The Incredible Hulk

[©brad]

I think CGI is better than a live actor, especially since people expect it now. I just think that hulk is such a difficult character to make real and that they should have waited till CGI is more advanced. I saw previews for it today, and Im going to go see it, let loose and just say fuck it if it doesnt look real.

that'a boy!

[Gold Trumpet]

The problem isn't it not looking real but whether it can look believable and be effective in how it looks and acts. CGI has been creator to some very unbelievable and boring creatures lately. I'm not sure if it will pull it off, but I'm seeing it anyways.

~rougerum

[cowboykurtis]

i've said this before -- i think ang lee is a horrible choice for a comic book film -- i thik he's a great director, but just unqualitifed for this story -- i want to see a director that is a fan of the comic book -- judging by his other films i dont see how its possible that he will handle this film with the right tone(the trailer is proving this to be the case) -- but then again, films recently have been shamelessly raping the original source material -- they see it as a material that has already been part of pop culture for years now -- its almost like free marketing -- as long as they have  a big green giant bashing cars and yelling -- 13 yr olds kids will cheer and force thier parents to by them the action figures and take them to the film 5 times a week...

[Ghostboy]

judging by his other films i dont see how its possible that he will handle this film with the right tone(the trailer is proving this to be the case)

Again, I strongly believe, with reason, that the trailers are grossly misleading.

[cowboykurtis]

judging by his other films i dont see how its possible that he will handle this film with the right tone(the trailer is proving this to be the case)

Again, I strongly believe, with reason, that the trailers are grossly misleading.

how can it be misleading in the film's tone? -- you can see how it was shot -- the atmosphere and "world" of the film looks horrible. i think you can tell a lot by a trailer. i've rarely seen a film that had a shitty trailer and turned out to be an amazing film.

[Ghostboy]

The trailers showcase the movie's two big action scenes...the military pursuit through the desert and the rampage in San Francisco. The main story arc hasn't been hinted at one bit...well, if you know what to look for, you may see some of it in this most recent trailer.

And those brief shots of The Hulk in the woods are beautiful.

I mean, sure, it may just not work. But I think there's enough ground to keep hoping, until we actually see it.

[cowboykurtis]

I mean, sure, it may just not work. But I think there's enough ground to keep hoping

hope is an intersting phenomenon -- when "hoping" for something, one has to choose: do they continue to hope with the possiblilty of being disapointed or do they keep low expectations and never forms ideals as a way to make disapointment non-existent... i think it depends what you're investing your hope in... i'm not investing mine in the hulk.

[Pubrick]

i'm not investing mine in the hulk.

i am.

mang lee, eric banana, jennifer hotttt, nick :nutty: nolte.

i am.

[Banky]

Dont put to much negativity towards it yet but i agree it looks pretty empty

[MacGuffin]

New pictures:





Interview with Ang Lee from The San Francisco Gate:

Ang Lee's transformation
Director happily jumped into the foreign world of special effects for 'The Hulk'

Whether Ang Lee was directing adulterous suburbanites, Southern racists, crouching tigers or hidden dragons, his diverse characters all had something in common: They were living, breathing, multimillion-dollar-check- cashing actors.

But "The Hulk," opening June 20, is a different beast. The veteran filmmaker is making the leap from flesh-and-blood dramas to special-effects blockbuster -- without so much as a fake explosion for a transition.

Lee admits that, when it came to special effects, he had "no idea what I was talking about" as early as last year, when he started filming in the Bay Area.

"In some ways my innocence helped bring freshness (to the movie)," Lee said during an an interview earlier this month. "I think it's good I wasn't scared that the movie relied on (computer-generated) characters. I didn't know enough to be scared."

Lee's decision to direct "The Hulk" surprised fans of comic books -- along with fans of his movies.

His previous films include "Sense and Sensibility," "The Ice Storm" and "Eat Drink Man Woman," which were as far away from gamma rays and rampaging green behemoths as cinematically possible. "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" in 2000 proved that Lee could film action, but the movie's wire stunts and blue- screen backgrounds involved few modern special effects.

But Lee says his latest job made sense to him, with "Crouching Tiger" serving as a transition to "The Hulk." The filmmaker was drawn to the project at first by his comic-reading school-age sons, later realizing that there was a surprisingly complex character in the middle of the pulp action.

"That grabbed me right away," Lee said. "I was on the way to doing something like that in 'Crouching Tiger,' to mix serious drama with pop art. I got a taste of that and thought I could do that bigger."

Once the director was onboard, "The Hulk" needed a location. In the comics and TV show, the monster is born on a desert base in the Southwest, where Bruce Banner (Eric Bana in the movie) is exposed to gamma radiation.

