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Best Female Performance: Scarlett Johansson for LOST IN TRANSLATION
THE NOMINEES
Scarlett Johansson (LOST IN TRANSLATION)
Nicole Kidman (COLD MOUNTAIN)
Alison Lohman (MATCHSTICK MEN)
Uma Thurman (KILL BILL: Volume 1)
Naomi Watts (21 GRAMS)
no, this isnt happening.
exactly how many aliases did Chest use to vote?
She probably gives the most under-rated performance this year.
Quote from: Sloyjexactly how many aliases did Chest use to vote?
Let's see:
Rest Chockwell
Chest Wellrock
West Chellrock
Rockst Chewell
Rocky Chocky
I.P. Freely
Chesty Laroo
Chest in Translation
Rech Stockwell
Dean Stockwell
Dan Marino
i think she's actually the last person i would've voted for in this catagory.
Actually, I still haven't seen it, but...Naomi...
Quote from: QuoyleShe probably gives the most under-rated performance this year.
I think Zooey Deschanel (All the Real Girls) should have that dubious honor.
Quote from: SloyjActually, I still haven't seen it, but...Naomi...
I can't really complain, but it just seems that Naomi was the obvious choice.
I would have been happy with either Scarlett or Naomi, personally.
Naomi... NAOMI... Naomi... Watts...
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: SloyjActually, I still haven't seen it, but...Naomi...
I can't really complain, but it just seems that Naomi was the obvious choice.
This is the exact same way I feel... No Naomi for best female performance is sort of shocking and honestly makes me question what people's criteria were. Nothing wrong with Scarlett, but she was clearly not called upon to do nearly the things Watts did with such, again, intuition- she may be the most intuitive female actor currently playing leads in movies.
Quote from: godardianQuote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: SloyjActually, I still haven't seen it, but...Naomi...
I can't really complain, but it just seems that Naomi was the obvious choice.
This is the exact same way I feel... No Naomi for best female performance is sort of shocking and honestly makes me question what people's criteria were. Nothing wrong with Scarlett, but she was clearly not called upon to do nearly the things Watts did with such, again, intuition- she may be the most intuitive female actor currently playing leads in movies.
i agree. i thought she was a lock, although personally i voted for Uma because from what must've been on the page to how she went about actually executing (no pun intended) that character must've been some effort on her part. also, her range was greater in being able to deliver tongue in cheek lines one minute, making you believe she can kick your ass the next, and delivering all the devastatingness of naomi watts 21 grams performance in 1 scene when she wakes up in the hospital to find her baby is gone.
hmmm, we aren't much different than the Academy...shafting Naomi. I think Scarlett was good, but many actresses can pull off the 'alienated' feel. Watts showed incredible emotional range in 21 Grams.
naomi watts.
It actually is pretty surprising that Scarlett won. I thought I was voting for the underdog.
But I'll say it again. Crying and yelling does not make a performance any better than a well-executed subtle performance. What made Naomi's performance stupendous in Mulholland Dr. was how well she achieved the two different characters, using very slight techniques so that you barely notice the two characters are played by the same actress. Not because she was able to cry intensely while masturbating. That was the difference between hers and Scarlett's performances this year. I really liked both of them immensely, and were equal on how far they reached/affected me. But I just tend to vote for the one that's not necessarily emotional powerful.
It could have been Alison Lohman
Quote from: IP FreelyCrying and yelling does not make a performance any better than a well-executed subtle performance.
yes, but at the same time i cant think of one scene in the film that i would consider difficult to pull off for Scarlett. she seemed to coast through the whole thing on a variation of her Ghost World character.
My vote went to Naomi as well.
Quote from: themodernage02i voted for Uma because from what must've been on the page to how she went about actually executing (no pun intended) that character must've been some effort on her part. also, her range was greater in being able to deliver tongue in cheek lines one minute, making you believe she can kick your ass the next, and delivering all the devastatingness of naomi watts 21 grams performance in 1 scene when she wakes up in the hospital to find her baby is gone.
I agree. I voted Uma too. I was hit harder by her "where's my baby" scene than anything Naomi did in 21 Grams. And on top of that, she played a great "dumb-ass blonde" tourist, bad ass and that opening scene really blew me away as well. Naomi would be a definate second, however.
if naomi didnt win here, what more in the oscars?
Quote from: Sanjuroif naomi didnt win here, what more in the oscars?
Sadly Charlize Theron will win. Naomi was much more powerful.
Quote from: Chest RockwellQuote from: Sanjuroif naomi didnt win here, what more in the oscars?
Sadly Charlize Theron will win. Naomi was much more powerful.
Don't say "sadly", buddy. You don't know what you're talking about. Accept the fact that you don't know when somebody is overacting and when somebody isn't. It's okay. When you're a little older, you might know. Theron will win and it will be deserved.
And I assume I don't know what I'm talking about either? Doubt it. Monster was crap, and Theron's performance was nothing special. Watts' performance had power that reminded me of Brando, much like Ebert's Barry comparison in Monster's Ball (though I don't know if I agree with that one). As stated many times before, I want Castle-Hughes to pull off the upset, but Watts winning would be well-deserved. Anyone can uglify herself and play "the monster" as Theron did, but to channel real human heartbreak like Watts did takes real skill and talent. Also, as I said in the 21 Grams thread, the scene in the kitchen where she breaks down just floored me.
