with filmmaking, that its very scale almost obscures its blankness. The source for Anderson's fifth picture is Upton Sinclair's 1927 novel "Oil!" which details how oil interests transformed the landscape of turn-of-the-century California. According to the movie's press notes, Anderson, homesick for the state in which he was born, found a copy of the novel in a London bookstore and was attracted first by its cover image and then by the story inside.

That's a lovely bit of lore, a poetic scrap of evidence of the way a book can seduce us with something as basic (and as superficial) as a cover and then draw us inside toward something deeper. Anderson -- who adapted the story himself -- may have loved "Oil!" But his love for the book doesn't burn in the picture he's made. "There Will Be Blood" is set in a suitably bleak landscape: It was shot in Marfa, Texas (the same town where "Giant" was filmed), as a stand-in for the young California, by the gifted cinematographer Robert Elswit, and his near success in turning this world of scrubby, modest bushes and blandly egotistical manmade oil derricks into something visually vital is testament to his devotion. The story -- which pits a ruthless, supposedly complex oilman named Daniel Plainview (Daniel Day-Lewis) against an equally megalomaniacal man of the cloth, Eli Sunday (Paul Dano) -- has the bare bones of a potentially compelling story about the nature of greed and of faith, or about how single-minded any man can be in the pursuit of his goals. As always, the power of even a great story depends on how you tell it.

And the telling is where Anderson and his actors fail. I wanted to love "There Will Be Blood," and I tried to, twice: Of all the young, or youngish, filmmakers working today, Anderson isn't the one who's shown the most promise -- he's the one who's delivered on promises he never even had to make. When he was just starting out as a filmmaker, Anderson dispensed with the usual coughing preamble; the assured understatement of his first picture, "Hard Eight," was enough to make you take notice. Instead of beginning his career by making a flawed movie or two that made you murmur, "Someday, this guy could be something," he burst through the gate as a filmmaker who valued emotional directness over mere flash. His movies haven't been perfect, but for the most part, they've been perfectly open. Echoing the stammering-confident boast of Warren Beatty's John McCabe in "McCabe and Mrs. Miller," the greatest film made by Anderson's spiritual predecessor, Robert Altman, Anderson said from the start, "I got poetry in me," and wasted no time proving it.

Some early reviews of "There Will Be Blood" have compared Anderson to Ford and Griffith, comparisons that are extremely flattering to a young director. But it's a bad idea to drape Anderson with the heavy mantle of that kind of greatness so early in his career, when his energy, his extraordinary rapport with actors, his willingness to take chances (even to the point of adapting long-forgotten American novels) are the strengths he should be grooving on. Anderson has already made a real epic with emotion, rather than might, on its side, in "Magnolia." An epic stands or falls on the strength of its emotional details, and by that measure, "There Will Be Blood," sprawling and grand as it tries to be, fails. "There Will Be Blood" only pretends to be elemental and raw: It's really tempered and wrought, to the point of dullness. It rings with false humility, something I never thought I'd see in an Anderson picture.

Day-Lewis' Daniel Plainview is a man whose unknowability is the point, which Anderson telegraphs in the movie's opening, a nearly wordless sequence showing us how Plainview, the future oil tycoon, began extracting his riches from the earth the hard way. The sequence is beautifully shot -- parts of it are boldly underlit so we're able to catch only glimpses of a character's movement in soft arcs of bluish light, a striking effect -- and it tells us more about the persistence and hardiness of Plainview's character than the movie's remaining two and a half hours do. We see him first as a young man, scrabbling inside a rocky hole in pursuit of a single rock speckled with silver; later, he seeks a more valuable commodity, oil, and the day he strikes it is also the day he becomes a father. With his son, H.W. (played by a marvelous child actor named Dillon Freasier, whose face offers more unvarnished expressiveness than anything else in the movie), as mascot and business partner, Plainview goes about building his empire, well by well. One day a stranger whose face has the bland flatness of a china plate steps into his office with a hot tip. The young man's name is Paul Sunday (Paul Dano), and he wants to alert Plainview, for a price, to a tract of land that he knows is rich with oil, his father's ranch.

Plainview investigates the site and moves in on it quickly: The father, Abel Sunday (David Willis), is no obstacle. But his other son, Eli (also played by Paul Dano), is a wanna-be preacher with grand plans to build his own church. He wants to squeeze as much money as possible out of Plainview -- the better to do God's work, of course -- and the two engage in a wary, tortured dance that's supposed to lead us to an understanding of their similarities, their differences, and the ways in which the pursuit of their respective goals is part of this flawed but remarkable entity we call the American character.

Those are grand intentions, and the movie that's banked around them never lets us forget how grand they are. There are epic impulses everywhere you look in "There Will Be Blood"; what's missing is character development, focused storytelling and, most significantly (apart from that terrific opening sequence), any sense of raw, intuitive drama. An epic has to expand as it proceeds; this one narrows. The movie has eloquence but no guts. Its vigor is the arty kind, and over and over again it raises questions and then acts as if the answers -- or even the questions those initial questions lead to -- are unimportant: When we first see Eli -- who of course looks like Paul, because the two are played by the same actor -- we wonder if maybe they're the same person, a split personality. Later, we find out the truth, but it's revealed as if it were an afterthought, a magic wand that's waved vaguely in front of us to get us to think about the dual nature of good and evil and all that rot.

The tragedy of "There Will Be Blood" is that Anderson knows exactly what he's doing: His skill hasn't disappeared or been submerged. There are a few scenes that are so economical and yet so filled with feeling that they point a way to the wholly different movie Anderson might have made: In one of these scenes, H.W. tells his father, with a directness that's deeply touching, that the youngest girl in the Sunday family, Mary, whom he's befriended (she's played by Sydney McCallister), is beaten by her father when she doesn't pray. This clearly distresses the boy, and in the terse shorthand that Plainview and H.W. use to express their love for each other -- the kind of private language that often springs up between family members -- Plainview asks him, "Mary, she's the smaller one?" to which he responds plainly, "Yes, she is."

That scene has so much dignity that it dwarfs the flashier scenes -- particularly the overplayed, near-screwball ending -- that come later. Over and over again, I found myself respecting Anderson's choices and yet not really responding to them. The movie's weird, insistent, fascinating score is by Johnny Greenwood, of Radiohead (it sounds as if it were written to be played not by violins but by a field of anxious cicadas), and Anderson uses it intelligently in some places and rashly in others.

But the greatest disappointment of "There Will Be Blood" is the way its actors seem to matter less than its themes. This is the first Paul Thomas Anderson movie that feels woefully underpopulated. There are no women in "There Will Be Blood" -- Plainview is apparently so fixated on oil he has zero interest in sex -- and that's fine. But their absence is never addressed; the understanding is that a world of power-hungry men is interesting by itself (which it isn't). Anderson has cast a terrific performer, the Irish actor Ciarán Hinds, as Plainview's right-hand man, yet he barely shows us Hinds' face. That's so uncharacteristic of Anderson's generosity toward actors that it's almost unfathomable. Dano (who played the disaffected brother in "Little Miss Sunshine") is allowed to overact in a way that drains power out of the movie instead of charging it.

But Day-Lewis, holder of that most dangerous title "Great Actor," is the worst offender. Day-Lewis is a great actor, as he's proved in movies like "In the Name of the Father" and "My Left Foot." But his greatness is an impediment here. It seems he's decided that naturalism is boring and that big roles demand some kind of novelty. In "There Will Be Blood," he's chosen to channel John Huston, which makes for some tortured, oddball line readings that are clearly supposed to strike us as brilliant.

In "There Will Be Blood," Day-Lewis' body language tells us more about his character than any of his line readings do: His elbows are locked at an awkward angle, and his gait is stiff and belabored, thanks to old mining injuries -- this is a man who's achieved success in defiance of his body. Late in the movie, Plainview has a telling line of dialogue: "There are times when I look at people and I see nothing worth liking." I don't see that as a cynic's line, but as a jumping-off point for exploring the more elusive qualities of what it means to be human: I'm of the school that believes disappointment in humankind is a greater sign of love for it than bland acceptance. But Day-Lewis' performance doesn't tread into that territory. Over and over again, "There Will Be Blood" drops hints about what its big ideas are supposed to be and then neatly skirts them. (The movie is based on only the first 150 pages of Sinclair's book; its ending demands that we fill in the missing chunks of the story for ourselves.) This isn't a cynical picture, just a maddeningly incomplete one. And it's too emotionally constrained to be worthy of Anderson's considerable gifts. "There Will Be Blood" strives for boldness, instead of just being bold. It doesn't cut, and it doesn't bleed.
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Post by: Pozer on December 27, 2007, 12:55:59 PM
STEPHANIE ZACHAREK FROM SALON.COM IS THE WORST THING EVER!!!  HER REVIEWS ARE ALWAYS GOD AWFUL, AND SHE IS NOT A FILM CRITIC CUZ SHE HAAAATES FILM.  SHE IS ON THE CRITIC MASS THING IN ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY AND ALWAYS RUINS THE GRADES FOR THE GOOD FILMS - IT KILLS ME EVERY TIME!!!  'Oh, lemme See here... No Country For Old Men - A, A, A, A, A, A, A, C-?  I'm at the end of the critics here which means it's.. sonuvabitch, Zacha-fucking-rek!'   I WISH TESTICULAR CANCER ON STEPHANIE ZACHARKEK!!!!! !
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Post by: tpfkabi on December 27, 2007, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: pozer on December 27, 2007, 12:55:59 PM
 I WISH TESTICULAR CANCER ON STEPHANIE ZACHARKEK!!!!! !

:yabbse-grin:
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Post by: B.C. Long on December 27, 2007, 05:21:26 PM
OBVIOUS ADMIN EDIT: SPOILERS


Quote from: MacGuffin on December 27, 2007, 11:01:23 AM
the astonishing vitality of Day-Lewis' performance — appears to have led the director astray at crucial points. In two key scenes — an over-the-top church baptism and an off-the-rails confrontation between Plainview and Eli that ends the picture (and almost sinks it) — Anderson seems to have been so overawed by the actor's mastery that he abandoned control of the action and let Day-Lewis have free rein. The result is that rare dramatic flaw: too much of a good thing.

....what? He just described the best two scenes in the movie.
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 28, 2007, 12:01:40 AM
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Daniel Day-Lewis may be foolhardy, but don't laugh
By Bob Tourtellotte; Reuters

In movies from "My Left Foot" to current drama "There Will Be Blood," Daniel Day-Lewis has been called many things: bold, hypnotic, gripping, among them. But foolhardy is a description he may like better.

The English-born actor does not want to look like a fool -- far from it. Yet, the Oscar winner said that one of his biggest motivating forces over the years has been his desire to push limits in ways that might possibly be panned by audiences.

Fortunately for him, that rarely, if ever, happens.

"I don't want to look like an idiot," he said with a laugh. "But you know what the truth is. Having said that, you can't do this work without making a fool of yourself."

Acting with his focus solely on characters and performance with little regard for what critics think is the main lesson Day-Lewis said he learned while studying drama at the Bristol Old Vic School in Britain.

It stayed with him through the 1980s as he rose into the ranks of top actors with "My Beautiful Laundrette," "A Room With a View and "My Left Foot," the story of a man who overcame cerebral palsy to learn to write and paint with his foot.

At age 30, Day-Lewis won the best actor Oscar for "Left Foot." Since then, the son of British poet Cecil Day-Lewis and husband of filmmaker Rebecca Miller (daughter of playwright Arthur Miller) has worked with top directors in top movies.

Day-Lewis, now 50, also has been Oscar-nominated for his role in 1993's "In the Name of the Father," playing a man wrongly accused of a bombing, and in 2002's "Gangs of New York," portraying gang leader Bill "The Butcher" Cutting.

PASSION PROJECTS

Since the late 1990s, his roles have become fewer and farther in between -- "There Will Be Blood" is only his fourth movie in a decade -- because Day-Lewis accepts only roles and projects about which he is passionate.

For the part of oil prospector Daniel Plainview in "Blood," Day-Lewis worked for nearly four years with writer/director Paul Thomas Anderson to hone the character.

"I could spend 10 years making a movie if it was a subject that interests me," Day-Lewis said. "You have to limit shooting because you can only mine so much out of yourself. But during preparation, that is a period of (mental) nourishment."

"Blood" revolves around Plainview, an angry and competitive man who is driven to become wealthy during California's oil boom in the early 1900s. The movie plays out like a cautionary tale of the corrupting power of money.

Day-Lewis is well-known for intense preparation, but he finds it hard to explain his way of working.

"Each piece of work requires that you imagine a world, and then you try to understand that world through the eyes and experience of a human being that isn't yourself," he said.

While words like bold, intense and focused are often used to describe him, Day-Lewis is rather soft-spoken and quick-witted in person.

He has three sons, one with French actress Isabelle Adjani, and two boys with Miller, who wrote and directed 2005's "The Ballad of Jack and Rose" starring Day-Lewis.

Tattoos of his children's hands are inked onto his arms, and when asked what they are, Day-Lewis laughs.

"This is thing one, my 12-year-old. He's got the smallest hand," he said, pointing. "Then, this is 9 and 5."
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Post by: modage on December 28, 2007, 01:37:04 AM
saw Sean Lennon and Yoko Ono at the 10:35 Blood tonite.  that was crazy.
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Post by: cine on December 28, 2007, 03:30:06 AM
i already met Yoko... NEXT.
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 28, 2007, 12:06:15 PM
Source: Hollywood Reporter

Two opposing views of Paul Thomas Anderson's There Will be Blood -- the yea from Matt Zoller Seitz (http://mattzollerseitz.blogspot.com/2007/12/drilling-for-art-there-will-be-blood.html) and the nay from N.P. Thompson (http://mattzollerseitz.blogspot.com/2007/12/american-crude-there-will-be-blood-take.html).

Blood "isn't perfect or entirely satisfying, but it's so singular in its conception and execution that one can no more dismiss it than one can dismiss a volcanic eruption occurring in one's backyard," Seitz observes. "It cannot be diminished -- as Hard Eight, Boogie Nights and Magnolia could, and to my mind, rightly were diminished -- as another instance of a facile, energetic director hurling homage at the audience."

Having seen it on 11.28, Thompson writes that "in the clear light of late autumn drizzle, There Will Be Blood appeared to be no more and no less than what it truly is: a bomb, and an overwrought one at that. It may be a tonier work than the detestable Boogie Nights, but Anderson's underlying crudeness and his overkill 'sensibility' haven't evolved an iota. (Yes, Virginia, I can hear the jihadists singing in the comments section already.)

"A friend who hated the movie as much as I did asked afterwards, as we dodged rain in the Oaktree Cinema parking lot, 'Did that amount to anything beyond a couple of games of one-upmanship?' I confessed I hadn't thought of Blood in those terms. Still, her question perfectly encapsulated the anorexic one-dimensionality of the picture, and I had to agree."
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Post by: Pozer on December 28, 2007, 03:19:23 PM
lots more love from harold & friends:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35156 (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35156)
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Post by: B.C. Long on December 28, 2007, 03:45:19 PM
So I found the real screener. It's about 1.3 gigs. And divided into three separate avi files. Pretty good quality too.

http://dl.btjunkie.org/torrent/There-will-be-blood-2007-Dvdrip-ENG-PEPE/4432b0528245e0b9eab9069ee57db3e1919d012deb03/download.torrent
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Post by: cine on December 28, 2007, 04:19:41 PM
merry christmas stefen.
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Post by: Pozer on December 28, 2007, 04:28:09 PM
happy birthday pubrick.
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Post by: cine on December 28, 2007, 05:33:06 PM
From CNN.com's film critic Tom Charity: The best (and worst) films of 2007

The year in film was a mixed bag, though one that holds great promise for the future.

American cinema produced one flat-out masterpiece this year -- Paul Thomas Anderson's "There Will Be Blood".

"There Will Be Blood"
Anderson's lacerating epic about the birth of the oil age. Daniel Day-Lewis, in the best performance of the year, is extraordinary as the prospector entirely consumed with his own enterprise; Paul Dano the evangelist who may be his nemesis.
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Post by: Stefen on December 28, 2007, 06:43:54 PM
What? I'm not downloading it. That's illegal. And even if I did try like say earlier this week when I commented on it it's probably still dling and not even 10% finished since there aren't any seeds. The actual Pepe guy may have told me about it himself. But alas, no seeds, so I wouldn't even download it if it was legal. *sigh*


Oh, and from the parts I would have downloaded and was able to check. It was DVD quality. JUST PERFECT. But it's illegal and there are no seeds so it's not even worth talking about.

*loads gun*
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 28, 2007, 07:04:51 PM
There Will Be Blood
Source: NY Mag Review

**SPOILERS**

As Daniel Plainview, the monomaniacal oilman in Paul Thomas Anderson's There Will Be Blood, Daniel Day-Lewis wears a thick, curly mustache, and his face is freakishly long and straight, like a Balinese mask. His eyes are slits; they sparkle only when he trains them on his principal antagonist, a self-styled young preacher named Eli Sunday (Paul Dano). Plainview can't believe this loon, who ostentatiously renounces worldly goods and whose voice rises to a girlish falsetto as he throws himself into exorcising the demons from his congregants. He also can't believe he had to bargain hard with the boy-preacher to buy the Sunday family's remote central California farm, under which there's "an ocean of oil." Plainview is a man of the earth, not the spirit—his gaze points down, not up. When he and the ninnyish Eli occupy the same space, you can almost smell the sulfur coming from his nostrils. He wants to beat the kid into the ground.

There Will Be Blood is a chamber drama on the scale of an Old Testament allegory, an epic Western, a parable of rapacious capitalism. It's sublime—beautiful and ghastly at once. It wouldn't work without an actor the size of Day-Lewis, who looms as large as the oil derricks that dominate the unruly landscape; he fills the screen and then some. He has preternatural stature from the start, in 1898—a bravura, virtually wordless opening in which he labors alone on his gold mine. At night, he chews his food by his campfire in a crouch, like a simian caveman out of 2001. When he drills his first successful oil well, he loses one of his workers to a plummeting shaft. The man leaves an infant behind (the mother appears to have died in childbirth—this is a movie about fathers, not mothers), and Plainview moistens the squalling baby's bottle with whiskey. What would he do with a baby? We find out in the next sequence, a leap of years, when the small boy, H.W. (Dillon Freasier), serves as a prop in what Plainview now sells as a family business. The kid listens to his dad address the townspeople whose land he wants to lease with an enigmatic smile, drinking in the spiel, and that voice of Plainview's is something to hear: cadenced, deep-toned, a plangent rasp. Day-Lewis sounds like John Huston, and his Plainview could be the up-and-coming Noah Cross from Chinatown. Except Plainview sublimates his dark sexual impulses. He sinks his drill into the virginal land.

Anderson was inspired by Upton Sinclair's novel Oil! but quickly veers off in a personal direction. His Boogie Nights and Magnolia are delirious ensemble psychodramas that circle around the fraught relationships of fathers and children, of families real and surrogate, dysfunctional and semi-functional. There Will Be Blood is a family drama, too, except stark and cruel, with Plainview's drive corroding every tie. Fathers do unfatherly things. Brothers aren't brotherly. Every business triumph has a tragic personal corollary. Plainview isn't inhuman. He's devoted, in his way, to his son, and he begins to open up when Henry (Kevin J. O'Connor), his "brother from another mother," appears on his doorstep. But he's a solitary, suspicious man whose success breeds even more paranoia, in the venerable tradition of American tycoons like Charles Foster Kane and even Michael Corleone. There is blood, and when it comes it's shocking and absurd—more grotesque than the end of Sergio Leone's Once Upon a Time in America, in which the corrupted businessman ends up squashed in the back of a garbage truck. It's Punch-and-Judy time in a private bowling alley, an ignominious finish to an age-old struggle.

Reportedly, some preview audiences laughed derisively at the ending. I was agog. The movie doesn't need a somber finale—it needs something go-for-broke batshit crazy as a counterpoint to the early, mythic images of tall, gushing wells. The astounding classical score, by Radiohead guitarist Jonny Greenwood, is redolent of bad karma—ominous low strings, discordant buzzing like locusts from outer space. Maybe the gifted Paul Dano goes a little over the top at the end, but he's opposite Daniel Day-Lewis, for crying out loud, and it's no time to play it safe. Anderson's fearless, bighearted filmmaking is an antidote to the toxic cloud of Manifest Destiny. He has made a mad American classic. — David Edelstein
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Post by: cine on December 28, 2007, 07:55:40 PM
yeah, we're talking about the movie in another thread, stefen, you should check it out. it's a really good movie.
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Post by: Stefen on December 28, 2007, 07:58:49 PM
I'll check it out eventually. Stephanie Zacharek from Salon BLASTED it which doesn't bode well since her opinions usually mirror mine. Hmm. We'll see.
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Post by: cine on December 28, 2007, 07:59:21 PM
hahaha..
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Post by: Sal on December 28, 2007, 09:54:25 PM
Quote from: Stefen on December 28, 2007, 07:58:49 PM
I'll check it out eventually. Stephanie Zacharek from Salon BLASTED it which doesn't bode well since her opinions usually mirror mine. Hmm. We'll see.

She's not off target..
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Post by: cinemanarchist on December 29, 2007, 12:49:17 PM
So how many of those non LA/NY people are checking out the sneak previews tonight? I'll be at the one in Dallas (which I'm fairly certain is already sold out) and I know the one in Austin is sold out as well. I could have guessed Austin but I'm surprised that many people in Dallas want to see this so badly (especially considering the midnight start time.) Anyone care to make any box office predictions for TWBB's theatrical run? If this was already discussed somewhere else just slap my hand and move along.
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Post by: Ghostboy on December 29, 2007, 01:01:56 PM
Wow, I can't believe Dallas is sold out (which indeed it is). I'm glad I already got tickets, but I've got some friends who are going to be very upset...
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Post by: martinthewarrior on December 29, 2007, 01:04:56 PM
seeing it in chicago tonight. yeehaw.
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Post by: Ravi on December 29, 2007, 02:42:15 PM
Quote from: Ghostboy on December 29, 2007, 01:01:56 PM
Wow, I can't believe Dallas is sold out (which indeed it is).

FUCK!  I was planning on getting tickets today  :yabbse-angry:
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Post by: picolas on December 29, 2007, 03:07:01 PM
Quote from: cinemanarchist on December 29, 2007, 12:49:17 PMAnyone care to make any box office predictions for TWBB's theatrical run?
based on how it's doing in a few theaters i think it'll be his most successful film yet.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on December 29, 2007, 03:15:58 PM
Quote from: picolas on December 29, 2007, 03:07:01 PM
Quote from: cinemanarchist on December 29, 2007, 12:49:17 PMAnyone care to make any box office predictions for TWBB's theatrical run?
based on how it's doing in a few theaters i think it'll be his most successful film yet.

Consider the cities, though. If There Will be Blood got the praised it was expected to get, of course it would do well in the two biggest markets. The true test will come with smaller cities and markets once hype dies down and other more familar and more expected films start to distinguish themselves with awards. Day Lewis has a good chance for best actor, but I'm not sure what else the film has going for it.
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Post by: cinemanarchist on December 29, 2007, 03:48:30 PM
If I'm not mistaken PDL did huge numbers when it opened in just a few markets but obviously wasn't huge when it went nationwide. If Daniel Day-Lewis ends up scoring all of the major awards I think it could do 35-40 million. Great...now I've made a prediction and I'm stuck with it.
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Post by: Stefen on December 29, 2007, 04:00:36 PM
It'll bomb. I have no doubt about it. I'd say $20mil. And that's being generous.

America sucks. Alvin and the chipmunks has made like $150 million.
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Post by: modage on December 29, 2007, 04:02:09 PM
i agree with stefen's estimate.  i'll be very very surprised if it does any better than that.
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Post by: cinemanarchist on December 29, 2007, 04:19:11 PM
No Country is nearing $40 million and I'm not sure Tommy Lee Jones is any more bankable than DDL. I'm trying to give America the benefit of the doubt even though they rarely deserve it. Having seen TWBB already I'm definitely prepared for it to flop but obviously hoping otherwise.
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Post by: jigzaw on December 29, 2007, 05:55:20 PM
Is there any official word as to when exactly this film opens wide?  Not likely I'll get tickets for tonight and am sick of waiting with no release date..

For some godforsaken reason, IMDB only lists the release date for the nation of Turkey.
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Post by: I Don't Believe in Beatles on December 29, 2007, 06:23:12 PM
Where do you live?  Landmark Theaters has it listed as opening on January 4th here, dunno if that's the same around the country.
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Post by: jigzaw on December 29, 2007, 06:26:36 PM
Quote from: Ginger on December 29, 2007, 06:23:12 PM
Where do you live?  Landmark Theaters has it listed as opening on January 4th here, dunno if that's the same around the country.

Hm, well that's pretty soon.  I live in Chicago, but am in Miami until Jan 7.  I'll just have to keep checking the listings.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on December 29, 2007, 06:31:31 PM
Quote from: jigzaw on December 29, 2007, 06:26:36 PM
Quote from: Ginger on December 29, 2007, 06:23:12 PM
Where do you live?  Landmark Theaters has it listed as opening on January 4th here, dunno if that's the same around the country.

Hm, well that's pretty soon.  I live in Chicago, but am in Miami until Jan 7.  I'll just have to keep checking the listings.

Landmark in Milwaukee has it listed for January 11th.
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Post by: JG on December 29, 2007, 07:29:52 PM
I will be seeing it tonight in boston. Almost as excited as the first time. 
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Post by: A Matter Of Chance on December 29, 2007, 07:52:01 PM
Quote from: JG on December 29, 2007, 07:29:52 PM
I will be seeing it tonight in boston. Almost as excited as the first time. 

Me too!
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Post by: Sleepless on December 29, 2007, 09:10:01 PM
I've had steak and vodka and now I have less than 3 hours to find someone to drive me there!!!
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Post by: JG on December 30, 2007, 05:46:58 PM
loved it a lot.  what, no one saw this last night?
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Post by: noyes on December 30, 2007, 05:54:34 PM
Quote from: JG on December 30, 2007, 05:46:58 PM
loved it a lot.  what, no one saw this last night?

how much better is it the second time JG?
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Post by: JG on December 30, 2007, 06:08:32 PM
so much better!

i'm going to download it now, which is something i've never done with any movie ever.

edit: has anybody tried to download the whole thing yet?
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Post by: MacGuffin on December 30, 2007, 09:03:26 PM
QuoteOpening with huge numbers in limited release was Paramount Vantage's "There Will Be Blood," starring Daniel Day-Lewis in a tale of greed and violence during California's oil boom in the early 20th century. Playing at just two theaters in New York City and Los Angeles, "There Will Be Blood" took in $185,525 over the weekend and $309,703 since opening Wednesday. It expands to the top 10 markets Friday.
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Post by: Stefen on December 30, 2007, 09:04:21 PM
There is no download for it. There was a dvd screener released a couple days ago but the uploader stopped seeding when it was at like 12% so everyone is stuck with only 12% until the original uploader comes back. It sucks becuase it was PERFECT quality from the small bit available. DVD.

It's 3 files. DO NOT download any of the other ones floating around since it's just a .rar and when you try to unzip it it tells you you need to install some weird program which is a big no no and is obviously a virus.

There might be a cam out there but that's not even worth it. Who wants to watch Robert Elswits beautidul cinematography on a cam?
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Post by: Pozer on December 31, 2007, 10:58:57 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on December 29, 2007, 03:15:58 PM
Day Lewis has a good chance for best actor, but I'm not sure what else the film has going for it.

there's actually NO DOUBT in my mind now that he'll win.
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Post by: Stefen on December 31, 2007, 11:43:31 AM
For those who've seen it, do you think Elswit has a shot at best DP?
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Post by: Pozer on December 31, 2007, 12:16:28 PM
YES!
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Post by: cine on December 31, 2007, 12:17:18 PM
Quote from: Stefen on December 31, 2007, 11:43:31 AM
For those who've seen it, do you think Elswit has a shot at best DP?

for a nod, yes but he'll be competing against deakins, who'll probably get two nods at this rate... maybe that'll help give elswit his first oscar.  :shock:
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Post by: Ghostboy on December 31, 2007, 08:25:41 PM
Quote from: Sal on December 28, 2007, 09:54:25 PM
Quote from: Stefen on December 28, 2007, 07:58:49 PM
I'll check it out eventually. Stephanie Zacharek from Salon BLASTED it which doesn't bode well since her opinions usually mirror mine. Hmm. We'll see.

She's not off target..

She's not at all. I really loved the movie, and disagree with her about some things, but this is nonetheless a really strong and measured critique of the picture.
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Post by: SiliasRuby on December 31, 2007, 10:49:36 PM
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Post by: Gamblour. on January 01, 2008, 10:10:05 AM
I still haven't seen it.
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Post by: cine on January 01, 2008, 11:42:34 AM
well, the movie is OKAY... don't worry about it.
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Post by: Gamblour. on January 01, 2008, 01:48:50 PM
Fuck it. I will just go see Untraceable.
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Post by: modage on January 01, 2008, 07:16:16 PM
One of the most towering achievements in cinema this year, Paul Thomas Anderson's There Will Be Blood, finally opened in New York and Los Angeles on Christmas Day and was rewarded with a per-screen average of $91,300 over the weekend, the best average of the year, according to Pamela McClintock of Variety. Of course, the film only played at two theaters, but still, that's mighty impressive. Nineteen cities across the country also hosted a midnight screening on Saturday; no word yet on how those screenings were received.

also:

GUILD MEMBERS!
YOU ARE INVITED TO ATTEND SCREENINGS OF THERE WILL BE BLOOD
FOLLOWED BY A CONVERSATION WITH PAUL THOMAS ANDERSON

NEW YORK - JANUARY 3 2008, 7PM
DGA THEATRE, 110 WEST 57TH ST.,
RSVP TO (212) 654-1001
*MODERATED BY MARTIN SCORSESE  :shock:
http://www.vantageguilds.com/twbb/index.html
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Post by: cinemanarchist on January 01, 2008, 10:52:43 PM
Quote from: modage on January 01, 2008, 07:16:16 PM
One of the most towering achievements in cinema this year, Paul Thomas Anderson's There Will Be Blood, finally opened in New York and Los Angeles on Christmas Day and was rewarded with a per-screen average of $91,300 over the weekend, the best average of the year, according to Pamela McClintock of Variety. Of course, the film only played at two theaters, but still, that's mighty impressive. Nineteen cities across the country also hosted a midnight screening on Saturday; no word yet on how those screenings were received.

also:

GUILD MEMBERS!
YOU ARE INVITED TO ATTEND SCREENINGS OF THERE WILL BE BLOOD
FOLLOWED BY A CONVERSATION WITH PAUL THOMAS ANDERSON

NEW YORK - JANUARY 3 2008, 7PM
DGA THEATRE, 110 WEST 57TH ST.,
RSVP TO (212) 654-1001
*MODERATED BY MARTIN SCORSESE  :shock:
http://www.vantageguilds.com/twbb/index.html

70% of the midnight screenings were sold out.

And Martin Scrorsese? That's enough to make one's head explode just thinking about it. I want a detailed report from anyone who's lucky enough to attend.
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Post by: picolas on January 02, 2008, 02:02:43 AM
bootleg it someone for the love of g
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Post by: cine on January 02, 2008, 02:56:32 AM
oh fucking hell.
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Post by: MacGuffin on January 02, 2008, 09:46:21 AM
Rising to the occasion
Going toe-to-toe with the intense Daniel Day-Lewis in 'There Will Be Blood' could be intimidating. Or it could be just a game.
By Paul Lieberman, Los Angeles Times

**SPOILERS**

NEW YORK -- PAUL DANO was only 5 feet 6 when he entered his last year of high school, but never worried that he was doomed to remain small. His father and older brother were big and he had those looong feet -- size 12, incredibly narrow. "I always told my friends, 'Guys . . . I'm gonna grow,' " Dano recalls, and he did, spurting 7 inches, making him just like those feet -- long and skinny.

Writer-director Paul Thomas Anderson at first envisioned having a boy of 12 or 13 play the fledgling preacher in "There Will Be Blood," the character who takes on the ruthless oilman played by Daniel Day-Lewis. But after deciding that such casting was "ridiculous," Anderson still didn't give the part to Dano, who had auditioned for it just off his success as the brooding, mute older brother in the black comedy "Little Miss Sunshine." Though Dano did get a small role in the oil epic -- as the preacher's brother Paul -- that character had only one scene, so he brought little more than a change of underwear and a fresh T-shirt to the remote shoot in Texas.

The principals in the film are diplomatic when asked whether it's true that the actor who had been slated to play the preacher had to be replaced -- within days -- because he wasn't up to going head-to-head with Day-Lewis' intensity. "Whatever the problem was," insists Day-Lewis, "I absolutely don't believe it was because he was intimidated by me."

But Dano, who was 22 at the time of the filming, understood what he was getting into when he leaped up to second billing, suddenly playing both Paul and now the preacher, Eli Sunday. He'd worked with Day-Lewis once before, after all -- on 2005's "The Ballad of Jack and Rose" -- and had gotten videos of most of the Ireland-based actor's other films, including "Gangs of New York," in which Day-Lewis as the murderous Bill the Butcher arguably overwhelmed the actor who played his foil, Leonardo DiCaprio.

When the camera light goes on, you see why Day-Lewis is "known to be extreme in his investment in his work," as Dano puts it. The point is, either that scares the bejesus out of you, or it doesn't. "I think that is something to sort of be turned on by rather than be scared by," Dano says. "You know, it's like a game almost."

So, "when I first got down in Texas and we figured out this whole part thing" -- that he'd play the preacher who is instantly wary of oilman Daniel Plainview -- "we talked about it a little bit." Then? "Once we started working, I don't think we spoke to each other much at all."

That's a game? "You know, if he's not gonna say anything to me or look me in the eye, you know . . . I'm gonna give that right back to him."

THEY have three great confrontations in the film and the first two were shot one day after another, though they're far apart in the story: In the first, Day-Lewis' determined oilman ("I have a competition in me. I want no one else to succeed. I hate most people.") slaps around the preacher, who wants to know why his church has not gotten the funds it was promised. In the second, Eli Sunday has the upper hand for the oilman is desperate to build a pipeline over the land of a faithful church member. The price? His baptism.

Dano suspects the back-to-back filming may not have been coincidence, but "PTA" -- director Anderson -- "doing that on purpose" to amp up the tit-for-tat humiliations of each man.

Dano says the scene in which he's slapped around got a new dimension when they saw the muck at the makeshift reservoir where it was shot. "It was like, 'OK, we gotta put him in the mud,' " Dano recalls. "It was Daniel and Paul [Anderson]. I think they both enjoyed that."

What they got was Day-Lewis dragging him through the mud by the hair while he gives off a high-pitched squeal, "that sort of happened in the moment," Dano says. "When I saw the film I went, 'Oh, my God, I'm screaming like a girl.' "

Plus, the tables were turned the next day. Dano had already experienced the seductive power of the pulpit in an earlier scene in a shack-like church, preaching the spirit to local Texans recruited as extras to play the early 20th century settlers. He couldn't help "feeling these people respond" as he laid healing hands on them and sensed how, in that role, "you start to want people to maybe worship you rather than worship God, you know?"

Then he has to baptize and abuse Day-Lewis -- who is there just doing what it takes to get a pipeline for his oil -- and that was a blast. "Oh, yeah, absolutely. Being a threat in terms of acting, in my experience, is more fun."

Except he wasn't supposed to slap Day-Lewis, at least not right away, for his face could get red. "And I completely forgot. Or whatever," Dano says. "Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty sure I just forgot and was having fun in the scene, you know, in the moment and I slapped the hell out of his face and then as soon as they yelled 'Cut!' I went, 'Oh . . . .' . . . I was mortified but I was also sort of thrilled, you know?"