New Mexico was changed to UC Berkeley to get Hulk near a big city, a move that Lee was happy about.

San Francisco "is one of my favorite cities in the world," Lee said. "I would probably rank it at the top or near the top. It's small but very photogenic and has layers. It's like New York. You never have problems finding great angles that people have never done."

Locations for "The Hulk" include Berkeley, Treasure Island and Telegraph Hill in San Francisco. Filming for the most part was kept secret, but an extended trailer displayed for some journalists and exhibitors shows that the Bay Area is used to the fullest.

Lee seems particularly fond of helicopter shots looking down on the city streets, where the Hulk wrecks at least one cable car.

Although Lee put his own mark on the film, most of the main plot points in "The Hulk" mirror the comic. Bana plays Banner, a student who gets a dose of gamma radiation while working on a secret military project. As a result, whenever he gets mad, he mutates into a huge green creature. ("You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.'')

Jennifer Connelly, Sam Elliott and Nick Nolte round out the cast, while television Hulk actor Lou Ferrigno has a cameo.

Unlike the comic and the TV show, the lead character in "The Hulk" is more than twice the height of a normal human. The computer-generated Hulk wasn't created until the filming sequences were over -- when Lee settled into an office across the street from Industrial Light & Magic in San Rafael.

Lee describes his education at ILM with wonder, like a parent who goes to a rock concert and discovers that his kid's favorite band actually has good musicians.

"This is the best part of making the movie, I think -- making the movie at ILM. It was pretty much a contrast to what I expected it to be," Lee said. "They call it Industrial Light & Magic, but there's no feeling of industry. It feels totally handcraft. Every individual artist who works on the shots -- it's very hands on."

Colin Brady, an animation director at ILM, said the animators who worked on "The Hulk" were thrilled with Lee's constant presence for the effects work.

"It's pretty much unheard of," Brady said. "(But) the Hulk has such a strong acting role in the movie that I think it did require that Ang was here."

Brady said much of the finished product for the character came from Lee's own movements.

"There's a lot of Ang in the Hulk," Brady said. "Ang would have no problem getting up and acting out exactly what he was looking for. It's a wonderful contrast to see this very soft-spoken guy launch into this very broad action. Next thing you know, he's biting my arm or getting me in a headlock or something."

Holing up with ILM made it easier for Lee to ignore outspoken fans of the comic book, who have criticized everything from the creature's look (they say he appears too much like the lead character in "Shrek") to the inclusion of mutated "Hulk dogs" in the movie.

Lee said he was influenced by the first "Frankenstein" movie more than any comic films such as "X-Men" or "Spider-Man."

"I would like to think that the fans, as loud and earnest as they can be, I hope they make up, like, 0.1 percent of the audience," Lee said. "I wanted to embrace (the comic), but I also wanted to feel free to create my episode of the Hulk. If I got opinions from other places, I would be very distracted."

Lee said Marvel gave him only two mandates -- telling him that the Hulk couldn't be too intelligent and that he had to save a child at the beginning of the movie.

Avi Arad, the Marvel Comics executive in charge of the films, said fans will appreciate Lee's work after they see the film.

"He understood the psychodrama and the deep study it takes to get the Hulk, " Arad said. "The thing he loves the most is the study of the soul. And he delivered that."

Lee joins Brian Singer and Sam Raimi as Oscar-nominated filmmakers who took on blockbuster comic-book films. Arad said the material needed a director who could concentrate on the performances, and Universal Pictures and Marvel were fortunate to get Lee.

"He could have done anything he wanted," Arad said. "And lucky us, he picked 'The Hulk.' "

Lee, who was finishing up special-effects shots and adding the music in early May, said he hasn't thought about his next move.

"Honestly, I really don't know what I'll do next," he said. "I'm having a blast here at ILM."

Lee said he may do a destruction-free drama first, but he hasn't ruled out another special-effects movie.

"The experience is definitely much better than I expected. It's artwork, not what I thought special effects are," Lee said. "I came from a dramatic background, and this is very good training for me. It really broadened my tools for making movies. I think it was a great experience for me as a filmmaker."

[nappyrat]

i never was a hulk fan, and never will be.
i dont hate this movie because i never liked it as a child, but just because it looks so fake!!

when the hulk was in the room yelling or whatever with water all around him....F-A-K-E

[nappyrat]

o yea, an doesnt his "green-ness" change a bit in every scene??
sometimes he looks dull green, then NEON GREEN???

[Jeremy Blackman]

o yea, an doesnt his "green-ness" change a bit in every scene??
sometimes he looks dull green, then NEON GREEN???

The DP had some lighting issues

[Duck Sauce]

Im going to see it, whos coming with?

[Sleuth]

Eh, I'm starting to want to see it now