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Martin Scorsese / Re: Goodfellas
« Last post by wilberfan on December 07, 2017, 07:29:49 PM »
Tessa made a flowchart.

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Paul Thomas Anderson / Re: Phantom Thread - Awards ticker
« Last post by jenkins on December 07, 2017, 07:00:08 PM »
K. Austin Collins: 24 Best Movies of 2017

1. Good Time – Ben Safdie and Joshua Safdie
1. [tie] Dawson City: Frozen Time – Bill Morrison
2. The Work – Jairus McLeary and Gethin Aldous
3. Phantom Thread – Paul Thomas Anderson

here's the one fellas-- Ed Gonzalez: Top 30 Movies of 2017

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Since the embargo is up on Phantom Thread, letting this cat out of the bag:
1. Phantom Thread – Paul Thomas Anderson

Emily Yoshida: 10 Best Movies of 2017

1. Your Name – Makoto Shinkai
2. Call Me by Your Name – Luca Guadagnino
3. Get Out – Jordan Peele
4. Lady Bird – Greta Gerwig
5. The Florida Project – Sean Baker
6. Princess Cyd – Stephen Cone
7. Good Time – Ben Safdie and Joshua Safdie
8. Phantom Thread – Paul Thomas Anderson
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Quentin Tarantino / Re: Tarantino Star Trek Film in the Works?
« Last post by jenkins on December 07, 2017, 06:51:45 PM »
Quentin Tarantino’s ‘Star Trek’ Will Be R-Rated: ‘The Revenant’s Mark L. Smith Frontrunner Scribe

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the whole thing is moving at warp speed. Tarantino met for hours in a writers room with Mark L. Smith, Lindsey Beer, and Drew Pearce. They kicked around ideas and one of them will get the job. I’m hearing the frontrunner is Smith, who wrote The Revenant. The film will most certainly go where no Star Trek has gone before: Tarantino has required it to be R rated, and Paramount and Abrams agreed to that condition
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David Lynch / Re: The Official Twin Peaks Thread (TOTPT)
« Last post by jenkins on December 07, 2017, 06:37:21 PM »
i thought that was a really great post, Drenk. only to inflate the complications of this discussion, i will say that last year Bob Dylan won the Nobel and no one feared that music was replacing literature. and in 2013 Alice Munro the short story writer won the Nobel. but i don't think that takes the conversation in a new direction, i just mentioned it.
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The Vault / Re: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
« Last post by Jeremy Blackman on December 07, 2017, 06:21:06 PM »
I just discovered Venus De Milo, the long lost female turtle. Her time with the boys was just as creepy as you might expect. In this clip, she has to deal with Michaelangelo's sexual harassment the whole time she's trying to tell her story.

Interesting how she just sits there, like her namesake, as the guys swarm around her, getting closer and closer as the clip goes on.

None of it makes sense anyway; the turtles are attracted to human women.


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Paul Thomas Anderson / Re: Phantom Thread - Critic's Reviews
« Last post by wilberfan on December 07, 2017, 04:57:12 PM »
You have the rest of your life to look into the critical assessment of a film, you only have one opportunity to approach it apart from all that static. It's a special time right now.

Well said, sir.

Review: Paul Thomas Anderson's 'Phantom Thread' Barely Holds Together

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2017/12/07/review-paul-thomas-andersons-phantom-thread-barely-holds-together/#2941b38376c5

I'm sharing this because of the following lead-in paragraphs (which I found interesting):

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Phantom Thread has the potential to be this year's Silence. By that I mean it's a well-made, unquestionably polished and impeccably acted drama from a beloved auteur that may well be ignored by general audiences. That's not necessarily an insult to general audiences, but this Paul Thomas Anderson picture, starring Daniel Day-Lewis as a 1950's fashion designer and Vicky Krieps as the young woman who becomes his lover and his muse, is the kind of thing that is almost made entirely for film critics and/or film nerds. And that's okay, as long as Focus Features, Annapurna and friends either A) knows what they are getting into or B) has reason to hope for bigger overseas box office for this arguably European melodrama.