Dano lives in New York, where, now 23, he has a year to go to get his degree in English at the New School amid doing films and plays. Indeed, he recently appeared in the off-Broadway "Things We Want," playing a possibly suicidal cooking school dropout under the direction of Ethan Hawke, with whom Dano has found himself on some lists lately -- of contenders for the supporting actor Oscar.

Hawke has been mentioned for "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead." And Dano? Well, for being thrust suddenly into a difficult part, having to call home for more underwear, then holding his own in the company of Daniel Day-Lewis.
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Post by: modage on January 02, 2008, 01:33:58 PM
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Paul Thomas Anderson
By Josh Modell - The Onion AV Club
January 2nd, 2008

Paul Thomas Anderson famously dropped out of NYU film school after just a couple of days, intent on beginning a career making movies. It worked: At 26, the writer-director released a remarkable debut feature, 1996's Hard Eight, which featured several actors that would become part of his troupe, including Philip Seymour Hoffman, John C. Reilly, and Philip Baker Hall. Anderson's real breakthrough, though, came via 1997's Boogie Nights, a simultaneously hilarious and heartbreaking ensemble piece set in the porn industry. His even more sprawling Magnolia—another melancholy love letter to southern California—earned Oscar nominations and high praise; he followed that with the unsentimental, beautifully off-kilter romantic comedy Punch Drunk Love, starring Adam Sandler. Then Anderson seemed to disappear.

It turned out he was working on his magnum opus. The film, loosely based on Upton Sinclair's novel Oil!, stars Daniel Day Lewis in a remarkable performance as a single-minded 19th-century oil prospector. A departure from Anderson's other films, Blood ditches modern-day L.A. and his regular group of actors and focuses largely on one character—Day Lewis is in nearly every scene of the 158-minute film—and the effect of his dark drive on those around him, particularly a young preacher played by Paul Dano. One of 2007's best films, it renders this seemingly small story huge and powerful. A jovial Anderson recently spoke to The A.V. Club about Day Lewis, the melancholy of finishing work, and "message movies."

The A.V. Club: How did you first encounter Upton Sinclair's book?

Paul Thomas Anderson: I was in London, in Covent Garden, and it's impossible to miss. The title is in this enormous red lettering with an exclamation mark. Oil! That was the first I ever saw it, or heard of it. I had never read Upton Sinclair. I didn't read The Jungle in high school or anything like that. But it's pretty terrific writing.

AVC: What's your process of adapting like? Had you ever tried to adapt something before? All of your produced screenplays have been originals.

PTA: It felt like the first thing, but when I first started out, I got a job adapting a book by Russell Banks called Rule Of The Bone. I didn't do a very good job. I didn't really know what I was doing in general, let alone how to adapt a book. I really was confused by that, because I loved the book. I remember being taught in school that you would underline things that you liked. I remember just underlining everything as a kid, thinking, "This has all gotta be important!" I would just underline the whole thing! [Laughs.] I remember my dad saying, "I don't think you understand. Just underline key ideas." Anyway, I think that's what I did on that Russell Banks book. I felt like my job was to somehow transcribe it, which in that case, really wasn't the right thing to do.

So with There Will Be Blood, I didn't even really feel like I was adapting a book. I was just desperate to find stuff to write. I can remember the way that my desk looked, with so many different scraps of paper and books about the oil industry in the early 20th century, mixed in with pieces of other scripts that I'd written. Everything was coming from so many different sources. But the book was a great stepping-stone. It was so cohesive, the way Upton Sinclair wrote about that period, and his experiences around the oil fields and these independent oilmen. That said, the book is so long that it's only the first couple hundred pages that we ended up using, because there is a certain point where he strays really far from what the original story is. We were really unfaithful to the book. [Laughs.] That's not to say I didn't really like the book; I loved it. But there were so many other things floating around. And at a certain point, I became aware of the stuff he was basing it on. What he was writing about was the life of [oil barons] Edward Doheny and Harry Sinclair. So it was like having a really good collaborator, the book.

AVC: When you finish a film, are you generally pretty confident in it? At what point in the process do you know that it's good, or great, or the opposite? Do you need to see it with an audience?

PTA: It's back and forth all the way along. You definitely have moments of confidence, where you feel like, "We got something great today!" And you go home at night, completely unable to sleep, mad with enthusiasm and confidence. A couple of days later, you're lost again and struggling to make sense out of something. But that's okay. I actually enjoyed the struggles that we had trying to shape Blood, to get the pacing right, the rhythm of it. I showed it to family and friends, and we kind of knew the parts that we didn't like, or that we wanted to work on. Speaking for me and Dylan [Tichenor, editor], we knew the parts that we wanted to work out, that we weren't happy with. But there's a certain point where you're desperate to show it to somebody, and you put it in front of friends and family, and, lo and behold, the thing that you suspected wasn't working certainly was not working. And then you get that thing that opens your eyes to the bits and pieces you thought were flying that really weren't as great as you thought. Face to face with having to show it to your friends, you find yourself becoming a little less confident. It's that battle, a never-ending thing. Then when you do get to the end—I know when we got to the end of this film—we were really happy. I really felt like we did what we wanted to do, that we'd worked it hard enough that we could be proud of it. But that said, nothing prepares you for that melancholy when you've finished it. It's always a little bit depressing.

AVC: It's strikingly dissimilar to the rest of your movies; did you feel, when you were making it, that you were outside your comfort zone?

PTA: The struggles are the struggles no matter what. It definitely felt good to be outside of the comfort zone. I remember feeling like, "I should really try to enjoy this, because it will be over so fast." And it was. We had such a good time making the film, and I remember jumping ahead to the end, saying "In three months, it's going to be over." Quite honestly, I wish we were still making the movie. It's been really hard to let go of.

AVC: And yet it's easily the darkest thing you've ever done.

PTA: Definitely. But I like that. That's a good thing—it feels right. [Laughs.]

AVC: You've described it as a horror movie. Do you still feel that way?


PTA: I do feel that way, in the way of, "What's the best way to look at this story?" You're always coming up with bullshit ways to describe it, that for whatever reason can help communicate to everyone, like, "We've got to think of this movie as a boxing match between these two guys, and attack it like a horror story." Those are just ways to describe whatever the marching orders might be. They come in handy, those kinds of descriptions.

AVC: It's a bit surprising at how many laughs Daniel Day Lewis gets in uncomfortable spots, especially at the end.


PTA: It's great, isn't it? [Laughs.]

AVC: Is that how you felt when watching it with an audience? Were you expecting people to laugh?

PTA: I wasn't expecting it, but I was hoping for it! We used to laugh so much, but there is this completely nerve-wracking feeling, like, "Fuck, I hope they laugh."

AVC: How much, if any, of Lewis' character's misanthropy do you share? I just read this New Yorker review that described you as "pessimistic, even apocalyptic," which seems incredibly off the mark.

PTA: Yeah. Fuck, I'll take it. Sure. Yeah. [Laughs.]

AVC: But do you have that in you?

PTA: Absolutely, absolutely. We all do, don't we? I know that I do. It would be insane to say that I don't, that we all haven't had murderous thoughts. But we're socialized. We don't really do those things that we think about doing.

AVC: Do you have any of the character's "competition" in you?

PTA: From time to time, certainly yes, of course. But mostly, no. As I get older, I have less and less of it in me.

AVC: You wrote the part for Daniel Day Lewis. Had you met him before?

PTA: I hadn't, no.

AVC: So was sending him a half-finished script a shot in the dark?

PTA: More or less, but we had a mutual friend who had let me know how Daniel felt about Punch Drunk Love, which was that he was incredibly complimentary. So I was armed with that to give me a boost of confidence. Without that, I don't know what I would have done. I mean, yes, I would have made that leap and risked failure. But it was really nice to have that kind of encouragement to think, "Well, he liked that."

AVC: You've said that you spent a lot of time preparing, the two of you. What was the process like, working out what his character would be like, and how you were going to tell the story?

PTA: Well, we spent a couple of months together in New York. I just remember a lot of eating breakfast and a lot of walking around, more or less getting to know each other and not talking that much about the movie—just this flirtation, like dogs sniffing each other out, to get to know somebody that you're gonna get married to. We decided that we would make the film together, or more to the point, he decided that he would make the film with me. [Laughs.] Then we went in separate directions; I was back in California and he was in Ireland. That was a really good time, because we were separately doing our work. I was still working on the script, and he was doing whatever he was doing. We never really asked each other what we were up to that much. As far as I'm concerned, I didn't need to give him anything more than he wanted to know. I was just there to answer any questions he might have. It was certainly not my job to start babbling away.

Those were really good days, and they accidentally went on for two years, because we tried to get the film going, and we couldn't get it going, and life intervened. There were babies born, backs broken—he hurt his back. One thing led to another, and we just did that more or less for a year. We thought it was time really well spent, and then when we started filming, I can't even tell you: It was like we were cooped up in the starting gate, and the second the starting gate opened, we fell flat on our faces with all of this energy. We had the most horrendous beginning of a film, for two weeks, just completely off of the mark. We got it together finally, but it was hilarious. We had been cooped up for too long.

AVC: So did you have two weeks of wasted film?

PTA: A little bit. There was some stuff that was salvageable. There was some stuff that we got that was good, really good, actually. But mixed in was some stuff that I wouldn't show to anyone—the most embarrassing, off-the-mark kind of stuff.

AVC: Do you recall, either in conversation or rehearsal, the first time you heard Daniel speaking in the unmistakable voice he uses for the film?

PTA: The voice came in these little Dictaphone recordings that Daniel would send me from time to time. It was funny, because my first impression of them was "This is insane!" [Laughs.] But those are usually the best things, the things that you have no preconceived idea about that rattle your world. When you're writing it, and you're alone in your room, it's great. It's just you. But the great thing is opening it up to someone else. You have to be selfless and allow this thing to happen. So I would get these Dictaphone recordings, which were alternately exciting and nerve-wracking. But after sitting with them, just for a day, I could see where he was heading. Somewhere along the way, he just kept finding it, and finding it, and finding it, until it settled into what it became. He must have a Dictaphone from the 1930s, because everything sounded antique coming out of this tiny little speaker. So it all sounded old to begin with. And he talked about this: A great benefit of what we were doing was that there were no voice recordings from 1911 that we could draw from. We could really do what we wanted.

AVC: Were you worried when you first got the recordings that the voice was too over the top?

PTA: I don't know what it was; it was as exciting as it was nerve-wracking. But I've had that so many times before. I remember Phil Hoffman showing me what he was going to do in Boogie Nights, and going, "What the fuck do you think you're doing?" [Laughs.] I remember being the same way when [composer and Radiohead guitarist] Jonny Greenwood was sending me score pieces. I was like "What?" But ultimately you have a day, maybe two days, to get out of yourself and see what another person was thinking.

AVC: It's been pretty widely reported that Daniel stayed in character the whole shoot. What exactly does that mean, and how does that affect your relationship on set?

PTA: I still don't know what that means. It's a major misconception that somebody is off the planet or something. But it's a level of concentration that is unparalleled, that's really what it is. Somebody who's come to do one thing, and only one thing, to be Daniel Plainview, and indulge in that for three months. Why wouldn't you take the opportunity to inhabit something else on a free pass for three months? It's not as far-fetched as it sounds. It really is the best way to do it, in my mind.

AVC: He's gotten tons of deserved ink, but what about Paul Dano? What do you feel like he brought to the table, and what was the chemistry between Daniel and Paul like? Loathing with some admiration?


PTA: That's a good way to put it, loathing with admiration. They had the benefit of working together before, so Paul knew what to expect, and Daniel gave Paul respect, underneath all of it. That said, they kept their distance from each other. But you can only play that game if there's an understanding—"I get it, you get it, let's get on with it. This is my line, don't cross it." It was like S&M, but we didn't have any safewords. [Laughs.]

AVC: You were there to provide the safeword.

PTA: But I was the last one who wanted a safeword! [Laughs.] It's my job to not have a safeword.

AVC: How many people are around when you're doing some of these really intense scenes, like the one in the bowling alley? It seems like, for actors working in that intense a scene, almost anyone would be a distraction.


PTA: It can be, if people are misbehaving or talking loudly, or wearing bright clothes, or chatting away. Ideally, in a perfect world, everyone is doing what Daniel is doing—concentrating on doing their job. And that's what we were all doing. You could say that we were all in character the whole time. The bowling alley is a particular situation, because it was so narrow that there could only be a very limited amount of people at any given time, maybe five or six behind the camera and then the two boys.

AVC: That was actually shot at the Doheny mansion, right? Was it ghostly?

PTA: It was great. It was funny, because that mansion has been used so many times in films; it's kind of this notorious location. Your first instinct as a filmmaker is, "Can we really shoot someplace that's been shot in so many times?" I think we had a free pass because this was the guy we were basing the film on. It's definitely pretty ghostly around there, without question. Daniel called it a pyramid that Doheny built to himself. I think that fits. It's kind of a mad place.

AVC: Some people will surely see it as a message movie because Upton Sinclair's name is on it, but for other obvious reasons as well. Were you thinking about modern-day strong-arm capitalism and mega-church religion while you were writing and shooting it?

PTA: I was thinking that we'd better be very careful not to do too much of that. And what I mean by that is what I said earlier, that we should approach the film as a horror film and a boxing match first. You know you're walking into a film about an independent oilman and a guy that runs a church. The risks that you run are big, long speeches that would help in paralleling or allegoricalizing, if that's a word. [Laughs.] We thought, "Let's be careful." That's a slippery slope, isn't it?

AVC: Sure, but you know it's there. Do you let a tiny bit of it in to avoid the floodgates opening?

PTA: I suppose that's probably what it is. It's so funny, because ideally, once you get underneath the skin of these men, that stuff falls away.

AVC: Is there a small part of you that hopes people take away an anti-capitalist message?

PTA: Do I hope the film brings peace to the Middle East? If we can help in some small way. We're just one film. [Laughs.]

AVC: One long film.

PTA: That's true. Maybe we should count as two.

AVC: Long films are required to have messages.


PTA: It's true, it's true! [Laughs.] That depends on how progressive you are, actually.

AVC: Do you think that people can watch it and not get that? Could a big oil tycoon watch it and just get a cracking good story out of it?


PTA: Chances are. I don't know. We've got to show it to the oil circuit, and see how they respond. [Laughs.] Maybe we'll take it to the religious circuit and see what they think.

AVC: It seems pretty obvious what kind of reaction you're going to receive there.

PTA: Does it? What do you think they are going to say?

AVC: I mean this in the best way, so don't take it the wrong way...

PTA: Uh-oh, I always get nervous when I hear that.

AVC: Your movies always seem very tidy. They might be sprawling, but they're very unambiguous. The conceit of so many independent films is to be ambiguous, maybe for its own sake.

PTA: I take that as a high compliment, actually. Thank you. I really do. We could have titled the movie There Will Be A Morally Unambiguous Ending. [Laughs.] That's really nice of you to say. Thanks.

AVC: Is ambiguity not in your filmmaking genes, then? Does it not appeal to you?

PTA: I don't know. It would require me to get objective and think too much. I'll just take the compliment.

AVC: The film is dedicated to Robert Altman. Was your experience working with him on Prairie Home Companion what you hoped it would be? You knew him a little bit, right?

PTA: I knew him pretty well, off and on for about 10 years, but I had gotten to know him particularly well in the last three or four years. I got to watch Bob navigate that film, and I watched how good he was at evading questions, in the best way. He was really good at not committing himself too early to something. He didn't impose his will early. He loved to work with people. He loved to see what they came up with. He would give things time to settle, to rise or to fall, and watching him do that was a great lesson in patience. Because at the end of the day, he invited everybody in to work on this film, but he ended up getting exactly what he wanted, and everyone else felt that they had been part of it, because they had. They really made the film with Bob. How he did that was a lesson to me.

AVC: Is that something that you feel you emulate? It seems like There Will Be Blood was very collaborative with Daniel.


PTA: I've had great collaborations in the past—some of the actors and the crew have been working together for years—and it felt like we were all working in great sync on this one. Maybe it was because we hadn't made a film together in a long time. We were all so happy to get back together and go to work, and work with some new people, like Daniel, and [production designer] Jack Fisk, and Jonny Greenwood. We really enjoyed making the film. I daresay a lot of us still wish we were making the film, and have had a hard time letting it go.

AVC: Will that spur you to dive into another movie more quickly?

PTA: Ideally. It's something we're all talking about. We'll take a little time off, and talk about what we'd like to get done in the new year. It would require me getting some writing done and finding some time to do that. Hopefully it won't take too long.
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Post by: MacGuffin on January 02, 2008, 10:32:51 PM
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`Blood' Is Breakthrough for Anderson

In the last conversation Paul Thomas Anderson had with Robert Altman, his friend and mentor told him: "I think this film is something different for you."

"It was so sweet," Anderson recently recalled. "He had no reason to base it on anything except just a feeling."

Altman died in November 2006, a month before Anderson planned to show him a rough cut of "There Will Be Blood."

But Altman's hunch turned out to be accurate.

Anderson's new movie stands apart from his first four films "Sydney" (aka "Hard Eight"), "Boogie Nights," "Magnolia" and "Punch-Drunk Love." And it's been hailed as one of the year's best films and a remarkable advancement for a maturing auteur.

"Your paranoia becomes `What ... does that mean? Does that mean at the expense of the other films this is something else?' ... But I'd be lying if I didn't say that every time you go to make a film, you're desperate to either do it better than you did it last time or to not repeat yourself," the 37-year-old writer-director said.

The scruffy Anderson speaks passionately about film and can discuss movie history with authority. When he began directing in his early 20s, he was seen as an L.A.-bred cinematic phenom who quickly became a star in the '90s independent film scene, specializing in movies set in his native San Fernando Valley.

With large ensemble casts, ever-moving cameras, memorable music and lengthy running times, Anderson established a bold style. This, combined with realistically flawed, often desperate characters, made Anderson not just a film-geek hero, but a sought-after talent.

Anderson's previous films all had notable autobiographical elements, but for "There Will Be Blood," he sought to expand outside of himself and began the script as a loose adaptation of Upton Sinclair's 1927 novel "Oil!"

The director used roughly the first 100 pages of Sinclair's book and drew on other sources, particularly Margaret Leslie Davis' 1998 biography of oil tycoon Edward Doheny, "The Dark Side of Fortune."

"The benefits of the adaptation was that it helped me do things that my natural instincts wouldn't lead me to do," said Anderson, who acknowledged that, if left to his own devices, he's more liable to "spin off the rails a bit more."

"It was like collaborating with somebody," he said.

The result is a film about the fictional Daniel Plainview, an obsessed turn-of-the-century oil man, brought to life by Daniel Day-Lewis.

"It was a fully imagined, fully understood world that Paul had already created on the page for me, therefore it was that world, in its entirety, that unleashed a curiosity that can take you, you don't know where," said Day-Lewis.

For a film that's winning raves, it had inauspicious beginnings. Production was postponed for two years to raise financing, and only after shooting began, Paul Dano was cast in the supporting role.

"Quite honestly, after all that time, Daniel and I were like caged animals in the starting gate," said Anderson. "And the gate opened and we just fell flat on our faces."

Shooting in the desert of Marfa, Texas, they had to recover quickly.

"We built these sets and we were out there in costumes with cameras and everybody was standing around," Anderson said. "It's a little like, `What else are you going to do?'"

The themes in "There Will Be Blood" aren't what fans of Anderson are accustomed to. It largely deals with the heartless, indomitable will of big business in America.

Anderson, who watched John Huston's "The Treasure of Sierra Madre" (1948) repeatedly while writing "There Will Be Blood," acknowledged those ideas came out of negative thoughts about what he called the "boys network" of business today.

"It's fun thinking about that stuff: shadowy organizations, underhanded deals, investment banking I don't know," laughed Anderson. "I like Daniel Plainview a lot, and that makes it personal. He's mad and I know it and I don't want to really be hanging out with him a lot. He's great. I understand what he's going through; I understand where he's coming from."

What Anderson recognizes in Plainview is his single-mindedness in pursuit. Anderson has a reputation for fighting passionately for his films and has previously battled with studios.

His first film "Sydney" (1996) was taken away from him by the production company, Rysher Entertainment. The company changed the title to "Hard Eight" and cut it considerably. It was submitted to the Cannes Film Festival, but Anderson also sent his own cut, titled "Sydney," which the festival selected.

There were also disputes over the length of 1997's "Boogie Nights" (156 minutes) and 1999's "Magnolia" (188 minutes). But Anderson, who received a screenwriting Oscar nomination for both movies, says he now can see the point about their length.

"`Magnolia' needed it, and I certainly wish I could take 15 or 20 minutes out of that film," he said. "I don't miss scenes at all the way that I used to miss them when I was younger making a film. It's actually quite fun to get rid of them now."

"There Will Be Blood" still clocks in at 158 minutes, but Anderson said there was no friction with the studios (Paramount Vantage and Miramax Films) except for what he called "the YouTube Incident of 2007."

While editing the movie last summer, Anderson decided to enliven things by cutting a trailer, which he posted on YouTube. The simplicity of the process not dealing with the studio or the Motion Picture Association of America was "like a filmmaker's fantasy."

"And the studio went nuts," he said, smiling about his mischief. "We put it up on Friday and I remember they called on Saturday morning at 6 a.m.: `Do you know there's this thing on YouTube?' I said, `Yeah, we put it there.' They were like, `What the hell are you doing? Are you mad?'"

The trailer's warm reception pacified the executives, Anderson said, and ever since "There Will Be Blood" has rode a wave of good publicity and honors, including a Golden Globe nomination for best drama.

The whole experience reminds Anderson who has a child with his partner, "Saturday Night Live" cast member Maya Rudolph of the crazed mining of Daniel Plainview.

"You feel like a bottom feeder at the bottom of this dark tunnel, chipping away at something that you're not quite sure is there and even if it is there, you're not quite sure what it's worth," he said. "I can completely relate to that fever and insanity that happens and takes over."
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: modage on January 02, 2008, 10:57:31 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on January 02, 2008, 10:32:51 PM
"There Will Be Blood" still clocks in at 158 minutes, but Anderson said there was no friction with the studios (Paramount Vantage and Miramax Films) except for what he called "the YouTube Incident of 2007."

While editing the movie last summer, Anderson decided to enliven things by cutting a trailer, which he posted on YouTube. The simplicity of the process not dealing with the studio or the Motion Picture Association of America was "like a filmmaker's fantasy."

"And the studio went nuts," he said, smiling about his mischief. "We put it up on Friday and I remember they called on Saturday morning at 6 a.m.: `Do you know there's this thing on YouTube?' I said, `Yeah, we put it there.' They were like, `What the hell are you doing? Are you mad?'"

The trailer's warm reception pacified the executives, Anderson said, and ever since "There Will Be Blood" has rode a wave of good publicity and honors, including a Golden Globe nomination for best drama.

fuck.  that is awesome.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pubrick on January 02, 2008, 11:03:19 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on January 02, 2008, 10:32:51 PM
"`Magnolia' needed it, and I certainly wish I could take 15 or 20 minutes out of that film," he said.

B O M B S H E L L

i hope he means dixon.
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Post by: cine on January 03, 2008, 06:38:59 AM
so my favourite person in the world just got me advanced screening tickets to this tonight. hells yes.
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Post by: noyes on January 03, 2008, 11:29:04 AM
Quote from: Cinephile on January 03, 2008, 06:38:59 AM
so my favourite person in the world just got me advanced screening tickets to this tonight. hells yes.

wow. i wish i had a favorite person in the world.
that's awesome Cine.

record it like you did last time.
i look forward to your account.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: modage on January 03, 2008, 11:06:12 PM
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American Epic 'There Will Be Blood'
Director Paul Thomas Anderson and star Daniel Day-Lewis on blood, oil, and how 'Gangs of New York' probably isn't Day-Lewis's most mom-friendly performance.
Source: Premiere

Quiet, stoic, and self-reliant Daniel Plainview (Daniel Day-Lewis) rapidly transforms into a wealthy tycoon when he discovers oil in the hard scrub of Southern California and is then driven by an almost demonic desire to extract the riches from the land he has acquired, regardless of the physical and spiritual price to himself and to the people who live there. Plainview eventually meets his match in the supposedly unassuming and deeply religious Eli Sunday (Paul Dano), a young yet quietly ambitious preacher in the charismatic tradition. The two recognize the same desire and ambition for power in one another and become locked in a bitter struggle that will bleed from one century into another.

The origins of There Will Be Blood can be traced to a bookstore in London, where homesick Paul Thomas Anderson spotted the Upton Sinclair novel Oil!, which then became an unlikely life raft for the struggling writer/director.

"I had been trying to write something, anything — just to get something written," Anderson says. "I had a story that wasn't really working. It was about two families, fighting. It just had that premise. And when I read the book, there were so many ready-made scenes and the great venue of the oil fields and all that. So those are all of the obvious things that seemed worth making a film about."

Anderson explains that he quickly became engrossed in the book's early focus on rural California and the proliferation of derricks and oil fields as prospectors began crisscrossing the state. But he was reluctant to turn the film into a didactic treatise on power, capitalism, and religion, despite the fact that the source novel is rich with allusions to the big issues that confronted America's rapid expansion.

"[I was] aware of it [enough] to know that if we indulged too much in it or let that stuff rise to the top that it could get kind of murky. And it [becomes] a slippery slope when you start thinking about something other than just a good battle between two guys that see each other for what they are. [I was] just trying to work from that first and foremost...everything that is there falls into place behind it. It would be horrible to make a political film or anything like that," he says.

With a story and a setting firmly in his mind, Anderson then realized that Blood would be the ideal chance for him to work with an actor he admired and longed to collaborate with: Daniel Day-Lewis. Day-Lewis accepted the role two years before he finally got a chance to play it and says he relished the chance to put his unique spin on Plainveiw's forceful egoism and dark misanthropy.

"I never really saw him as a miserable prick," the actor says. "The challenge, I dare say, is the same as it always is, which is just to try and discover a life that isn't your own. And Plainview, as he came to me in Paul's beautiful script, was a man whose life I didn't understand at all. It was a life that was completely mysterious to me, and that unleashed a fatal curiosity, which I had no choice but to pursue. He's just a fellow trying to make a living. I believe you see the seeds of the man you meet at the end in the man you meet at the beginning. So it never occurred to me to think that his journey was a short one."

Shooting took place primarily in Martha, Texas — the same setting for the Cohen Brothers' No Country for Old Men and, perhaps more famously, for Giant, the 1955 classic starring James Dean, Rock Hudson, and Elizabeth Taylor. As a prospector, Plainview works the unyielding earth in solitude and, in an early scene in the film, falls down a mineshaft and breaks his leg. Taking on the role of Plainview was not just a physically demanding part; it also permitted Day-Lewis to experience first-hand the difficulties with which early pioneers of oil drilling struggled in order to learn and ultimately excel.

"When you discover Plainview at the beginning, he's almost learning himself how to do it. Anyone can swing an axe or a sledge. They kind of just made it up as they went along. Before cable rotary drilling became common use, they began by scooping this muck as it erupted out of the earth, scooping it up in saucepans and buckets. And then someone had the bright idea of trying to set up an A-frame and plunge the equivalent of a telegraph pole down into the ground. It was incredibly primitive. As the story progresses, then, there is something to learn about because the drilling procedure is a fairly complicated thing. But at the beginning it's just sheer blood and sweat," Day-Lewis says.

As Anderson began piecing his film together, it became clear that his minimal use of dialogue and vast open spaces would put a big burden on the score. Much of the energy and the pacing of the film would come from its music, so Anderson decided that a traditional composer might not be the most effective choice. Instead, he turned to Jonny Greenwood, guitarist for Radiohead, a British rock band known for its experimentation.

"[Greenwood] had a couple of pieces that existed before, that he had written for orchestra," Anderson says. "But he has written a few orchestral pieces I had heard that I thought were terrific. He also did an experimental film called Bodysong that he did the score for. I gave him a copy of the movie and then about three weeks later he came back with about two hours of music. I have no idea of how or when he did it, but he did it. It is kind of amazing. I cannot say that I did any real guiding or had any real contribution to it, except just to take what he gave us and find the right places for it."

Day-Lewis also found himself awestruck by Greenwood, in particular his self-taught technique: "The funniest thing about Johnny is that he didn't study composition. He studied violin, and then he went into the band, and the band became his life, but somehow along the way he taught himself composition. And he is the resident composer for the BBC Symphony Orchestra. [He] played a lot of the music, and scored the whole thing himself. I don't know how he did that."

But perhaps the film's greatest revelation is Dillon Freasier, who makes his film debut as H.W., Plainview's "son" and partner. When one of his workers is killed in a mining accident, Plainview decides to raise the man's boy as his own, and the pair travel around California in a Ford Model T, encouraging farmers and ranchers to sell their oil-rich properties at bargain-basement rates. During negotiations, Plainview exploits the boy's innocent looks to curry favor with women and Christian families. But when H.W. loses his hearing in an oil derrick explosion, Plainview is not emotionally equipped to deal with a handicapped child and partner.

"We did start out in Los Angeles and New York," says Anderson of the struggle to find an actor suited to the role, "reading young men with headshots, and that kind of thing, and resumes, and we thought that they should be sent to their rooms. We thought we needed a boy from Texas who knew how to shoot shotguns and live in that world. Casting director Cassandra Kulukundis asked around at the schools. She said: 'I am looking for a man in a young boy's body.' And one principal said: 'I have just the boy.' And it was Dillon."

Anderson didn't have Freasier read scenes, but simply talked with him about the part and says, "It was pretty clear that he was a very special young man. He took to it really well." Freasier, who had never been on a movie set or even seen a movie camera, reportedly loved the experience, and costar Day-Lewis says they immediately connected.

"I felt very close to Dillon, very fond of him," the veteran actor says. "He's a cowboy. His father is a rancher. Dillon has got his rodeo buckles. He's won numerous events. He does the round-ups. He's the real thing, and so he has this strange maturity that's very unusual."

According to Day-Lewis, Freasier had an insatiable curiosity for everything that happened on set, constantly absorbing new information "with such excitement and vision." But, adds Anderson, when it came to those scenes where he was expected to vent his physical frustration, he needed just a little push of encouragement — and a helping hand from mom.

"He had to struggle with Ciaran [Hinds] and he had to slap Daniel. He didn't like to do it initially," Anderson says of instructing Freasier to hit Day-Lewis across the face as hard as possible. The director recalls that it was only when Freasier's mother said, "You'd better do it, Dillon. They told you to do it. You can do it. It's okay," that the newly minted actor mustered the willpower to strike.

"His mom just raised him so beautifully and very respectfully," Day-Lewis says. "[She] is a state trooper and she wanted to do things right. And thought [that] she'd better check out this bunch that were going to be taking care of her son. So she went and got Gangs of New York. She was absolutely appalled. She thought she was releasing her child into the hands of this monster, and so there was a flurry of phone calls, and so somebody sent a copy of The Age of Innocence to her. Apparently," he laughs, "that did the trick."
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Post by: OrHowILearnedTo on January 04, 2008, 01:26:07 AM
Ebert's Review:
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080103/REVIEWS/801030301 (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080103/REVIEWS/801030301)

Does 3 1/2 stars mean hes lost it?
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Post by: Pubrick on January 04, 2008, 01:50:21 AM
Quote from: OrHowILearnedTo on January 04, 2008, 01:26:07 AM
Does 3 1/2 stars mean hes lost it?

half a star off cos it doesn't hav any chicks. dude's a total perv.

EDIT: holy shit i was kidding when i wrote that, then i read his review.

his reason why CMBB is not "perfect": "its lack of women".. geez, sorry you couldn't get your rocks off, roger.
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Post by: MacGuffin on January 04, 2008, 11:37:09 AM
"Blood" filmmakers renovate mansion and Texan ranch
Source: Reuters


**SPOILERS**





How's this for a grisly coincidence: The violent climax to "There Will Be Blood," featuring Daniel Day-Lewis as an aged oil baron, was shot at Greystone Mansion. The famed Beverly Hills building was built by oil tycoon Edward Doheny in the 1920s for his son, who died in a murder-suicide.

The 55-room mansion has been used in many films, including the "Ghostbusters" movies and "Batman & Robin," and as the site for Hollywood weddings. While the "Blood" filmmakers transformed one room into a beautiful study, their biggest coup was discovering, and then refurbishing, the mansion's lost and dilapidated bowling alley.

"It was just an empty shell of a room," producer JoAnne Sellar said. "The structure was there, but it had deteriorated over the years. There wasn't anything of the bowling alley left."

With some elbow grease, the production refurbished it to what it would have looked like back in the mansion's heyday.

"It's still there now," she said. "We left it up for people to see."

BLOOD FLOWS TO TEXAS

While "There Will Be Blood" is set during the turn-of-the-century California oil rush, writer/director Paul Thomas Anderson and his production team had to leave the state to find its locations.

"We scouted all over California looking for a California that doesn't exist anymore," said Sellar. "There's always a Burger King or a Starbucks or a freeway in the way. You can't get away from it. We couldn't have a 360 (degree) view."

The production scouted nearby states, but what Anderson was looking for was something that would give his vision "scope," Sellar said. Then they came across some pictures sent by the Texas Film Commission of a private ranch near a small town named Marfa. Anderson was intrigued enough to travel there, and as they say in the biz, he "fell in love with the place."

The ranch had the vistas that approximated the long-lost California, the space to build all the sets and the needed privacy. It even had a private rail line that was only used a couple times a month.

But the hard work was just about to begin: The production had to create an entire community from scratch. Under the guidance of production designers, carpenters reported for duty three months before the start of principal photography to build the town of Little Boston, the train depot and the home of preacher Eli Sunday (Paul Dano). The production even constructed a life-size oil derrick, designed to historic specifications, that they burned down for one of the film's key scenes.

"Everything you see on the film was built," Sellar said. "There was nothing there; it was just an empty piece of land."

That empty piece of land also happened to be in the middle of nowhere. The nearest airport was three hours away in El Paso, and there weren't any local crews to speak of, thus necessitating transporting everything into a town of 2,000 people.

But the remoteness of the production helped the actors, Sellar said. "When you went to work on this ranch, you felt you were going back in time," she said. "There were no distractions, and we were totally in the movie. When we did come back to L.A., it was a culture shock because you got so used to living in that environment."
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Post by: MacGuffin on January 04, 2008, 12:01:39 PM
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'Tell the story! Tell the story!'
With his "big oil epic" starring Daniel Day Lewis, Paul Thomas Anderson is no longer American cinema's enfant terrible. All he wants to do now is spin a good yarn, he tells Ed Pilkington
Source: The Guardian

**READ AT OWN RISK**

It is 10 years since Paul Thomas Anderson first left audiences and critics dumbstruck and confounded with his breakthrough film Boogie Nights, when he was just 27. How could such a pipsqueak of a director, they asked back in 1997, create a masterpiece that wowed right from its opening sequence: an audacious five-minute tracking shot that swoops and swirls through the nightclub of the film's title in joyful synchronisation to the dance music of the 1970s.

He has astonished ever since. Magnolia, the next out of the blocks, was an even bigger, more complex and yet richly evocative film that belied any attempt to categorise it. He was 31 by then, but still people marvelled at how one so young could conjure up such accomplished work. Anderson appeared to have found his style - the repertory film in which a multitude of characters and plot-lines are interwoven. But then in 2002 he bamboozled us again. He threw out the repertory technique and opted instead for a radically scaled-down and linear story in Punch-Drunk Love. It ran at a conventional 90 minutes - half the length of Magnolia - and though the film was anything but conventional, it left many fans delighted, others disappointed.

This year we are seeing the release of his fifth feature, There Will Be Blood, and it feels like an important moment. At 37, he's no longer the precocious youth. He has proved himself to be a director of formidable imagination and ambition, but we're waiting to see what he will do with such gifts. Will he have the resources to amaze us one more time?