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaAnyone can uglify herself and play "the monster" as Theron did,
That's an ugly assumption and you know it. Furthermore, if you know anything about acting, you would know automatically that she's not overacting. That question is not even up for debate.
Quote from: CinephileQuote from: OnomatopoeiaAnyone can uglify herself and play "the monster" as Theron did,
That's an ugly assumption and you know it. Furthermore, if you know anything about acting, you would know automatically that she's not overacting. That question is not even up for debate.
Yes. And if you understood cinema you'd know that Kill Bill is the best film of the year. Anyone who disagrees doesn't know shit about making movies.
Quote from: Brock LandersAnd if you understood cinema you'd know that Kill Bill is the best film of the year. Anyone who disagrees doesn't know shit about making movies.
I know enough to have a better screenplay than the one Kill Bill had.
Quote from: Brock LandersYes. And if you understood cinema you'd know that Kill Bill is the best film of the year. Anyone who disagrees doesn't know shit about making movies.
That was a bad joke, right? Saying something is "the best film of the year" is strictly an opinion. Saying something is overacting is either fact or it's not. You can have an opinion about overacting, I believe, but when it all comes down to it, it's either overacting or it's not. And I guess one would have to know acting to understand it. And in this case, it's not overacting.
Quote from: CinephileQuote from: OnomatopoeiaAnyone can uglify herself and play "the monster" as Theron did,
That's an ugly assumption and you know it. Furthermore, if you know anything about acting, you would know automatically that she's not overacting. That question is not even up for debate.
I never said Theron was overacting. I just said her performance wasn't NEARLY as great as the buzz (including Ebert's creamed pants) would have you believe. And it's not an ugly assumption, assuming that pun was intended. Every question is up for debate, especially something as subjective as the merits of one performance versus another. That's what these silly (and I use that with my tongue partially in cheek) awards shows are about.
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaQuote from: CinephileQuote from: OnomatopoeiaAnyone can uglify herself and play "the monster" as Theron did,
That's an ugly assumption and you know it. Furthermore, if you know anything about acting, you would know automatically that she's not overacting. That question is not even up for debate.
I never said Theron was overacting. I just said her performance wasn't NEARLY as great as the buzz (including Ebert's creamed pants) would have you believe. And it's not an ugly assumption, assuming that pun was intended. Every question is up for debate, especially something as subjective as the merits of one performance versus another. That's what these silly (and I use that with my tongue partially in cheek) awards shows are about.
I was commenting on Chest Rockwell's overacting criticism. I was never saying that you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to Watts performance. I've only been talking about the question of Theron overacting or not. That's it. Things can be up for debate but when one is discussing the issue of overacting, you must admit that there's a right or wrong. You can say, "it felt to me like she was overacting" but that doesn't mean she was. You can say, "to me, it felt like it was too over-the-top." Doesn't mean it was. THAT is where debate may come into play. But -- once again -- she either was or wasn't and people who study acting and do acting just know right off the bat that Theron did NOT overact.
Ono gave an opinion and you told him he was wrong with the only reason being that you understand acting. i failed to see how you attempted to change his opinion. otherwise, why insult him? don't just tell someone they don't understand acting without backing it up cause it's just annoying. i haven't seen monster though, so im not taking sides here.
As I said, for the most part she was good, but there were parts when I thought she was trying a little too hard. That main scene that sticks out in my mind is the one in which Charlize and Christina's character are at some diner, and then Charlize blows up at the waiter for telling Christina to stop smoking. I felt that every line delivered in that scene was delivered incorrectly, especially "Bring it." It's mainly just that scene; I was perfectly fine and forgot it was even Charlize for most of the film. I felt Naomi did a better job, as her performance really gripped me, had me at a near emotional breakdown for a good part of the film.
And besides, me saying anyone overacts IS an opinion just as me saying Lost in Translation is the best picture of the year. It's all relative.
But again I say she overall performed very well, just not amazingly as most people hype her to be. I think all this hype she's been receiving is due mostly to her uglification, and I think that's a shitty thing. There were better performances this year--that's all I mean to say.
Quote from: Chest RockwellAnd besides, me saying anyone overacts IS an opinion just as me saying Lost in Translation is the best picture of the year. It's all relative.
And I think if you actually read my previous posts, I already established it can be an opinion. It all depends on how you write it. Initially, no, you made it come across as fact when it wasn't.
Quote from: Chest RockwellI think all this hype she's been receiving is due mostly to her uglification, and I think that's a shitty thing.
It's a shittier thing when moviegoers like you say something like that.
Quote from: CinephileBut -- once again -- she either was or wasn't and people who study acting and do acting just know right off the bat that Theron did NOT overact.
what do they know? most people who study acting overact a little themselves.
Quote from: peteQuote from: CinephileBut -- once again -- she either was or wasn't and people who study acting and do acting just know right off the bat that Theron did NOT overact.
what do they know? most people who study acting overact a little themselves.
:roll:
even your smiley overacts, marlon.