The would-be Oscar contender opens in limited release on Christmas Day before presumably expanding in January. Anderson's last two films, Inherent Vice and The Master, were not remotely commercial hits despite more marketable content and better overall reviews. This is arguably a "for the love of the game" release for any studio, so let's not decry the death of cinema when this one doesn't play like the hot date night movie of choice for those who would rather see Molly's Game, The Post or All the Money in the World.

PHANTOM THREAD IS PAUL THOMAS ANDERSON’S TWISTED LOVE STORY ABOUT THE BEAUTY IN UGLINESS (REVIEW)

Another interesting lead paragraph.

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If there’s one reason above all others that I’ve harbored an affinity for Paul Thomas Anderson’s filmmaking, it’s his penchant to find worth in the worthless. Inherent Vice found direction in Doc Sportello’s wild goose chase; The Master found weight in the hollow promises of Lancaster Dodd; There Will Be Blood found humanity in self-professed antihuman Daniel Plainview; Boogie Nights found a home in the sex-, drug-, and self-inflicted-gunshot-wound-laden household of Jack Horner. All the more challenging is that Anderson has, for my money, never seemed to claim that any of his subjects necessarily deserve this designation, instead operating on the grounds that if you’re going to send a violent loner on an ad-hoc trip to Hawaii on an ill-conceived mission to win the heart of a practical stranger, you may as well find the beauty in that. Ugliness and all.

And it's interesting to see some very mixed reviews out there now as well... (I'm essentially only reading intro paragraphs at this point.)
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Paul Thomas Anderson / Re: Phantom Thread - Critic's Reviews
« Last post by Fuzzy Dunlop on December 07, 2017, 04:54:07 PM »
I didn't watch the trailer (I scrolled through just to see a few images), I didn't read any reviews, I tried my best to go in as blind as possible, that's really the only way to do it IMO.

I'm actually kinda nuts about it. When I saw No Country For Old Men in the theatre, I ran out when the CMBB trailer came on. I like my first impression to be of the whole thing, not battling whatever idea of the thing I've built in my head.

Even having seen the film, I've only read a handful of reviews and interviews. I want to see it a few more times to solidify my feelings on it. You have the rest of your life to look into the critical assessment of a film, you only have one opportunity to approach it apart from all that static. It's a special time right now.

Also, this is only tangentially film-related, but lately, I feel as if I'm drowning in a sea of opinions that I'm not even consciously seeking out. Every time I go online, or talk with people, its just this endless, borderline mindless, rattling off of opinions, and I think its become kind of unhealthy. It becomes harder and harder to approach art or politics or even facts themselves when there is such a strong compulsion to see how everyone else feels about shit while I'm still formulating my own feelings. When I like something, why should I give any kind of fuck if someone else doesn't, or why they don't? If I tell someone I liked something, and then they tell me, unprompted, "Oh, I hated that thing", how does that add to my life in any kind of way? I dunno. I'm not suggesting that criticism or discussing opinions are inherently bad things, just that I feel totally overwhelmed right now. I might try a thing where I don't offer an opinion unless asked, and don't actively seek any out unless I really, consciously feel like it will enrich my life in some way. At the moment its just a bunch of fucking noise.
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Paul Thomas Anderson / Re: Phantom Thread - Critic's Reviews
« Last post by Sleepless on December 07, 2017, 04:48:27 PM »
I think I'm going to avoid reviews. I've read some headlines and it all sounds positive, so I'm happy.
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Paul Thomas Anderson / Re: Phantom Thread - Critic's Reviews
« Last post by Drenk on December 07, 2017, 04:15:18 PM »
I've read tweets. And I do feel like it's too much. But I'm unable to do a full blackout. It's the first I haven't watched the trailer/am not reading reviews. That combo can spoil the first viewing: creating expectations. You're waiting for bits.
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Paul Thomas Anderson / Re: Phantom Thread - Critic's Reviews
« Last post by wilberfan on December 07, 2017, 04:11:21 PM »
I'm curious:  How many of you will avoid reading reviews before you have a chance to see the film yourself?   How many of you feel like you've already read too much about the film?

I've seen the film, and am starting to read the reviews...and feel like knowing the least about the film possible would make for a more satisfying experience.  YMMV.

[edit]  In fact, I've just decided I'm going to stop reading them until after I've seen the film a second time...
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