It has to be said that the figure of the man sitting in front of me when we meet in a hotel in New York does not generate huge confidence. Others have remarked that PT Anderson in person looks weirdly fragile for such a titan of the cinema, but today he's beyond fragile. He is a wreck. He's unshaven. His brown shirt is more crumpled than linen fashionably should be. His posture is crumpled too. When later I play the tape of our conversation back, the first sound he makes that I hear him utter can roughly be transcribed as "Ooooooh" - a guttural, heartfelt expression of pain.

But, to be fair, it is the morning after the premiere of There Will Be Blood and PTA is, by his own admittance, worse for wear. Even so he is swaddled in an almost visible happy glow. The previous night, he tells me, represented the fulfilment of a childhood dream: to have his film shown at the New York Ziegfeld cinema. "I'd always wanted it, dreamed about it. It's a palace, a great old movie palace. I dare say we won't be making a big oil epic any time in the future and you think, 'Fuck! Hopefully it can play in a place like that.' It was massive, and we turned it up real loud."

What he describes as his "big oil epic" has been making waves even before it opened in America on Boxing Day. The LA Film Critics Association gave it four awards including best picture and director, and it has been nominated for two Golden Globes. Not bad going, I say, in an attempt to cheer up the suffering figure before me. "Yeah, you get it into your head that they don't matter, but then they give these awards to you and you love it," he says.

The inspiration for There Will Be Blood came to him a few years ago when he was in London. He says he had been feeling homesick for California's San Fernando Valley where he grew up and which famously forms the backdrop to all his earlier films. He had started writing a script about two warring families - a conceit that he liked, but he was struggling to know how to develop the story. He was browsing in a bookshop in Covent Garden when he saw a book with the word Oil! in bright red letters on the cover. It was the 1927 novel by Upton Sinclair set in California at the turn of the century among oil prospectors scrambling to buy up the fields. It rang instant bells with him; not only as a piece of his own local history, but as a perfect backdrop to his story about fighting families.

The result is a film that certainly does amaze, and bears several of the PTA hallmarks: breathtaking confidence, a love of acting and of visual beauty, and an exceptional grasp of the art of storytelling. Yet it confounds too, though Anderson, ever the director to avoid pigeon-holing, dislikes the description of the film as a departure. "Oh, fuck, no!" he says. (There are a lot of four letter words in the course of a PTA conversation, you just have to accept that.) "Don't depart just yet! There's nothing worse than somebody saying I want to do something that's a departure."

One of the most obvious contrasts with his earlier films, apart from its glorious outdoors setting in the open desert of Texas (California is too concreted over to provide its own setting), is that There Will Be Blood is more overtly engaged with politics than his previous films. I ask him how could a movie centred on the clash between an oil prospector's desire to make it rich and a evangelical pastor's spiritual attempts to stop him be anything else?

"Of course, I'm no dummy," he says with a slight warning growl. "But there's a trap you can fall into. If you set out to make a movie about oil and religion I'm not sure you wouldn't crash the car. Fuck! It's a movie first. You have to put on a good show first, I think."

At the centre of his efforts to put on a good show is the mesmerising performance of Daniel Day-Lewis, whose tour-de-force portrayal of the rags-to-riches oil man, Daniel Plainview, has to put him in the running for an Oscar. Day-Lewis conjures up a character of primeval energy, driven by greed and hunger for power, yet capable of tenderness as well as brutality. Anderson heightens the effect by letting the camera linger on the actor long beyond the point that most directors would shout "Cut!" The opening of the film is even more audacious than Boogie Nights - for the first 15 minutes or so, no word is spoken as we watch Day-Lewis frantically dig his mine shafts, his face blackened as though he were sweating oil.

I ask Anderson what it was like working so intimately with one actor - an experience quite at contrast with the ensemble approach with which he made his name. "At best it feels that you are connected to each other. You are completely playing the same tune. There's this kind of line between myself and the camera and Daniel that's pulled tight. When it was going well it felt just like that.

"We're still trying to figure out who the girlfriend is and who the boyfriend is in this relationship. When we first met I called him a few days later and I left a message saying: 'It's your girlfriend.' It feels like that. You are in a relationship with someone so intimate, every single day. I dare say there were moments when our spouses were jealous."

There is a good deal of classic American cinema in There Will Be Blood, partly perhaps as a result of the fact that Anderson compulsively played and replayed John Huston's 1948 gem, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, as he was writing the script. He set himself the challenge of attempting to make a film as simple and direct as that, saying to me that he felt that in his previous films he had never quite managed to achieve economy in storytelling.

"Tell the story! Tell the story! That's what I saw in The Treasure of the Sierra Madre. The films that I love are very straightforward stories, like really old-fashioned stuff. I've never been a fan of whimsical or confusing storytelling." With There Will Be Blood, he says, "it was such a great feeling - cutting things out, slashing away. I didn't have any desire I might have had 10 years ago to shoot every single word that I wrote."

That ability - to slash away - comes with experience and growing confidence, I suggest, and he responds eagerly: "I think so, yeah. That's definitely what it is. You feel more comfortable in your own skin and learn that omitting things is the same as writing things."

Before we end I tell him I feel duty bound to ask him who he wants to work with next, because when the Guardian asked him the same question in 2000 he uncannily replied: Adam Sandler and Daniel Day-Lewis. Would he stare into his crystal ball for us one more time? "I'd like to work with Daniel Day-Lewis again," he says, forcing me to tell him that's not allowed. On his second attempt he says: "I'd love to work with Phil [Seymour] Hoffman again, and at some point Robert De Niro. That's as good as they get, right?"

And what kind of film does he have in mind? Has he another itch that he needs to scratch? "I'm already scratching," he replies. "I'm thinking: 'That's enough of that, get back to work! Let's go!'"

· There Will Be Blood is released on February 8
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 04, 2008, 08:34:29 PM
I'll attempt brief a spoiler-free review. My very spoilerish thoughts are in HW.

This is a new PTA. I think everyone who's read about how he wanted to try a new way of filmmaking (which I just did now) knows this already. It's not stylized. It's trim and masterful, intense only where it needs to be, much like Barry Lyndon. And while that lack of flashiness is initially disappointing, it works. This one will endure.
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Post by: cinemanarchist on January 05, 2008, 03:45:15 AM
The other major story of the weekend is the wildly successful expansion of Paul Thomas Anderson's There Will Be Blood (Paramount Vantage). Adding 49 screens Friday, the searing period drama still impressed with a stunning $5,600+ PTA. With Daniel Day Lewis giving perhaps his best-ever performance, Blood is an arthouse blockbuster, and its headed for an estimated weekend of just over $1M and a 3-day PTA of $21,000 or so.

Source: www.slashfilm.com
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Post by: picolas on January 05, 2008, 03:24:58 PM
get this

i googled '"there will be blood" advance screening vancouver'

first hit is a local tv station contest. i click. i get 'PAGE NOT FOUND'.

i figure the contest has either been cancelled or it's over. but i go back and click 'cached' anyway, and enter the contest through that.

on wednesday, a message is left on my phone telling me i won. i strongly believe this is because i was one of if not the only person to enter the contest because the contest is virtually unenterable and there is no advertising for it.

but somehow i never see or retrieve the message.

today, my finger accidentally slips on the review messages button whilst doing something else and i hear the glorious news. i'm seeing it monday.
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Post by: noyes on January 05, 2008, 08:03:30 PM
Quote from: picolas on January 05, 2008, 03:24:58 PM
i'm seeing it monday.

haha. that's awesome Picolas.
enjoy.
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Post by: MacGuffin on January 05, 2008, 09:54:49 PM
SCENE STEALER: 'There Will Be Blood'
Source: Los Angeles Times

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Building a believable oil rig that actually erupts before catching fire was only half the challenge faced by special effects supervisor Steve Cremin on Paul Thomas Anderson's "There Will Be Blood." The other 50% was making it environmentally safe. Cremin's previous gusher, for the 2005 Gulf War film "Jarhead," provided the template -- with one big difference. "This time, we had to have oil coming out that wasn't burning, which then ignited on-camera," he says.

The derrick was constructed in Marfa, Texas, close to where James Dean's "Giant" did its own drilling. Back then, it was common to shoot gasoline skyward then light it at the director's command. These days, what goes up better not come down. "The Texas Environmental Quality people tested the soil for a baseline before shooting; afterwards, they came back to verify that we had not added any gas to the soil. If the air and fuel mixture becomes too rich, unburned fuel will fall on the ground. Spilled gas requires a toxic cleanup. That's a no-no."

The trick is to achieve 100% burn -- easy with a 3-inch propane torch, not so easy if your fire must dwarf an 80-foot derrick. "Gallons of gas might not ignite. Everything that goes up the pipe has to burn or you get shut down," Cremin says. Here's how he created the scene without drawing environmental ire.

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Cremin's problems began before construction coordinator Bill Holmquist's four-man crew even completed the wooden derrick. A local drilling company excavated a 25-foot-deep hole with a 12-inch diameter in the solid granite ground, which Cremin intended for a sealed line reservoir. "The nightmare began when we found the hole was drilled crooked," Cremin says. "We literally turned our 12-inch pipe into a drill bit, put it on a hoist, and hand-drove it into the ground. That three-day delay was pretty painful."

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Cremin and production designer Jack Fisk searched local junkyards for genuine pump-jack parts. Cremin converted an old steam engine to run on compressed air so the pump was working while the oil was spurting. "When the drill hits a gas pocket, the bit shoots out, followed by water and oil. I don't know that anyone's ever seen that in a movie."

As for environmentally friendly oil? "We used a water-based food additive" -- methylcellulose, a thickener found in McDonald's shakes -- "and edible, food-grade dye that fades in sunlight."

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Cremin's team rigged parallel lines to switch from water to fuel so the gusher could catch fire as cameras rolled. But the producers' decision to construct a real wood derrick meant Cremin got just one take. "We had four separate ignition systems in case one failed. The last ditch was a road flare at the very bottom, so if any gas touched the ground, it would ignite." The result? "We got 110 feet of flame and 200 feet of black smoke. It was pretty huge."
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Post by: jigzaw on January 06, 2008, 04:20:58 PM
Gosh.  I'm a PTA fanatic in Miami (which is a huge city), and there's not a peep about "There Will Be Blood" ever opening here.  Am I shit out of luck till the DVD comes out???
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Post by: polkablues on January 06, 2008, 04:23:26 PM
Quote from: jigzaw on January 06, 2008, 04:20:58 PM
Gosh.  I'm a PTA fanatic in Miami (which is a huge city), and there's not a peep about "There Will Be Blood" ever opening here.  Am I shit out of luck till the DVD comes out???

Probably depends on how well it performs in the city's it's currently playing in.  So if the sold-out crowd I saw the movie with in Seattle last night is any indication, you might be in luck.  Keep those fingers crossed.
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Post by: hedwig on January 06, 2008, 04:44:24 PM
Quote from: jigzaw on January 06, 2008, 04:20:58 PM
Gosh.  I'm a PTA fanatic in Miami (which is a huge city), and there's not a peep about "There Will Be Blood" ever opening here.  Am I shit out of luck till the DVD comes out???
i'm betting it's gonna show here. were you at the regal south beach screening on dec 29? it was so packed they had to open up a second theatre.

i know it's opening at sunrise eleven cinema in davie on jan 11. that's not too far from miami.
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Post by: tpfkabi on January 06, 2008, 06:03:00 PM
the numbers i saw at box office mojo look very positive.
surely it will expand beyond 51 (i think that was the number of theatres this weekend).
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Post by: cine on January 06, 2008, 06:46:14 PM
Quote from: bigideas on January 06, 2008, 06:03:00 PM
the numbers i saw at box office mojo look very positive.
surely it will expand beyond 51 (i think that was the number of theatres this weekend).
yeah, he's been hitting his best numbers.. this is gonna be his best film box office-wise as well as with OSCAR.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 06, 2008, 06:53:21 PM
I saw the movie at 1:15 on a Friday afternoon in a semi-large single-screen theater (this one (http://www.landmarktheatres.com/Market/Minneapolis/UptownTheatre.htm)), and it was comfortably half full (with about 1/3 of the total seats occupied). I thought 12:45 was early, but many of the good seats were taken when I got there. I wonder what the crowd was like that night.
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Post by: polkablues on January 06, 2008, 06:56:16 PM
Quote from: Cinephile on January 06, 2008, 06:46:14 PM
this is gonna be his best film box office-wise as well as with OSCAR.

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It's the one thing he's not grouchy about.
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Post by: modage on January 06, 2008, 09:13:50 PM
After opening with the highest per-theater averages of 2007, P.T. Anderson's fifth feature There Will Be Blood (Paramount Vantage) added 49 more theaters in select cities to bring in $1.3 million over the first weekend of 2008.
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Post by: Gamblour. on January 08, 2008, 09:06:35 AM
This Friday, I Will See Blood.
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Post by: diggler on January 08, 2008, 01:16:53 PM
damn it, how much longer am i gonna have to wait to see this thing?
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Post by: Alexandro on January 08, 2008, 05:44:53 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on January 04, 2008, 01:50:21 AM
Quote from: OrHowILearnedTo on January 04, 2008, 01:26:07 AM
Does 3 1/2 stars mean hes lost it?

half a star off cos it doesn't hav any chicks. dude's a total perv.

EDIT: holy shit i was kidding when i wrote that, then i read his review.

his reason why CMBB is not "perfect": "its lack of women".. geez, sorry you couldn't get your rocks off, roger.

it's definetely a badly written review. i love ebert, but he seems to be praising the film and then suddenly makes it feel as if the flick "ain't that bad", which sounds ridiculous.

it is true that in the last few years this guys has had a soft spot for hot chicks in movies, and that's sort of disturbing. i was sure that, with the insane amount of four stars review he's been dispatching lately this film would certainly be there.
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Post by: Ravi on January 08, 2008, 06:42:35 PM
Quote from: Alexandro on January 08, 2008, 05:44:53 PM
it is true that in the last few years this guys has had a soft spot for hot chicks in movies, and that's sort of disturbing. i was sure that, with the insane amount of four stars review he's been dispatching lately this film would certainly be there.

If CMBB had a lesbian love scene he would have given it four stars.
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Post by: Gamblour. on January 08, 2008, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: Ravi on January 08, 2008, 06:42:35 PM
Quote from: Alexandro on January 08, 2008, 05:44:53 PM
it is true that in the last few years this guys has had a soft spot for hot chicks in movies, and that's sort of disturbing. i was sure that, with the insane amount of four stars review he's been dispatching lately this film would certainly be there.

If CMBB had a lesbian love scene he would have given it four stars.

It doesn't??  :yabbse-thumbdown: :yabbse-thumbdown:
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Post by: Pozer on January 10, 2008, 10:34:08 PM
Quote from: noyes on December 22, 2007, 12:02:59 PM
is it just me, or is that brown long-sleeve/blue t-shirt the only shirts that Paul owns?

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seriously.

soon im gonna compile all the pix of him from different events/photo shoots wearing that brown long-sleeve shirt.
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Post by: Pubrick on January 11, 2008, 12:13:42 AM
oh come on, he does hav some variety

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Post by: Ravi on January 11, 2008, 03:19:27 PM
Can't spell "pirate" without PTA.

That jokes has multiple layers since he is bootlegging The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Gamblour. on January 12, 2008, 09:31:38 AM
So I've seen it. I'll just describe some things, experiences I had. (right now, I can hear a train whistle and I feel like I'm standing on those tracks in the film)

A few facts to begin: I have avoided EVERY single piece of information about the film, except the trailer. I abstained from reading any article or listening or watching to any other form of media. I knew nothing about this film, except what I remember from the trailer. "I like to go in fresh" as Frank Costanza would say.

Watcing: So I was sitting 6 rows from the front of the theater, but not too close to the screen. Sitting through that overcooked trailer for "Funny Games", not fully understanding it's been 4 years (?) since I bought PDL on dvd. This was the first time I was sitting in a theater watching a PTA picture. I'm more virginal than I thought.

And then those four words pop on the screen, and Johnny Greenwood's score is so loud that I feel my bones rattle, that piece on the website I had heard so often checking for midnight screening times. I begin the film by overanalyzing it, piecing each shot and comparing it to his previous films, because it's just kinda natural at the moment. I eventually let go of that because there is no real show-off moment to spot. The filmmaking is matter-of-fact, necessary, and, for those reasons, powerful. But it's because there isn't one element to stand out, not a tracking shot or the score (the score does come close) or a composition or anything like that. It's the scene before, the context, and the elements on the screen that create, perhaps the first time for PTA, the sublime image. His other films have been good, don't get me wrong, but I've always actively enjoyed watching those. This film, you sort of sit and watch it unfold, aghast. Like a genocide.

Speaking of, the film is violent. But it does not contain many violent acts. It's no where near No Country, with that large body count. But the filmmaking is fucking brutal. I left the theater feeling sick in my gut, close to throwing up, really. I had to eat something when I got home, I couldn't stomach the waves of nausea I had. Visceral isn't the right word, but it was probably like the way in Poltergeist, when the little girl runs through her mother. Though this sensation felt like dread and worse.

The film never settles for anything less than what it depicts. It's so accurate and so real to watch, you feel every second and the weight of every consequence. Even now, I have the slideshow of images and scenes flying through my head, and can't grasp what I saw. It's a superior period film, the details are so ingrained in the image, nothing seems calculated or falsified. PTA's script, I can't imagine it on paper. I wonder what DDL thought as he read it.

Daniel Day: How do you describe the best onscreen performance of all time? He will need a completely separate category for awards, because for everyone else, it's like, Here's a nod for that thing you call acting, nice try at it. DDL doesn't create a character. He doesn't create an idea, like Javier Bardem in No Country (which I loved, not trying to bash, and loved Bardem). He...fuck I can't describe it. How do you say he is the darkness, the pit of one's soul, of humanity, without sounding stupid? His is an actualization of this man named Daniel Plainview. Despair and malice, mania, sick hatred, disgust. Word salad.

Dano: He pulls off a performance opposite DDL and doesn't fuck it up, he did great. He's powerful and feeble and perfect.

The score: It adds so much to the film, which would've worked without a score probably. The fact that it draws attention to itself in some scenes only enlightens what's happening onscreen, because often it's completely what you wouldn't expect, and you realize you're hearing and seeing something in a combination like never before, and the moment is wholly unique.

Alright. I feel slightly drained and out of words. I hope this benefits those who haven't seen it. I tried to write up some initial thoughts here and be vivid about the experience, but it was an experience that I can explain but never really describe. I have lots of threads, articles, podcasts, videos, etc to catch up on.

Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Fernando on January 12, 2008, 01:32:03 PM
Do you know how lucky all of you R1 bastards are? (movie releases wise) Of course you don't! Then let me tell you something, do you know what is the 'big' opening of the week here?  The Black FUCKING Dahlia!!!

Of course I'll make the trip to the states when cmbb opens in the nearest city but still, in order to not wait months to see it I'll be spending close to $200 (or more) that includes, gas, tolls, car insurance, ticket and meals, for that price I should be aloud to sleep between maya and pta.


*sigh* I needed to get all that off my chest, I feel better already.

xixax: a place to vent.  :yabbse-smiley:
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: cine on January 12, 2008, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: Gamblour. on January 12, 2008, 09:31:38 AM
So I've seen it. I'll just describe some things, experiences I had.

k but for the record, nobody is discussing the movie in this thread.. they're posting that stuff here (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=9970) and have been all along.  :yabbse-undecided:
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Gamblour. on January 12, 2008, 01:56:02 PM
Uh.

Quote from: Gamblour. on January 12, 2008, 09:31:38 AM
I hope this benefits those who haven't seen it.

Non spoiler reviews aren't good anymore? Besides, that thread is huge, I need to read it first.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: tpfkabi on January 12, 2008, 02:45:13 PM
DDL called Paul his 'evil twin brother' in his Critic's Choice acceptance speech.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: hedwig on January 12, 2008, 03:16:31 PM
Quote from: bigideas on January 12, 2008, 02:45:13 PM
DDL called Paul his 'evil twin brother' in his Critic's Choice acceptance speech.
the speech in shit quality youtube clip. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZd1Wnvs_LY)
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: B.C. Long on January 12, 2008, 03:33:24 PM
So a screener that actually works this time. For Realz. This ain't no 12.2% tease.

http://www.newtorrents.info/torrent/34591/There.Will.Be.Blood.TELECINE.XViD-PUKKA.html
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: picolas on January 12, 2008, 04:04:36 PM
Quote from: Gamblour. on January 12, 2008, 01:56:02 PM
Uh.

Quote from: Gamblour. on January 12, 2008, 09:31:38 AM
I hope this benefits those who haven't seen it.

Non spoiler reviews aren't good anymore? Besides, that thread is huge, I need to read it first.

i think people should feel free to post non-spoiler reviews in here. it's for non-spoilers and those who haven't seen the movie. that never changed.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: cine on January 12, 2008, 04:10:34 PM
thats fine, i'd read it the post.. i was making it clear nobody's discussing it because some people forget theres another thread. i know that wasn't you but it was a courtesy heads up nonetheless.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Stefen on January 12, 2008, 05:15:47 PM
Quote from: B.C. Long on January 12, 2008, 03:33:24 PM
So a screener that actually works this time. For Realz. This ain't no 12.2% tease.

http://www.newtorrents.info/torrent/34591/There.Will.Be.Blood.TELECINE.XViD-PUKKA.html

How's the quality? Telecines are usually shit.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: picolas on January 12, 2008, 05:20:40 PM
imdb:

QuoteNUKED, NUKED, NUKED AND NUKED! Here is why:
This release cut-off several scenes, which can be noticed from an abrupt scene change at these times: 00:11:39 CD1; 00:54:28 CD2.
The audio on CD2 is out of sync (I corrected it with a -335ms time shift).
Most importantly, the ending is FUBARED. The events in the last 15 minutes of the film are completely out of order (the chronology is blatantly wrong); and this release cuts-off the last 30 seconds of the film.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: SiliasRuby on January 12, 2008, 06:32:58 PM
This is the best review of the film: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsisA-Qc198
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: picolas on January 12, 2008, 07:24:09 PM
speaking of youtube reviews

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et9IQ0Mx77s

"PTA got lucky."
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: B.C. Long on January 12, 2008, 09:33:52 PM
Quote from: SiliasRuby on January 12, 2008, 06:32:58 PM
This is the best review of the film: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsisA-Qc198

Funny thing is...I've met her briefly at a runway show. Too bad everything she says is written by someone else.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: tpfkabi on January 12, 2008, 09:38:48 PM
Quote from: Hedwig on January 12, 2008, 03:16:31 PM
Quote from: bigideas on January 12, 2008, 02:45:13 PM
DDL called Paul his 'evil twin brother' in his Critic's Choice acceptance speech.
the speech in shit quality youtube clip. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZd1Wnvs_LY)

when i posted i was watching the rebroadcast waiting to see if PT got best director......i was shocked to see that he wasn't even nominated.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: Pwaybloe on January 12, 2008, 11:56:29 PM
I got my advance screening tickets in the mail today, so I'm seeing it Thursday. 

I've got an extra ticket (good for two admissions) if anybody in the Knoxville, TN area wants to go.  Send me an email ASAP, and I can mail it to you. 
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: hedwig on January 13, 2008, 02:24:42 AM
Quote from: Satcho9 on January 13, 2008, 02:17:08 AM
Pardon me if this has been posted before...

that should only be posted in the HW forum. the entire website is a SPOILER.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: modage on January 13, 2008, 07:32:33 PM
can't remember if these have been posted. 

Movieweb video interviews with

DDL: http://www.movieweb.com/video/V07L01dhmotGKS

Dano: http://www.movieweb.com/video/V07LMgYXZfBxGQ
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on January 14, 2008, 12:19:01 AM
A rush of 'Blood'
Anderson film fuels strong in specialty frame

The specialty biz had a strong weekend at the B.O., led by "There Will Be Blood," which successfully expanded to 129 locations in 25 markets, averaging a robust $15,039 to reach $4.4 million overall.

Paul Thomas Anderson's oil epic will broaden out Friday to 375-400 locations in 75 markets, the stiffest test yet for the Paramount Vantage/Miramax co-venture. While early returns are strong, it is an open question whether smaller cities will spark to the film, whose 158-minute running time and dark, violent mood could be hurdles.

On the flip side, star Daniel Day-Lewis has garnered an array of early awards for his work in the pic, which itself has claimed many prizes from critics and other groups.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: tpfkabi on January 14, 2008, 07:40:04 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin on January 14, 2008, 12:19:01 AM
Paul Thomas Anderson's oil epic will broaden out Friday to 375-400 locations in 75 markets

come on my way, baby...
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: idk on January 14, 2008, 10:02:47 PM
Paul Dano was on Fresh Air Jan.8th, so thats on itunes for downloading. There are spoilers within the convo.
Title: Re: There Will Be Blood - now with child/partner forum we call H.W.
Post by: MacGuffin on January 14, 2008, 11:45:35 PM
The enigma of Day-Lewis
He has been hailed as one of Britain's greatest actors ever since he lit up the screen in My Beautiful Laundrette 22 years ago. He won an Oscar soon after for My Left Foot, and is now heavily tipped for another for his towering performance as a pioneering oilman in the epic There Will Be Blood. Whatever the role, Day-Lewis inhabits it heart and soul. Eccentric? Obsessed? Not so, he tells Peter Stanford, inviting him to his home in Ireland to dispel a few myths...
Source: The Observer

Daniel Day-Lewis is brewing up in the homely basement kitchen of his country house in rural Ireland. 'Actors,' he muses as he pours the boiling water on to the tea bag in the mug, 'should never give interviews. Once you know what colour socks they wear, you'll remember it next time you see them performing, and it will get in the way. It is not in anyone's interest.'

As the preamble to an interview it is not promising, but Day-Lewis has been in the film business for more than 20 years since he first made headlines as the gay hoodlum in My Beautiful Laundrette in 1985, and so knows that, as part of what he labels 'the fatuous science of marketing', talking about himself goes with the territory.

The driver who fetched me from Dublin airport to take me to the actor's home in the heart of the Wicklow mountains is one Day-Lewis himself uses regularly. As we pass through one village en route he points out the pub. 'That's where Daniel sometimes likes to stop for a drink.' With any other film star you can imagine it being something of a visitation, complete with cameras and a blue plaque afterwards. But the man behind the wheel makes it clear that with Day-Lewis it is just what he says it is - dropping in for a pint with an old friend. He has no truck with the trappings of celebrity.

The point is emphasised when we arrive, through woods and via a gently rising track, at the house he shares with his wife, the writer and director Rebecca Miller, daughter of Arthur Miller (they met in 1996 when he was filming an adaptation of The Crucible) and their two young sons, Ronan and Cashel. From the outside its modest Georgian good looks - door in the middle and a window on either side, like the Play School house - suggest the perfect residence for Cecil Vyse, the pompous suitor that Day-Lewis played in the 1986 Merchant Ivory adaptation of EM Forster's A Room with a View. But inside, it is just like any other large, modern family home - children's toys lying about, holiday pictures, coats, caps, scarves, boots, cats, all the paraphernalia of a 'normal' existence.

Day-Lewis once remarked of himself that he had made a 'lifelong study in evasion', and the process of publicising a film is clearly not one he enjoys. It makes him sound grudging about the invasion of his privacy, and generally grumpy - which today couldn't be further from the truth. There is rather an old-fashioned courtliness about him as he leads me, clutching my tea and biscuits, up the curving stone staircase to his green-painted, book-littered ground-floor study. But the remark has lived on - it is quoted on various websites dedicated to the enigma of Day-Lewis - because it chimes readily with the popular image of him, namely that, for all his extraordinary talent, he is a tortured genius, living the life of a recluse, reluctantly breaking cover once every few years to inhabit body and soul hugely demanding screen roles such as Gerry Conlon, victim of a spectacular miscarriage of justice, in In the Name of the Father (1993), or Christy Brown, the Irish writer and painter, born with cerebral palsy, in My Left Foot (1989), or Bill 'The Butcher' in Martin Scorsese's Gangs of New York (2002).

To which impressive list, next month, will be added Daniel Plainview, pioneering oilman, in Paul Thomas Anderson's There Will Be Blood. It is a a visionary, rivetingly strange film centring on Day-Lewis's towering, intensely physical portrait of a haunted and haunting man who strikes it rich in California in the early 1900s. Day-Lewis, who does all his own stunts, is in shot for virtually every one of the 158 minutes running length. It has already won him critics' awards, a nomination for a Golden Globe and talk of a second Oscar to go with the one for My Left Foot. All three New York Times movie critics chose him last week as their top candidate to win best actor this year.

People do cling to the 'mad bastard' stereotype of him, Day-Lewis acknowledges, as we settle in front of the fire. He laughs, a self-deprecating, chuckle at the irony of it all. 'How can you be a recluse,' he asks, 'in a house full of children, even if you had the inclination to be, which I don't? '

Before we go any further I should declare an interest. I've been in this house before, when researching a biography of Day-Lewis's father, the Anglo-Irish poet laureate Cecil Day-Lewis. We talked at length about the family history as Daniel went about his domestic routine, even offering at one stage to take me for a spin on one of his beloved motor bikes. As a father himself - he also has a 12-year-old son, Gabriel-Kane, with the French actress Isabelle Adjani - Daniel looked back on his own childhood, growing up in Greenwich, south London, in the shadow of his feted father. When Day-Lewis was named laureate at the start of 1968, the family home was besieged and the papers were full of pictures of the poet, his wife - the actress Jill Balcon - and their two smiling young children, Daniel and his sister, Tamasin, now a documentary-maker and food writer. The London Evening Standard headlined it: 'A Swinging laureate for the Swinging Sixties.'

Though Day-Lewis died of cancer just four years later, when Daniel was only 15, their two stories are inevitably entwined. Day-Lewis senior, for example, wrote one of his better poems, 'The Newborn', to celebrate the arrival of his son in 1957, including the prophetic lines:


This morsel of man I've held -
What potency it has,
Though strengthless still and naked as
A nut unshelled!


Many assume the best-remembered Day-Lewis poem, 'Walking Away' - about a parent waving a child off at the school gate and musing on 'How selfhood begins with a walking away/ And love is proved in the letting ago' - is about Daniel. It was, however, penned much earlier, about Sean, Day-Lewis's son from his first marriage.

One of the reasons Daniel Day-Lewis now lives in Ireland, he says, is the memory of happy childhood summer holidays in County Mayo when his father would return to the land of his birth. 'I have many images that come from that time,' he recalls. 'The light, the smell, the utter delight with which we would fly out of the car as soon as we arrived and dive into the nearest bit of the Atlantic. The power of them remains undiminished. Life in England was, by comparison, a little colourless. Ireland was a place for the renewal of hope and I still see it like that. It was the place we were all together as a family. And it was like a secret garden. Making a conscious decision to live in a place means you are going to take the mystery out of it to some extent, but you can never entirely do that here. It's one of the great qualities of this place. When people say you're mad here, it's a compliment.'

Directly above where Day-Lewis sits in an armchair next to the fireplace there is a picture frame tucked on to a bookshelf in front of an old Joan Armatrading album. It contains two photographs, one of his mother, taken in the late 1940s when she made an eye-catching film debut as Madeleine Bray alongside Sybil Thorndike in Nicholas Nickleby. Her son has inherited her blue-black hair and striking good looks, though his eyes are grey to her liquorice.

The other is of his father. There is something of him, too, in his son, perhaps more markedly as he gets older - a craggy, lined handsomeness that had Rebecca West remark of the poet laureate that he was 'like a Greek Apollo, with some irregularities set in to make him look not too bright and good for human nature's daily food'.

That cragginess adds power to Day-Lewis's performance in the second half of There Will Be Blood when Daniel Plainview discovers that sudden wealth has a heavy toll as he descends into paranoia and barbarity. The themes of oil, greed and unbridled capitalism in the film have a strongly contemporary echo, especially at a time when America and its allies are embroiled in a conflict in Iraq that many believe is all about oil. But they were not, he says, what attracted Day-Lewis to the part.

'It was Paul [writer-director Paul Thomas Anderson] really, in the form of his script,' he explains. 'I'd loved his films [Punch-Drunk Love, Magnolia, Boogie Nights]. And the idea had occurred to me that we might enjoy getting up to the same kind of mischief, but when this script came it really took me quite by surprise in the most wonderful way. The bag was packed once I'd read it.'

He makes it sound rather like a boy's own adventure and, although he turned 50 last year, there is something youthful about the tall, lean Day-Lewis. His long black hair has only the lightest dusting of grey. His two hooped gold earrings caused one visitor recently to describe him as looking like a bohemian pirate. And his Triumph T-shirt, worn with jeans (I'm not going to reveal the colour of his socks), goes with his love of motorbikes.

The parallels that can be drawn from Plainview's story must, I suggest, have given the script added pulling power. 'Paul's not unaware of what is going on in the world but our focus had to be a much narrower and more selfish one,' Day-Lewis replies. 'If you enter into the realm of trying to create a parable or cautionary tale, you've already strayed so far off course that you might as well stay in bed. So no, it was utterly and specifically that man in that story in that place at that time in America's social history.'

So what precisely was it about Plainview and his story that persuaded Day-Lewis to abandon Ireland and uproot his family for several months of life on a film set in Texas? He pauses. 'I wouldn't know what to say really.' The soft Irish lilt in his voice is as far removed as can be from the precise but hard-edged bark of Plainview. 'It is one of the blessings of that situation where you feel drawn irrevocably towards the discovery of a life as your own begins to recede behind you.' It is an arresting image for the acting process, and gets to the heart of the Day-Lewis method.

'Can I ask you about your method?' I venture. 'God help you,' Day-Lewis responds, but he says it not with exasperation - as when Harold Pinter is asked what his plays are about - but rather as one who clearly struggles to define it himself.

'It sounds so presumptuous to talk about it but I had a strong sense of the power of Paul's unconscious in his script and in his work. And it appealed very much to something in mine, and I never chose to define it or analyse it in any way whatsoever. He honestly told unblinkingly the story of one man's life from the first scene to this outrageous conclusion. I couldn't begin to imagine where some of that had come from because it didn't always appear to have a logic, and yet it appeared to me to have its own innate logic.'

That element of the unconscious crops up repeatedly in our conversation. And it remains, to the last, hovering in the air. To deconstruct it further might, Day-Lewis believes, somehow dissipate the magic. It is not that he is trying to be mysterious - that lifelong study in evasion - but rather that he himself finds the source of his own tremendous gift elusive. 'I've no idea what that transaction [involved in taking on a role] is all about,' he continues, 'or from where the need arises, but it is a response obviously to a very particular need at a very particular time, a need to express oneself in that way. I could dismember the script now and tell you all about its wonderful qualities but that wouldn't really tell the story of why I did it.'

Going on instinct can be a hit or miss business but in Day-Lewis's case it has served him well. He is one of the few major-league actors who has never taken on a duff role. He began acting early. After going to the local state primary school in south-east London he had struggled to adapt when sent to the private Sevenoaks School but eventually found a more congenial environment at Bedales, the progressive boarding school in Hampshire, where he joined his older sister. Drama and carpentry were twin passions. In his mother's Hampshire cottage is a beautiful circular dining table and chairs he made as a gift for her. He had the chance of developing this skill further with the offer of an apprenticeship when he left Bedales but opted instead to go to the Bristol Old Vic theatre school under the legendary Rudi Shelly. His early work was all on stage but in 1982 he had a small part in Gandhi. When My Beautiful Launderette and A Room with a View opened on the same night in New York in 1985 he made such an impact on the critics with two such different roles that he won a best supporting actor award.

After that he worked pretty constantly for the rest of the decade but took a three-year break after My Left Foot, returning in 1992 in The Last of the Mohicans, a huge box-office success. Since making The Boxer in 1997 the breaks have become longer. His sons were born in 1998 and 2002. In the latter year he made Gangs of New York and in 2005 The Ballad of Jack and Rose, written and directed by his wife, Rebecca, in a role that she had first tried to persuade him to take before they met.

'I can't re-examine work I did in the past with pride,' he says, resolutely resisting the invitation to flick through his back catalogue. 'I can only re-examine it with a kind of curiosity about the person who felt the need to do that work at that time, because you don't recognise yourself.'

He does, however, own up to one bad decision 'which I don't regret because the experience was probably one I learnt from. I was swayed by the hullabaloo surrounding The Unbearable Lightness of Being, which I was encouraged to believe every young actor was after. If I'd really shut out the din and looked at that script, I'd have known that I wasn't ready for that. I felt I was short-changing them somehow because I was missing the centre of it. It was sliding away from me.'

In the 1988 adaptation of Milan Kundera's novel set in the Prague Spring of 1968, Day-Lewis played Tomas, a Czech brain surgeon. 'It was,' he muses, 'something to do with language. The idea of speaking English with a Czech accent without actually speaking Czech meant it wasn't coming from anywhere - I knew that that kernel of truth that I need to have somewhere in a role would be missing. And apart from anything else, the exploration of sexuality in the film was just - well, I was in no way prepared for how that would feel. It was a mistake.'

The idea of learning Czech in order then to speak in English with a Czech accent would not, I suspect, enter into many actors' calculations when considering a role but another much discussed aspect of the Day-Lewis method is the preparation he puts into a role. He is reported, for instance, to have lived separately from his wife and children on the set of The Ballad of Jack and Rose. 'I did,' he says, a stickler for accuracy, 'but it was a token, symbolic separation which nevertheless to the imagination can have a powerful effect. I still saw my family every evening and spent the weekend with them but it would otherwise have been just too complicated for me to play the extremely conflicted life of Jack while in the presence of someone I was married to.'

Put that way, it sounds entirely reasonable. What then of the two days and nights in a prison cell without food or water that he endured to prepare to play the role of Gerry Conlon in In the Name of the Father (for which he earned the second of three Oscar nominations to date)? 'You have to learn,' he answers simply. 'You need to understand what it is like to be interrogated by three two-man teams over a period of two days. If an innocent man signs a confession, which pisses away his life, it is part of your responsibility to touch on why a human being would do that. So my curiosity leads me into those places. But I don't want to make too much of the details. They are just that - details. When you don't know from experience, or you can't explore through the imagination, you better do some sort of practical work that is at least going to stimulate the imagination, because finally the whole thing is just an act of imagination.'

He stops. 'It all sounds so ponderous and self-important. It's why I avoid talking about the way I work. But in avoiding it I seem only to have encouraged people to focus their fantasies about me in an ever more fantastical way on the details that are not at all at the centre of the work.'

There is, it is becoming clear, not madness but an attractive modesty about Day-Lewis. 'It wouldn't occur to me,' he explains, 'to talk about my work unless I was in an interview situation.' And indeed, during our previous meetings, he never has. 'I wouldn't see the point in trying to describe it in any way.'

The director Jim Sheridan, with whom Day-Lewis made My Left Foot, The Boxer and In the Name of the Father, once reported him as saying that he hated acting. 'I dare say I did when I said it,' he retorts good-naturedly. 'Who doesn't hate the thing that they most love? Acting is an impossibly illusive trade to ply, but the prevailing sense I have when I go to work is one of joy. It is always represented as a kind of self-flagellation for me. It couldn't be further from the truth.'

Since Day-Lewis seems in the mood to demolish some of the other 'mad bastard' stereotypes that surround him and his work, I try out a few others on him. For instance, there is the idea that, away from a film set, he retreats into another world that is as far removed from movie making as he can get. 'It is misleading,' he explains, 'to see my life in front of the camera and my life at home with my wife and children as two lives between which there is a schism. My life as it is away from movie set is a life where I follow my curiosity just as avidly as when I am working. It is with a very positive sense that I keep away from the work for a while. It has always seemed natural to me that that in turn should help me in the work that I do.'

So the Wicklow mountains, spread out magically in the winter sunshine outside the study window, aren't an escape but a source of inspiration. 'In a rural parish,' Day-Lewis explains, 'you become utterly unnoticeable. Or that's the impression I have. I couldn't work or get ready for a piece of work from a city base, from city life [though he and Miller do have a base in New York]. I need deep, deep quiet and a landscape too that I can be absorbed into. So much of the work is in the process of aimless rumination in which things may or may not take seed.'

Another of the Day-Lewis myths concerns what he calls the 'Hamlet experience'. In 1989 he was well into an extended run as Hamlet at the National Theatre when he walked off stage mid-performance and has never trod the boards since. It was reported that he had been unnerved when he felt he was talking to the ghost of his own father. 'It's not,' he recalls, 'that I appeared on stage one night and disappeared the next. I was working and living with that play for a year and a half of my life. And it's a weighty play to live with, so it didn't really surprise me that I got tired by the end.'

So tired, not haunted. Nevertheless, his feelings about theatre are mixed. He has been quoted in the past as being dismissive of the stage 'That's just me gobbing off again,' he laughs. There is, though, he admits, a problem that arises from his particular approach with the process of preparing for a role in the theatre compared with films. 'Theatre invites a nuts and bolts process to rehearsing in which all the actors are transparent to each other. For me, even if the truth I am looking for might be a specious one, I still need to believe in a kernel of truth. And I find it hard to do in a rehearsal situation where everyone is saying, "Are you going to do it like that?" It is distracting and deadly in the end to any discovery you might make. I'm never far away from a sense of potential absurdity of what I am doing, and maybe as I get older I have to work harder and harder to obliterate it. That's maybe why I seem to take it far too seriously.'

Another charge laid against Day-Lewis is that he has somehow turned his back on his home-grown film industry in favour of America. 'I am,' he acknowledges, 'rather surprised that I haven't made more stories about my own country but it is a mistake to suggest that the biggest influence on my life in terms of movies has been America. It was and remains Ken Loach and his whole body of work, not that I have ever worked with him. There is something unique and pure about the way he works, without a taint on it. His beliefs have remained unwavering since he made Cathy Come Home.'

One purist, you might conclude, admiring another. Day-Lewis is undeniably a film fanatic. He still loves, he says, wandering into a cinema and taking pot luck with whatever is on. There is something more accessible, he feels, about film than theatre. And he talks passionately about those whose work he most admires. I leave him inspired to re-examine the films of Montgomery Clift and Charles Laughton. When he talks about his own country, surely Day-Lewis must now mean Ireland? 'Yes, I do have dual citizenship, but I think of England as my country. I miss London very much but I couldn't live there because there came a time when I needed to be private and was forced to be public by the press. I couldn't deal with it.'

We're back where we began - on the wisdom of actors being public figures. Did he ever enjoy that side of his work? 'Initially it was invigorating. People suddenly wanted to hear my views on all manner of social problems. I was up for it but it palled very soon afterwards. It was not like real conversation where you listen and learn. It's hard to learn anything when you are talking about it. You only learn doing it. And if you are not learning, what's the point?'

His seriousness of purpose can, then, only be judged by its products. In the case of There Will Be Blood - a film for which it took two years to raise the money from sceptical financiers - Day-Lewis appears set to reap yet more accolades. The nominations and Oscar talk must feel like a kind of vindication. 'Well, there is some chance people may go and see it because we've been nominated before we become the losers,' Day-Lewis laughs. 'Being nominated is an ideal situation to be in. What is not helpful is being nominated and then not winning because then people think, "Oh Christ, they lost so I'll go and see something else instead."'
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Post by: MacGuffin on January 17, 2008, 12:40:37 PM
Just A Minute With: Actor Daniel Day-Lewis
By Bob Tourtellotte; Reuters

Daniel Day-Lewis is one of the top actors of his generation for a range of roles, from his Oscar-winning portrayal of a cerebral palsy victim in "My Left Foot" to currently playing "There Will Be Blood."

The latter movie stars the 50-year-old British actor as an early 20th Century oil prospector named Daniel Plainview who earns great wealth but at a personal cost to his soul.

Day-Lewis is known for delving deeply into his roles but in an interview with Reuters he was lighthearted and witty when talking about work, his new movie and life with his wife, writer/director Rebecca Miller, and the tattoos on his arms:

Q: It's been two years since we last saw you in "The Ballad of Jack and Rose," which was written and directed by Rebecca. So what've you been doing?

A: "I've been working. It's taken three years to make this film. Two years in getting ready, four or five months shooting, and a year cutting. It feels like it's been my life for three or four years now."

Q: I talked to "There Will Be Blood" writer/director Paul Thomas Anderson, and he said that you and he worked closely on the writing and the development of Daniel Plainview.

A: "Paul didn't need any help with the script. Having met and decided to throw our lot in together we, over months and months and months, we discussed the shaping of Daniel ... I could spend 10 years making a movie if it was a subject that interests me. You have to limit the shooting because you can only mine so much out of yourself. But during preparation, it is a period of nourishment."

Q: What do you do over three years to prepare and make a film?

A: "It's hard to be specific about the things one does. But each piece of work requires that you imagine a world and then you try to understand that world through the eyes and experience of a human being that isn't yourself."

Q: So, what is the world like through the eyes of Daniel Plainview in "There Will Be Blood."

A: "Some part of us is still truly animalistic. If you put any human being in certain circumstances, you'd pretty much reduce that human to a state of primeval savagery if that is what they need for their survival ... Part of the work that is joyful is breaking down borders, those fences in which we live, and exploring areas we necessarily have to keep in check. Splashing around in that muck can be a joyful thing."

Q: In the middle of the movie, Plainview has a speech about being angry and competitive, and that is what drives him. What drives Daniel Day-Lewis to do the best work he can?

A: "Curiosity. Pride. Pride in the sense that I'm almost always proud to be involved in the thing that I'm currently involved in -- that kind of pride. The other kind of pride, too, that I don't want to look like an idiot, so that helps."

Q: That answer implies that you have to take big risks, and the saying is, with big risks come big rewards.

A: "You have to take big risks, but whenever I use that word in relation to what I do. I think, 'well, what's the worst that can happen to you in this line of work?' People talk about no safety net, but you know man, if the worse thing that can happen is you look like a fool, I'm not sure that is real risk-taking. That's a playful kind of a risk."

Q: I notice the tattoos on your arms. They are hands. Do they represent anything in particular.

A: "They do, they do."

Q: One last question on working with Paul Thomas Anderson. He, too, is considered to be at the top of his craft. Can you tell us what it's like working with him.

A: "I so try to resist the temptation to describe a working relationship when it's been as close as the one I've had with Paul because it seems everything I say could diminish it. I'm reluctant to squeeze that thing, which is a big thing for me, into a few words. (Pauses and looks at tattoos). These are my sons' hands, by the way. This is thing one, (he points) my 12 year-old. He's got the smallest one. Then, 9 and 5."
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Post by: picolas on January 20, 2008, 02:46:51 AM
i know this doesn't matter, but as of right now

imdb top 250

26. No Country For Old Men
25. There Will Be Blood
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Post by: tpfkabi on January 20, 2008, 03:12:35 PM
Quote from: picolas on January 20, 2008, 02:46:51 AM
imdb top 250

26. No Country For Old Men
25. There Will Be Blood

I imagine these will both go down severely once they're released on DVD and the 'normal joes' rent these so-called acclaimed movies and won't know what to do with them.
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Post by: pete on January 20, 2008, 03:14:15 PM
this happens all the time right - the giant, inexplicable fluctuations of ratings on that site?
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Post by: tpfkabi on January 20, 2008, 03:34:14 PM
Quote from: pete on January 20, 2008, 03:14:15 PM
this happens all the time right - the giant, inexplicable fluctuations of ratings on that site?

i'm not sure what you're getting at, but up to this point - especially with Blood - the people that have seen it were most likely already cinephiles. The general public generally rates anything artistic low just because they don't understand it. Country, on the other hand, has played pretty wide to this point and the general public usually can't accept that type of ending. I could foresee it going down once it's at rental stores.
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Post by: pete on January 20, 2008, 04:13:52 PM
my question is simpler - IMDB's top 250 constantly changes with every new favorite coming out right?
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Post by: cine on January 20, 2008, 06:13:42 PM
well the box office shows the movie almost topping 10 million.. and its in less than 400 theatres. and this is without the oscars announced yet.

clearly with the DDL oscar win a near lock now, box office-wise once it expands, as well as the record number of oscar nods and critical praise, this is shaping up to be his most successful film in every way!  :onfire:
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Post by: Astrostic on January 21, 2008, 05:28:46 PM
I'm not sure of how accurate it is, but I've found the site DVD Aficionado to be a pretty reliable source for DVD release news, and they just updated the DVD release for TWBB as being April 15, 2008.
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Post by: SiliasRuby on January 21, 2008, 06:32:01 PM
saw that too, and they are pretty accurate.
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Post by: picolas on January 21, 2008, 10:49:38 PM
gad zooks. must be anticipating oscar hype translating into dvd sales. i hope it's not a rushed unspecial edition.
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Post by: polkablues on January 21, 2008, 11:30:28 PM
Quote from: picolas on January 21, 2008, 10:49:38 PM
gad zooks. must be anticipating oscar hype translating into dvd sales. i hope it's not a rushed unspecial edition.

It'll just have lots of interview segments with PTA sitting there quietly and DDL laughing uncomfortably.
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Post by: SiliasRuby on January 22, 2008, 04:05:34 AM
I just hope it has a commentary.
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Post by: Something Spanish on January 22, 2008, 05:35:36 AM
it most definitely has a commentary! get ready, son!
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on January 22, 2008, 06:32:25 AM
I'm fearing that PTA will get snubbed on a Best Director nod today.  Just a shitty feeling I have.  Hope I'm wrong.
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Post by: cine on January 22, 2008, 07:18:58 AM
he'll get the nod. count on it. i'm predicting 6 nominations.
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Post by: ElPandaRoyal on January 22, 2008, 07:31:29 AM
Quote from: Shaun Digi on January 22, 2008, 05:35:36 AM
it most definitely has a commentary! get ready, son!

Serious?

By the way, it will get 7 nominations, or maybe even 8, if they go crazy and have Paul Dano love. He's great in TWBB even though I haven't seen the movie.
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Post by: Sleepless on January 22, 2008, 07:45:47 AM
Best Picture, Best Director, Adapted Screenplay, and DDL so far...
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Post by: ElPandaRoyal on January 22, 2008, 07:46:58 AM
No Dano. When do we know the rest of the nominees?
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Post by: cine on January 22, 2008, 07:47:46 AM
soon.

i don't think anyone expected Dano anyhow.

edit: i take that back, they're online.
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Post by: ElPandaRoyal on January 22, 2008, 07:51:14 AM
It got Cinematography, editing, sound editing and also production design. Great stuff :D
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on January 22, 2008, 07:54:02 AM
Glad I was wrong.
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Post by: tpfkabi on January 22, 2008, 08:51:49 AM
Quote from: ElPandaRoyal on January 22, 2008, 07:31:29 AM
it will get 7 nominations, or maybe even 8

i counted 7 on the imdb page if that's all the categories.

i'm happy PT at least got nominated for Best Director.
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Post by: noyes on January 22, 2008, 10:09:04 AM
8 nods, including Matthew Wood for sound editing.
good news indeed.
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Post by: bluejaytwist on January 22, 2008, 03:13:45 PM
the dvd will not have a commentary track according to paul. im going to do a vines update with what i know will and wont be on the dvd shortly...

cjw
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Post by: squints on January 22, 2008, 03:51:19 PM
Quote from: Astrostic on December 20, 2006, 12:30:44 AM
So, my friend goes to a New York art school called Cooper Union, which also happens to be the school that David Lynch's son, Austin Lynch, attends.  Apparently Austin Lynch has strangely been MIA for the entire Fall semester, and my friend had wondered if he'd left the school, graduated early, gotten killed, etc.  Well, it turns out, that Austin has been in Los Angeles this semester, working on a "Making-Of" documentary for a film called "There Will Be Blood"  by a filmmaker named "Paul Thomas Anderson."  Small world, eh?

I wonder if this'll make it on the first dvd?
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Post by: bluejaytwist on January 23, 2008, 04:03:47 PM
nope, that will not be there either, sadly. subject to change of course, but the day he told me about about what would be on the dvd was the day he was going to the production house to work on it, so i think things are pretty set.
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Post by: Vile5 on January 24, 2008, 04:05:47 PM
Ok, so here i am again, cause there's nothing like home... and PTA is the MAN again, cause there's nothing like PTA.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 24, 2008, 04:14:12 PM
I just witnessed a weird moment on one of my sports shows. Around the Horn, a show where sports writers debate topics for points to see who accumulates the most by the end, had a weird moment when one of the writers introduced himself as "Daniel Plainview" and made a promise to the audience that "there will be blood." He even had a imitation of Day Lewis's voice to boot. The host, who scores the argument, was so impressed by the reference he gave him three points right there when he usually takes points away because sports writers try to be funny on their introduction....and fail.

I guess it makes sense in that all I see are There Will be Blood trailers on ESPN now. They are littered through out the channel, especially during late afternoon shows. I just saw a trailer show end scenes where SPOILERS!Day Lewis is screaming, "I drink your milkshake" to Dano.
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Post by: theyarelegion on January 24, 2008, 05:46:06 PM
Apparently DDL was on Oprah today for her Oscar Nominee's show.
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Post by: MacGuffin on January 24, 2008, 06:51:08 PM
Quote from: Vile5 on January 24, 2008, 04:05:47 PM
Ok, so here i am again, cause there's nothing like home... and PTA is the MAN again, cause there's nothing like PTA.

OH MY GOD!!! I don't believe it.

You don't know how much I've missed you!  :embrace:
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Post by: theyarelegion on January 24, 2008, 07:32:13 PM
Quote from: Omero on January 24, 2008, 05:46:06 PM
Apparently DDL was on Oprah today for her Oscar Nominee's show.

http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1389981778
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Post by: 72teeth on January 24, 2008, 09:58:56 PM
There will finally be blood for me tomorrow... :cry: :rofl:
any tips?
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Post by: picolas on January 25, 2008, 12:03:04 AM
..watch it in order. forget the trailer.
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Post by: MacGuffin on January 25, 2008, 12:13:07 AM
Quote from: 72teeth on January 24, 2008, 09:58:56 PMany tips?

Take Dramamine before... oh, wait. Wrong film.
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Post by: polkablues on January 25, 2008, 12:40:28 AM
Read the whole spoiler thread first, so there's no surprises.
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Post by: Gamblour. on January 25, 2008, 01:22:50 PM
Don't drink anything beforehand!
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Post by: Redlum on January 25, 2008, 03:10:29 PM
https://www.picturehouses.co.uk/news_item.aspx?venueId=oxfd&id=825

I shall be seeing TWBB here with a satelite linked Q&A with DDL. If there are any UK Xixaxers with a PictureHouse cinema nearby we can be fellow audience memebers for this momentous occasion.
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Post by: Marty McSuperfly on January 25, 2008, 07:19:10 PM
admin edt: allusions to vague spoilers you've probably already almost read

Quote from: Redlum on January 25, 2008, 03:10:29 PM
https://www.picturehouses.co.uk/news_item.aspx?venueId=oxfd&id=825

I shall be seeing TWBB here with a satelite linked Q&A with DDL. If there are any UK Xixaxers with a PictureHouse cinema nearby we can be fellow audience memebers for this momentous occasion.

Bought my ticket for that last week Redlum! Cannot wait! I've been avoiding spoilers for too long now, and the longer it goes on the sooner I'm going to read something specific about bowling or milkshakes or something (I have no idea what those things mean in the grand scheme of things, but those words keep popping up when I scan article before I hurriedly stop reading).

Redlum, did you not see PDL at the London Film Festival? I seem to remember reading you did on Xixax the day after and then realising you must have been a few yards behind me in the queue... http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=1135.msg20901#msg20901

I'll be watching it in Scotland - pretty much the furthest I could possibly be from the DDL Q&A.
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Post by: Redlum on January 26, 2008, 08:15:09 AM
Hey Marty, yeah PDL at the London Film Fest was great. Since I read about you getting those pre-party tickets, I've been looking out for similar passes in standby queues at the festival.

Bring on the 11th anyways. I wonder if its a two-way linkup, so that questions can be asked from the different locations on the night.
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Post by: tpfkabi on January 26, 2008, 06:42:59 PM
i pick up my local small town newspaper today only to find a There Will Be Blood director 'for your consideration' pic on the front page. someone from here was a part of the assistant directing team and one of the things she did was find the twins to play the 1 year old baby (one of the kids is featured in the 'for your consideration' pic) who were cousins of hers. i remember an article a while back about how she worked on a couple Spielberg films, Minority Report and War of the Worlds. if they put the article online i'll copy and paste the full thing.

small world...

(now if the film will actually come here)
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Post by: Pozer on January 31, 2008, 11:03:02 AM
dont even bother introducing yourself cuz you cant even read the rules.  hopefully you only spoiled this for an admin who takes one for the team and then deletes it.

Quote from: tlong on January 31, 2008, 09:42:04 AM
i left.

good call.


- pozer filling in for pubrick.
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Post by: tlong on January 31, 2008, 11:17:50 AM
Didn't think my story was a spoiler. Oh well.


Name is Long. Tim Long.

The Treasure of the Sierra Madre is on TCM this Friday morning.

So there. Introduced.

I have been reading the posts on this group for awhile.

First post.

Fun people here, eh?

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Post by: tpfkabi on January 31, 2008, 12:06:06 PM
chere mill bee mud in east texas tomorrow.

it may be days before i comment after finally being able to read all these interviews/reviews/the already seen it thread that i have faithfully avoided.
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Post by: Pozer on January 31, 2008, 01:03:18 PM
i heard it was supposed to play there but now iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit's nooooooooooooooot.. gonna happen.
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Post by: tpfkabi on January 31, 2008, 04:19:31 PM
Quote from: pozer on January 31, 2008, 01:03:18 PM
i heard it was supposed to play there but now iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit's nooooooooooooooot.. gonna happen.

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"Somebody stop me him!"
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THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR team for the movie, There Will Be Blood, included Jenny Nolan, formerly of Gilmer, second from left, Others, from left, are, Adam Somner (1st assistant director), Ian Stone (2nd assistant director) and Set Production Assistants Justin Ritson, Kevin Collins and Christian Labarta.

Gilmer native Jenny Nolan part of 'There Will Be Blood' team

By SARAH GREENE 
 
Gilmer's Jenny Nolan, well established in a movie-making career, is on the team that helped get Paul Thomas Anderson nominated for an Academy Award for directing There Will Be Blood, a film about the early days of the oil industry in California.

And she will be on hand tonight (Jan. 26), at the 60th annual Directors Guild of America awards dinner at the Hyatt Century Plaza Hotel in Los Angeles. Anderson is one of five nominees for Outstanding Directorial Achievement in Feature Film for 2007.

Jenny's mother, Susan Monts of Gilmer, and her other Texas family share her excitement, not only for Jenny's role as second second assistant director of There Will Be Blood, but because her cousins, twin sons of Hal and Shannalea Taylor of Del Rio, had a role in the movie.

There Will Be Blood tied with No Country for Old Men at getting the most 2007 Oscar nominations — eight. It was filmed in the West Texas country around Marfa in the summer of 2006. Coincidentally, its filming there overlapped by about a week the nearby production of No Country for Old Men, based on Cormac McCarthy's novel of that name, Jenny recalled Thursday in a telephone conversation from her home in Los Angeles.

She said the company, already on location, was having trouble finding a year-old boy child to play the role of Daniel Day-Lewis' adopted son. She remembered that her cousin Hal and his wife had twin sons, Harrison and Stockton, living in that general area. They were picked and filled the role.

After three months on location the company returned to Los Angeles, Jenny said, and they needed the twins for a few more shots. The filmmakers had the family flown to California for an interesting week. The boys are the grandsons of Amelia Taylor and great-grandsons of Natalie Beasley, both of Gilmer.

Day-Lewis is an academy award nominee for best actor for his role as oil speculator Daniel Plainview. The relationship he has with his son, H.W., as he grows up is a key to the story.

The Taylor son is mentioned in a New York Times review by Manohla Dargis: "The brief scenes of Plainview's first tender, awkward moments with H.W. will haunt the story. In one of the most quietly lovely images in a film of boisterous beauty, he gazes at the tiny, pale toddler, chucking him under the chin as they sit on a train very much alone."

(This scene is part of the movie's trailer, now being run in theaters and available as a YouTube clip on the Internet.) The twin boys, now 2 1/2, have an older brother, Sloan, 6.

Jenny said that because of the Hollywood writer's strike, the Saturday night awards will not be telecast. Since There Will Be Blood was completed she has worked on Quarantine, a horror-thriller film for Screen Gems, and she has recently worked on a commercial. Because of the strike, she said, "things are pretty quiet around our town," with no television pilots being filmed.

Jenny said she and the first assistant director were involved in every scene made in There Will be Blood, while two of the three second assistant directors on the 5-person team went on to other projects. She said she saw the completed film twice and knew that it would be considered a great movie. Indeed, it has already received numerous honors.

She said the director, Paul Thomas Anderson, who also wrote the screenplay, had been working on the film for years, but would not have made it with any other actor than Daniel Day-Lewis. Jenny described the star as "fabulous as an actor and as a person."

Jenny prepared for her career by earning a bachelor's degree in drama at West Texas A&M University in Canyon and a master's degree at the University of North Texas in Denton. She has worked in Los Angeles for the last six years.

She said that There Will be Blood, which is a "dark" film, was first scheduled to be shown at art houses only. But because its initial reception was so favorable, she said, it is now showing in limited release in Dallas and other big cities, and is expected to be in general release in the near future.

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ONE OF THE TWIN sons of Hal Taylor, formerly of Gilmer, and his wife appears in this promotional piece put out by Paramount Pictures and Miramax Film Corp. for There Will Be Blood, now in limited release, and holder of eight Academy Award nominations.
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Post by: tpfkabi on February 01, 2008, 11:03:34 PM
woah....

i did have to have the question asking couple behind me on the left........any time pt had a quiet time for reflection, they did not reflect, they yapped.

no sooner did the final scene end did i hear, "that is the weirdest movie i've ever seen."

arggghh.
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Post by: The Red Vine on February 01, 2008, 11:11:06 PM
Quote from: bigideas on February 01, 2008, 11:03:34 PM
woah....

i did have to have the question asking couple behind me on the left........any time pt had a quiet time for reflection, they did not reflect, they yapped.

no sooner did the final scene end did i hear, "that is the weirdest movie i've ever seen."

arggghh.

I heard the same comment during one of my viewings. Some people acted as though they were put off by the film's uniqueness. I saw the film again tonight, and as soon as the end credits came, a couple behind me said "well, at least we know what the worst movie ever made is." I've learned not to get pissed off with an audience like that. My personal experience with the film was wonderful, and that's what counts.
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Post by: FrunLg on February 03, 2008, 06:42:20 PM
The reviews seem incredibly mixed, but just the other night i saw the film for the 3rd time in Austin late night, and there was this older couple sitting next to me, and as soon as the film ended the wife said to the husband, "whattaya think?" to which he replied: "That was impressive", which put a smile on my face. I don't think the younger folks, (excluding the xixax youngsters) for the most part, are much in tune with cinema, so a film like this is easily under-appreciated. Not to mention the evangelicals and the narrow-minded. But the elderly seem to have far more appreciation for the film, for the mere execution and technicality of it, let alone the story.
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Post by: polkablues on February 03, 2008, 07:46:17 PM
Quote from: FrunLg on February 03, 2008, 06:42:20 PM
But the elderly seem to have far more appreciation for the film, for the mere execution and technicality of it, let alone the story.

I just wish they would stop sitting next to me and sucking on their teeth through the entire movie.

Also, 91% on Rotten Tomatoes suggests that the reviews are actually remarkably consistent.
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Post by: FrunLg on February 03, 2008, 08:12:15 PM
yeah the teeth sucking hasn't happened to me, but understandably a pet peeve for any film-goer. Clearly there's a professional unanimity about the quality of the film, but the young people that i've seen it with show more disdain than praise, mostly because [EDITED FOR SPOILERS]... i don't, could be wrong.
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Post by: polkablues on February 03, 2008, 08:34:14 PM
That's true.  Based on what I'm overhearing walking out of the theater, it's getting a mixed reception from the little cross-section of people that I'm encountering.  The critics are almost unanimous in praise, but the general public might be slow to catch up.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on February 03, 2008, 11:56:05 PM
My 14 year old review....

This film shocked me. I expected the world and got a really bad film. My essay about Magnolia wasn't to smudge Paul Thomas Anderson, but to paint a picture of a filmmaker who I thought was on his last leg of immaturity before growing up. I really did expect a flat out masterpiece here. Every part of the idea of this film seemed to be smart and thoughtful. Instead I watched the film with my jaw wide open and embarrassed. I tried to convince myself what I was watching was good but it just got more laughable. Then I lost all hope and started to concentrate on the million mistakes everywhere instead of just rationalizing them. Then the feeling of pure dread came in because I just wanted the film to end but I knew the ending was coming. It divided critics for being over the top and I just just just hoped it wasn't as ridiculous as the claims said it was. Eh, I was disappointed again.

If you think I wanted to hate this film, fuck you. I talked about how great of an idea this was since the beginning and when the poster came out, I dished out over $32 to just get the poster first and have it on my wall. After the movie I walked around the mall and kept thinking I still had not seen the film because what I had just seen couldn't have been it. I've been waiting so long that I still operated on the feeling I was still waiting but it did dawn on me what There Will Be Blood was and how awful I thought it was. It sucks because I'm going to have to trash that poster...

Yea, I explained nothing to what I thought, but I felt like a showing of my heart before I did go after this film with a proper critical evaluation.
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Post by: I Love a Magician on February 04, 2008, 02:08:35 AM
i'll buy the poster from you
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on February 04, 2008, 02:49:47 AM
Reminder --- this is a spoiler-free thread. Go here (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=9970.0) for all your spoiler needs. Let's avoid posting pictures here, too, unless it's a poster with a face on it. I think we all know what a spoiler is... but if you're not sure it's a spoiler, be on the safe side.
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Post by: Pozer on February 04, 2008, 11:47:56 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on February 03, 2008, 11:56:05 PM
If you think I wanted to hate this film, fuck you.

i dont think anyone thought youd want to hate it.. knew you would hate it is a better way to put it.

Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on February 03, 2008, 11:56:05 PM
Yea, I explained nothing to what I thought, but I felt like a showing of my heart before I did go after this film with a proper critical evaluation.

hmmm.  not sure if id want to read a proper critical evaluation from someone who says it's a 'really bad' film.  i dont think even those critics who are in the nay that you were referring to have said it's really bad.

so, GT... better or worse than magnolia?     
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on February 04, 2008, 12:27:04 PM
Quote from: pozer on February 04, 2008, 11:47:56 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on February 03, 2008, 11:56:05 PM
If you think I wanted to hate this film, fuck you.

i dont think anyone thought youd want to hate it.. knew you would hate it is a better way to put it.

OK, that comment bugged me originally so considering you didn't even read my essay on Magnolia at the time, how did you know I was going to hate it? I thought Boogie Nights was excellent, Hard Eight very good and same for Punch Drunk Love.

Quote from: pozer on February 04, 2008, 11:47:56 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on February 03, 2008, 11:56:05 PM
Yea, I explained nothing to what I thought, but I felt like a showing of my heart before I did go after this film with a proper critical evaluation.

hmmm.  not sure if id want to read a proper critical evaluation from someone who says it's a 'really bad' film.  i dont think even those critics who are in the nay that you were referring to have said it's really bad.

Such a weird comment. First off, I said critics were divided over the ending, not the whole film. And why wouldn't you want to read a critical evaluation from someone who says it's really bad? It's like me saying I wouldn't want to read an evaluation from someone who says it is perfect, but that's dumb. Are you going to extend that comment to just say you have little interest in what I can say? Considering your past comments about me, I wouldn't be too shocked.

I gave the film a far shake when I went into it and was depressed afterwards. My review wouldn't just be a slam fest. I really do think I can give the best comment for understanding the film. My piece about Magnolia was to highlight it in the context to which I believe it existed. Looking over comments here, I can see a certain mystery shrowds the film but I've seen this structure and stylization numerous times before. It's nothing new and worst, it was once considered generic. The comparisons to Kubrick are accurate, but the ones to 2001 are way off and I really hope to explore that. The sad thing is I was going full blast with another essay but I may drop that for now to take charge of this one. I just doubt it will be as long as the Magnolia piece. Fuck, I hope not.

Magnolia is better. It took on a tougher subject and really aimed for the skies. There Will be Blood just looks ambitious.


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Post by: JG on February 04, 2008, 01:48:26 PM
please feel free to write as much as you think necessary because i know there's quite a few of us who would LOVE to read what you didn't like.

its the same with the salon review which a few of you hated on out of principle. i didn't think that was a bad review at all and reading it helped me formulate my own thoughts about why i like the movie. i almost never agree with GT but i think his reviews are getting more and more legitimate and fun to read. 
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Post by: Pozer on February 04, 2008, 02:19:54 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on February 04, 2008, 12:27:04 PM
how did you know I was going to hate it?

i dont know.  TWBB just felt like one youd dislike.  that you would recognize nothing but flaws in it.  i actually thought youd not care for it, but never imagined youd say it's a really bad film.  or maybe i did but really didnt want you to on this one.   

Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on February 04, 2008, 12:27:04 PM
And why wouldn't you want to read a critical evaluation from someone who says it's really bad?

i just said 'not sure' if id read your evaluation as an immediate response.  of course id read it for sure.  but that immediate response of not being sure of wanting to really does come from the 'really bad film' statement.

regarding the magnolia essay: 

Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on January 07, 2008, 07:28:16 PM
FALSE IDOL
right away i :roll: and think 'here we go again.'  after reading it, i do respect this title. 

and here's what got me to want to read it:

Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on January 07, 2008, 07:28:16 PM
Why Magnolia isn't a great film
you could easily have written something more harsh there to make me not want to read on.  example: Why Magnolia is a really bad film.  truth be known, id still have read the thing but wouldve went into it thinking 'why am i wasting my time with this guy's constant hate on good movies?' 

i did like the essay a lot and could not figure out how to respond to it.  i found myself agreeing to quite a bit of it, and it actually got me thinking, 'has magnolia aged well w/me?'  ive rewatched it recently to show to someone who hadnt seen it, and it wasnt sitting well with me.  Dixon, the whole worm story in general, the music - especially that neverending piece, the dialogue, Melora Walters, the 82s, the structure etc.  ive felt this way about it for a while now, but watching it and hyping it up to someone with fresh eyes detached me from it more so than ever.   she loved it.  and in the end i sort of said 'see what i was sayin' but was feeling very empty inside.  i will always love magnolia for what it made me feel in 1999 and for what it made me feel on repeated viewings, but its flaws are more apparent and more in the way now.

i have much interest in what you (GT) hav to say.  im someone who comes here mostly to read the thoughts and views of others and occasionally will chime in with my own.  sometimes ill see a movie, love it and have no desire to write a single word about it.  id rather just see what others thought.  and that is ok.  sometimes i get upset when you come off (to me) as wanting to hate movies or not one who is capable of enjoying movies.  and i respond the way i do cuz i would want someone like you to feel the way i did about it.  and that might not be ok, but maybe it kinda is.  maybe it's alright that i get frustrated with your views and wanna jump inside GTs head and give him my brain for a few flicks...

but in the end, i respect your feedback very much.  who really cares how pozer responds to it?  he's just a pissy old man sometimes.  Ebert has been my favorite critic throughout my life.  i have love for him for the most intriguing reviews and essays he has written.  i cant tell you how many things ive read from him over the years where ive wanted to respond simply with 'eat a cock, Roger.'       

now i will disagree w/you over and over and over about Blood of course.  i would hope youd see it again and maybe take something more from it as opposed to just seeing it as something trying to be ambitious, but i doubt that will happen.  if anything, multiple viewings will prob make you dislike it even more.  and im guessing your future essay on the film will be titled: The Further Adventures of a False Idol - Why There Will Be Blood is a really bad film.

and i will be there to read it.   
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Post by: tpfkabi on February 04, 2008, 02:58:40 PM
GT, since you starting visiting Xixax, have there been any films that you were excited to see and they did live up to your expectations?

I don't mean any popcorn flicks that ended up satisfying that type of expectation or exceeding it (you know, films you had little hope to begin with), more the art house type film.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on February 04, 2008, 05:25:25 PM
Quote from: bigideas on February 04, 2008, 02:58:40 PM
GT, since you starting visiting Xixax, have there been any films that you were excited to see and they did live up to your expectations?

I don't mean any popcorn flicks that ended up satisfying that type of expectation or exceeding it (you know, films you had little hope to begin with), more the art house type film.

Off the top of my head - L'Enfant, The Son, The Piano Teacher, Downfall, Spirited Away, Brokeback Mountain, When Will I Be Loved, The Constant Gardener, Sideways, Alexander Revisited, The Diving Bell and the Butterfly.
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Post by: tpfkabi on February 04, 2008, 05:30:58 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on February 04, 2008, 05:25:25 PM
Quote from: bigideas on February 04, 2008, 02:58:40 PM
GT, since you starting visiting Xixax, have there been any films that you were excited to see and they did live up to your expectations?

I don't mean any popcorn flicks that ended up satisfying that type of expectation or exceeding it (you know, films you had little hope to begin with), more the art house type film.

Off the top of my head - L'Enfant, The Son, The Piano Teacher, Downfall, Spirited Away, Brokeback Mountain, When Will I Be Loved, The Constant Gardener, Sideways, Alexander Revisited, The Diving Bell and the Butterfly.

That's interesting. I haven't seen any of those films, so I probably haven't visited the thread where you praised it.
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Post by: The Red Vine on February 04, 2008, 05:47:03 PM
Personally, I'm very interested to read GT's review of TWBB. I've read many negative reviews and only a few have given IMO legitimate reasons for bashing it. I don't rank TWBB as a masterpiece the way many others have. From my first viewing I knew it was far from being a great film. Even if I thought it was, I'm open to hearing all arguments for or against it.

I'm sure GT will give in-depth reasons as usual to defend his position. I wish I could say the same for some other posters here who declare it's the one of the greatest things ever and leave it at that.
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Post by: Pozer on February 04, 2008, 05:54:35 PM
why dont you do it?  go in debth as to why you think it is far from a great film. 
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on February 04, 2008, 06:31:09 PM
Quote from: pozer on February 04, 2008, 02:19:54 PM
sometimes i get upset when you come off (to me) as wanting to hate movies or not one who is capable of enjoying movies.  and i respond the way i do cuz i would want someone like you to feel the way i did about it.  and that might not be ok, but maybe it kinda is.  maybe it's alright that i get frustrated with your views and wanna jump inside GTs head and give him my brain for a few flicks...

Thanks for the overall tone, but on the paragraph...Rest assured I watch a lot of movies and don't write ridiculous pieces about all of them. That means a lot of time is spent on enjoying movies on general levels as much as next as the next person. If you come to my apartment this thursday you can enjoy a viewing of The Last Boy Scout with me and my friends. Last week we watched Beautiful Girls by Ted Demme.

In the end though it gets down to someone's taste. You can dislike Stanley Kubrick, David Lynch, Martin Scorsese and be against a majority of the films and filmmakers who are popular on this board. It doesnt mean those three filmmakers are all everyone likes, but they have dramatically influenced a lot of major directors who are popular today and it shows. It comes down to different beliefs and ideas about what serious films mean. The fact is that people just have different ideas about cinema. The Dardenne Brothers were asked to name what filmmakers influenced them and they jokingly answered, "David Cronenberg." He gets a lot of respect on this board, but for the Dardennes and their interest, he isn't on their radar. I have to judge films from the critical spot so I'm not looking at filmmakers who will give me good ideas about technique, but I am looking for filmmakers who will give me ideas and feelings that make sense for what I believe is interesting in film. In the end that is what everyone does, but I'm just not the biggest fan of the general indie selection today. I always hope for good films but I know it's not always the case.
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Post by: MacGuffin on February 04, 2008, 08:38:59 PM
At the Oscar luncheon:

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Post by: jtm on February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 PM
glad he's off the coke
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Post by: tlong on February 04, 2008, 09:08:55 PM
hmmm... that pictures makes him look like Lee Harvery Oswald to me for some reason...

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Post by: Pozer on February 05, 2008, 12:05:57 PM
im just glad he finally changed his brown shirt...

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...and borrowed one of Day-Lewis' plaids.

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Post by: noyes on February 05, 2008, 04:56:06 PM
haha there goes the compilation.
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Post by: picolas on February 05, 2008, 05:29:20 PM
amazing.
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Post by: md on February 05, 2008, 05:58:00 PM
stoic as fuck.
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Post by: polkablues on February 05, 2008, 06:04:51 PM
100 pages! 

:multi:
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Post by: Bethie on February 06, 2008, 01:15:20 AM
Saw it today. I was sweating. It fucked me.

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Post by: pumba on February 06, 2008, 01:27:31 AM
there will be oscars:

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/d8f1db3c4e

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Post by: NEON MERCURY on February 08, 2008, 03:30:16 PM
this was off the hook :yabbse-cheesy:!

every single element of this film was amazing. i saw it w/my fiance and after the end of the film..she looked over to me and said.."that movie was incredible".  ddl's performance was insane.  i cannot believe he is "acting".  little dano was superb...but when his voice hits the high note..its produces a wierd sound like tom hanks.  great job by paul thomas anderson for putting this all together.  seriously, pta is the fucking man. 
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Post by: MacGuffin on February 08, 2008, 04:34:47 PM
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Oscar Watch: The Year of the Bad Boys
Daniel Day-Lewis and Javier Bardem are odds-on favorites to win Academy Awards for playing bad guys without a backstory in ''There Will Be Blood'' and ''No Country for Old Men'' -- and ringing in a new era of movie villainy
By Ken Tucker;Entertainment Weekly

**READ AT OWN RISK**

''The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted,'' D.H. Lawrence once declared. He shoulda been a movie critic.

Mr. Lady Chatterley's Lover was writing in the 1920s, but let's face it, he might have just emerged fresh from a visit to today's multiplex, his fingers still buttery from a double feature of No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood. And he might have been left shaken, as so many of us have, after encountering two of the hardest, most morally isolated and stoic killer-dillers in contemporary movies — Javier Bardem's implacable, Beatle-cut annihilator Anton Chigurh and Daniel Day-Lewis' misanthropic oilman/bowling aficionado Daniel Plainview.

At the conclusion of this year's Oscars, Day-Lewis may well take home the award for Best Actor, and Bardem a matching statuette for Best Supporting Actor. By any measure, it was an awfully good year for awfully-behaved characters. Whether we're talking about Johnny Depp's demon barber in Sweeney Todd, the up-by-his-bootstraps hoodlum Denzel Washington portrayed in American Gangster, Russell Crowe's sketch-pad-wielding Western baddie in 3:10 to Yuma, or the serial killer in David Fincher's Zodiac, evil is artful in some of the best recent American movies.

Audiences embrace the unembraceable, queasy qualities of the villains in No Country and There Will Be Blood. These men stand out from this nefarious pack in three distinctive ways: their soul-quaking ferocity; the never fully explained motivations for their cruel behavior; and the daring extremes to which their creators go to portray that behavior. We can try and pin motives onto these guys, of course. In No Country, Chigurh is after the bag full of drug money that wily hayseed Josh Brolin stumbled upon and made off with. In There Will Be Blood, Plainview wants to dominate the turn-of-the-century California oil fields that big oil companies are about to monopolize.

But here is where these two films really lift off into uncharted artistic territory: In neither case do the filmmakers attempt to give us the reason, the ''psychological'' explanation, or, thank heaven and hell, the ''backstory'' of how Chigurh and Plainview came to be the way they are. Or as Chigurh puts it in No Country: ''What business is it of yours where I'm from, friend-o?'' At first, Bardem says, he thought that imagining Chigurh's personal history might help him connect with the character. But then he realized that such extrapolation wasn't just pointless — it was detrimental. ''Maybe the character's mother didn't feed him when he was 5 years old, or something like that,'' he tells EW. ''I started to do that, but then I realized...in this case, it would be much more helpful if I didn't know where he was coming from. The challenge was to embrace a symbolic idea and give it human behavior. It wasn't about how his mother didn't feed him.'' Bardem believes Chigurh represents ''the logical violent reaction to a violent world. And I think my character symbolizes that violence.''
Chigurh seems to offer his victims (and, by extension, us) a choice; his deceptively cavalier challenge to call heads or tails on a coin toss reduces life to chance. Choose wrong, and you lose in the biggest way imaginable. Bardem says of his character, ''I am your horrible fate because you called for it.''

Brrrrr — it's even creepier when he puts it that way, isn't it? Chigurh and Plainview have literary origins, but very different cinematic fathers. Directors Joel and Ethan Coen's adaptation of Cormac McCarthy's 2005 novel is faithful-up-to-a-point in presenting a villain who on the page is barely described physically, while Paul Thomas Anderson used Upton Sinclair's 1927 novel Oil! as a mere jumping-off point for what is ultimately the writer-director's own highly idiosyncratic take on capitalism and religion.

Certainly, it's easier to guess at the source of Plainview's behavior: an admirable American rags-to-riches ambition, stunted and gnarled by his desire for power and control. ''I look at people and I see nothing worth liking'' is the telling line here. With an attitude like that, what are a few smeared bodies along the road to success (and perdition)? Day-Lewis, who declined to be interviewed for this story, has said he views Plainview's tale as ''an entirely honest examination of a life [with] an outrageous trajectory.'' Anderson, however, has always looked at Blood ''as a horror film.'' Really? ''What I mean by that is that we were telling a story that was only going to be a downward spiral,'' he says. ''You don't have to make any apologies along the way. You go to see a horror film to see bad things happen.''

Anderson gazes over at what the Coen brothers have done and sees a similarity to his own work: ''No Country is a horror movie to me. It's sort of a horror Western.'' Ethan Coen agrees: ''In some respects, [McCarthy's] novel is a horror story about getting old and how you contend with the world.'' Indeed, after seeing these often overpowering films, many of us are left feeling like Tommy Lee Jones' Sheriff Bell in No Country, who sits a bit stunned in a Texas diner and cannot for the gosh-darned life of him figure out why such evil is set loose upon this modern world. Yet the bristlingly smart producer Scott Rudin, who worked on both movies, sees differences: ''No Country is tapping into a feeling that our lives are fragile...and a lot of the country is responding to that. But I think There Will Be Blood has a whole different kind of relevance, which has to do with the relationship between [the power of] oil and religion.''

Of course, it's the intentionally inexplicable nature of these bad guys, when placed within the context of grand, classy filmmaking (as opposed to the kill 'em all and let Quentin Tarantino sort' em out aesthetic of exploitation flicks like the Hostel and Saw franchises), that breaks with class-A horror conventions. For example, if anything dates a touchstone of the genre like Alfred Hitchcock's 1960 Psycho nowadays, it's the tacked-on, jargon-riddled scene near the end, in which a psychiatrist explains the Oedipal-with-a-dollop-of-nuts motivation of Anthony Perkins' cross-dressing, female-fearing killer. More recently, the purred musings of Jodie Foster's radio-chatterbox character in 2007's The Brave One only served to mire the action in a thriller marketed as a feminist remake of Charles Bronson's Death Wish.

It used to be pretty rare that exceedingly bad characters won Academy Awards. Robert De Niro's Supporting Actor Oscar in 1975 for The Godfather Part II almost doesn't count in this context, so sensitive and identifiable a tortured soul was his deadly mobster. But his win briefly defied the Oscar tradition of bestowing a prize on the person who most colorfully plays The Buddy (say, Cuba Gooding Jr. in Jerry Maguire), The Wise Guy (Walter Matthau in The Fortune Cookie), or The Graying Eminence (John Houseman in The Paper Chase or John Gielgud in Arthur).

Pre-De Niro, you have to reach back and stretch the definition of ''bad guy'' to find another of D.H. Lawrence's isolate, stoic souls nabbing the Oscar — and I'm only half-joking when I suggest that George Sanders' 1951 win for All About Eve fits the bill. Sanders' Addison De Witt wasn't a mass murderer, but he certainly shriveled many on-screen souls with his acid reviews as a dastardly drama critic.

In any case, the real bad-boy breakthrough was Anthony Hopkins' Best Actor victory for his role as Dr. Hannibal Lecter in 1991's The Silence of the Lambs. Once the Academy gave an Oscar to a remorseless snuffer-of-life like that, the way was paved for Denzel's dirty cop in Training Day (2001), Charlize Theron in Monster (2003), and Forest Whitaker's Idi Amin in The Last King of Scotland (2006) — as well as for Bardem in No Country and Day-Lewis in Blood.

Both of these intense movies inspire a different kind of laughter among many viewers: a mingling of surprise, shock, disbelief (if you don't buy into the films) and/or elation (if you do). Ditto their makers. Ethan Coen meant it as a compliment when he told us he finds Blood ''really funny.'' In the case of No Country, there reaches a point when the still, blank face of Javier Bardem — and the way the Coens frequently place him in the center of the frame as he strides through a scene with havoc all around him — reminded me of Buster Keaton, the silent-movie genius whose visual wit depended on his maintaining a calm, serious mien when everything around him was going kerflooey. I even heard chortles of surprised pleasure during No Country's trailer, when a car explodes on a street as Bardem's Chigurh walks serenely into a drugstore, oblivious to the effect his mischief has elicited, hell-bent on his mission while all those around him yelp and scamper.

The laughter provoked by There Will Be Blood comes in sharper barks; it's more pop-culturally complex. For all the rave reviews the movie has attracted, there's been some skepticism, especially about the movie's final moments, when Day-Lewis' Plainview has seemingly achieved everything he could want, yet remains a man near-crazy with years of accumulated grudges against the world. Without swerving into Spoiler-ville, let me quote Plainview's howled phrase in the final scene — ''I drink your milk shake!'' — and note his final act of violence against his nemesis, the young preacher played by Paul Dano.

These are the key moments when we, as viewers, are challenged either to stay the course on Mr. Anderson's wild ride or to hop off, shaking our heads in hooting disbelief. One way to defuse the discomfort Anderson and Day-Lewis clearly intended here is to snicker at it — to mock it in a hip/ironic way that the movie itself, to its great credit, assiduously avoids. As a matter of fact, countless jokes and videos have already sprouted up around Plainview's bellowed line ''Drainnnnaaggge!'' and that bizarre, out-of-nowhere milk-shake metaphor.

All joking aside, it's fascinating to note that No Country and There Will Be Blood share physical as well as psychic space. Big chunks of the movies were shot against the same flat, parched backdrop, the real Roadrunner-and-Coyote, West Texas landscape outside the town of Marfa. ''We ran into Paul [Thomas Anderson] once while we were shooting,'' says Ethan Coen. ''When we were shooting a scene with Josh Brolin tracking a blood trail, we had one very wide shot of Josh in the frame. He was just walking in this most remote place in the United States, and then behind Josh [arose] this big plume of black smoke over the ridge. We thought, Son of a bitch, the scene is ruined. We sent a grip over to see what was happening. It turned out it was Paul, testing an oil-well fire. We had to wait for the smoke to dissipate.''

Kinda makes you think the films had crossover potential, doesn't it?

Plainview: ''I...driiiiink...your...MILK shake!!!''

Chigurh: ''Drink this, friend-o.''

BLAM!!

That face-off will never happen, of course. Nor will any sequels, no matter how popular Anderson's and the Coens' movies become. There will be no Chigurh Rising. No There Will Be Blood II: Oil Be Back! Their creators are artistes for whom such commercial allure is nil (and Javier Bardem is no Robert Englund, running his Freddy down so many nightmares on Elm Street). Some viewers have been left outraged, puzzled, or downright derisive about the abrupt, dangling notes upon which No Country and Blood conclude. But, despite their open-endedness, these tales of very bad behavior possess a slamming-door finality. Once the screen goes black and their spells are broken, you're glad to be rid of these villains...even as you also know they're all you'll want to think and talk about for days.
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Post by: tpfkabi on February 08, 2008, 11:10:12 PM
Quote from: Bethie on February 06, 2008, 01:15:20 AM
Saw it today. I was sweating. It fucked me.

tell me more...

btw, Film Comment has Blood on the cover and an article by Kent Jones on the film.
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Post by: MacGuffin on February 11, 2008, 01:07:05 AM
Smaller screen, bigger potential
There are certain stories and characters who now belong to television -- and the movies can't have them back.
By Kate Aurthur, Los Angeles Times


**SPOILERS**


NO sane person with a bladder would argue that "There Will Be Blood," which runs for 2 hours and 38 minutes, should be longer.

But what if it were, in fact, 62 hours and 22 minutes longer, because instead of being a movie, "There Will Be Blood" was a television show on HBO or Showtime or some cable outlet with a bazillion dollars and a liberal language policy?

That was what I thought as I watched it at the ArcLight recently, dehydrating and too scared to drink more water.

We all know that the quality of television has spiked in the last 10 years, as cable channels such as HBO arose to lead the whole industry, networks included, through a creative, competitive boom. And how did it get to this apex? Through stealing from movies, of course. The best dramatic television of recent years, the shows that cause critics to write that we are in a golden age of drama -- "Dexter," "The Shield," "The Sopranos," "Mad Men," "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," "Friday Night Lights," "The Wire," "Battlestar Galactica," "Lost" and others -- have lifted storytelling, cinematography, character development and, often, actors from movies. Before the writers strike, it was physically impossible to keep up.

Duh, you might say.

But there's a certain kind of story, and in particular a certain kind of antihero -- one who is profane and morally compromised, yet righteous and magnetic -- who now belongs to television. Daniel Day-Lewis' Daniel Plainview, with his rage-filled ambition and tiny cracks of humanity and love, is exactly that guy. And "There Will Be Blood" proved to me that movies can't have him back.

I think that, by the way, because I very much liked "There Will Be Blood." Paul Thomas Anderson and Day-Lewis created a heart-attack-inducing world in its opening minutes, and I wanted to know everything about it.

I mean, where have you gone, Paul Sunday? (Warning: The crazy "There Will Be Blood" spoilers start here.) Paul, the character who sets the story in motion, who tells Plainview about the oil in Little Boston, is a mystery to us. Not only do we never see him again, but we barely hear his name until Plainview calls him "chosen" and "the prophet" in the movie's final moments to Paul's twin, Eli -- words that hit Eli nearly as hard as the blows from Plainview that end his life.

On "There Will Be Blood" the TV show, boy, would we have found out all about Paul Sunday. We would also know why Fletcher Hamilton, Plainview's assistant -- played by Ciarán Hinds, who was given so much to do as Julius Caesar in HBO's "Rome" and did it artfully -- is so loyal and stoic and, well, flat. We would also find out the back story of Plainview's actual brother, and more about the impostor he kills.

And if "Deadwood's" Al Swearengen said to another character, as Plainview says to the Standard Oil executive who tries to buy him out, "One night, I'm gonna come inside your house, wherever you're sleeping, and I'm gonna cut your throat," you can bet that throat would be cut.

Most important, we would see the apparently sinful breakdown of Eli Sunday's life that causes him to come to the now wholly vicious Plainview, causing both of their (final) ruin. What a gift it would be for viewers to see Day-Lewis play Plainview's descent in more intricate detail than the rich-crazy-guy-in-a-mansion-shooting-at-stuff vignette. This is a man who can literally act with his foot!

Sunday and Plainview's last confrontation, however, would have made a great series finale. If "The Sopranos" had ended with Tony berating, torturing and beating A.J. to death -- the kind of violent, decisive conclusion most viewers expected -- critics and fans might have been far happier.

Perhaps this back seat carping is why fan fiction exists -- to imagine the whereabouts of Paul Sunday and the other things I wish I knew about the expanded universe of "There Will Be Blood." And maybe somewhere on the interweb Daniel Plainview and Al Swearengen are engaged in an "Alien vs. Predator"-like blood bath. It would be greasy-haired and heavily accented, and it could go on forever, or until one of them said, "I'm finished."
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Post by: ©brad on February 11, 2008, 09:06:10 AM
i guess it's safe to say that this is the most publicity DDL has ever done for a movie, no? it's kinda surprising for someone who is usually so reserved and media-shy. 
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Post by: Pozer on February 11, 2008, 11:16:21 AM
Quote from: md on February 05, 2008, 05:58:00 PM
stoic as fuck.

Quote from: MacGuffin on February 08, 2008, 04:34:47 PM
The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer.

Quote from: MacGuffin on February 11, 2008, 01:07:05 AM
so loyal and stoic

i guess it's safe to say that page 100 was a stoic one.
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Post by: MacGuffin on February 12, 2008, 12:37:06 AM
'Blood' running over rivals at Berlin film fest

An anaemic lineup at the Berlin Film Festival has left critics searching for a challenger to the runaway favourite for the coveted Golden Bear award, Paul Thomas Anderson's "There Will be Blood".

Halfway through the 11-day festival, which started on a high note with the world premiere of "Shine a Light," Martin Scorsese's concert film of the Rolling Stones, the warmest praise has gone to individual performances rather than the movies themselves.

The main exception is Anderson's sweeping epic about a tyrannical oil prospector that has dominated a running ratings poll of international critics by the trade magazine Screen International.

"There Will Be Blood" came into the Berlinale with eight Oscar nominations under its belt and a clutch of top awards for British-born Daniel Day-Lewis, whose towering lead performance has made him a clear frontrunner for a best actor prize here.

"There Will Be Gold" predicted the German daily Der Tagesspiegel after the film screened on Friday.

Anderson knows what it is to triumph in Berlin, having won the Golden Bear in 2000 for "Magnolia".

A total of 21 films are in the official competition for the top prize to be announced by an all-star jury led by Greek-French director Costa-Gavras at a gala ceremony February 16.

With 11 films screened so far, the most memorable reviews have been the harshest at the 58th Berlinale, which ranks among Europe's top three festivals.

"A B-movie for a C-list festival," was Der Tagesspiegel film critic Jan Schulz-Ojala's scathing verdict on "Black Ice," a lukewarm Finnish thriller about a love triangle.

Scott Roxborough, covering his eighth Berlinale for the cinema industry magazine The Hollywood Reporter, acknowledged the prevalent mood that the films in competition had failed to deliver.

"On paper it looked pretty good, with some old established directors and new ones, but so far there's been nothing that has really set people alight," Roxborough said.

"It seems they haven't taken any big risks this year -- no new, cutting-edge or really different films like in the past," he added. "I'll give the festival a C-plus at the moment, but it can still turn in some written work and up its grade before the end."

While the critical consensus has favoured "There Will Be Blood," Berlinale veterans say the Oscar nominations and other plaudits already showered on the film elsewhere might tempt the jury to spotlight one of the smaller efforts that would benefit hugely from the exposure that comes with a Golden Bear.

Possible candidates include Mexican director Fernando Eimbcke's "Lake Tahoe," an understated, touching drama of a teenaged boy coming to terms with his father's death.

Chinese director Wang Xiaoshuai's film, "In Love We Trust," -- a contemporary tale of love, responsibility and deceit among China's new middle class, was also well received at press screenings.

Best actress speculation has focused on Britain's Tilda Swinton and Spanish star Penelope Cruz.

Swinton, who has developed a reputation as a risk-taker, won praise for her portrayal of an alcoholic who kidnaps a boy in French director Erick Zonca's "Julia".

Cruz was picked out for her performance as a student who embarks on an affair with a much older professor, played by Ben Kingsley, in the otherwise unfavoured "Elegy".

While Day-Lewis would seem a shoo-in for the men's honours, German actor Elmar Wepper is a possible dark-horse challenger for his lead role in "Cherry Blossoms" as a man who begins to understand the passions of his late wife on a visit to Tokyo.

And with 10 more competition films to be screened, there is still time for other favourites to emerge.

Tuesday sees the premiere of "Standard Operating Procedure," Errol Morris's documentary on the treatment of prisoners at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, as well as veteran British director Mike Leigh's light drama, "Happy-Go-Lucky," about a young schoolteacher navigating her way through life in London.
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Post by: tpfkabi on February 12, 2008, 02:15:33 PM
Quote from: ©MBBrad on February 11, 2008, 09:06:10 AM
i guess it's safe to say that this is the most publicity DDL has ever done for a movie, no? it's kinda surprising for someone who is usually so reserved and media-shy. 

i finally watched the Charlie Rose interview and you can tell they have really become close and Daniel loved being a part of the film and playing the part.
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Post by: polkablues on February 13, 2008, 07:39:27 PM
There Will Be Bell (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1801890)

Trailer mashup with Saved By The Bell.  Only moderately amusing, but worth posting.
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Post by: Fernando on February 14, 2008, 02:27:19 PM
You know there's already a porn film parody of this.

There Will Be Blondes.

I didn't see it.
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Post by: JG on February 14, 2008, 04:26:15 PM
There Will Be Blood.
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Post by: FrunLg on February 14, 2008, 04:30:11 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7HW6xHlFvPQ (http://youtube.com/watch?v=7HW6xHlFvPQ)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_ek3sPaJGuE (http://youtube.com/watch?v=_ek3sPaJGuE)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kSkg6Ne6VJU&feature=related (http://youtube.com/watch?v=kSkg6Ne6VJU&feature=related)
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Post by: JG on February 14, 2008, 04:58:07 PM
Quote from: FrunLg on February 14, 2008, 04:30:11 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kSkg6Ne6VJU&feature=related (http://youtube.com/watch?v=kSkg6Ne6VJU&feature=related)

oh my goodness, this exchange is too much. also, i do not think he combed his hair on this day.
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Post by: squints on February 14, 2008, 06:07:45 PM
Quote from: JG on February 14, 2008, 04:58:07 PM
Quote from: FrunLg on February 14, 2008, 04:30:11 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kSkg6Ne6VJU&feature=related (http://youtube.com/watch?v=kSkg6Ne6VJU&feature=related)

oh my goodness, this exchange is too much. also, i do not think he combed his hair on this day.

he makes this face and this head-tilt/neckfat thing toward the end like vincent d'onofrio in men in black asking for sugar water.
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Post by: MacGuffin on February 17, 2008, 10:25:54 AM
Directors step up to take their shot
Less experience may prove to be a good thing as this year's nominees ply their craft with an eccentric eye.
By Dennis Lim, Special to The Times

THE six nominees for this year's best director Academy Award have made a total of 23 feature films. To put that meager number into perspective, consider this: "The Departed," which finally won Martin Scorsese his directing Oscar last year (on his sixth nomination), was his 21st theatrically released feature. As with the acting categories, the best director Oscar often goes to overdue candidates -- which is to say, it's awarded for bodies of work as much as for the film under consideration -- but this year, instead of the usual lineup of establishment old-timers, voters are picking from a pool of career mavericks and comparative neophytes.

It's ill-advised to make big-picture pronouncements based on a single year, but the slender résumés and below-average age of the class of '08 -- Julian Schnabel, at 56, is the oldest nominee -- could signal an important changing of the guard.
 
Jason Reitman, director of "Juno," has made only one other feature, the 2005 satire "Thank You for Smoking," and is the youngest of the group, at 30. (John Singleton, 23 at the time of "Boyz N the Hood," holds the record for the youngest nominated director. Norman Taurog, who won for "Skippy" in 1931, when he was 32, remains the youngest winner.)

Two other nominees, although relatively new to directing, have considerable track records in other areas. "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly" is only Schnabel's third movie, but the Neo-Expressionist painter has enjoyed a reputation as an art-world enfant terrible since the early '80s. "Michael Clayton" is Tony Gilroy's first feature, but he has worked as a Hollywood screenwriter (on all three "Bourne" movies, notably) for more than a dozen years. (The last director who won for his debut effort was Sam Mendes, for "American Beauty" in 2000, and he was already an established theater director.)

Which leaves the maverick auteurs, Paul Thomas Anderson and the Coen brothers. Anderson is only 37, a wildly talented and ambitious, self-taught filmmaker who received the best reviews of his career for his fifth movie, "There Will Be Blood." Joel Coen, 53, and Ethan, 50, are this year's elder statesmen -- "No Country for Old Men" is their 12th feature -- but despite being longtime critics' favorites, this is only their second movie to register during awards season. "Fargo" was nominated for seven Oscars and won for best actress and screenplay. (The Coen brothers and Anderson, incidentally, have taken home the top prize for directing in the much artier context of the Cannes Film Festival -- the Coens for "The Man Who Wasn't There" in 2001 and Anderson for "Punch-Drunk Love" the following year.)

Ballots, box office in sync

AS many reviewers have noted, 2008 was a banner year for American movies, and the unmissable vitality of the field seems to have given the academy a chance to catch up with critical opinion. It is not getting any easier to make adventurous, personal movies in Hollywood, but a notable cluster of filmmakers -- working in Indiewood or on the fringes of Hollywood, many of them in their 30s and 40s -- have figured out a way to do so. More than any previous Oscar roster, this year's nominees -- heavy on idiosyncratic fare, light on the bloated prestige pictures that typically dominate the night -- seem to reflect that reality.

It could also be argued that "There Will Be Blood" and "No Country for Old Men," both neo-westerns centered on murderous and perversely charismatic sociopaths (Daniel Day-Lewis and Javier Bardem are favorites to win their respective categories), are the American films of the year that best reflect the darkening national mood.

Whether or not Anderson wins the award, his elevation from film-geek hero to Oscar-sanctioned heavyweight is a victory for what you might call the new New Hollywood. Younger, indie-minded directors have had sporadic success in the last decade. Steven Soderbergh, who paved the way for the American indie film as we know it with "Sex, Lies, and Videotape," won an Oscar for "Traffic" in 2001, when he was also nominated for "Erin Brockovich." Quentin Tarantino, Sofia Coppola and Alexander Payne have all earned directing nominations and won original screenplay Oscars the first time they were nominated (for "Pulp Fiction," "Lost in Translation" and "Sideways," respectively). Indeed, the original screenplay category has been notably friendly to writer-director types, including Richard Linklater, Todd Haynes, Wes Anderson and Noah Baumbach.

With the Coens and Paul Thomas Anderson the clear front-runners, the 2008 directing Oscar will likely go to a writer-director. Of the last 10 winners, only Peter Jackson (who co-wrote "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King") and James Cameron ("Titanic") had screenplay credits on their films. The fact that writer-directors have not done too well gives a clue as to what voters are normally looking for in a category that has always been somewhat murky.

Swept up by their style

IT can be hard to pinpoint what exactly a director does on a film, given that he or she in theory oversees every aspect of the production and that the job description in practice varies from film to film and from director to director. The redundancy of having best picture and director awards has often been noted -- why would the best film not also be the best-directed, and vice versa? The distinction dates to the beginning of the Academy Awards, when producers were dominant creative forces (the best picture Oscar goes to a film's producers) and directors were often hired hands.

Recent winners (Jackson, Cameron, Ron Howard, Anthony Minghella) indicate that voters are drawn not necessarily to a distinctive directorial vision but above all to grandeur: an imposing or showy visual style, a skillful marshaling of resources on a large scale. This year, at least with the Coens and Anderson (and arguably Schnabel too), the category seems more in line with what French film critics of the '50s meant when they spoke of auteurs: directors whose films were an expression of authorial personality.

Anderson best fits that bill -- "There Will Be Blood," the most eccentric of epics, is nothing if not a film with personality, as well as the boldest American movie of the last year -- but the Coens, given the momentum of "No Country" and the sense that they are overdue, are probably the favorites. (They also won the Directors Guild award, a reliable predictor.) None of the other three could be considered strong contenders. Screenwriter Diablo Cody deserves much of the credit -- or blame, depending on how you see it -- for "Juno." "Michael Clayton" is solidly directed but not flashy enough for a win in this category, against this competition. "The Diving Bell" missed out on a best picture nomination, making Schnabel that much more of a long shot.

If it's any comfort to the losers, the roster of Oscar-winning directors, even more than the acting categories, is a notoriously incomplete one. The list of filmmakers who have never won a director Oscar -- Alfred Hitchcock, Stanley Kubrick, Howard Hawks, Orson Welles, Ernst Lubitsch and Robert Altman, just to name the most egregious half-dozen -- amounts to a veritable hall of fame.
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Post by: idk on February 19, 2008, 10:09:08 PM
Tonight! Tuesday, Feburary 19 2008 On Charlie Rose: A discussion about the films There Will be Blood & No Country for Old Men... link (http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2008/02/19/1/a-discussion-about-the-films-there-will-be-blood-no-country-for-old-men)

hopefully this wont just be replays of the already broadcast conversations
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Post by: noyes on February 21, 2008, 02:49:58 PM
Quote from: idk on February 19, 2008, 10:09:08 PM
hopefully this wont just be replays of the already broadcast conversations

unfortunately, it is.
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Post by: MacGuffin on February 22, 2008, 02:36:33 PM
A Critic's Critic
Source: David Carr (The Carpetbagger blog); NY Times

Paul Thomas Anderson, apart from being the holy vessel of hope and aspiration for critics and cinéastes, is known in the industry as both a straight shooter and a barrel of monkeys, someone who takes the work, but not himself, seriously. He did not disappoint.

At STK, a restaurant in West Hollywood, he was in full cry with his mates, staying late and talking with all comers. The Bagger, who has admitted here that he finds "There Will Be Blood" more admirable than convincing, introduced himself. Mr. Anderson laughed for a while. And they he laughed a bunch more.

"You know you don't know a [gosh darn] thing about movies," he said.

Um, gee, the Bagger thought, maybe this is the point where he should change the topic to "Punch-Drunk Love," one of his favorite films of all time? But the filmmaker just kept laughing. (This being a blog, a medium where snide rules, the Bagger wants to be clear. He does not mean that the director was chuckling ironically or darkly or portentously. He was just having some fun with a little playful payback.)

"'There Will Be Blood' was the best movie of the year," Mr. Anderson said. "Except for maybe 'Juno.' And 'Clayton.' And 'Atonement.' Other than that, it was the best movie of the year."

Um, there seems to be one omission in that gracious tick-tock, the Bagger noted. The one that sent the Bagger into fan-boy convulsions.

"You really think ['No Country for Old Men'] movie was better than ours!" Mr. Anderson hooted. "C'mon, do you really believe that?"

The Bagger was flattered that anyone cared about his opinion on films, even if it was someone who kept telling him that he knew nothing. Mr. Anderson laughed one more time, clapped the Bagger on his back and wished him on his merry, misguided way. (He then bumped into Anderson's dear friend John C. Reilly who asked him how he could miss the excellence, miss the point, of "There Will Be Blood.")

The Bagger has admired Anderson since he watched him on the set of "A Prairie Home Companion," where he literally served as insurance for Robert Altman, whose health was quietly failing while he made his last film. Mr. Anderson came over the man's shoulder with input on some shots, but he was really there to make sure one of the treasures of American cinema got to make as many movies as he wanted to. And along they way, he either learned, or had already baked in, Altman's reflexive tendency to say whatever was on his mind.
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Post by: The Red Vine on February 22, 2008, 02:58:22 PM
I would've thought time and growing up would've matured PTA of those tendencies but obviously not. This reminds me of his Boogie Nights days where he would tear up the poor rating papers from the test screenings, put them in his mouth, chew them up, and spit them out. That event was obviously worse, but this still makes him look like a spoiled child.
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Post by: ©brad on February 22, 2008, 03:15:00 PM
oh come on he was obviously joking.

i feel there's a fairly large chunk of the evening the bagger choose not to include in that post.
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Post by: modage on February 22, 2008, 03:39:17 PM
oh shut up redvine!   this is SO funny.  another reason that PTA fucking rules.
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Post by: Pedro on February 22, 2008, 05:27:49 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on February 22, 2008, 02:36:33 PM
He then bumped into Anderson's dear friend John C. Reilly who asked him how he could miss the excellence, miss the point, of "There Will Be Blood."

They were totally fucking around.
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Post by: tpfkabi on February 22, 2008, 06:10:12 PM
Quote from: polkablues on February 13, 2008, 07:39:27 PM
There Will Be Bell (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1801890)

Trailer mashup with Saved By The Bell.  Only moderately amusing, but worth posting.

i finally came across this and i thought it was pretty funny.
as it was loading up i remembered that oil episode.
they should have found some way to put in the "i'm so excited, i'm so..........scared," scene (even thought it's a totally different episode).
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Post by: MacGuffin on February 24, 2008, 01:05:10 AM
Blood and 'Oil!'
By ANTHONY ARTHUR; New York Times

**READ AT OWN RISK**

The best moments in Paul Thomas Anderson's film "There Will Be Blood" and in "Oil!," the 1927 novel by Upton Sinclair on which it is loosely based, are identical. They depict the fiery immolation of an oil rig. "There was a tower of flame," Sinclair writes, "and the most amazing spectacle — the burning oil would hit the ground, and bounce up, and explode, and leap again and fall again, and great red masses of flame would unfold, and burst, and yield black masses of smoke, and these in turn red. Mountains of smoke rose to the sky, and mountains of flame came seething down to the earth; every jet that struck the ground turned into a volcano, and rose again, higher than before; the whole mass, boiling and bursting, became a river of fire, a lava flood that went streaming down the valley, turning everything it touched into flame, then swallowing it up and hiding the flames in a cloud of smoke."

Anderson's magnificent film fire bursts with the same kind of destructive energy — and the fascination with the hard, gritty detail of social and industrial processes — that marked Sinclair's writing at its best. Indeed, Sinclair was not without big-screen ambitions of his own. He flirted with Hollywood for most of his long life, beginning in 1914 with a six-reel silent movie of his most famous novel, "The Jungle" (1906). After moving to Pasadena in 1916, he made friends with Charlie Chaplin, Douglas Fairbanks Sr. and other movie people. Through Chaplin he met Sergei Eisenstein in 1931, and he ended up footing the bill for Eisenstein's aborted documentary about Mexico. In 1932, an MGM film version of his novel "The Wet Parade" was modestly successful. And in 1967, the year before Sinclair died at the age of 90, Walt Disney released "The Gnome-Mobile," based on the author's only children's book, the story of a brother and sister who band together with some forest gnomes to save a stand of ancient redwoods from a logging company.

But Sinclair, the author of more than 90 books, never made the big movie strike he hoped for. Anderson's version of his long-forgotten novel, however, has been nominated for eight Academy Awards, including best picture and best adapted screenplay. What is there about "Oil!" that has made it, by proxy, such a gusher?

Like most of Sinclair's books, "Oil!" was larger than life in subject and in theme. Set during the early Southern California oil boom and encompassing World War I, the Red Scare, the Teapot Dome scandal and the rise of the evangelical movement, it's about an oil baron who rips wealth from the earth, drives other men to do his will, fights off competitors and builds an empire through vision, courage, ruthlessness and the general greasing of palms.

The story of J. Arnold Ross, called "Dad," is told through the eyes of his loving but increasingly skeptical son, nicknamed Bunny; in fact, "Oil!" is more Bunny's story than Dad's. Following what for Sinclair was a familiar (and partly autobiographical) plot, the novel describes how a naïve, idealistic youth, born to privilege, becomes converted by degrees to a position of radical socialism. That transformation begins when Dad buys a remote Southern California ranch, where he will later strike oil, at a distress-sale price. Mr. Watkins, the owner, is a dimwitted religious fanatic with two sons, Paul and Eli. Paul, the older boy, rejects his father's religious views in favor of social activism. Honest and direct, Paul becomes a carpenter, working for Dad even as he becomes Bunny's friendly tutor and guide in the ways of social justice. Eli, by contrast, is sick in body and mind, an epileptic who claims to have religious visions and the power of healing. Modeled after the famous evangelist Aimee Semple McPherson, Eli is cunning, devious and ambitious, a gifted misuser of words that mislead and delude those who heed them.

While Bunny attends school in "Angel City" (Los Angeles) and Eli builds his church, Paul continues to work for Dad until America enters the war in Europe. Drafted into the Army and sent at the end of the war to fight the Bolsheviks in Russia, Paul is outraged and radicalized by what he experiences there. He joins the Communist Party of America upon his return home and becomes a labor union organizer in the California oil fields. As a former working man, Dad is unusually solicitous of his employees, but the more powerful oilmen in the region pressure him to resist Paul's union efforts. In the end, Paul is murdered by a right-wing mob, and Dad, who is not involved, dies of pneumonia (in reality, a broken heart), ruined by the oil cabal. "Oil!" closes with Bunny's sad realization that an "evil Power" "roams the earth, crippling the bodies of men and women, and luring the nations to destruction by visions of unearned wealth, and the opportunity to enslave and exploit labor."

Anderson's self-sufficient and misanthropic Daniel Plainview (as he renames Dad Ross) has no truck with Sinclairean theories of cause and effect. "I don't like explaining myself," says Anderson's Plainview, perhaps reflecting the director's own wish that his poetic and ultimately rather cryptic film speak for itself. Upton Sinclair, to the frequent detriment of his novels, loved explaining himself, especially his ideas about what was wrong with capitalism. Although "Oil!" is one of Sinclair's better novels, it still suffers from the author's insistence that literature should lead to the solution of social problems. Less interested in human psychology than in ideas, he blamed the capitalist system for all social ills and directed his literary and other energies (he ran for governor of California as a Democrat in 1934) toward changing that system to socialism. Sinclair's critics gibed that he had sold his birthright for a pot of message, and even his admirers wished that he had paid more attention to his art.

By contrast, "There Will Be Blood" is ingeniously artful in many ways, not least in its enthralling re-creation of the oil-boom era that Sinclair evoked in his novel. But where Sinclair could be overly didactic, Anderson's film suffers from a lack of thematic clarity, compounded by some of his shifts in emphasis. Paul, the avatar of honor in "Oil!," appears in the film only briefly, selling the secret of his father's oil to the rapacious Plainview before disappearing entirely. Eli the evangelist, who is presented satirically and largely fades from view after the novel's opening section, becomes Plainview's primary antagonist, and a wholly unredeemed villain, in the film. Sinclair would hardly have objected to the punishment Anderson ultimately inflicts on this charlatan — just a few years before "Oil!" he wrote "The Profits of Religion," a scorching broadside against organized churches, which he saw as "a source of income to parasites, and the natural ally of every form of oppression and exploitation." But for Sinclair, the problem was not with outright villains, of which there are few in his work, but with the system itself, with the false beliefs that cause people to behave badly.

In a crucial moment in the film, Paul and Eli's father asks Plainview about his religion. Amused, he responds vaguely that he admires all religions. In "Oil!" Dad teasingly claims adherence to an entirely new religion, the Church of the True Word. He suggests to Mr. Watkins that his son Paul looks to him like "the bearer" of "the true spirit of the Third Revelation." Eli then falls into a convulsive fit and rises born again as the prophet.

Eli's new religion, in Sinclair's novel, is not so much inspired by greed, as it is in the film, as by delusion. In the film, he's already on the make when Plainview first appears. Here, Sinclair's version is the richer; it's one of those moments when we understand that despite his limitations as a novelist, he could be witty and clever in getting his ideas across — in this instance, that it is vital to know when words are true and when they are false. A hint of this playful wit, critical but not malicious, would have been welcome in Daniel Plainview, allowing him to be regarded as something more than the destructive and ultimately unexplained villain and victim of "There Will Be Blood."

Anthony Arthur's biography "Radical Innocent: Upton Sinclair" was published in 2006.
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Post by: Redlum on February 24, 2008, 07:59:21 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/filmprogramme/filmprogramme.shtml

This starts out as fairly typical interview and film description but actually has some excellent tidbits and anecdotes from Paul Dano and PTA.
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Post by: ©brad on February 24, 2008, 04:37:27 PM
a-holes over at gawker obviously didn't get it.

Paul Thomas Anderson: Crazy Asshole, Apparently Liked Juno (http://gawker.com/359887/paul-thomas-anderson--crazy-asshole-apparently-liked-juno)

Paul Thomas Anderson, the auteur behind There Will Be Blood, recently had some angry words for Carpetbagger and delightful character David Carr. Anderson, who "can be a real arrogant brat", evidently flipped out on Carr when he overheard Carr saying that Blood wasn't his absolute, super-ist favorite movie of the year. "You know you don't know a fucking thing about movies!" he shrieked at "the Bagger", and added, cryptically, "[Blood is] the best movie of the year. Except for maybe Juno. And Clayton. And Atonement. Other than that, it was the best movie of the year." Well, I guess that's rather diplomatic of him. Though he's still an asshole: "You really think No Country for Old Men...that movie was better than ours? C'mon, do you really believe that?" Yup. A glorious, gifted asshole. Maybe he could take some lessons from Carr, who used to be quite the hard partier, on calming down and being cool. We think Carr's pretty good at it. [Hollywood Elsewhere] After the jump, video of the Carpetbagger kicking off the awards season.

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Post by: private witt on February 25, 2008, 12:00:32 AM
I'm so fricking sickened that TWBB didn't get best director or best picture.  NCFOM wasn't a quarter of  There Will Be Blood.  There is no justice.  What in fuck does PTA have to do to win best fucking picture?
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Post by: tpfkabi on February 25, 2008, 07:44:04 AM
there have been snubs.
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Post by: MacGuffin on February 25, 2008, 10:57:08 AM
Daniel Day-Lewis and the act of being
His ferocious commitment to his roles wins him Oscar No. 2 for 'There Will Be Blood.'
By Rachel Abramowitz, Los Angeles Times 

In the age of celebrity, where have all the actors gone?

That's what crossed the mind when Daniel Day-Lewis ascended the stage to collect the statuette for best leading actor for his role as the rapacious oilman Daniel Plainview in the epic "There Will Be Blood." From the moment he emerges from the bowels of a mine in the film's opening, Day-Lewis incarnates the spirit of unhinged American capitalism, just as he once vivified a gay English punk, a furious disabled artist, a 19th century American aristocrat and other iconic parts.

The 50-year-old, double-earringed Day-Lewis began his acceptance speech by sending up his own super-serious image, kneeling to Helen Mirren and cracking, "This is the closest I'll ever come to getting a knighthood." He then thanked the academy for "whacking me with the handsomest bludgeon in town."

For many moviegoers, Day-Lewis himself might be the handsomest bludgeon in town -- a pure, untainted artist who knows how to wallop the audience with raw emotion.

More than almost any other living actor, Day-Lewis has been able to escape the tarnishing effect of celebrity culture. He lives off the media grid in Wicklow, Ireland. He works rarely and speaks even less, appearing miraculously out of the collective memory to take on parts that it's hard to imagine anyone else playing.

And then there's the power of the transformation.

"He doesn't perform or act but mutates," said Michael Mann, who directed him in "The Last of the Mohicans."

The stories are legend of what Day-Lewis will do to fully inhabit his character. To play an Irish Republican Army partisan turned boxer in "The Boxer," he trained twice a day, seven days a week, for three years. For "Mohicans," he learned to hunt and built a canoe. To play a crime kingpin in "Gangs of New York," he practiced throwing deadly knives and reportedly glared so much at costar Leonardo DiCaprio he intimidated the young superstar.

To those who've worked with Day-Lewis, the legends often misconstrue what he is actually doing.

"It's a kind of a different level of focus than the normal person," said director Jim Sheridan, who's worked with Day-Lewis on a series of films, including "My Left Foot."

Yet Sheridan stresses that Day-Lewis' ferocious commitment is not an exercise in ego but in empathy. For instance, in "In the Name of the Father," which was based on true events, Day-Lewis plays a man falsely imprisoned for an IRA bombing. One of the plot's conundrums was why Day-Lewis' character would sign a false confession.

"That seemed very hard to muddle through logically," Sheridan said. But not after Day-Lewis stayed up two to three days in a row in a prison cell. "He was in a kind of emotional condition when we were doing the scene. . . . He was close to tears because he was very tired. That answered all the questions of logic."

Similarly, in his last Oscar-winning performance, "My Left Foot," Day-Lewis spent eight weeks learning to paint with his left foot like his true-life protagonist, Irish writer and artist Christy Brown, who had cerebral palsy. And yes, he did spend the whole time making the film in his wheelchair. But, Sheridan pointed out, "we actually filmed with children who had cerebral palsy. I wondered what it would be like if you had an actor who stood up [at the end of] filming and walked out. It was a commitment to their suffering that he stayed in character."

Paul Dano, the young actor who plays Plainview's antagonist Eli Sunday in "There Will Be Blood," did keep his distance from Day-Lewis during the filming. "A lot of people think he's strange to be that committed, but it really makes sense when you see it in person." During the film, Daniel Day-Lewis shoved Dano's face in the mud and hurled prop bowling balls at him, but, Dano explained, "as much as he goes through or puts himself through, he never expects another actor to do the same, as long as they get to where they need to get to. . He doesn't have any ego. He would let me slap him in the face, but he'd never expect to slap me in the face unless I wanted it to happen."

In today's film world, transformative acting is more often associated with women. The great chameleons of today are people like Nicole Kidman, Meryl Streep and Cate Blanchett. Their essential natures remain mysterious no matter how much the media attempt to pin them down. By contrast, the male stars, even great ones like Will Smith or Sean Penn, maintain some recognizable vestige of themselves from role to role.

But not Day-Lewis. He can truly mutate because of the unerring and often thrilling control he maintains over his physical being.

Mann said that physicality is one of Day-Lewis' important portals through which he arrives at a character's emotional state. For "Mohicans," the actor learned all the skills of an 18th century Native American. "He kind of works through the physical," said Mann, so much so that it affects "all the complex circuitry in his wiring pattern" of his brain, which "starts to refract into your attitude."

"Daniel had just come off of what happened on the London stage," recalled his "Mohicans" costar, Madeleine Stowe, referring to the notorious incident in which Day-Lewis, playing Hamlet at the National Theatre, ran from the stage crying, convinced he was talking to the ghost of his own dead father. "I felt from him a great deal of uncertainty until he got into the physicality of the character."

Day-Lewis often seems to fuse with his directors, working repeatedly with Martin Scorsese and Sheridan. In his Oscar acceptance speech, he said that his Daniel Plainview "sprang like a golden sapling out of the mad beautiful head of Paul Thomas Anderson."

Sheridan says Day-Lewis doesn't like to rehearse and doesn't need direction, just a kind of watchful nurturing. "There's the being observed by whoever directs. Although I think Daniel comes as prepared as any actor, the observation is still of paramount importance."

And then there's just Day-Lewis' own idiosyncratic brand of magic -- the ineluctable energy that defies parsing. In retrospect, it's easy to see how he merged so completely with Daniel Plainview, the ferocious human inferno who nonetheless encapsulates human frailty.

Whenever he was asked to describe his character's driving impulse, Day-Lewis often used the metaphor of a man gripped by a fever. In Plainview's case, it was for oil; in Day-Lewis' case, the sometimes-brutal quest is for transcendence.

"The work becomes an end in itself," Day-Lewis explained to one interviewer. "And I think that's also true of the, you know, if you compare that fever to the fever of prospecting, that those guys that thought they knew what they were after, which is the vast mansion on the Pacific Coast, by the time they had accumulated enough wealth to build that pyramid for themselves, the work was actually an end in itself. The fever was the thing that they lived for."
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Post by: Pozer on February 25, 2008, 11:46:00 AM
Quote from: ©MBBrad on February 24, 2008, 04:37:27 PM
a-holes over at gawker obviously didn't get it.

Paul Thomas Anderson: Crazy Asshole, Apparently Liked Juno (http://gawker.com/359887/paul-thomas-anderson--crazy-asshole-apparently-liked-juno)

Paul Thomas Anderson, the auteur behind There Will Be Blood, recently had some angry words for Carpetbagger and delightful character David Carr. Anderson, who "can be a real arrogant brat", evidently flipped out on Carr when he overheard Carr saying that Blood wasn't his absolute, super-ist favorite movie of the year. "You know you don't know a fucking thing about movies!" he shrieked at "the Bagger", and added, cryptically, "[Blood is] the best movie of the year. Except for maybe Juno. And Clayton. And Atonement. Other than that, it was the best movie of the year." Well, I guess that's rather diplomatic of him. Though he's still an asshole: "You really think No Country for Old Men...that movie was better than ours? C'mon, do you really believe that?" Yup. A glorious, gifted asshole. Maybe he could take some lessons from Carr, who used to be quite the hard partier, on calming down and being cool. We think Carr's pretty good at it. [Hollywood Elsewhere] After the jump, video of the Carpetbagger kicking off the awards season.

sounds like a classic case of purple monkey dishwasher.
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Post by: 72teeth on February 25, 2008, 06:26:56 PM
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wow, "Oscar" gets cheaper and cheaper by the year, doesnt he....
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Post by: Astrostic on February 27, 2008, 12:45:46 PM
the best thing to come out of the TWBB imdb message board: http://transcendentfilms.com/monopolyboard_fin.jpg
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Post by: Stefen on February 29, 2008, 11:20:12 PM
Anyone else just been, watching this........non stop?
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Post by: jtm on March 01, 2008, 12:53:00 AM
i've seen it approximately 16 times. and a few select scenes MANY times more than that... i've cut back in anticipation of the DVD.
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Post by: john on March 01, 2008, 03:33:15 AM
Yeah, I've watched it theatrically about four times now. Each viewing has been equally emotional - it still hits every note as perfectly, even emphasizing moments I might have glossed over upon initial viewing.

But the excitement to see it waned... not in a bad way, I just worried that it would be as special if it was at my disposal. It's currently playing less than a mile away from me and I've avoided it for that very reason (not to mention that the theater it's playing in is terrible.)

So I'm now holding off until the presumed Blu-Ray... or DVD... either way. Build up that excitement again, let it grow in my mind - avoid clips and parodies... then let it be at my disposal all over again.

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Post by: Myxo on March 02, 2008, 08:35:43 AM
Quote from: private witt on February 25, 2008, 12:00:32 AM
I'm so fricking sickened that TWBB didn't get best director or best picture.  NCFOM wasn't a quarter of  There Will Be Blood.  There is no justice.  What in fuck does PTA have to do to win best fucking picture?

Make a picture that an audience could relate to better, or find entertaining. As much as I loved TWBB, there is a quality about the film that makes it a bit of a chore. Nobody who loves films can deny it's greatness, but something like NCFOM is indelibly fun to watch for all 122 minutes. As an Oscar voter, when you put two films side by side and you're forced to vote for one, putting bias aside, how would you do it? I think alot of voters probably remember their experience actually enjoying the film as a whole.

At the very least however, I thought PTA deserved a "Best Director" nod.
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Post by: modage on March 04, 2008, 07:30:55 PM
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Daniel Day Lewis + Paul Thomas Anderson
December 11, 2007
Daniel Day-Lewis's magnificent performance as the ambitious and ruthless oil tycoon Daniel Plainview is at the core of Paul Thomas Anderson's critically acclaimed movie There Will be Blood. In this discussion, which followed a Museum of the Moving Image preview screening of the film, the actor and director playfully and thoughtfully discussed their intense collaborative process.

mp3 interview:
http://movingimage.us/pinewood/mp3.php?media_id=335

or read the transcript!:
http://www.movingimage.us/pinewood/files/pinewood/2/96175_programs_transcript_html_296.htm
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Post by: Redlum on March 15, 2008, 07:38:57 AM
Quote from: Myxo on March 02, 2008, 08:35:43 AM
Quote from: private witt on February 25, 2008, 12:00:32 AM
I'm so fricking sickened that TWBB didn't get best director or best picture.  NCFOM wasn't a quarter of  There Will Be Blood.  There is no justice.  What in fuck does PTA have to do to win best fucking picture?

Make a picture that an audience could relate to better, or find entertaining. As much as I loved TWBB, there is a quality about the film that makes it a bit of a chore. Nobody who loves films can deny it's greatness, but something like NCFOM is indelibly fun to watch for all 122 minutes. As an Oscar voter, when you put two films side by side and you're forced to vote for one, putting bias aside, how would you do it? I think alot of voters probably remember their experience actually enjoying the film as a whole.

Schindler's List?

Mod, thanks for the above.

thedigitalbits.com's "Bitsy Awards" honour There Will Be Blood with their poster image this year
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Post by: soixante on April 21, 2008, 08:45:44 PM
Saw TWBB twice in theaters.  First showing, Arclight, 12-26, then a few weeks ago.  This is a future classic, and unquestionably puts PTA atop the A-List.
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Post by: Alexandro on August 03, 2008, 12:34:50 PM
from guardian

There Will Be Blood relations
In the first of a fortnightly new series, Philip Horne examines the cinematic ancestors of a newly-released DVD. This week: There Will Be Blood
Philip Horne guardian.co.uk, Monday July 28 2008 Article history


I wasn't the only one to notice that Daniel Day-Lewis's magnificently unsettling, hollow, powerfully unctuous evil-patriarch voice as Daniel Plainview in There Will Be Blood sounded like John Huston's as the evil patriarch Noah Cross at the end of Polanski's great Chinatown – play-acting at kindly avuncularity in order to conceal a real deep loathing and distrust of others.

The link isn't, I think, a mere film-nerd footnote. The vocal echo makes sense: the Old Testament names Daniel and Noah suggest how, recent as the past being dealt with is – 1898-1927 in Blood, the 1930s in Chinatown – that can count as ancient history, as a kind of tribal, ancestral legend, in so newly modernised a territory as California. These are the founding fathers, and although the Western frontier was declared closed in the 1890s, their magnificent, sinister achievement is, by stamping their will on California's land and people, to dominate what Cross calls "The future, Mr. Gittes, the future!"

Only when I breathe ... John Huston and Jack Nicholson in Chinatown. Photo: Kobal These are elemental stories. Paul Thomas Anderson's brave, intensely disturbing, all too timely Californian epic of the early days of the oil business is based on Upton Sinclair's novel Oil!, and correspondingly one of its dominant images is of fire; while Chinatown, from Robert Towne's original script, is all about Water – as a source of life, a commodity, a means to power – and as an image that runs right through the film. (In the sequel to Chinatown, The Two Jakes, incidentally, oil turns out to be the driving force in the plot.) In both films the patriarch embodies a capitalist will to power and ruthless expansion, seen as a kind of primal madness.

Digressing a moment to add another element – the air – we could add the New Yorker Scorsese's own contribution to the sub-genre of Californian capitalist epic, his exhilarating Howard Hughes movie The Aviator. If Noah Cross is pretty clearly a villain, and Daniel Plainview at best an anti-hero, Scorsese's Hughes, played by Leonardo DiCaprio, after all, might appear to be more like a conventional hero – he starts as an underdog, and heroically overcomes huge obstacles en route to world domination. We certainly root for him in his majestic performance in the Senate hearings, and against his splendidly hateful competitor Alec Baldwin. But Scorsese, who thinks of American directors as smugglers of non-obvious subversive arguments and analyses, builds up a picture of Hughes's private insanity and drivenness which suggests that the corporate-technological modernity we're still increasingly experiencing has been shaped by something dark and out of control. Like Cross, Hughes ends by signalling his interest in us, in posterity: his way, he declares, resoundingly, is "the way of the future".

Singing in the bathtub ... Leonardo DiCaprio in The Aviator. Photo: Kobal Both Daniel and Noah in their different ways disfigure their own families. These movies are foundation myths, and there's something allegorical about the tragic distortion of family relations in both. In his overweening desire to dominate and possess Noah Cross sleeps with and impregnates his own daughter Evelyn (Faye Dunaway), so that the resulting child is both his daughter and granddaughter. It ends, unforgettably, in bloody destruction – but not (capitalists are survivors) of Cross himself. The apparently sexless Daniel Plainview has no real family, only surrogates: the adoptive orphan H.W. (Dillon Freasier), whom he pretends is his son (he needs "a sweet face to buy land", as he brutally says); the haunting, gentle stranger (Kevin J. O'Connor) who pretends to him that he is his long-lost half-brother Henry; and then Eli (Paul Dano), the charismatic young preacher whose weirdly ambivalent quasi-Oedipal relation with the violently atheistic Daniel seems a metaphor for the queasy relation between capitalist greed and religion in America. Of these three intimate ties, none survives at the end: Daniel has laid waste to all around him.

Daniel Day Lewis and Cillian Hinds in There Will Be Blood. Photo: Kobal There Will Be Blood and Chinatown both look back to the time when California was uncultivated, or unspoilt – a blank slate, often a mere desert. They present and dramatise, and problematise, the process by which money and power transform the original landscapes of what used to seem a paradise into corporate domains – owned, overbuilt, profit-yielding properties that have been wrenched by fraud, strength and cunning from original small-holders (the dodgy acquisition of land is a focus in both). To construct their stories of how California so quickly came to be what it is today, they individualise and pathologise the drive to power. In Anderson's disconcerting anti-epic, mining becomes an image of the human urge to dominate the earth – the blasting and drilling of the land to gouge out silver and oil, a dirty process that also involves as his title implies the shedding of a good deal of blood.

Erich von Stroheim's Greed. Photo: Kobal In this respect, it looks back to the father of all Californian capitalist sagas, made three years before the action of Blood Will Have Blood finishes. Greed, Erich Von Stroheim's ill-fated silent masterpiece of 1924, was cut down by MGM from nine hours to just over two. Greed, based on the naturalist novel McTeague (1899) by Sinclair's contemporary Frank Norris, takes gold as its element – symbolically linking mining (McTeague's first job), dentistry (his second) and the all-distorting fact of money – and like Anderson's film follows through to its logical conclusion the murderous competitive drives of its central character (they're also alike in their minute attention to the realistic details of their protagonists' trades). Greed's tale of atavistic appetites and competitive rivalries culminates in an absurd, murderous fight – an image of human fatuity, bringing mutually assured destruction – in the middle of the baking, dry-as-a-bone Death Valley. That scene – two tiny figures, slugging it out to extinction in the middle of a white, horrifyingly alien blankness – might be the emblem of these bleak, visionary, thought-provoking films.



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Post by: Just Withnail on August 03, 2008, 04:52:59 PM
Quote from: guardian
Blood Will Have Blood
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Post by: MacGuffin on September 01, 2008, 01:45:13 PM
Fipresci hands prize to 'Blood'
Anderson to receive award in San Sebastian
Source: Variety

MADRID — Paul Thomas Anderson's searing portrait of overweening ambition, "There Will Be Blood," has won the Fipresci (the Intl. Federation of Film Critics) Grand Prix for film of the year.

Anderson will pick up the prize in person at the opening ceremony of San Sebastian Festival on Sept. 18.

The latest kudos comes after "Blood" took director at Berlin and Academy Awards for Daniel Day Lewis for lead actor and Robert Elswit for cinematography.

The plaudit from the world's foremost film critics' org consolidates Anderson's position as one of the most critically admired directors out.

Fipresci noted Monday that Anderson had been a clear winner among the 242 critics who voted this year for the Grand Prix.

Anderson already won a Fipresci Grand Prix in 2000 for "Magnolia."

Other recent winners, pointing to top niches in a modern critics' pantheon, are Nuri Ceylan Bilge's "Uzak," Jean-Luc Godard's "Notre musique," Kim Ki-duk's "3-Iron," Pedro Almodovar's "Volver" and, last year, Cristian Mungiu's "4 Months, 3 Weeks & 2 Days."
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Post by: matt35mm on September 01, 2008, 02:13:00 PM
Nice.
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Post by: Convael on September 01, 2008, 07:15:16 PM
It's probably not likely to be televised is it?
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Post by: matt35mm on September 01, 2008, 07:25:34 PM
It probably just looks like it did on the Magnolia DVD.
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Post by: New Feeling on September 01, 2008, 10:39:18 PM
Quote from: matt35mm on September 01, 2008, 07:25:34 PM
It probably just looks like it did on the Magnolia DVD.

except that was PTA winning the Golden Bear at Berlin in 2000 for Magnolia instead of PTA winning the Fripisci prize for TWBB in 2008.  But other than the fact that it's a completely different time, place, and event, never to repeat itself in all of history, and experienced and witnessed by an almost completely different group of people, it will probably be exactly the same. 
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Post by: matt35mm on September 02, 2008, 12:10:29 AM
They all look the same to me.  Guy up there with a golden thing, saying thanks.  From what we know of PTA, it's not unlikely that he was wearing the same suit.

Of course it's not the same event.  You didn't have to explain the nature of time to me.  I just said that it probably looks the same.  If you just change the last words of your post to say, "will probably look exactly the same," then that would be what I would have liked to say.

But I did confuse the Golden Bear with the Fripisci.  You got me there.
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Post by: MacGuffin on January 05, 2009, 07:35:25 PM
Why everyone lies about their movie's budget
Source: Patrick Goldstein; Los Angeles Times

I was at PEN USA's annual Literary Awards Festival a few weeks ago, having a great time, hobnobbing with all sorts of illustrious writers, when I ran into "There Will Be Blood's" writer-director Paul Thomas Anderson, who was there to accept an award for his film script. A huge fan of his work, I told him how much I'd liked his movie. He nodded and shyly smiled, and I thought he might say something like, "Oh, geez, thanks for the compliment." What he really said was: "In that story you did, you got the budget wrong."

If I actually believed in New Year's resolutions, I'd happily promise to never write about a movie's budget ever again -- all it does is cause pain and misery, both for the press, which is always being spun by studio executives and producers, and for the filmmakers, who are always convinced that clueless reporters and columnists are wildly inflating their movie budgets. (It is safe to say that no one in the history of Hollywood has ever complained about the press underestimating the cost of his or her movie.)

To be fair, Anderson wasn't all that angry. We went on to have a perfectly amiable conversation. But I'm sure he was unhappy, since when I made reference to his budget, which I said was in the vicinity of $45 million, I was making the point that his movie -- a dark, intense historical drama -- cost so much (along with the marketing outlays of Paramount Vantage's Oscar campaign) that it could never possibly make a decent profit.

The problem that journalists have in reporting about movie budgets is that nearly everyone they ask about a movie's budget tends to -- how do I put this nicely -- offer a whopper of an untruth. In other words, shock of all shocks, people in Hollywood lie. The studio chief who made the movie gives you a low-ball number. The head of a rival studio, eager to make a competitor look bad, gives you a wildly inflated number. Most journalists have reported that Baz Luhrmann's recent film, "Australia," cost $130 million. 20th Century Fox insists that it cost less, saying it received a hefty subsidy from the Australian government, knocking $30 or so million off that figure. But every rival studio chief I spoke to about the film said with great authority, as if they'd seen a host of internal Fox documents, that the film cost $170 or $180 or $200 million, just to throw out the three different figures I got from three different executives.

What's a reporter to do? Who tells the biggest whoppers? And how does one reporter use triangulation to figure out the real budget number? Keep reading:

I'm old-fashioned about reporting budget numbers. I like to go to the source. In other words, I try not to report a number unless I've gotten it from a top executive at the studio (or financing company) that made the picture or a producer or some other high-level member of the production team. You'd think this would work out pretty smoothly, but even then, I've discovered that budget numbers are a slippery business.

My colleague John Horn, who is something of an expert on movie budgets, since he is always writing about film profitability, reminded me of the legendary example of funny numbers involving Jeffrey Katzenberg and his DreamWorks Animation films. When "Shrek 2" was being released, Katzenberg (like most studio execs) was eager to make the film look as profitable as possible, so he didn't stop reporters from believing his movie cost a pittance. That's why Newsweek, in 2004, reported that the film's stars Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy and Cameron Diaz "got $10 million each to reprise their characters, which accounted for almost half the film's modest $70 million budget." But after DreamWorks Animation went public, its budget figures suddenly soared dramatically, with the company acknowledging that the original "Shrek" cost closer to $130 million, with its and other DreamWorks sequels costing "15 to 30% higher" than that.

Once burned, twice shy, which is why the showbiz media has a healthy skepticism about budgetary information from studio executives. Sometimes you get the feeling that you could ask five people who worked on a film to tell you the budget -- and you'd get five different answers. When I was writing about the unknown screenwriter who'd penned Clint Eastwood's "Gran Torino" last month, I reported that the movie (co-financed by Warners and Village Roadshow) cost $35 million. Warners immediately called to complain, saying my number was totally wrong. Rob Lorenz, a delightful guy who's one of the producers of the film -- and has worked with Eastwood for years -- asked how I could have possibly gotten such a wrong figure. Actually, I told him, I got the budget figure from Bill Gerber, who -- ahem -- was the other producer of the film, with Lorenz and Eastwood. Since Gerber had once been a head of production at Warners, I figured he knew what he was talking about. Lorenz told me the film cost closer to $25 million, so I amended the figure, saying the film cost "less than $30 million."

This happens all the time. I wrote in a recent post that Sam Mendes' "Revolutionary Road," a Paramount film produced by DreamWorks, cost $45 million. I didn't make up the number -- it's what a top executive at Paramount (which then owned DreamWorks) told me the film cost. As soon as the story ran, Stacey Snider, who runs DreamWorks, e-mailed me to say the film only cost $35 million. It seems unlikely that Paramount would inflate the cost of a film it financed and distributed, since if "Revolutionary Road" fails to find an audience, it will look like an ever bigger flop if it cost $45 million instead of $35 million. But I also trust Snider, who has a better track record than most studio chiefs in offering honest numbers. So what does the movie cost? Let's just say -- that's a work in progress.

As you can see, assessing movie budgets is a skill that relies on instinct as much as actual reporting. Horn uses something akin to triangulation, i.e. the art of measuring from three different points of reference, the epicenter being where those lines intersect. As he puts it: "Ask three people without axes to grind, or reasons to lie, what a movie's budget is, and the average of those numbers can be a close approximation of the film's true cost."

When Horn was reporting on the budget of "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" for his Word of Mouth column, he asked a few executives "close to Paramount" what the film cost. Two got back to him. One said $175 million. Another said $185 million. Horn ran the lower figure. Even so, the studio complained, saying that while the film's initial budget was in fact $175 million, incentives from Canada and Louisiana -- where much of the film was shot -- reduced the actual cost to $150 million. The Times published a clarification to explain why our original budget number was off the mark.

But right around the time that Paramount was upset that our "Benjamin Button" number was too high, I found myself on the phone with a studio boss who complained that our "Button" number was too low, saying, "You guys are so gullible. That movie cost at least $200 million." I guess that makes us damned if we do, damned if we don't. It makes for a frustrating experience all around. As a baseball junkie, I take pleasure in the sanctity of numbers. You know that at the end of game you can accurately calculate every player's batting average, based solely on his performance. Fudging isn't allowed. If a player's hitting .315, he's hitting .315. If he goes 0-for-4 in the next game, his batting average goes down. No explanation, no exception.

But movie budgets, like everything else about the business, are never black and white. In Hollywood, the numbers are a lot like the truth -- they are always subject to interpretation. 
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Post by: Kal on January 05, 2009, 08:56:11 PM
Terrific article Mac. And I don't want to argue with you, Master of the Xixax Universe, but why did you post it here? It has almost nothing to do with PTA and a lot to do with film business in general. If we don't have a thread where we discuss this we should have it. It's very useful information for aspiring filmmakers and people who want to work in film.
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Post by: pete on January 05, 2009, 09:23:42 PM
mamet made a good point about how studios like to advertise the budget of their films to make the viewers feel important - look at this 90-minute long spectacle that lacked drama or entertainment that costed $90mil, and we did it just for you!
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Post by: Stefen on January 05, 2009, 10:01:40 PM
Quote from: pete on January 05, 2009, 09:23:42 PM
mamet made a good point about how studios like to advertise the budget of their films to make the viewers feel important - look at this 90-minute long spectacle that lacked drama or entertainment that costed $90mil, and we did it just for you!

And it works. Average audiences are dumb as shit. If something costs alot, then it must be good otherwise, who would put that much money into something that isn't? They're a bunch of dickheads.

All big budgets do is force filmmakers to use money to get their movie made instead of creativity.
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Post by: tpfkabi on January 05, 2009, 10:35:30 PM
Did I miss it while skimming or did he never present the correct budget amount for TWBB?
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Post by: Kal on January 05, 2009, 11:04:58 PM
production budget for TWBB was $25M
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Post by: modage on April 20, 2009, 05:19:07 PM
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Post by: polkablues on April 20, 2009, 06:18:22 PM
Haha, I saw that on failblog, too.  I'm convinced the marquee guy knew exactly what he was doing.  Which makes it not a fail at all, but a great big juicy win.
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Post by: md on October 12, 2009, 07:33:23 PM
I'm a second AC on a feature about this deaf wrestler who went to my college in the 90's, and low and behold the actor casted is no other than the bastard in the basket.

Curiously, I asked him what its like working with PTA, and actually being deaf, he signed to me "The motherfucker cut all my good scenes out" -- at least that's what I interpreted. 


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Post by: Stefen on October 12, 2009, 08:08:59 PM
haha, that's awesome.
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Post by: md on October 13, 2009, 09:11:30 PM
hey, sorry for the confusion, but that's just what i interpreted...what he really said is that paul is a really sweet guy, would work with him again in a heartbeat, and that he's a little off his rocker (smiling).  I did ask him about the cut scenes and he named off about 4 or 5 that were shot but later removed. 
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Post by: Convael on October 13, 2009, 11:59:23 PM
Emily Watson said that he's fucking insane too but in interviews he comes off as pretty normal to me...especially since he got a little older.  He calmed down a lot.  He actually kinda looks/talks like someone who's in their 50s/60s.  That's kinda strange that there were more scenes filmed because I'm pretty sure that there isn't more in the script with the older HW than what's in the movie.
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Post by: ©brad on October 14, 2009, 12:02:05 PM
Quote from: Convael on October 13, 2009, 11:59:23 PM
Emily Watson said that he's fucking insane too..

She did?
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Post by: Convael on October 14, 2009, 12:12:59 PM
Quote from: ©brad on October 14, 2009, 12:02:05 PM
Quote from: Convael on October 13, 2009, 11:59:23 PM
Emily Watson said that he's fucking insane too..

She did?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/paul-thomas-anderson-young-and-breathless-602787.html

I just googled "emily watson" and "pt anderson" and "sugar".  I guess she said "bonkers," "quite screwed up."  And saying someone is less crazy than Lars von Trier isn't saying a whole lot.
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Post by: Pozer on October 14, 2009, 01:04:53 PM
some years back i worked on a short film that starred the chick that played the phone sex operator in PDL. i got to talkin with her a couple of times and of course all i asked about was PTA and she said the same thing, dude is absolutely insane/cut all my scenes. said it was an out of this world movie set/best movie set ever.
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Post by: SiliasRuby on October 14, 2009, 01:07:22 PM
Quote from: Pozer on October 14, 2009, 01:04:53 PM
some years back i worked on a short film that starred the chick that played the phone sex operator in PDL. i got to talkin with her a couple of times and of course all i asked about was PTA and she said the same thing, dude is absolutely insane/cut all my scenes. said it was an out of this world movie set/best movie set ever.
can those two statements work together, hand in hand?
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Post by: md on October 14, 2009, 01:22:20 PM
i'd imagine insane or crazy might be self referenced as an excuse to all the changes being made during the making of his films.  I'd imagine that they work the crew and actors like crazy given their pay. 

One other interesting thing was Old HW's eagerness to speak about DDL.  He said something like, "when that guy is working he is in character 24/7, only when his wife and kids are there does he act normal."
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Post by: Convael on October 14, 2009, 07:44:32 PM
Quote from: md on October 14, 2009, 01:22:20 PM
i'd imagine insane or crazy might be self referenced as an excuse to all the changes being made during the making of his films.  I'd imagine that they work the crew and actors like crazy given their pay.
Can you expand on that please?  Like what changes made during the filming/what's their pay like?
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Post by: idk on October 14, 2009, 08:27:04 PM
Quote from: md on October 13, 2009, 09:11:30 PM
I did ask him about the cut scenes and he named off about 4 or 5 that were shot but later removed. 

Feel free to expand on this also.
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Post by: theyarelegion on October 14, 2009, 08:38:14 PM
Quote from: Convael on October 13, 2009, 11:59:23 PM
That's kinda strange that there were more scenes filmed because I'm pretty sure that there isn't more in the script with the older HW than what's in the movie.

In an earlier draft of the script there are a couple of other scenes with the older HW. Mainly one with Fletcher and another with Paul Sunday.
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Post by: Pozer on October 15, 2009, 04:33:44 PM
wasted your 82nd post..

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Post by: Stefen on October 15, 2009, 05:34:11 PM
haha. I wonder what everyone's 82nd was.
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Post by: john on October 15, 2009, 07:52:21 PM
Quote from: Convael on October 14, 2009, 12:12:59 PM

And saying someone is less crazy than Lars von Trier isn't saying a whole lot.

Incidentally, I just picked up the South Park movie on Blu-Ray and there's a pretty anecdotal commentary track byStone and Parker. They discuss going to the Oscars wearing dresses, then losing "Best Song" to Phil Collins and how, when Collins name was called as the winner, they say PTA stand up and shout "No!". They said it was much more punk rock than wearing dresses to the Oscars and the immediate respect they had for him at that moment.

They also commented "Dude is crazy."
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Post by: B.C. Long on October 19, 2009, 11:36:44 PM
It's funny you guys should mention that cuz I was at a bus stop and I saw the black lady who plays Marcie in Magnolia and she said that she would have to make Paul a grilled cheese sandwich almost everyday to calm him down onset or else he would have a manic episode and start throwing frog props at everyone.
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Post by: SiliasRuby on October 20, 2009, 12:09:34 AM
Every time I visit this thread I expect Pubrick's review of this film...but alas, no...
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Post by: Stefen on October 20, 2009, 03:14:56 AM
lol@all these PTA stories.

And it is in the humble opinion of this narrator that this is not just "something that happened." This cannot be
"one of those things." This, please, cannot be that. And for what I would like to say, I can't. This was not just
a matter of chance. These strange things happen all the time.
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Post by: Gamblour. on October 21, 2009, 01:15:17 PM
I just ran into PTA on the street, and he fucking stabbed me. FOR NO REASON. Dude is crazy.
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Post by: Stefen on October 21, 2009, 03:03:06 PM
PTA STOLE MY IDENTITY!
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Post by: picolas on October 21, 2009, 04:07:28 PM
he came running towards me with a look on his face that could only mean "you will die now!" i fired the only silver bullet left in the chamber. he caught it between his teeth with ease and stopped short. "thank you. that's all i needed." he said. he then reset the clock on my microwave and disappeared in a cloud of smoke and sparkling confetti.
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Post by: ©brad on October 21, 2009, 05:26:36 PM
Just ran into PTA on the subway. He grabbed me by the shoulders and screamed "WHERE THE FUCK IS RINGO YOU BITCH."

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Post by: MacGuffin on October 22, 2009, 01:36:47 AM
I know this guy who heard it from another guy that heard that PTA shot a man just to watch him die. Then kicked him repeatedly with his rollerblade while shouting, "That's For Drinking My Milkshake, Bitch!"
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Post by: polkablues on October 22, 2009, 01:46:44 AM
I read on TMZ that PTA went on vacation to Vietnam, and with nothing but the clothes on his back and a suitcase full of F-bombs, retroactively won the war.  THE IRAQ WAR.
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Post by: jtm on October 22, 2009, 03:41:13 AM
PTA raped my mother tonight. 
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Post by: cine on October 22, 2009, 04:07:55 AM
when i was in NYC this week, i ran into PTA on the street, and he fucking stabbed me. then in a menacing voice he said "this time i have a reason!"

then he ran off yelling to no one in particular "frogs! you're alllllll frogs!!"
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on October 22, 2009, 05:21:43 AM
When I met PTA, he tried to pawn his copy of Death Proof on me. Such an asshole.
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Post by: RegularKarate on October 22, 2009, 11:15:38 AM
Really guys?  He did all that stuff?  I ran into him this past weekend and he seemed super nice.  Signed my dvd and everyth....

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Post by: B.C. Long on October 22, 2009, 11:20:29 AM
frogs! you're alllllll frogs!!!!!!!
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Post by: AntiDumbFrogQuestion on October 22, 2009, 12:17:13 PM
I was eating at an Applebees and went to go pick up some ketchup from another table for our chili fries
when I turned around, there was PTA eating the croutons off my salad

our eyes locked
He gave me the finger and ran off
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Post by: polkablues on October 22, 2009, 02:31:48 PM
I was watching an interview with Werner Herzog and they asked him about PTA. Herzog turned pale and fainted.
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Post by: modage on October 22, 2009, 02:46:17 PM
I heard that the Mo'Nique role in Precious is based on PTA.

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Post by: picolas on October 22, 2009, 10:18:47 PM
the new york times claims he's trying to make a higgs boson particle before the large hadron collider does. in his basement. just so he can take credit for wrecking the universe.

and he's been using pearl for illegal baby fights on the side.
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Post by: cine on October 23, 2009, 12:35:04 AM
i can't remember which article it was in, but i read somewhere that Paul forced Maya into having multiple abortions in 2004 because the fetus wasn't "Pearly" enough.
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Post by: SiliasRuby on October 23, 2009, 12:46:31 AM
okay, this is going too far now...
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Post by: picolas on October 23, 2009, 01:16:28 AM
i leant him my complete sopranos box set. he returned it a couple hours later with the first disc missing. when i texted him about it, he sent this:

: 0 .... : >
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Post by: polkablues on October 23, 2009, 02:01:59 AM
Quentin Tarantino based every character in "Inglourious Basterds" on PTA, including Hitler.  Also, "Kill Bill" was adapted from his diary.
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Post by: Pozer on October 23, 2009, 02:35:37 PM
PTA sucked me off last night and when he finished i looked down at him and said 'you're so PTGAY.' such a laugh we shared. 
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Post by: picolas on October 23, 2009, 02:44:01 PM
he does have his moments. just last week he shat on my boss' doorstep. i didn't even need to tell him to do it. it just happened.
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Post by: squints on October 23, 2009, 06:01:15 PM
Last week i was walking through the woods and underneath some brush was PTA. He was eating himself, just slowly taking bites of his guts. It was really gross but then he looked me straight in the eye and uttered "Chaos....REIGNS!" i nearly shat myself.
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Post by: polkablues on October 23, 2009, 06:07:44 PM
One time I was with PTA in the back of a pickup truck, along with a live deer.  Paul goes up to the deer and says, "I'm Paul Thomas Anderson!  SAY IT!"  Then he manipulates the deer's lips in such a way as to make it say, "paulthomasanderson" ... It wasn't exactly like it, but it was pretty good for a deer!
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Post by: Gamblour. on October 23, 2009, 09:50:24 PM
A few minutes ago, I was in line for groceries, and Paul Thomas Anderson was in front of me. He told me that Paul W. S. Anderson is actually him but from a different dimension. The two can never touch, or they will both cancel each other out of existence. He said he plans on killing PWSA, and judging from the bow and arrow in his basket (which they sell at the grocery we were at), he meant it.
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Post by: MacGuffin on October 23, 2009, 10:15:37 PM
I just read in a Rolling Stone interview that, during the entire production, Lars Von Trier was stumped on what to call his latest film. Then he was reminded of his interview with PTA in Black Book. The title, Antichrist, was instantly born.
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Post by: picolas on October 24, 2009, 04:29:55 AM
the activity in paranormal activity was based on him too.
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Post by: B.C. Long on October 24, 2009, 05:04:15 PM
I heard that PTA auditioned for the part of Chelsea's boyfriend in the Girlfriend experience. Soderbergh told him he wasn't right for the part and Paul left the room, came back with the Boogie Nights DVD and  forced Steven to gag it, then eat it, while Sasha Grey watched. As he was doing this PTA kept screaming  "You don't know what I can do! You don't know what I can do, what I'm gonna do, or what I'm gonna be! I'm good! I have good things and you don't know about! I'm gonna be something! I am! And don't fucking tell me I'm not!"

Charlie Kaufman is now writing a screenplay based on this event called "The PTA Experience". Sasha Grey will make her directorial debut.
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Post by: squints on October 24, 2009, 09:27:51 PM
These are all pretty good but I'd say picolas's soprano's box set FTW
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Post by: OrHowILearnedTo on October 25, 2009, 05:54:38 PM
What are you guys talking about? Paul's dead
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Post by: jtm on October 25, 2009, 10:02:33 PM
i'm dead. and paul killed me.
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Post by: cine on October 26, 2009, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: OrHowILearnedTo on October 25, 2009, 05:54:38 PM
What are you guys talking about? Paul's dead

that's true. i heard he mimicked Little Bill's death. at a children's daycare.
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Post by: MacGuffin on October 30, 2009, 05:03:00 PM
This Halloween, PTA could find no costume scarier than just going as himself.
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Post by: picolas on October 30, 2009, 06:12:21 PM
he does that every year. including the year he went as a pirate. that was an ode to the three month period when he plundered cruise ships and smaller private boats in international waters to finance magnolia.
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Post by: Stefen on October 31, 2009, 12:28:16 AM
PTA called me a faggot.
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Post by: polkablues on October 31, 2009, 01:17:14 AM
If you look at the corner of your screen right now, you'll think for a fleeting moment that you see PTA reading over your shoulder in the reflection on the monitor.  When you turn around to look, there will be nobody there.  But the moment you turn back to your computer, he'll donkey-punch you in the back of the head.
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Post by: modage on December 18, 2009, 10:57:51 AM
http://gawker.com/5428998/

There Will Be Blood Wins the Decade

In its day, Paul Thomas Anderson's oil-drilling epic had to take a back seat to the Coen Brother's nihilist No Country For Old Men. But a few years later, this Blood will not be washed out.

The web has come alive with Best Film of the Decade lists. Unlike Best of the Year lists, where the same dozen or so films appear again and again, Best of the Decades are where a list-making critic can really take wings and fly, revealing their inner soul through their choices. Are you a Lost in Translation type or a Memento-ite? The choice says everything, and nothing, about the list makers.

So what we've done is added up all the Best lists we could find online — from the New Yorker to spitefulcritic.com; anywhere where people had made a list. We gave each film a point for every inclusion on every top ten list. Some lists made it a bit difficult, doing say an unordered top 15's, but we've included as much as we can to try and get an accurate count.

Also in the case of multi-film series, such as Lord of the Rings or the Bourne films, some critics placed the entire series on the list, some cast their votes for the individual films.

And when the votes were all in, by a nose, There Will Be Blood stood alone at the top of the decade, its straw in the whole damn cinema's milkshake.
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Post by: Alexandro on December 18, 2009, 06:11:31 PM
Amen.
hard to argue, really.
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Post by: Derek on May 17, 2010, 09:47:14 PM
I just re-read most of this thread (had some time on my hands). It was kind of fun to go back and read the speculation way before the movie was ever released, people first reactions after having seen it, etc....it got me thinking that there hasn't been quite the level of mania for his next movie, though its supposedly only a couple of months from shooting. Maybe there is and I'm wrong or maybe even because there's little official in the way of news? Not really sure, but I wonder if people's interest is waning a little bit?
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Post by: Pubrick on May 18, 2010, 12:21:27 AM
Quote from: Derek on May 17, 2010, 09:47:14 PM
Not really sure, but I wonder if people's interest is waning a little bit?

hardly, there's no other filmmaker that this board goes so batshit crazy over. there's just little to spaz about like you mentioned, that's obviously the case.

read the master thread if you haven't already and notice the similarities with this one. ppl are going nuts over the same things and speculating all over the place but i think for the most part we're all getting older and have exhausted our fanboy giddiness on his previous projects. it doesn't help that the one place we would get the scoops, the ptanderson site, barely posts anything worth discussing anymore. in fact this time around WE were the ones getting the hot scoops, with the script reviewer foreplayjizzer69 joining us to plead his case and eventually scanning exclusive pages from the script.

i'm glad there hasn't been as much bullshit speculation over absolutely nothing, those pages are the most boring and forgettable of this thread. the few times it has taken off in the master thread have been miserable in the extreme. just look at the idiotic discussion over how PTA might have felt about the script leaking, most ppl realised in the end it was an utterly worthless discussion. the ones who were most insistent on continuing the conversation were newbs who weren't around to get their rocks off over CMBB.. a lot of us popped our cherry in that regard over PDL in the old board (at ptanderson.com).

anyway, just wait till the first images show up or anything other than casting and the like. then you'll see what always happens, tho hopefully less of it than normal. if you think we've lost interest just refer to the reaction when The Mater was announced, it was by far the most heartfelt and insane (in a good way) i've ever seen over PTA. for me it's not just fanboy interest in what he's doing, i am genuinely excited to see where the greatest artist of our generation is going to take us next.

what you describe is more like what happens at aintitcool (if that's even a place anymore) or whatever, where 40yr-old virgins crap their pants over the next Eli Roth or QT film, filling hundreds of pages with "i can't wait til he gives us more of the same old shit! woooooooo BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD YEAH FUCKING SMASH HIS FACE WOOOOOOOOO CARVE THAT SHIT IN THERE YEAH Ffffff fuck... i came". seriously, this place has matured for the better.
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Post by: jtm on June 17, 2010, 02:47:34 AM
watching this on fx right now and it's strange watching a pta flick on tv. i've never experienced this before.

i'm into the movie and then, bam! i'm watching a commercial break.

just seems strange.
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Post by: jtm on June 17, 2010, 03:17:32 AM
give me the blood lord, and let me get away!

haha, i love it
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Post by: The Perineum Falcon on June 17, 2010, 06:27:54 AM
Quote from: jtm on June 17, 2010, 02:47:34 AM
watching this on fx right now and it's strange watching a pta flick on tv. i've never experienced this before.
It's too bad you missed Boogie Nights on FX. Now that was interesting.

Wasn't PTA hands-on involved with the editing for tv?
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Post by: modage on July 30, 2010, 10:59:27 PM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftrailers.apple.com%2Ftrailers%2Fparamount_vantage%2Ftherewillbebloodroadshow%2Fimages%2Fposter-xlarge.jpg&hash=ef1776f8b20019ebc0ec1152545f88d42ab616b8)

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/paramount_vantage/therewillbebloodroadshow/
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on July 30, 2010, 11:20:00 PM
That's an amazing poster.
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Post by: jtm on July 31, 2010, 01:28:19 AM
damn straight!

i need that on my wall.
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Post by: bluejaytwist on July 31, 2010, 04:11:23 PM
Quote from: jtm on July 31, 2010, 01:28:19 AM
i need that on my wall.

i am bothering the two people i know involved with this to try to get a few of these to give away on the site. fingers x'd.
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Post by: Pubrick on July 31, 2010, 08:35:05 PM
Quote from: bluejaytwist on July 31, 2010, 04:11:23 PM
to give away on the site.

Here we go again..
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Post by: bluejaytwist on July 31, 2010, 10:40:19 PM
yeah. don't worry. e-mail contest. no max watts.
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Post by: Stefen on July 31, 2010, 11:28:28 PM
Stefen likes this.
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Post by: RegularKarate on August 03, 2010, 05:32:33 PM
They're all pretty good posters (http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/events/rollingroadshow/)
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Post by: tpfkabi on August 04, 2010, 10:01:18 AM
saul bass-y, especially jackie brown.
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Post by: Alexandro on August 04, 2010, 08:04:18 PM
blood is the best. it's better than any other poster associated with that film officially.
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Post by: bluejaytwist on August 04, 2010, 08:39:55 PM
Quote from: Alexandro on August 04, 2010, 08:04:18 PM
blood is the best. it's better than any other poster associated with that film officially.

i wrote that in my original update, falsely assuming that paul provided the images/artwork to them but then took it down cuz i was/am clearly gutless.
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Post by: Pozer on August 04, 2010, 09:10:43 PM
i'm still waiting for this poster

Quote from: Pozer on October 18, 2007, 01:09:13 PM
i was actually hoping for something more like the PDL DVD cover. white bg with a mean sonuvabitch DDL looking straight forward covered in oil with chere mill be blood title below.

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg814.imageshack.us%2Fimg814%2F8202%2Fpubrickimpatientlizard.jpg&hash=0ae520b2ce2c65593103ad2bc5d691c919a83a42)
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Post by: Reinhold on August 16, 2010, 03:19:43 PM
the CMBB poster from the roadshow is now on eBay for around a hundred bucks:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Olly-Moss-There-Blood-Poster-Print-Alamo-d-375-/190431561791?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0#ht_592wt_1139

(and to those of you that i PMed to find this thread- thanks for your help- i remembered that the search function is working properly now)

edit: found another one currently at $40+shipping and bid on it.
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Post by: Tictacbk on August 16, 2010, 05:16:02 PM
Did anyone on here actually go to the screening? A friend of mine went and said it was great.  He was able to purchase the poster at the screening (wish I knew, I would've had him get 2, ...or 10).  He also said they gave away door prizes, one of which was THE bowling pin.
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Post by: bluejaytwist on August 16, 2010, 06:34:04 PM
http://cigsandredvines.blogspot.com/2010/08/twbb-rolling-roadshow-reports.html

here are a few people's mentions of it...
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Post by: MacGuffin on August 20, 2010, 12:44:40 PM
Spotlight on TWBB at Cinematical:

http://www.cinematical.com/2010/08/19/framed-there-will-be-blood/
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Post by: I Love a Magician on August 22, 2010, 12:15:53 AM
man is that article boring
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Post by: modage on October 11, 2010, 07:35:57 AM
Halloween costume ideas...

http://www.thegoldencloset.com/merchant/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=D0157
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Post by: Pas on October 11, 2010, 07:37:09 AM
Prepare to explain that costume.
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Post by: Pubrick on October 11, 2010, 07:53:55 AM
you might get away with it if you carry a bowling pin and a long straw all night.

also i think this is the more iconic image of plainview..

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parabolicarc.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F09%2Fdaniel_plainview.jpg&hash=9f388ca6744e829eadb49d38fc27fc3967c1f6b5)
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Post by: Ravi on October 11, 2010, 10:55:06 AM
Quote from: modage on October 11, 2010, 07:35:57 AM
Halloween costume ideas...

http://www.thegoldencloset.com/merchant/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=D0157

Quote from: Pas on October 11, 2010, 07:37:09 AM
Prepare to explain that costume.

"No, I'm not a hobo!  I'm Daniel Plainview!  From There Will Be Blood!  The milkshake movie!  I paid $6,500 for this???"
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Post by: Fernando on October 11, 2010, 12:06:24 PM
^^  :laughing:


CMBB: The milkshake movie.
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Post by: theyarelegion on December 11, 2010, 10:49:05 AM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmos.totalfilm.com%2Fimages%2Ft%2Ftom-hardy-630-75.jpg&hash=1f9bd483e8ec04e9004eb4fd9c78f54ad2b0db05)

Tom Hardy is Daniel Plainview from There Will Be Blood (http://faceforums.com/reekingofwin/?p=1949).

Hardy – the 31-year-old actor who has so far racked up appearances in Black Hawk Down, Marie Antoinette and Layer Cake – has just completed the knockout role of his ever-blossoming career. He's Bronson, Charles Bronson, in the appropriately named Bronson – a tale of one of the uk's most notorious prisoners. It's one hell of a performance, as fully absorbed as Daniel Day-Lewis, say.
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Post by: Stefen on December 11, 2010, 02:14:55 PM
Aside from Hardy, Mulligan and the guy from Slumdog, I haven't heard of ANY of those 'rising stars.'
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Post by: squints on February 16, 2011, 01:53:58 AM
"A clip from There Will Be Blood presented as only the locations fixated by 11 viewers. Their gaze was recorded using an Eyelink 1000 and visualised as a "peekthrough" heatmap using CARPE"

http://vimeo.com/19677876 (http://vimeo.com/19677876)
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Post by: RegularKarate on February 16, 2011, 10:38:09 AM
Quote from: squints on February 16, 2011, 01:53:58 AM
"A clip from There Will Be Blood presented as only the locations fixated by 11 viewers. Their gaze was recorded using an Eyelink 1000 and visualised as a "peekthrough" heatmap using CARPE"

http://vimeo.com/19677876 (http://vimeo.com/19677876)

Yeah, Cigs and Redvines posted this yesterday.  It's fascinating.  I want to see this done with more movies. 
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Post by: Pubrick on February 16, 2011, 07:27:16 PM
Quote from: squints on February 16, 2011, 01:53:58 AM
"A clip from There Will Be Blood presented as only the locations fixated by 11 viewers. Their gaze was recorded using an Eyelink 1000 and visualised as a "peekthrough" heatmap using CARPE"

http://vimeo.com/19677876 (http://vimeo.com/19677876)

this is more than fascinating.

the use of this technology is potentially tantamount to telepathy. it shows the effectiveness of compositions, sure, and that's amazing in itself -- quick aside, favourite parts are when the audience focuses on small details like fletcher hamilton having a puff of his cig briefly as the camera is actually about to focus on paul (when the conversation amps up at this point) then when paul is explaining on a map the eyes focus on HW and lingers on him after he asks Paul how many sisters he has.. little things like this explain how we create characters out of small bits of dialogue and reactions.. --- but what would really be interesting to see is how one particular person watches a movie. for example how PTA would watch his own movie.. or how he would watch a kubrick movie.

i have no idea how this technology actually works but it's amazing to see it being developed. i never imagined anything like that could exist. of course it's advertising companies who will make the most of it.
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Post by: tpfkabi on February 17, 2011, 10:15:19 AM
That would interesting to see how certain directors watch a film.

I have seen a similar technology when watching a study on human attraction. They posted various photos or videos of the opposite sex and recorded where the subject would look or focus on.
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Post by: Pas on February 17, 2011, 10:27:39 AM
Well, more than fascinating is more than a stretch. Fascinating was a good enough adjective.

It mostly confirms that people look at the talking character.
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Post by: theyarelegion on March 13, 2011, 09:47:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKp3iBA5wPk what does he say at 1:14, fields of mccoy?
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Post by: polkablues on March 13, 2011, 09:56:45 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatfields_and_McCoys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatfields_and_McCoys)
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Post by: theyarelegion on March 13, 2011, 10:45:45 AM
thanks!
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Post by: B.C. Long on April 10, 2011, 01:42:48 PM
Why is Daniel Plainview in a Gone with the Wind poster?
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F28.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_ljg8saXeJq1qeupaio1_500.jpg&hash=82ddb5b79dc63f26ebc46d7cae721bb1bbdbf276)
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Post by: modage on April 26, 2011, 02:38:47 PM
Quote from: Weak2ndAct on April 21, 2005, 03:47:37 AM
Okay.  So here's the deal:

'There Will Be Blood' is not a contemporary-Bush-slamming treatise.  It's set firmly at the turn of the century.  It's not a Magnolia-esque ensemble piece.  It's a Father/Son story, plain and simple (and yes, set in Southern California).  Daniel (a nod in the script to Day-Lewis?) is a down-and-dirty, hard-working prospector.  He struggles and gains some success.  One of his early endeavors kills a partner, which leaves him the responsibilty of taking care of the man's son, H.W.  Cut to a few years later.  Daniel is a respectable oil man, and H.W. is his right hand, illiterate and wise for his age.  Daniel is presented with a choice prospect by a young man, and despite his reservations, pursues it.  

The prospect is the young man's family homestead.  The family is fanatically religious and quite dim.  They sell the rights to drill to Daniel, and at first, things seem okay.  The land is fertile, and success seems eminent.  But troubles arise when the family's devotion to Christ gets in the way (which entails beating children).  The eldest son (who fanices himself a healer) wants to bless the drill bit.  And renovate the church.  Daniel scoffs at this.  And then disaster strikes.  To whom, I will not reveal here, but it propells much of the story.

For 130 pages, it's a great script.  Compelling and page-turning, there are graphic descriptions of how oil-drilling works and what happens when it goes awry (read: graphic deaths).  It reads like any PTA script, save for any curses or debauchery ('cept for one moment, where Daniel's sex life is brought up).  Everything is great... until the last 20 pages.  We jump 15 years ahead... and it all fallls to shit.  The narrative momentum has been derailed.  The punch is not there.  And with some bad casting, some scenes at end could turn out down right laughable (here's a hint: Stacy Edwards in 'In the Comapny of Men,' that's a fine line).  

Honestly, as is, I do not see this movie getting made anytime soon.  It's too big, too sprawling, and too depressing (not to mention the outright contempt that's displayed towards organized religion).  There is no humor here.  It's a straight-up, hard-core drama about the need for family connections, yet a contempt for humanity (my favorite scene has Daniel explaining how he hates, well, everyone).  

P.S. The title has to do with baptisms.

P.P.S.  I'm wondering at this point if this script has anything to do with Sinclair's 'Oil!'  I have not read the book, but from what I've gathered, apart from the time period and the drilling stuff, it's quite a different story (and btw, the script makes no mention of any adaptation).

We just missed the SIX YEAR ANNIVERSARY of this post.  Isn't that crazy?  Fascinating to read now this first script review ever.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 26, 2011, 05:09:37 PM
This is my favorite part:

We jump 15 years ahead... and it all fallls to shit.  The narrative momentum has been derailed.  The punch is not there.  And with some bad casting, some scenes at end could turn out down right laughable

Maybe he was referencing the milkshake dialogue.
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Post by: Stefen on April 26, 2011, 06:31:44 PM
Weak2ndAct was a top 5 poster here. Wish he would come back.

He's probably dead. His kind doesn't live long.

R.I.P.
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Post by: cronopio 2 on April 26, 2011, 11:27:40 PM
Amen. i miss him, too. and i don't know if hacksparrow also died or changed his name but i miss him too. decent fella.
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Post by: Brando on April 04, 2012, 12:15:38 PM
http://blogs.indiewire.com/pressplay/video-essay-2001-the-dawn-of-blood (http://blogs.indiewire.com/pressplay/video-essay-2001-the-dawn-of-blood)

Surprised someone hasn't done this already.
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Post by: Pubrick on April 04, 2012, 01:10:20 PM
This was all pointed out four years ago when the movie was released.

It was obvious.
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Post by: BB on April 04, 2012, 06:00:23 PM
Without addressing why the influence might matter or what relevance it bears, that was just an empty exercise. And, yeah, about four years too late.

A bunch of the selected shots don't even match up in any significant way but are presented with this profound air. Plainview wet with oil facing the camera, the ape in the cave facing the camera. They're both close-ups. Whooptydoo. 
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 04, 2012, 06:23:31 PM
Something like that could have been unconscious, but I also don't see the literal connections, even when they're presented side-by-side in a video.
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Post by: Ravi on May 30, 2012, 04:51:35 PM
http://badassdigest.com/2012/05/30/this-is-a-horrible-there-will-be-blood-tattoo/

This Is A Horrible THERE WILL BE BLOOD Tattoo

Sometimes great movies make for bad tattoos.

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Everything about this tattoo is wrong. The likeness of Daniel Day Lewis is just off enough to make him look like he has brain swelling or something. The quote is a strange, nihilistic one to commemorate on your body. The font is ludicrous.

This is where we open the floor to good tattoos from There Will Be Blood. Do they exist?
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 30, 2012, 05:59:40 PM
Also missing the apostrophe on "I'm"...
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Post by: Reel on June 09, 2012, 07:09:43 AM
Quote from: Ravi on May 30, 2012, 04:51:35 PM
This is where we open the floor to good tattoos from There Will Be Blood. Do they exist?

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Post by: Neil on June 11, 2012, 06:07:01 PM
Calves: the only logical place for a Daniel Plainview Tattoo
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Post by: Pozer on June 11, 2012, 08:57:27 PM
and forearms.

aaaaaaaaand, he regrets another post.
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Post by: Neil on June 11, 2012, 11:28:05 PM
Nice. I am so dumb.  It was like a cloud.  The moment you said that I saw it as a forearm.


Fail.
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Post by: Reel on July 06, 2012, 04:57:23 PM
this was pretty fuckin well done. Made me laugh. If it's old and you've already seen it, be sure to scold me.

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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on July 06, 2012, 06:11:25 PM
I didn't find it funny (then again I never find weed humor funny), but that is some incredible impression work... probably the best Plainview I've seen.
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Post by: matt35mm on July 06, 2012, 06:50:18 PM
At least they got the compositions and the body movements and voices down. People don't usually give a fuck about that. I'll agree that I didn't find it funny, but it's still kinda impressive, for a fake trailer.
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Post by: Pubrick on July 06, 2012, 08:54:22 PM
That was actually funny and I don't think his Plainview is very good at all.

Everything else was perfect, they didn't just capture the compositions, they really put some thought into how it would tie in with their parody. Little things like the bowling on tv are a nice touch. It's more than a parody, it's probably the best homage I've seen.

Thanks for the hookup reelist, could have gone unseen forever.. been up 4 years apparently with hardly any views.
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Post by: AntiDumbFrogQuestion on July 07, 2012, 11:24:13 PM
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Post by: Reel on July 08, 2012, 04:11:02 AM
Three Amigos

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I just Stefen'd 3 of y'all in a row.
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Post by: ©brad on July 08, 2012, 09:55:59 AM
AVClub traveled down to Marfa Texas to see "The ranch that gave There Will Be Blood its epic sweep." (http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-ranch-that-gave-there-will-be-blood-its-epic-s,82099/)
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Post by: tpfkabi on July 08, 2012, 02:22:21 PM
Quote from: ©brad on July 08, 2012, 09:55:59 AM
AVClub traveled down to Marfa Texas to see "The ranch that gave There Will Be Blood its epic sweep." (http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-ranch-that-gave-there-will-be-blood-its-epic-s,82099/)

That's sad that they had to tear part of it down or have to pay taxes on it.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on July 08, 2012, 05:07:15 PM
I loved the anecdote about PTA eagerly hopping out of the truck and opening the gates himself.
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Post by: Kellen on September 20, 2012, 01:10:17 PM
VOTD: Paul Thomas Anderson and the symmetry of 'TWBB' (http://www.slashfilm.com/votd-paul-thomas-anderson-and-the-symmetry-of-there-will-be-blood/)
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Post by: Reel on September 26, 2012, 08:56:53 AM
This fuckin' rocks:


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ugly, unnecessary text, though.



This one is even better than the other smoking tattoo ( awesome detail )

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This is an abomination and even worse than the other 'I'm finished' tattoo


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People love this movie.
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Post by: Pubrick on September 26, 2012, 09:50:28 AM
^ haha the middle guy seems to have hypnotoad next to old man plainview. we need to befriend this guy!
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Post by: Ravi on December 17, 2012, 06:49:35 AM
This was released in October:

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Post by: ono on January 30, 2013, 05:21:27 PM
A great breakdown of CMBB. (http://www.reddit.com/r/TrueFilm/comments/17it9r/ok_rtruefilm_i_noticed_that_there_will_be_blood/c866zo1)  Who is this "Vocalities?"  I tend to have the same opinion about the film.  It is one of the most perfect films I have ever seen as far as sheer filmmaking power goes, even if it leaves you cold emotionally in some ways.  (The Kubrick comparisons continue to mount.)  Anyway, it's a great read.

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Post by: Frederico Fellini on January 30, 2013, 06:01:50 PM
Wow, that was an amazing read, even though I already knew/was aware of most of it. I gotta say I've seen TWBB probably about 20-30 times and I never noticed this:


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"Daniel's footprints made with oil. It's apart of him now and it always goes with him."


It's crazy how I never noticed that. It's just another one of those little neat things that PTA does. Fuck, this movie just keeps on giving, no matter how many times you see it. I haven't seen TWBB in more than a year, maybe it's time to revisit it.
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Post by: Cloudy on April 30, 2013, 03:38:38 AM


Greenwood infuses some of his TWBB score (or just his solo stuff from the same Penderecki style) with Thom Yorke and Doom.
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Post by: ono on September 04, 2013, 09:52:05 PM
So this is on Netflix Instant Streaming now.  That is all.
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Post by: Punch on April 07, 2014, 10:52:21 AM
http://youtu.be/MmBORic9h34?t=5m18s

someone found the song used in the theatrical trailer (@ 5:17) idk if any has posted this before if they have i'll delete it
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Post by: wilder on April 07, 2014, 10:58:16 AM
Oh man. Thank you -- I must have spent 3 months looking for this on and off after that came out and always ended up with my hands empty.
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Post by: MacGuffin on April 29, 2014, 08:21:05 AM
Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood Scoring There Will Be Blood Live For the First Time

Back in 2008, Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood provided the score for the Paul Thomas Anderson film There Will Be Blood. On August 6 and 7 in London, as part of the Roundhouse Summer Sessions, Greenwood and the London Contemporary Orchestra will score the film live.

Greenwood will play the ondes Martenot part during the screening with an orchestra of over 50 musicians. The piece will be conducted by Hugh Brunt.
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Post by: Just Withnail on April 29, 2014, 01:40:06 PM
If you do I will see you there! Just booked my tickets now. A little ridiculous to travel from Berlin to London for this, but yeah, fuck it.
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Post by: Cloudy on May 06, 2014, 12:06:39 PM
Looks like I gotta get me a ticket to nyc...
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http://wordlessmusic.org/there-will-be-blood-september-19-20-2014/
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Post by: wilder on May 10, 2014, 08:04:37 PM
Didn't know where to put this but it's a bunch of thoughts that need to get out of my head.

I've always thought that the publicity campaign for TWBB was astonishing. Here was a movie that most audiences would generally have no interest in, and yet the ad rollout they concocted was basically the product of a mad genius. People were discussing it EVERYWHERE, echoing praises about Daniel Day's "towering performance", calling it a "horror film" (who the fuck would do that on their own accord absent PT's nudging?), describing it as an "epic" (what? I mean I guess but I don't think that would be the go-to word if it weren't thrown out into the wild first), "Not since Citizen Kane..." etc. It was like "What the—? Who—who are you? I know deep down you don't actually give a shit about this.." But it got into people's heads that way. Was being discussed in the same breath as genuinely mainstream studio movies...random moviegoers echoing the talking points from PT's interviews "That SCORE!" and going on about how "the first 20 minutes are completely silent." — also an exaggeration. Isn't it like nine? To this day that whole whirlwind was the single most successful marking trick I can remember. For a movie about a man who enjoys working with his hands but finds himself having to be a salesman by necessity, and becoming insanely successful at it, life imitated art absurdly closely. Too bad lightning didn't strike twice with The Master, but really, how could it? The first time was completely crazy.
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Post by: Just Withnail on July 29, 2014, 06:47:14 AM
Oh my, I just had a dream. What if...what if they sneak premiere Inherent Vice music at these performances? Maybe even the trailer? WHAT IF??
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Post by: Cloudy on July 29, 2014, 08:05:33 PM
Speaking of new greenwood:
Couple friends and I gonna be at the NY show (anyone else going??), but I don't think any IV stuff's gonna come out JW, it might sort of overshadow the rest of the film if they do, you know... no one ever knows with PT though...
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Post by: quigliest on August 05, 2014, 08:15:24 AM
If anyone in London is looking for tickets to Thursdays TWBB live performance with Jonny Greenwood  I'm selling 2x tickets. I bought them in a frenzy of excitement but can't make it over from Ireland for the show.

They're in a very good spot.
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Post by: Just Withnail on August 05, 2014, 12:23:44 PM
And we could hang out afterwards!
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Post by: MacGuffin on August 08, 2014, 08:40:00 AM
https://storify.com/lcorchestra/there-will-be-blood-live





There Will Be Blood, Jonny Greenwood and the London Contemporary Orchestra, Camden Roundhouse, gig review
By ROB HASTINGS; The Independent


Rife with dirt and oil and dust, the first 15 minutes of There Will Be Blood famously contain no dialogue whatsoever.

But it's still a movie full of sound from the very beginning: the slamming of pickaxes, the bang of explosives, the wails of a baby. Watching this very noisy film being given the silent movie treatment thanks to a live orchestra accompaniment is therefore, if nothing else, a unique experience.

Yet while inspirations can be unique, so can gimmicks. Watching Paul Thomas Anderson's masterpiece soundtracked by 50 musicians sitting below a big screen erected in the middle of Camden's Roundhouse for its Summer Sessions, with the conductor watching the film on a small monitor while simultaneously directing his musicians, while the score's own composer is sitting in the middle of them all to play an ondes martenot, sounds fantastic.

But then I begin to wonder: what will a live orchestra add without becoming a distraction? Especially when Jonny Greenwood's composition - by turns stark and ominous, loud and intimidating, quiet and mysterious - sounds great anyway when played on a decent cinema soundsystem?

The answer isn't clear immediately as I struggle to focus or relax my attention, unsure whether to watch the talented violinists down below or the great movie up above. If you're a fan of movie - which, with full disclosure, I think is among the very best ever made - then at times it's easy to get so drawn into some scenes that the orchestra are forgotten.

But then the realisation hits back as the conductor's baton catches the eye: Jonny Greenwood is down there! There's no point sitting here if you're not going to watch Jonny and his orchestra! As an alienation effect capable of continually reminding the audience they're watching a piece of fictional drama and stop them getting too involved with the characters, perhaps Bertolt Brecht should have just sat orchestras in front of movie screens more often.

After the opening scenes, however, the mind settles into this unusual cultural experience. The movie and the orchestra are not competing. They are complementing. The mere presence of the musicians adds another level of thrill when the oil rig goes up in flames, as their drums tick and rattle in unsettling beats.

The subtle differences in acoustics lead individual instruments to stand out differently - especially the breaths of high-pitched ghostly murmurs and tinkles - making the whole film seem fresh again. And then there's the sheer quality of the sound.

How could I ever cynically have wondered whether a live orchestra would sound noticeably much different to the soundtrack being played on some speakers? It's magnificent.

Sparse and at times just plain peculiar - but in a brilliantly original way - Greenwood's soundtrack might not fill big commercial concert halls like the works of John Barry, Ennio Morricone or John Williams.

But when it breaks out into ironic grandiosity for the closing credits after Daniel Day Lewis's cry of "I'm finished", the Radiohead guitarist sits staring into space as the crowd applaud and the music goes on around him, his hand on his chin, well entitled to contemplate whether this score is his finest achievement.
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Post by: 03 on August 08, 2014, 09:05:20 AM
wow that is nuts. the pictures as much as the video. wonder how much those handbills are gonna go for on the ebays
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Post by: Just Withnail on August 11, 2014, 04:13:15 AM
I was there and it was pretty fantastic. It was my first viewing of TWBB in a while where I was completely immersed again, and the first big screen viewing since it was released. Like the reviewer above, I was pretty nervous going in, wondering how the hell this was going to work, and I was prepared to concentrate only on the music, but rediscovering the film ended up being the real highlight to me. The live aspect, to me, worked best to forefront and make new the music "in" the film, rather than be a live performance to be watched in itself. I guess I couldn't tear myself from the film, and just rather used the oddness of the orchestra being in the room to rediscover the music as it is in the film. Of course my eyes wandered down to watch the performers (we were at the closest table to the stage), but that was actually the exception. It was a strange and stunning experience.
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Post by: modage on September 20, 2014, 11:40:01 PM
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Yeah, this was amazing. Pretty much once-in-a-lifetime (or maybe a half dozen times since they've performed it a few by now) cinematic experience. Not sure I've seen the movie in 4 years or so either and holy shit, does it hold up. As I said on Twitter, THERE WILL BE BLOOD: Still the best movie since THERE WILL BE BLOOD.

I'll always have a soft 'n sentimental spot for Maggie & Boogie but this is probably his best movie, right? I guess everyone agrees on that now. Thing I never really noticed until you see it with an orchestra waiting silently is how little music is actually in this movie. It's so striking whenever it does appear that it really stands out but there are long passages of dialogue with no score and yet the movie still just flies by.

As for the experience, I was able to settle into the movie pretty quickly and just watch (the aforementioned long stretches of no music in the beginning help with that) and the mix between the dialogue/sfx and live music sounded great. If you hadn't seen the orchestra, I'm not sure you would've been able to tell it wasn't just coming from the soundtrack. There was no 'live' weirdness. PTA was likely there (he was the night before) but prob skulking around the back not wanting to be seen (and I didn't see him). It must be a thrill to see something like this come together though.

The venue is beautiful and I can't think of too many cinematic experiences to top this one.

Maybe in a couple years, Tarantino will get an orchestra to play all the bits of music he lifts from other soundtracks live or something? Can't imagine that he's not jealous of something like this.

A few more pics (http://modage.tumblr.com/post/98026162181/there-will-be-blood-jonny-greenwood-the).
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Post by: Gittes on October 15, 2014, 08:06:33 PM
Does anyone here recall reading about Austin Lynch having shot a behind the scenes documentary during the production of TWBB? I guess it is unlikely to surface now, unless the film is released as part of the Criterion Collection.
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Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on November 07, 2014, 10:24:11 PM
I WAS THERE TOO

Welcome to the first episode of I Was There Too with Matt Gourley. The show where Matt will talk to people who were present in the great scenes of cinema history. Mayor of podcasts Paul F. Tompkins joins Matt to discuss his role as Mr. Prescott in the film There Will Be Blood. Paul tells us how he got to know Paul Thomas Anderson through the Largo comedy scene and about the strange noises Daniel Day-Lewis makes in between takes. Plus, Matt talks about the people who were originally cast in There Will Be Blood in a segment called I Wasn't There Too.

http://iwastheretoo.wolfpop.com/audio/playlists/3962  (http://iwastheretoo.wolfpop.com/audio/playlists/3962)

It's like they made this just for us.
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Post by: 03 on November 07, 2014, 11:07:51 PM
 :bravo: :bravo: :bravo:
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Post by: polkablues on November 08, 2014, 01:14:48 AM
Quote from: Amnesiac on October 15, 2014, 08:06:33 PM
Does anyone here recall reading about Austin Lynch having shot a behind the scenes documentary during the production of TWBB? I guess it is unlikely to surface now, unless the film is released as part of the Criterion Collection.

Last thing I remember reading about this alluded to Paul having scrapped it because he didn't think the production was particularly interesting.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 19, 2015, 05:52:48 PM
On this week's Slate Culture Gabfest, they discuss choosing the perfect title, and titles that changed before a thing was released. Their guest brings up There Will Be Blood as an interesting title that she feels uneasy about:

https://soundcloud.com/panoply/americas-one-night-stand-with-robin-thicke-edition/s-Nju4v#t=39m02s

(at 39 min)
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Post by: Alexandro on March 19, 2015, 08:34:50 PM
easily one of the best movie titles of all time.
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Post by: ono on July 26, 2015, 07:04:46 PM
Greenwood rehearsal for CMBB.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ_YcOMUI10

Someone already posted it, you say?  Meh.  Watch it again!
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Post by: Robyn on November 19, 2015, 08:34:21 AM
this is... something.

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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 19, 2015, 10:58:32 AM
Apparently the same guy made this video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t-iFr9q1I8
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Post by: Just Withnail on March 28, 2016, 06:08:56 AM
Has anybody seen Roeg's Eureka?

It seems like it has more than a few similarities to TWBB. Like a good Roeg it looks baroque and intense.

DVDBeaver blu-ray review (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film5/blu-ray_reviews_71/eureka_blu-ray.htm)




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Post by: jenkins on March 28, 2016, 01:25:27 PM
nice
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Post by: Just Withnail on February 06, 2017, 03:30:30 AM
Seems like there's a bunch of new There Will Be Blood w/live score events happing this spring in England.

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Post by: modage on December 08, 2017, 11:49:18 AM
Fascinating fill in the gaps of history. Only wish it went deeper

http://www.vulture.com/2017/12/why-kel-oneill-really-left-there-will-be-blood.html
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Post by: Just Withnail on December 08, 2017, 02:06:34 PM
Ah! Now I have even more questions. That just really highlights how little we know about the production of PTA's films, especially PDL onwards. It'll be interesting to feel them slowly be illuminated over time, when the books start getting written.
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Post by: wilberfan on December 08, 2017, 02:10:34 PM
Quote from: modage on December 08, 2017, 11:49:18 AM
Fascinating fill in the gaps of history. Only wish it went deeper

http://www.vulture.com/2017/12/why-kel-oneill-really-left-there-will-be-blood.html

I agree. The kid sounds like he's got a really good head on his shoulders.  Sounds like he's much better off away from the Hollywood big time.
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Post by: polkablues on December 08, 2017, 04:57:09 PM
My main takeaway is that I've spent the past decade completely mistaken about who the actor was that got replaced. Thanks to name similarity, I always thought it was this guy: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1218757/?ref_=tt_cl_t8
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Post by: Reel on December 08, 2017, 05:18:05 PM
It seems pretty simple, that he just didn't have the acting chops to go toe to toe with DDL. And probably didn't understand the austere nature of the shoot, how that would ultimately contribute to the palpable atmosphere onscreen. Why it might be necessary to sacrifice some personal comforts in order to complement one of the most legendary performances in film history. He just didn't have what it takes. God bless him
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Post by: Drenk on December 08, 2017, 05:21:49 PM
I don't know if PTA was stupid or if it was a crazy bet that could have created something special. Anyway, it's crazy that they lost two weeks and finished in schedule.
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Post by: modage on December 24, 2017, 05:35:49 AM
https://www.theringer.com/movies/2017/12/22/16809404/there-will-be-blood-paul-thomas-anderson-10-years-daniel-day-lewis
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Post by: Lewton on January 05, 2018, 01:39:39 PM
There Will Be Blood will be shown on TCM on Saturday, February 24th at 12:15AM (ET) (http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/649228/There-Will-Be-Blood/). There are a few other Daniel Day-Lewis movies that are scheduled throughout January and February, too.

Is this going to be the most recent film ever shown on TCM?

Given PTA's fondness for the channel, it would be great if he served as a guest programmer eventually, or at least appeared for a discussion of one or two films.
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Post by: jenkins on January 05, 2018, 02:59:44 PM
Quote from: Lewton on January 05, 2018, 01:39:39 PM
Is this going to be the most recent film ever shown on TCM?

it doesn't at all appear that way.

INTO THE WILD FRIDAY, JANUARY 12 @ 01:30 AM (ET) only on TCM (http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/647299/Into-the-Wild/)

i'm just a dream killer
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Post by: Lewton on January 05, 2018, 03:30:24 PM
Oh. Interesting. I still think this might be a new tendency. I've been following TCM's schedule somewhat consistently for a few years now, but I wasn't able to recall them playing a film that was made after the 90s. 90s films seem pretty rare, though. I was surprised to find out that they showed Apollo 13 a very short while ago.
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Post by: jenkins on January 05, 2018, 04:16:43 PM
yeah Into the Wild is an exception for the month. and its name is TCM so

first i sound combative but i end up on your side.
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Post by: Lewton on January 05, 2018, 05:13:46 PM
By writing "new tendency," I didn't mean to suggest they might turn their back on classic films. I meant occasionally showing films from the post-2000 years, much like they've done for the 90s, and with a little bit more frequency, the 80s. Although, for all I know, this has happened before. Anyway...
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Post by: jenkins on January 05, 2018, 05:18:39 PM
we're same page
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Post by: Lewton on May 15, 2018, 01:54:26 PM
I watched "Metalhead," a Black Mirror episode, for the first time the other day. At times, it seems like they just straight-up sampled Greenwood's "Henry Plainview" track. Listen to the final confrontation near the end of the episode, for example.
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Post by: jviness02 on May 16, 2018, 08:54:53 PM
Believe it or not, this is the SECOND time it's played on TCM. It played on TCM at like 3:00 AM in 2013ish during the 31 Days of Oscar. I remember because I watched it to see if there was any kind of introduction or closing  comments. There weren't.
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Post by: Lewton on May 16, 2018, 09:30:24 PM
Thanks for sharing. I watched it this time and there were comments. Ben Mankiewicz introduced it and provided closing remarks afterwards. I'm having trouble remembering what he said, though -- partly boilerplate stuff, I think. I believe he talked about how DDL enjoyed PDL and how that led to his collaboration with PTA. I have it recorded, so I can take another look later on and come back with more detail.
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Post by: wilberfan on May 19, 2018, 12:23:39 AM
Part 2 of 2, with some nice behind-the-scenes stuff to savor...


https://youtu.be/A5AMJWr2aXQ
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Post by: Drenk on January 20, 2019, 08:36:24 AM
New tracks from the OST:

https://pitchfork.com/news/listen-to-jonny-greenwoods-there-will-be-blood-outtakes/
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Post by: wilberfan on March 01, 2019, 07:19:10 PM
Tyler is back with a TWBB essay.   





I really admire this kids stuff.  His multi-part "2001" series was awesome.
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Post by: Alethia on March 02, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
That was great!
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Post by: d on April 11, 2019, 04:39:28 AM
Here is the second part:

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Post by: Alethia on September 13, 2019, 08:55:05 AM
'An account of how insane we once were' – Paul Thomas Anderson on There Will Be Blood
The director explains why he won't quibble with his film being named best of the century – but what makes it really great is Daniel Day-Lewis

Do you think it's the best film of the century so far?
Who am I to argue? I'll take it. It's bragging rights for sure and I don't take it lightly. But, of course, I could rattle off a long list of great films from this century ... that isn't hard to do.

Is there a competition in you to care about such things?
I suppose if it was second-best film of the century my first question would have been, "What's No 1?" It's very possible by the end of this year it could slip off the list entirely.

Is it the same film you would make today? Do you rewatch it?
I haven't seen it in a number of years, but last I saw it I was very proud and satisfied. It was the first time I'd seen it where I had forgotten exactly what was going to happen next – and that was a wonderful experience. Having made something, it's very hard to get back to that sense of discovery. Everything really seems to fit together about it – the performances, the music, the landscape and the story, all the strands within the larger film, especially the theme of father and son – all work in unison. It's also very robust, which I like. I know, as I think we all do, that what makes it really great is Daniel Day-Lewis.

Which moment or line makes you laugh most?
Everything Daniel does makes me giggle with pleasure and joy. His inventiveness, his devilishness, the joy he has in making such a maniacal portrait of a man unhinged. He has a great chemistry with Paul Dano.


Do you place more faith in capitalism or religion?
Well ... I'm kind of equal opportunity confused and rooting for the best sides of both.

Do you get sick of the milkshake memes?
Nah. Too much is never enough.

Do you think the film feels like a yet more urgent prophecy today? Of bleeding the Earth dry, of allowing greed to triumph over human relations?
Unfortunately, this story doesn't seem to be going out of style any time soon. It would be nice to see it as science fiction one day. Or an account of how truly insane we all once were.

Donald Trump recently declined to quote any Bible verse he likes. Are there any the film refers to you think may speak to him specifically? Might The Art of the Deal make for an alternative title to There Will Be Blood?
I like all the quotes in the Bible, Old and New Testament, and y'know, it's very private, I'm not gonna get into it ... [WEARY FACE EMOJI] I can't quote the Bible from off the top of my head, I have to go rummage around like everyone else. Or, as Plainview says: "I like all religions. I like them all. I don't belong to one church in particular."

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/sep/13/how-insane-we-once-were-paul-thomas-anderson-there-will-be-blood (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/sep/13/how-insane-we-once-were-paul-thomas-anderson-there-will-be-blood)
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Post by: Tdog on September 13, 2019, 09:46:35 AM
Quote from: eward on September 13, 2019, 08:55:05 AM
'An account of how insane we once were' – Paul Thomas Anderson on There Will Be Blood
The director explains why he won't quibble with his film being named best of the century – but what makes it really great is Daniel Day-Lewis

Do you think it's the best film of the century so far?
Who am I to argue? I'll take it. It's bragging rights for sure and I don't take it lightly. But, of course, I could rattle off a long list of great films from this century ... that isn't hard to do.

Is there a competition in you to care about such things?
I suppose if it was second-best film of the century my first question would have been, "What's No 1?" It's very possible by the end of this year it could slip off the list entirely.

Is it the same film you would make today? Do you rewatch it?
I haven't seen it in a number of years, but last I saw it I was very proud and satisfied. It was the first time I'd seen it where I had forgotten exactly what was going to happen next – and that was a wonderful experience. Having made something, it's very hard to get back to that sense of discovery. Everything really seems to fit together about it – the performances, the music, the landscape and the story, all the strands within the larger film, especially the theme of father and son – all work in unison. It's also very robust, which I like. I know, as I think we all do, that what makes it really great is Daniel Day-Lewis.

Which moment or line makes you laugh most?
Everything Daniel does makes me giggle with pleasure and joy. His inventiveness, his devilishness, the joy he has in making such a maniacal portrait of a man unhinged. He has a great chemistry with Paul Dano.


Do you place more faith in capitalism or religion?
Well ... I'm kind of equal opportunity confused and rooting for the best sides of both.

Do you get sick of the milkshake memes?
Nah. Too much is never enough.

Do you think the film feels like a yet more urgent prophecy today? Of bleeding the Earth dry, of allowing greed to triumph over human relations?
Unfortunately, this story doesn't seem to be going out of style any time soon. It would be nice to see it as science fiction one day. Or an account of how truly insane we all once were.

Donald Trump recently declined to quote any Bible verse he likes. Are there any the film refers to you think may speak to him specifically? Might The Art of the Deal make for an alternative title to There Will Be Blood?
I like all the quotes in the Bible, Old and New Testament, and y'know, it's very private, I'm not gonna get into it ... [WEARY FACE EMOJI] I can't quote the Bible from off the top of my head, I have to go rummage around like everyone else. Or, as Plainview says: "I like all religions. I like them all. I don't belong to one church in particular."

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/sep/13/how-insane-we-once-were-paul-thomas-anderson-there-will-be-blood (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/sep/13/how-insane-we-once-were-paul-thomas-anderson-there-will-be-blood)

It was good up until the Trump question.
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Post by: trytotell on September 13, 2019, 10:51:44 AM
Great sidestepping, though. Why not ask how his next project is coming along? Same with that Anima Variety interview. I know he wouldn't give much away but still.
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Post by: kingfan011 on September 13, 2019, 03:16:50 PM
I love it when an interviewer asks Paul a question that he doesn't really want to answer. Watching him deflect is pretty amusing.
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Post by: Alethia on September 13, 2019, 04:37:11 PM
CMBB as the best film of the 21st century has such a ring of obviousness to it though... I mean, I wouldn't even rank it as PTA's best from this century (probably third or maybe even fourth if we're being honest).
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Post by: Lewton on September 13, 2019, 07:20:45 PM
I like how he shouted out that deleted scene in his last answer.

I always liked Day-Lewis' delivery of that line. I remember wondering a long time ago why it was left out of the film...I suppose it doesn't tell us anything new about the characters, but that's not necessarily a reason to delete a scene.
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Post by: Alethia on September 13, 2019, 08:47:19 PM
Which deleted scene are you referring to? That line is in the final film.
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Post by: Lewton on September 13, 2019, 09:46:50 PM
Sorry about that. I mixed the two things up somehow.

For some reason I read it and immediately flashed back to that deleted campfire scene where it's Plainview, H.W., Eli and Abel. Where Plainview says, "Our church? Our church is called the Church of the World." (Just rewatched it now)
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Post by: Alethia on September 14, 2019, 11:26:19 AM
Ah yes. That scene is in one of the trailers, I believe. Seems this didn't have quite the mountain of scrapped material as Master or Vice.
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Post by: Scrooby on November 10, 2019, 11:11:46 AM
Make Me a Star (1932).
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Post by: Lewton on January 16, 2020, 03:12:46 PM
I recently watched The Last Jedi for the first time. It feels kind of weird doing this for a Star Wars movie but I saw it late myself so, yeah, spoilers for the beginning of the movie ahead.

Before Rose's sister sacrifices herself, there's this shot of her falling from a ladder that reminded me of Plainview falling from the ladder at the beginning of TWBB. Just like Rose's sister, he falls toward the camera. (It's a more extended thing in The Last Jedi, so the style of the shots aren't identical or anything)

Anyway, I know this seems like the inevitable way to frame that action...but I also think Rian Johnson borrowed it from PTA? Also, I'm just curious if anyone here knows of any other movies that feature this type of shot (before or after TWBB).
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 16, 2020, 05:12:44 PM
You're totally right. That never occurred to me.

I bet there are shots like that in Lost, with the number of hatches and ladders involved.
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Post by: wilberfan on February 03, 2020, 10:42:55 PM
A bit obvious, perhaps, but interesting nonetheless.   I've always loved how fight scenes in PTA films feel so authentic and non-choreographed.  (I guess I'm thinking specifically of TWBB and The Master.)

https://youtu.be/rvPj65RKYf4
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Post by: Drill on June 24, 2021, 11:20:53 AM
https://gov.texas.gov/uploads/files/film/TFC50_Archive_2000s_There_Will_Be_Blood_packet.pdf

https://twitter.com/TexasFilmComm/status/1408096387275821059
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Post by: wilberfan on November 05, 2021, 01:56:43 AM
Guess I'll put this here...

Some original content from over at r/pta, by u/TheWizardofOC

Household Names: ETA on PTA - How There Will Be Blood hurt Paul Thomas Anderson's chance at mainstream notoriety.

TL;DR - Paul Thomas Anderson had a shot to be a real mainstream writer-director with a distinct style (like Fellini and others) but since he took a detour with There Will Be Blood, he turned into one of the invisible masters in his field.

***

When it comes to writer-directors, the fans want a brand. We want to draw association from their name. God knows that our relatives, stuffed from Christmas lunch and about to nod off to the smell of roast chicken, don't want to listen to us talk about 'movie makers' all afternoon, so brevity is key.

When I sit down at the table to talk about Chris Nolan, I talk about scale and action, twists and turns. This is the Nolan brand.

When I talk about Quentin Tarantino, I talk about violence and blood, wit and cultural references. I even talk about feet. This is the Tarantino brand.

But when I talk about Paul Thomas Anderson... that's when the table wonders off to watch TV or even wash the dishes and take out the trash (Please, take me with you!).

There's no short and sweet when it comes to Anderson. When I talk about his films, I come to dead-ends that contradict themselves. I track back on claims, and bounce around his career to demonstrate how The Master (2012) is one of his best, but it could not be less alike with his earlier work like Boogie Nights (1997) or Magnolia (1999). It's hard to talk about Phantom Thread (2017) and Licorice Pizza (2022) in the same sentence. I'd sooner talk about Punch Drunk Love (2002) in reference to Licorice Pizza, but there is two decades between them. Oh, what an ordeal!

This is all because Anderson lives outside the limits of his own trends.

It would be easier to recommend someone like Andrei Tarkovsky, because at least I can vomit buzzwords about his craft (Russian! Purist! Existentialist!). But it seems that buzzwords don't cut it for Anderson, and There Will be Blood (2007) could be the reason for that.

***

One of the forefathers of the writer-director brand was the acclaimed and celebrated Federico Fellini. Known as Il Maestro, he had a whole new word to describe his surreal sensibilities: Fellini-esque.

FELLINI-ESQUE:

Adjective: fantastic, bizarre, lavish, and extravagant.

However, those familiar with Fellini would notice that his breakout film, I'vitelloni (1953), a neo-realistic look at Italian adolescence, isn't very Fellini-esque. La Strada (1954) is kind of Fellini-esque. And Nights of Cabiria (1957) is Fellini-ish. But the distinction comes, not in the creation of his lavish and bizarre 8 1/2 (1963), but in the wake of his decision to double down on those sensibilities for the back-half of his career.

Fellini's brand didn't come from one film, but from his consistent and linear march toward that of the fantastical in his art.

His detractors have since labelled his later work as worn-out and dated, but without all that which followed 8 1/2, he would never have been associated with a brand as ironclad as that of author Franz Kafka (and his Kafka-esque stories).

Talking about Paul Thomas Anderson in such distinctions feels like a box he is too big to fit in. But is his lack of a brand the reason he isn't a household name? Is there a world where something is Anderson-esque without being... quirky and symmetrical.

What if after 8 1/2, Fellini turned his attention away from the dream-like and lucid to test his hand somewhere else? Hell, he could have even ran the market on Italian mob movies before The Godfather (1972) and Mean Streets (1973) (which Scorsese claims is inspired by Fellini's I'vitelloni). But what would have come of Fellini-esque? Without his later work, which crescendo'ed in 1973 with Amarcord, the term wouldn't hold much water. Whether or not his career would have benefited from it, his brand would have suffered in its inversions and oddities, in its inconsistencies. Just like we see with Paul Thomas Anderson.

In fact, Anderson even had a streak not dissimilar to that of Fellini in his earlier work. Hard Eight (1996) is grounded in realism and themes of transition like I'vitelloni. Boogie Nights swims in the currents of a sensational hyper-realism like La Strada and Nights of Cabiria. Magnolia traverses the fragments of life like La Dolce Vita (1960). And Punch Drunk Love stretches and shatters one man's view of reality like 8 1/2. Yet there is no Juliet of the Spirits (1965) or Fellini's Satyricon (1969). Anderson's next film isn't an extension of the narrative and aesthetic foundations set in Punch Drunk Love. His next film, There Will Be Blood, made it so there could be no Anderson-esque.

What we have in There Will Be Blood is not a renovation of Anderson's directorial wheelhouse but a full on reinvention. Without doubt, there are shards of his former self and sensibilities. But what was once water is now oil. Anderson shattered the chance of a brand that could be used to surmise his career as a whole. There is no qualifier for what he did between his forth and fifth films. No word can describe the distance - in score, in tone, theme, structure, in all heard and seen. There is no word.

But for Paul Thomas Anderson, there doesn't need to be a word. He will never be known for one thing. He won't be the realist or the surrealist. He won't become one of the Fellini's of the world, but instead one of the Wilder's or Kubrick's. One of the anomalies of the art.

Now, with Licorice Pizza on the horizon, we see Anderson in another (maybe final) battle with his brand. With his run of There Will Be Blood, The Master, Inherent Vice (2014), and Phantom Thread, we had almost ascended to a vision of Anderson as an elitist in his field. Between his consistent collaborations with a Daniel Day-Lewis, Joaquin Phoenix and Johnny Greenwood, to his decision to take on two of the worlds most convoluted works of fiction (sorry Scientology), it seemed that Anderson had become fit for a new box that would divide his career into two halves. On one side of his career, a man of tenderness and sorrow toward his characters and stories, and in the other half, a man of almost forensic damnation toward his creations.

But no.

As of writing this, Licorice Pizza looks like a honest take on the lives of kids in their late adolescence with two debutants in star roles. Once more, Anderson creates an insurmountable distance between two of his films. Phantom Thread and Licorice Pizza could not be less alike. Just like Punch Drunk Love and There Will Be Blood, Anderson has killed the label before it had time to stick.

But I do wonder, did Anderson miss his second chance at a real brand of filmmaking with this decision? He could have been The Real American Elitist (circa 2007-). But alas, once more, the shoe doesn't fit. Paul Thomas Anderson is not a Cinderella story.

***

The late Federico Fellini lived out his career on a continuum from the real to the bizarre, but Anderson remains off in the distance, free of constraints on his art. Yet, Licorice Pizza feels almost too akin to his earlier work. I fear we will never see Anderson reach the likes of Stanley Kubrick in his ability to channel his talents between stories of such different look and feel and tone with effortless ease. I would like to see Anderson's next film shatter his current trends further, to reveal a new brand as a master of all forms. But, to his credit, and such to his lack of brand, I wouldn't have a damn clue what Paul Thomas Anderson will make next.

Source (https://www.reddit.com/r/paulthomasanderson/comments/qn4v92/household_names_eta_on_pta_how_there_will_be/)
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Post by: Alethia on November 05, 2021, 12:44:27 PM
Part 3 went up this morning.

https://twitter.com/cine_files/status/1448998369221820436
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Post by: wilberfan on November 05, 2021, 01:20:10 PM
Downloaded and ready to gooooo!
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Post by: Alethia on November 05, 2021, 01:21:40 PM
It's a pretty good discussion. Got me eager to revisit it. Probably the PTA I rewatch the least.
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Post by: wilberfan on November 05, 2021, 01:26:05 PM
Quote from: eward on November 05, 2021, 01:21:40 PM
It's a pretty good discussion. Got me eager to revisit it. Probably the PTA I rewatch the least.

The AV Club is also starting a 4-parter look back at PTA's career:

https://www.avclub.com/1997-was-a-big-year-for-paul-thomas-anderson-1848000393
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Post by: wilberfan on November 22, 2021, 08:58:38 PM
H.W. is all growed up.

https://youtu.be/BkEEahJOxaQ
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Post by: ono on January 06, 2022, 01:53:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg0KKbmSLm8
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Post by: jviness02 on January 09, 2022, 01:08:49 AM
There were some fun tidbits in that. It's funny to think of DDL and PTA at a little league baseball game together.
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Post by: Tdog on January 09, 2022, 07:26:48 AM
He seems like a smart, level headed person. Would be really curious to see him act again.
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Post by: jviness02 on January 09, 2022, 11:32:23 AM
Quote from: Tdog on January 09, 2022, 07:26:48 AM
He seems like a smart, level headed person. Would be really curious to see him act again.

As someone who also grew up with country bumpkins as he called it, I totally related when said he doesn't really talk about films much to people because no one really gets it around there.  That perfectly describes how I act with one side of my family lol.
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Post by: wilberfan on February 02, 2022, 09:16:06 AM
Say what now?   :ponder:

https://youtu.be/nlRAPemIMyw
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Post by: HACKANUT on February 27, 2022, 09:22:17 AM
https://youtu.be/MK1gCx6J3kg


@ 6:51, I NEVER noticed the jug has what appears to be frosted lettering on it. I know the water vs vodka debate has been a thing for a while... guess this makes me lean towards vodka  :ponder:
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Post by: wilberfan on July 26, 2022, 09:31:14 AM
The Rewatchables Podcast

https://www.theringer.com/the-rewatchables/2022/7/26/23277960/there-will-be-blood-with-bill-simmons-chris-ryan-and-sean-fennessey
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Post by: wilberfan on October 27, 2022, 12:35:51 AM
New DGA upload of a 2007 "Meet the Nominees"

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Post by: wilberfan on October 09, 2023, 05:57:05 PM
There WIll Be Blood (Scene: Oil & Fire) + Pro Take: Dillon Freasier - "H.W. Plainview (https://podbay.fm/p/scenecraft/e/1693983660)"

Scene Craft Podcast episode
Title: Google Thinks Daniel Plainview is an Actual Human?
Post by: Scrooby on October 13, 2023, 08:03:55 AM
An unsuspecting, world-battered Scrooby innocently entered : "P T Anderson" into "Last 24 Hours" of Google News.

In response, the first grey link to click on is : "Daniel Plainview Net Worth" !